Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
 

there is a useful funtion to the left called "BS detector/ignore button" very handy for weeding out numpties;)

Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
 

The advanced driving course teaches defensive driving, and awareness. This should make you a safer and more curtious driver, not a more skilled driver, but in theory still better than those who haven't had the training.

The course we were talking about wasn't anything to do with the advanced driving test, it is way above that level. It was aimed at Pierre who thinks he has superhuman driving skills. So I asked if he was trained to drive safely at high speeds, as emergency service drivers are (although they still wouldn't be able to do this safely without means to warn other road users).

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Fog is an excellent example. If we all drove at a speed suitable for the road conditions, then we should all be doing the same speed, and a safe stopping distance apart.

Accidents usually happen in fog when one person is driving at a safe speed for the conditions, and another is driving far too fast, and therefore drives into the back of the car in front.

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It's obvious that you didn't understand their post. And that because you think you are invincible, and a far better driver than anyone else on the road, then you didn't even think the post applied to you.


You don't drive a BMW or an Audi by any chance?

Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
 

Please quote anywhere in this thread where I have stated this?

Please?

on the contrary it is you that seems to be changing their mind which ever way the wind blows

Again please direct me to the post where I stated this.

Again please direct me to the post where I stated this

No, do you?


I'm my own worst enemy, I shouldn't have come back to this thread, but when people name you directly, I have no choice.

Tim, if your discussion technique involves making up comments other users are supposed to have said, Inventing fictional scenarios that don't apply, introducing straw man points and just being a plane imbecile.

Then congratulations, you're very good at it.

goodnight.

Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
 

I had noticed.

Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
 

Just stop trolling, both of you. It's getting boring now.

Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
 

No trolling here sir,

I refer you back to my previous post.

Feel free to report any of my posts to a moderator

Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
 

I don't troll.
I think you're just getting confused with your conflicting opinions :)

Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
 

I should point out there are quite a few reasons when the Police and other agencies can, and do, drive at well in excess of the speed limits without warning equipment in activation.

Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
 

The only thing getting boring around here is you stamping all over the place with your fingers in your ears and refusing to listen to any voice bar your own.

Anyone who has been around here any length of time and has bothered to actually read what other posters have to say can see that Pierre and Gary are simply posting their views. What they are saying, and the way they are saying it, is entirely consistent with their usual forum behaviour.

If you really can't tolerate that, may I suggest you make use of the forum ignore feature.

Either way, please stop accusing people of trolling. It's really very unhelpful.

Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
 

Yes I know that, but it isn't as safe to do so, and they have to risk assess it first. Also if they are involved in an accident, they will have to be able to give a very convincing reason, as to why they weren't using them.

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Yes I know.

However I would also appreciate it isf you didn't start being insulting, by saying that I don't listen to other views. I do listen, but there are some people in these forums who will say "black is white" just to argue.

Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
 

Don't you see the irony in stating someone is insulting you if they say you don't listen to other views.....;)

Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
 

It's nothing to do with going against my views. I'm quite happy to debate. However there are people in many forums who will just argue in order to wind people up. So they will come out with extremely contoversial views. Then there are the people (like yourself), who like to twist peoples words around to try and make them mean something completely different. These methods aren't friendly debating, they are deliberately designed to wind people up.

Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
 

And there is being dogmatic and obstreperous, and not recognising it....

One of the point of forums is for people of differing views to discuss things, hopefully being informed by the different views - none of us have all the answers, and whilst I agree with you on a number of occasions, I have to admit your tone of posting can be somewhat aggressive (you may regard this as being passionate, but perception is all).

For instance, you constantly state that I twist your words - I prefer to think I am pointing out your inconsistencies (but, as I said above, perception is all).

Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
 

I am passionate about people not being ignorant enough to put other peoples lives at risk. After all I have to deal with the results. And that was what the discussion is about....end of story!!!!

Re: 80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%'
 

Yeah fools..

Tim said end of, so that's it, no more to see here, move along.. :rolleyes: