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Maggy 28-08-2009 15:39

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 34862859)
The peoples interests weren't taken into account.

The government for their own reasons wanted to ban fox hunting, I don't think the vast majority of people in the country cared.

Precisely! I and my friends certainly didn't.The only people who were worried were those who indulge in the most widely practised sport of Angling because they were wondering if they would be targeted next.It is very noticeable that the fishing community have been left alone for all this time so I still maintain it was a vote against 'Toffs' much more than it was about protecting the foxes.:erm:

When a government starts out by banning something we should all worry because once they get a taste for it,it's not long before they are looking for the next issue to ban.

LondonRoad 28-08-2009 15:52

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34862911)
Precisely! I and my friends certainly didn't.The only people who were worried were those who indulge in the most widely practised sport of Angling because they were wondering if they would be targeted next.It is very noticeable that the fishing community have been left alone for all this time so I still maintain it was a vote against 'Toffs' much more than it was about protecting the foxes.:erm:

When a government starts out by banning something we should all worry because once they get a taste for it,it's not long before they are looking for the next issue to ban.

You're right although I think they've always got one eye on the electorate. I doubt if labour would lose votes by banning fox hunting but the poplularity of angling has a far less distinctive social divide.

Arthurgray50@blu 28-08-2009 17:00

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It always make me laugh, when people mention, by killing animals it ' murder ' Foxes are vermin they spread desease, they kill other animals, l suppose when l worked for a deep cleaning company and was killing vermin l am a murder, have some sense and come into the real world, fox hunts gets rid of foxes, it is as simple as that, this has been going on for donkeys years, so why get aggreaved at it now.

Hugh 28-08-2009 17:18

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They've been killing donkeys!

Barstewards

Arthurgray50@blu 28-08-2009 17:39

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You have never heard the expression 'donkeys years'

Hugh 28-08-2009 17:53

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34862963)
You have never heard the expression 'donkeys years'

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Arthurgray50@blu 28-08-2009 18:55

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Hi foreverwar, For the first time ever, you have me stuck for words, what were those piictures for

martyh 28-08-2009 20:07

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don't worry Arthur it's just Forever's sense of humor getting the better of him again

still quite funny Forever ;)

Angua 28-08-2009 21:02

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 34862859)
Very blinkered, sad and embittered view,

Firstly Fox Hunting does improve peoples lives as it gives them enjoyment, whioch is one of the most important commodities in living.

A life without enjoyment is a sad and empty life.

Now doubt you feel the same way about:

Dance instructors
Actors
Comedians
Artists
Atheletes
Footballers (all sportsmen in general)
etc,etc,etc

Let alone all the people that workm in the countrys various service industries.

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True, but I interpreted that you stood on that side of the argument.



This is the issue though.

The peoples interests weren't taken into account.

The government for their own reasons wanted to ban fox hunting, I don't think the vast majority of people in the country cared.

I deliberately used the term improve someone's life when referring to the service industry. Even staff in a supermarket make life easier for people by providing the things we need.
Dance instructors - keep us fit (life improving).
Actors - Provide escapism keeping us sane (life improving)
Comedians - Make us laugh (life improving)
Artists - Add richness to the mundane (life improving)

General sports people (not overpaid footballers) - give us something to aspire to (life improving).

frogstamper 29-08-2009 04:01

Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting
 
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34862949)
It always make me laugh, when people mention, by killing animals it ' murder ' Foxes are vermin they spread desease, they kill other animals, l suppose when l worked for a deep cleaning company and was killing vermin l am a murder, have some sense and come into the real world, fox hunts gets rid of foxes, it is as simple as that, this has been going on for donkeys years, so why get aggreaved at it now.

With an opinion like the above Arthur all I can say is thank god your not on my side of the arguement.

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this has been going on for donkeys years, so why get aggreaved at it now.
I take it you disagree with the banning of bear-baiting Arthur? I mean that too had been going on for donkeys years until it was banned, so therefore by your logic there was nothing wrong with it.
If you were to read the vast majority of the anti's posts you'd have realized that people don't have a problem with humanely dispatching "problem" foxes, what tends to irk is the fact that morons want to take pleasure in the terrorizing and killing of an animal.
How on earth can any compassionate person argue for such a barbaric practise? especially in the name of "sport".

TheDaddy 29-08-2009 07:01

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34862911)
Precisely! I and my friends certainly didn't.The only people who were worried were those who indulge in the most widely practised sport of Angling because they were wondering if they would be targeted next.It is very noticeable that the fishing community have been left alone for all this time so I still maintain it was a vote against 'Toffs' much more than it was about protecting the foxes.:erm:

When a government starts out by banning something we should all worry because once they get a taste for it,it's not long before they are looking for the next issue to ban.

Yes I have always maintained it was a vote against the toffs, if they were generally concerned with animal welfare they'd have done some thing about battery chickens.

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Originally Posted by frogstamper (Post 34863309)
With an opinion like the above Arthur all I can say is thank god your not on my side of the arguement.



I take it you disagree with the banning of bear-baiting Arthur? I mean that too had been going on for donkeys years until it was banned, so therefore by your logic there was nothing wrong with it.
If you were to read the vast majority of the anti's posts you'd have realized that people don't have a problem with humanely dispatching "problem" foxes, what tends to irk is the fact that morons want to take pleasure in the terrorizing and killing of an animal.
How on earth can any compassionate person argue for such a barbaric practise? especially in the name of "sport".

Is bear baiting banned, bit pointless if it is, we killed of all our bears centuries ago, Arthur baiting on the other hand seems to be thriving :)

A statistic which caught my eye years back was on the first day of hunting after the ban was brought in more foxes we killed than in the entire years previous hunts.

Angua 29-08-2009 08:53

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Dog fighting and Male Chicken fighting were banned ages ago and these were predominantly working class activities.

Wonder how many rabbits there would be without the foxes?

Kymmy 29-08-2009 09:19

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34863020)
Hi foreverwar, For the first time ever, you have me stuck for words, what were those piictures for

Shooting, fish, barrel... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

rogerdraig 29-08-2009 10:43

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 34860414)
The idea of Fox Hunting is not to eradicate them, but provide a limiting factor on their numbers.

ROFL

NO it was to kill things

hunts were breeding foxes to chase because nature was all ready limiting their numbers

TheDaddy 29-08-2009 14:20

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Originally Posted by Angua (Post 34863337)
Dog fighting and Male Chicken fighting were banned ages ago and these were predominantly working class activities.

and another predominantly working class activitiy, hare coarsing was banned recently

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Wonder how many rabbits there would be without the foxes?
Wonder how many more cats there would be also.

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Originally Posted by rogermevans (Post 34863392)
hunts were breeding foxes to chase because nature was all ready limiting their numbers

Not sure it was due to nature, more a historic practice I believe, either way it doesn't really help their cause though.


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