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Damien 13-03-2018 15:24

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35940513)
The fallout of this and a subsequent response if Russian State is found to have used illegal lethal force, it could be that we could end up boycotting the World Cup later this year.

We might intentionally play badly and exit the competition early totally on purpose you mean?

Mick 13-03-2018 15:44

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
No, Theresa May, may recommend to the FA to pull England team out of the tournament, she may do it if other countries rally round her and also boycott the World Cup. UK doing it alone would not make much of an impact but other countries pulling out will send strong message to Putin.

TheDaddy 13-03-2018 16:11

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
I think Damien is right and that is what will happen...

Mick 13-03-2018 16:30

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
A Russian national was found dead in London last night, it is not yet, being linked to Salisbury incident but his ‘association’ with links to the Russian State and now subsequent death is being treated as unexplained and suspicious and is also being investigated by counterterrorism police.

https://news.sky.com/story/counter-t...ondon-11288431

heero_yuy 13-03-2018 17:35

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
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Quote from Damien:

We might intentionally play badly and exit the competition early totally on purpose you mean?

So, no change there then.:D

TheDaddy 13-03-2018 17:44

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35940522)
So, no change there then.:D

Big change, this time we have a reason

Mick 13-03-2018 18:35

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
Latest: Downing Street Spokesperson says President Trump has told Theresa May in a phone call the U.S was with the U.K. all the way and Russia must unambiguously explain how it’s nerve agent came to being used.

Also a line coming out from outgoing U.S Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has said if Russia continues to go down this path, it will become increasingly isolated.

1andrew1 13-03-2018 18:39

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35940514)
We might intentionally play badly and exit the competition early totally on purpose you mean?

I think someone must have sent that email to the England rugby team by mistake. :D

Mick 13-03-2018 18:44

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
FA have said England still intends to attend the World Cup in Russia unless it is told not to by the British Government.

Carth 13-03-2018 18:50

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
Gonna be some awfully red faces if it turns out Russia had nothing to do with it oops:

Mick 13-03-2018 18:54

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
The Nerve Agent has key signature ingredients, the creator who created it says it's like having a fingerprint, as per the governments stance yesterday, that fingerprint implicates Russia.

Carth 13-03-2018 19:01

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35940531)
. . . that fingerprint implicates Russia.

Nope, that fingerprint implicates a toxin developed by Russia. It goes nowhere near proof that Russia used it.

Still, media frenzy is media frenzy in any language :D

heero_yuy 13-03-2018 19:08

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
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Quote from Carth:


Nope, that fingerprint implicates a toxin developed by Russia. It goes nowhere near proof that Russia used it.

Still, media frenzy is media frenzy in any language :D
We could well be flying off at a tangent. :(

But who could obtain advantage by implicating Russia?

Mick 13-03-2018 19:13

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35940532)
Nope, that fingerprint implicates a toxin developed by Russia. It goes nowhere near proof that Russia used it.

Still, media frenzy is media frenzy in any language :D

The nerve agent isn't something found at the local store in Russia, so yes developed by Russia, it's then how that chemical weapon ended up in the hands of an assassin, if this is not Russia directly responsible, then Russia still need to explain how something so dangerous ended up in the hands of a potential rogue assassin, that's what our government has asked Russia to explain by Midnight tonight.

Carth 13-03-2018 19:21

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 
It would be nice if Russia could explain how the toxin did end up in the 'wrong' hands . . . much the same as weaponry and nuclear material probably goes missing may be a start :erm:


I've no idea who would gain an advantage, Governments and 'other' groups move in ways far too complicated for me to understand.

But if I wanted to stab someone to death I'd remove all my fingerprints from the weapon . . . or I wouldn't leave the knife there along with my Tesco loyalty card :)

Either the Russians are stupid (which I doubt), or they're playing a silly game of bluff bluff double bluff, or they have been stitched up.


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