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It's a brave move for Apple. I fully expect there to be an online marketplace for widgets to download to your iPhone, not unlike the way you download tracks for your iPod. I don't know whether they plan it to be fully web-based, or client based (maybe they'll extend iTunes, and maybe they'll finally have to re-name it), but I'm sure it'll happen, and I'm sure that until recently they hoped to have a tight stranglehold on what you could buy through it (more profits for Apple).

Fair dos to them for listening to the concerns of their potential customers, although I still doubt very much that adding widgets to your iPhone will be as free an experience as, say, syncing new apps to a Palm device. We may now get third-party add-ons, but they are unlikely to be avaiable for free and they will almost certainly be delivered by an online service controlled by Apple.

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Lord Jobs giveth, Lord Jobs taketh away.

So stock quotes and weather reports it is then.

I guess there will be some effort to flash Linux on there, but I don't know how successful it will be.

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I personally think that IF the iPhone succeeds, it will be purely because of hype.

As I said earlier, the features are OK (although I don't like virtual keyboards - they suck no matter how pretty you make them), but apart from the multi touch screen, I don't think the iPhone has good hardware.

It certainly lacks 3G or Wifi support, which may limit it's appeal outside America.

As for Web 2.0 being available. Well, I am yet to be convinced that Web 2.0 has an actual use on any platform. Yes, it has a lot of nice features, and the interactivity of things like MySpace is good, but I haven't seen much use that has any real point.

OK, Google are porting their apps to it. Google maps on a mobile is good, and actually does have a point, but it requires a fast data connection and really needs a tarrif such as Web'n'walk to keep the cost down. AFAIK, you can only get these tarrifs on 3g networks in this country (iPhone has no 3g support).

Google are also porting their word processor and spreadsheet apps to the iPhone. Whoopee! I've had various phones/PDAs with Office style apps on for nearly ten years now. I can count the number of times I've used the apps on my fingers. Phones (whatever their hard/software) are not practical for this kind of use. They are to small, and the lack of an actual keyboard is a MASSIVE handicap for this kind of use.

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It works fine on my Samsung D600 on 2.5G* and T-mobiles capped £1 a day data tarriff.

I used it the other day to get somewhere, it was great!:tu:

A little slow but I was walking so not so much a problem :monkey:

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It has wifi support....

Also the UK version will have 3g built in.. (or so they say)

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Well, they kind of do. Steve Jobs has hinted that Apple are aware of the 3G problem. Also the iPhone will be missing a lot of features if they cannot use 3G, i think the only network to support EDGE access is Orange in the UK so they may get the iPhone.

As for features I think the iPhone has some excellent features but it is missing the basics. There is a lot of cool technology in there and it will be good when they get some of the old technology in there as well. Apple can make multiple revisions of the iPhone like the iPod so hopefully these issues will be addressed. Then I might buy one.

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More problems with the iPhone..

Wi-fi will be tied into phone plan

iPhone unavailable for business users.

iPhone might have Flash, but won't support Java

And still no word on how much the monthly plans will cost, just two weeks from release.

Apple isn't covering itself with glory at the moment.

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The Wi-Fi feature isnt too bad since a lot of the features require it. Why buy a iPhone without a data plan/EDGE

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First we had Ramrod, destroyer of servers... Now we have iPhone, destroyer of wireless LANs

That's some DOS capability. Buy a couple of iPhones and take down people's WLANs with it.

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Rather ironically, considering what Steve said in Chris's quote, security researches have discovered MAJOR flaws in the security on the Iphone..

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07...vulnerability/

It seems that ALL the apps run as admin, and it's entirely possible for a malicious website to access your contacts, SMS messages and most other areas of the phone.

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Further to the above, it seems that the problem here is that the Iphone, given an SSID for a wireless network, will happily try and attach to ALL the access points with that SSID.

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Will the iPhone be released in the UK, and if so when? Also will it be on Pay as you go? I'm with Orange btw.

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It will be at some point. No one has said when. It's also unlikely to be available on Pay as you go (and, TBH, I dread to think how much it would cost: It's $600 on contract in the USA), and the last rumour I heard suggested that O2 were the front runners to get exclusive rights.

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Contract in the US gives very little handset subsidy. You might get $50-100, but nothing like the phones you get for free in the UK. I would expect it to be in the 150-200GBP range in the UK.

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True, but in my experience, Apple tend to use an exchange rate of 1$=1£

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