Re: ***Caution***: Paypal Users
 

That's what I was wondering too. I gather that the second newsletter was emailed in batches to members. With members reporting different email IDs at the bottom of the PayPal email could it be that the email IDs related to the batches of newsletters sent out?

From what has been posted in this thread it would appear that the spammers have either got a list of email addys from the site server or from a source after newsletter emails have left the site server. Could another system that handled the newsletter emails be compromised and logging email addys going through it?

Re: ***Caution***: Paypal Users
 

No - vBulletin sends the e-mail seperately to each user, i.e. each one has only one addressee - that's why it's done in batches - because it floods the smtp process with 100's of e-mails.

That's an interesting thought - not likely once they have left the server as they are transferred direct to the receiving mail systems - but the servers mail system logs them - it's another thing to check.

It's unlikely we will ever know how - but a number of possibilities have been investigated and some changes made as a result.

Re: ***Caution***: Paypal Users
 

I still can't see [mind you I'm pretty suspicious anyway] how people fall for scam mails in massive quantities. It doesn't make sense to me.

Surely the common sense approach would be to load your own window and log in directly.

Re: ***Caution***: Paypal Users
 

i can see how people would click a link instead of opening a new window, and that's one reason why phishing pays off and these people make so much money from the few hits they get.

Re: ***Caution***: Paypal Users
 

Yes, I understand that. But surely if the bank rang you and asked for your credit card details you wouldn't give them?

It's exactly the same concept, the common sense approach is to close the email, load up FF / IE etc- and log in manually.

Same as ringing the bank back or going in in person. Common sense to me.

Re: ***Caution***: Paypal Users
 

Hello all

Right I got one of those mails and what seems strange to me is this

I use e-bay, I do not and have never had anything to do with paypal.
The mail account that is used for e-bay is not my primary one (main account)

I do not use the primary ntl e-mail account for anything HAS IN ANYTHING and my ebay mail account has no tyings with my ntl primary mail account.

So how the hell did this spam mail regarding pay pal come through my ntl primary mail box????????????????????????????

Re: ***Caution***: Paypal Users
 

Just FYI, we are making some real progress on our own internal investigation.
As soon as we know the facts, we'll let you guys know asap.
Thanks for being so supportive. :tu:

Re: ***Caution***: Paypal Users
 

yep, you & I would do that, bit I fear some users wouldn't be as naturally aware of the dangers (can't think of the right word to use.... beer is making my brain go all wobbly).

Similarly, Social Engineering shouldn't happen, but it does all too frequently.

Re: ***Caution***: Paypal Users
 

:LOL: don't worry, I feel hung over except two things:
- I've not touched alcohol for 1-2 weeks
- it's 1 am
:o

Re: ***Caution***: Paypal Users
 

Just to add my name to the list of recipients, got it on a non paypal address thats only been used here. :(

Re: ***Caution***: Paypal Users
 

I nearly fell for it, though if the pages had loaded I would probably have been suspicious of the address bar. Why? It went to my work email address, and that is changing soon, so in a carpe diem moment I was going to change my paypal email address and agree to the new terms. Clicking the link reminded me that this was something else that goes to this address.

Re: ***Caution***: Paypal Users
 

I just got an email offering a paypal atm/debit card paying 1.5% cashback - could be genuine but it has a link on it where you go to apply.

Re: ***Caution***: Paypal Users
 

Probably not genuine then.

Re: ***Caution***: Paypal Users
 

I received this e-mail and clicked on the link, I'm glad it did not work, so thank you for the info about this being a hoax, strange thing is I do not have a paypal account so where did they get my address from ?

Re: ***Caution***: Paypal Users
 

I have received one ...sent to the email addy i use for registering on here and other forums.

Andy E
ntl pirate