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Mr Banana 18-01-2018 17:09

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35932994)
I am not interested, I don't care about the lies. Hillary lied, Bill Clinton lied, Obama lied, whether it's 10 lies or 100. They all do it as it has been said. Do we have any websites dedicated to other world leaders who have lied?

At the end of the day, it doesn't detract the fact that most news stories are full of negative hysteria nonsense as highlighted in the awards that Trump gave and they are well deserved.

Do any other world leaders have fake news awards or tweet fake news?

To me Trump and the media are as bad as each other, the papers print fake news, the media broadcast fake news and Trump tweets fake news.

1andrew1 18-01-2018 17:21

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by Mr Banana (Post 35933023)
Do any other world leaders have fake news awards or tweet fake news?

To me Trump and the media are as bad as each other, the papers print fake news, the media broadcast fake news and Trump tweets fake news.

To me, the fact that Trump doesn't acknowledge his fake news makes him worse than any news outlet that owns up to its errors. And that's before we 've looked at accuracy rates.

Mr K 18-01-2018 18:39

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
The guy is a narcissistic liar.

What I genuinely don't understand is his popularity with the religious right. He's got to be one of the biggest sinners on the planet, and has only declared an interest in God since running for president.

Hugh 18-01-2018 19:14

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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It’s reported Trump is 6’3".

Barack Obama is 6’1", Jeb Bush is 6’3", Alex Rodriguez (baseball player) is 6’3".

http://www.cableforum.uk/board/attac...1&d=1516302725

http://www.cableforum.uk/board/attac...2&d=1516302725

http://www.cableforum.uk/board/attac...3&d=1516302725

I would say he is 6’1" - your thoughts?

OLD BOY 18-01-2018 19:27

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35933030)
The guy is a narcissistic liar.

What I genuinely don't understand is his popularity with the religious right. He's got to be one of the biggest sinners on the planet, and has only declared an interest in God since running for president.

A lot of people on the religious right are indeed sinners. They are constantly asking for forgiveness in their private worlds, and no wonder when you observe their attitude towards others.

So I am not at all surprised that they adore the Donald.

GrimUpNorth 18-01-2018 19:28

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35933035)
It’s reported Trump is 6’3".

Barack Obama is 6’1", Jeb Bush is 6’3", Alex Rodriguez (baseball player) is 6’3".

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2018/01/9.jpg

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2018/01/9.jpg

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2018/01/9.jpg

I would say he is 6’1" - your thoughts?

Fake - he is way taller than everyone (in fact he's the tallest man who ever has lived), he just crouches in public because he doesn't need to use his height advantage to prove he's the alpha dog.

Cheers

Dave

OLD BOY 18-01-2018 19:28

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35933035)
It’s reported Trump is 6’3".

Barack Obama is 6’1", Jeb Bush is 6’3", Alex Rodriguez (baseball player) is 6’3".

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2018/01/9.jpg

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2018/01/9.jpg

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2018/01/9.jpg

I would say he is 6’1" - your thoughts?

I really couldn't care less, and I don't see what it has to do with his ability to carry out his Presidential duties.

Hugh 18-01-2018 19:36

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35933044)
I really couldn't care less, and I don't see what it has to do with his ability to carry out his Presidential duties.

Why would he lie about it? It’s something that can be easily proved/disproved by seeing him next to other people, so why?

Is it because if he was below 6’3", he would be clinically obese? Is it because he needs to be ‘bigger’ than others? Is he so insecure, he needs to ‘enhance’ his height?

It points to how he thinks - if he lies about something this obvious, how can we trust him?

I think I may join the "Girther" Movement - we need to see Trump’s Girth Certificate (the long form, not the short form). ;)

passingbat 18-01-2018 19:47

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35933030)
The guy is a narcissistic liar.

What I genuinely don't understand is his popularity with the religious right. He's got to be one of the biggest sinners on the planet, and has only declared an interest in God since running for president.

Do you realise that there is a Harlot in the bloodline of Jesus? She was saved by Faith.

The Jewish people were released from their 70 year captivity in Babylon by King Cyrus the great (not a nice guy!) when Cyrus conquered Babylon. The reason he did so was because he was shown a passage from Isaiah, written around 150 years before, that named Isaiah as an Instrument of God. Cyrus also gave them money to rebuild the Temple that the Babylonians had destroyed.

God can choose anyone he wants to achieve his purpose.

Trump has been talking with prominent Evangelical Christian and watching Christian TV for 10 years.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35933042)
A lot of people on the religious right are indeed sinners. They are constantly asking for forgiveness in their private worlds, and no wonder when you observe their attitude towards others.

So I am not at all surprised that they adore the Donald.

All Christians are sinners, saved by grace. If you find a Christian who says that he never messes up: Ignore him; he's not a Christian!

1andrew1 18-01-2018 21:15

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35933048)
If you find a Christian who says that he never messes up: Ignore him; he's not a Christian!

It's hard to ignore Trump though.

Mr K 18-01-2018 21:28

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35933048)
Trump has been talking with prominent Evangelical Christian and watching Christian TV for 10 years.

He's probably just lost his remote control ;)

Trump's only faith is in himself. If the gullible evangelcal masses think he's the Second Coming then more fool them. What's Christian about trying to deny the poor healthcare, or trying to deport immigrant children who are there through no fault of their own?

daveeb 18-01-2018 21:58

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35933070)
He's probably just lost his remote control ;)

Trump's only faith is in himself. If the gullible evangelcal masses think he's the Second Coming then more fool them. What's Christian about trying to deny the poor healthcare, or trying to deport immigrant children who are there through no fault of their own?

Or he's just marking time until he gets the Gorilla channel back. ;)

But don't forget MrK that god (and seemingly Trump) work in mysterious ways, so no point in calling them out for anything bad.

Mick 18-01-2018 22:00

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35933070)
He's probably just lost his remote control ;)

Trump's only faith is in himself. If the gullible evangelcal masses think he's the Second Coming then more fool them. What's Christian about trying to deny the poor healthcare, or trying to deport immigrant children who are there through no fault of their own?

No, more fool you because they seriously couldn't give a toss what you think and will vote for him again in 2020.

As for fault, it's the fault of their parents who entered the U.S illegally.

Again, because you have issues with democracy, Trump was elected on a mandate to put American citizens first, not illegals.

At the end of the day, President Obama lacked the Constitutional and legal Authority to implement DACA in the first place, which President Obama knew at the time but he implemented it anyway and then in 2014, he attempted to introduce DAPA which, like DACA, instead offered protections for the illegal parents but a Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a Nationwide Injunction against DAPA, which the Supreme Court allowed to stand.

The Executive Branch does not have the legislative power to change or amend laws and that is what Obama was trying to do, which sets a dangerous precedent as it weakens the constitutional balance of powers. This is why Trump, himself, cannot repeal and replace Obama care, that is a congressional responsibility, same with the tax cuts that have just passed.

1andrew1 18-01-2018 22:09

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35933072)
No, more fool you because they seriously couldn't give a toss what you think and will vote for him again in 2020.

His name may not be on the voting slips though due to impeachment or similar. The Russian investigation is ongoing whatever Trump may pretend.

Mr Banana 18-01-2018 22:24

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35933072)
No, more fool you because they seriously couldn't give a toss what you think and will vote for him again in 2020.

As for fault, it's the fault of their parents who entered the U.S illegally.

Again, because you have issues with democracy, Trump was elected on a mandate to put American citizens first, not illegals.

At the end of the day, President Obama lacked the Constitutional and legal Authority to implement DACA in the first place, which President Obama knew at the time but he implemented it anyway and then in 2014, he attempted to introduce DAPA which, like DACA, instead offered protections for the illegal parents but a Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a Nationwide Injunction against DAPA, which the Supreme Court allowed to stand.

The Executive Branch does not have the legislative power to change or amend laws and that is what Obama was trying to do, which sets a dangerous precedent as it weakens the constitutional balance of powers. This is why Trump, himself, cannot repeal and replace Obama care, that is a congressional responsibility, same with the tax cuts that have just passed.

By the letter of his new law yes but how can it be right that a 39 year old guy who was brought there illegally when he was 10, is married to a US citizen and has 2 US born kids gets deported. Morally that is wrong.


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