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Dash: CF noob 17-08-2012 01:21
Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35464020)
We're digging a hole for them because we are telling them we can go in despite this being a major headache. We are maneuvering ourselves in a position that we can't explain to either the Swedes, the Ecuadorians or the rest of the world. The smart thing to do would be to say: he's in Ecuadorian Territory now, so he's not our problem. If he sets foot on British territory we'll arrest him and extradite him.
My thoughts exactly u beat me to it..

Tezcatlipoca 17-08-2012 01:33
Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35463957)
I have asked this constantly and no one has come up with an answer. Why fabricate a charge to get him sent to Sweden so that you can start the extradition process all over again but this time to go to America? Why not just do it here where we have shown little fight in extradition requests? Makes no sense.
Logic rarely has a place in conspiracy theories...

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35464038)
The minute he steps off Ecuadorian soil he will be arrested,extradited to Sweden.be put on trial and hopefully justice will seen to have been done.

Or he can spend the next 10,20,30 years in the Ecuador embassy.

Either way it's a result.
Indeed.

I did find this amusing...

Julian Assange still locked in building to avoid being locked in building

Hugh 17-08-2012 10:56
Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Well, if Mr Assange gets to Ecuador, he better not criticise the President or any goverment official.....

Times (behind paywall)
Quote:
Human rights in Ecuador
  • Desacato — lack of respect towards the President — attracts a maximum sentence of two years. If a government official is offended, the sentence is three months
  • Five journalists have been sentenced to jail for desacato since 2008. A further 18 faced similar charges.
  • Violence and obstructing roads during protests against mining and oil projects are normally ordinary criminal offences, but Ecuador classifies them as sabotage and terrorism, carrying a much longer prison sentence
  • The police enjoy impunity for abuses — there were 68 extrajudicial killings involving alleged police perpetrators between 1984 and 2008; few have been prosecuted
Source: Human Rights Watch and Times research

Damien 17-08-2012 11:04
Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35464107)
Well, if Mr Assange gets to Ecuador, he better not criticise the President or any goverment official.....

Times (behind paywall)
Yup. He also worked for the Kremlin funded Russia TV whilst decrying America's lack of the freedom of speech. :dozey:

Damien 17-08-2012 13:16
Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion...s-8053869.html

Great article.

Tezcatlipoca 17-08-2012 23:25
Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
It disgusts me that some Assange supporters continue to make incorrect claims that what he is alleged to have done would not constitute rape under English law... or even *any* kind of crime under English law. The stuff I have seen on Twitter baffles and sickens me, as does a lot of stuff I've seen in the equivalent thread to this over on DigitalSpy.

Damien 17-08-2012 23:30
Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
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Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35464401)
It disgusts me that some Assange supporters continue to make incorrect claims that what he is alleged to have done would not constitute rape under English law... or even *any* kind of crime under English law. The stuff I have seen on Twitter baffles and sickens me, as does a lot of stuff I've seen in the equivalent thread to this over on DigitalSpy.
These morons are the ilk that have hijacked the left and turned it into something crazy. Some of them are morons, some of them are really nasty, horrible, people.

martyh 18-08-2012 02:56
Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
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Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35464401)
It disgusts me that some Assange supporters continue to make incorrect claims that what he is alleged to have done would not constitute rape under English law... or even *any* kind of crime under English law. The stuff I have seen on Twitter baffles and sickens me, as does a lot of stuff I've seen in the equivalent thread to this over on DigitalSpy.
There was a case not so long ago where a footballer was sent to jail because the woman was drunk and deemed "not capable of giving consent " and isn't that the case in one of the charges against Assange ?

Tezcatlipoca 18-08-2012 14:33
Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Alleged Offence Number 4, from the High Court judgement:

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/...2011/2849.html

Quote:
4. Rape
On 17 August 2010, in the home of the injured party [SW] in Enkoping, Assange deliberately consummated sexual intercourse with her by improperly exploiting that she, due to sleep. was in a helpless state.
It is an aggravating circumstance that Assange. who was aware that it was the expressed wish of the injured party and a prerequisite of sexual intercourse that a condom be used. still consummated unprotected sexual intercourse with her. The sexual act was designed to violate the injured party's sexual integrity."
This is an allegation of rape under English law, as it is impossible to obtain consent from someone who is asleep.

martyh 18-08-2012 20:56
Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Check out the pirate bay site i think there has been a bit of skulduggery going on :D

Sirius 18-08-2012 21:07
Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35464692)
Check out the pirate bay site i think there has been a bit of skulduggery going on :D
:LOL:

Derek 19-08-2012 09:16
Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19310335

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Julian Assange is expected to make a public statement later on the diplomatic row that has engulfed him since being granted asylum by Ecuador
How's he going to do that then? Big TV outside? Hundreds of people in V masks trying to outmanoeuvre the cops? Hoping shouting "I'm from Ecuador! Look I've got a llama!" will avoid him being huckled?

Maggy 19-08-2012 09:54
Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35464773)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19310335



How's he going to do that then? Big TV outside? Hundreds of people in V masks trying to outmanoeuvre the cops? Hoping shouting "I'm from Ecuador! Look I've got a llama!" will avoid him being huckled?
Snigger! I was wondering that.Perhaps he's going to declaim from a balcony or try leaning out of a window.:)

Damien 19-08-2012 10:43
Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Those people in V masks are morons of the highest order. "Look at me, I'm just like the people in the movie!"

Mick 19-08-2012 11:19
Re: Wiki Leaks Founder Julian Assange granted 'Asylum' in Ecuador
 
Why are they Morons? The Movie makes a good point, that no nation should accept any kind of corrupt government that can bend the rules whenever it sees fit and use mass propaganda to back up it's actions. I am in favour of anyone standing up to a corrupt government, these masks kind of portray a standing up to the government.

These people in the mask believe the storming (Oh look, I've used this term again, get over it) of another Embassy is illegal under International Law and Treaties and strongly object to it, but at least we have established, they are not going to do this any time soon, to do so would be diplomatic suicide. So don't think there is any need for the displaying of such masks just yet.

So far. I am led to believe going off the news, that 1 Million pound has been spent on Police presence outside the embassy already. It's a bloody farce. It's one man, in a foreign nations Embassy, being accused of a sexual assault and as I have said previously, he is only at the accused stage.

The amount of resources being applied to get this one man is pathetic. Any one would think he was guilty of being a Terrorist the amount attention he is getting from Authority figures.


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