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sherer 26-10-2006 09:52

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very poor performance and can't see any of them kids making the grade at the moment.. considering they are playing for their future none of them performed at all

we have 75% of our back four and were very very poor Crewe were the better side

Bula Bula 27-10-2006 10:17

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Have you seen the Stefan Postma video? Hmmmm.:Yikes:

yesman 27-10-2006 16:07

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Quote:

Two Sheffield United players have been involved in an extraordinary training ground incident which, it is claimed, led to defender Claude Davis threatening team-mate Ade Akinbiyi while holding a cut-throat razor.
I don't care what you say, you can't beat a bit of camaraderie within the squad, especially just before one of your most important matches of the season :)

Daily Mail

gazzae 27-10-2006 16:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bula Bula (Post 34145548)
Have you seen the Stefan Postma video? Hmmmm.:Yikes:

Makes for interesting viewing, so I've heard!

Russ 27-10-2006 16:19

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Not seen it myself but apparently it's so bad he'll have no choice but to leave Villa via the back door...

gazzae 27-10-2006 16:23

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He is probably hoping he can just Strap On his boots and forget about it.

sherer 27-10-2006 16:27

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sorry not heard about this story.. what's meant to have happenned ?

gazzae 27-10-2006 16:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34145730)
sorry not heard about this story.. what's meant to have happenned ?

His girlfriend got back at him for dumping her by releasing a video of them having sex. Lets just say the roles were reversed.

Bula Bula 27-10-2006 16:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34145721)
Makes for interesting viewing, so I've heard!

I found it shocking and disturbing. The lady involved is not holding back.

His mother and father watched it on Dutch TV :Yikes:

The movie in DVD (!) will be distributed by a Sunday paper (Sunday Sport, but I am not 100% sure) but clips are available on the web...

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34145729)
He is probably hoping he can just Strap On his boots and forget about it.

:D

Russ 27-10-2006 16:52

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Let's not analise this too much.

TheBlueRaja 27-10-2006 17:04

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Looks like that one slipped out the back door, i bet he got a right shock.

Russ 27-10-2006 17:33

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Oi - find your own material, baldy :D

TheBlueRaja 27-10-2006 17:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D (Post 34145775)
Oi - find your own material, baldy :D

Doh! :D

Derek 27-10-2006 20:44

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Anyway back onto some semblance of topic.

Other teams might be able to pick up a bargain if Hearts lose tomorrow.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...an/6091336.stm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBC News
Hearts majority shareholder Vladimir Romanov has warned his players they are all for sale if they do not win this weekend

Gotta love Romanov, mad as a bag of ferrets.

yesman 27-10-2006 23:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dezzo (Post 34145911)
Other teams might be able to pick up a bargain if Hearts lose tomorrow.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...an/6091336.stm
Gotta love Romanov, mad as a bag of ferrets.

Hopefully or more likely it is a blank threat, he probably received his bank statement this morning and was a bit annoyed. :)

TheBlueRaja 28-10-2006 10:09

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I really, really, hope Hearts loose....

Off to the Falkirk v Dundee Utd match today to support my beloved Falkirk, im crapping myself, this ones going to be tighter than a nuns, eh, napsack....

TheDaddy 28-10-2006 15:43

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Looks like they have bought their way out of trouble yet again, when will some one say enough is enough and hit them where it will really hurt, in the points department :mad: :td:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ed/6094394.stm

yesman 28-10-2006 16:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34146306)
Looks like they have bought their way out of trouble yet again, when will some one say enough is enough and hit them where it will really hurt, in the points department :mad: :td:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ed/6094394.stm

Agreed !!!!!!!
Quote:

Chelsea will examine their procedure for recruiting youth players but are not thought to have admitted liability.
Then why make a settlement?

TheDaddy 28-10-2006 16:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yesman (Post 34146336)
Agreed !!!!!!!

Then why make a settlement?

They are jokers, didn't they get membership to the G14 or what ever they are called on the proviso that they obeyed they rules?

TheBlueRaja 28-10-2006 18:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34146159)
I really, really, hope Hearts loose....

Off to the Falkirk v Dundee Utd match today to support my beloved Falkirk, im crapping myself, this ones going to be tighter than a nuns, eh, napsack....

Whoohoo! Stuffed them 5-1, cracking game - Tata Brewster... Tata Diddy Utd

yesman 28-10-2006 18:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34146341)
They are jokers, didn't they get membership to the G14 or what ever they are called on the proviso that they obeyed they rules?

I have just looked at the G14 site and Chelsea are not amongst them.

Maybe they have applied?

---------- Post added at 18:26 ---------- Previous post was at 18:24 ----------

Rooooooooooonnnneeeeyyyyy :)

TheDaddy 28-10-2006 18:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yesman (Post 34146387)
I have just looked at the G14 site and Chelsea are not amongst them.

Maybe they have applied?

---------- Post added at 18:26 ---------- Previous post was at 18:24 ----------

Rooooooooooonnnneeeeyyyyy :)

Maybe or maybe they didn't bother as they just knew they couldn't be trusted ;)

skyblueheroes 28-10-2006 18:31

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What did he do ?

Anyway, good win for Coventry today away at Barnsley. Well done boys.

TheDaddy 29-10-2006 11:43

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Grrrr the Sven link just keeps getting stronger :td:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/6086972.stm

yesman 29-10-2006 13:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34146664)
Grrrr the Sven link just keeps getting stronger :td:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/6086972.stm

It will happen ;)

gazzae 30-10-2006 14:07

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:p: :p: :p:


http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/973...y4hkfr2qd0.jpg

kronas 01-11-2006 20:44

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who the hell is that gringo! :D

come on man utd! you can overcome the danes :D :D :D

yesman 01-11-2006 21:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kronas (Post 34149053)
who the hell is that gringo! :D

come on man utd! you can overcome the danes :D :D :D

Fergie has once again paid the price for changing a winning side :mad:

Copenhagen 1 Utd 0

gazzae 01-11-2006 22:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yesman (Post 34149086)
Fergie has once again paid the price for changing a winning side :mad:

Copenhagen 1 Utd 0

The weekend is more important that tonight

yesman 01-11-2006 22:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34149103)
The weekend is more important that tonight

Gaz, there is a chance that we will lose our next two Champions League games, if tonight is anything to go by, which means we do not qualify, a point tonight may have done.

Fixtures

gazzae 01-11-2006 23:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yesman (Post 34149130)
Gaz, there is a chance that we will lose our next two Champions League games, if tonight is anything to go by, which means we do not qualify, a point tonight may have done.

Fixtures

We can still qualify even if we lose both games.

yesman 01-11-2006 23:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34149139)
We can still qualify even if we lose both games.

Yes, but it is a very slim one, in fact anorexic..........

I would rather be in the comfort zone

gazzae 01-11-2006 23:19

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Not that slim, just needs Benfica V Copenhagen to be a draw or Copenhagen to win and Celtic to draw or win against Copenhagen.

I'd rather have lost tonight that at the weekend.

sherer 02-11-2006 09:54

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we had the worng tactics TBH.. we played for a draw and when the goal went in we had too little time to react

our best play of the night was when we crossed the ball from the wing which only happened twice as we still don't have any proper wingers

Ronaldo is still too greedy too if he had passed a few more times or fed people in the result could have been different

still need to bring in some more people.. i love Ole but after so long out he isn't the player he was.. he's only got a few tap ins and can't really perform at the level we need. O'Shea and Fletcher still aren't really good enough either and won't really win you a game

woodywood 02-11-2006 15:01

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come on lads lets not panick it was a great performance from copenhagen and bar an unfortunate sloppy goal conceded we would have come home with a competant result!

TheBlueRaja 02-11-2006 17:14

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Hilarious result from Man Who last night, they might win the Chumpions league but they are certainly not winning the Champions League..

Mon the Pool!

yesman 02-11-2006 19:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34149231)
i love Ole but after so long out he isn't the player he was.. he's only got a few tap ins and can't really perform at the level we need.

Solskjaer faces several weeks out
Quote:

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer will be out for several weeks after hurting a hamstring
I think his time is up also.
BBC Sport

gazzae 02-11-2006 20:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34149454)
Mon the Pool!


2 - 0

yesman 02-11-2006 21:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34149591)
2 - 0

:rofl:

TheBlueRaja 03-11-2006 09:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34149591)
2 - 0

1-0 :rofl:

woodywood 03-11-2006 10:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34149858)
1-0 :rofl:


:sleeping:

TheBlueRaja 03-11-2006 10:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by woodywood (Post 34149890)
:sleeping:

Yeah, thats what happened - your defence went to sleep then

BOOOOOOM!!!!

1-0 to the Copenhagen...

Julian 03-11-2006 11:09

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I've got a freebie ticket for tomorrow's UTD/Portsmouth game, what's it like getting to/from Manchester Piccadilly please?

I'll be getting into Picc at 1230, my train back is around 1735 - will I make it? :erm:

iadom 03-11-2006 11:32

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Take the Metro. PDF of route here,

http://tinyurl.com/yj3dsg

gazzae 03-11-2006 11:39

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I think on Match days you can get a train directly from Piccadilly to OT.

Mal 03-11-2006 12:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Julian (Post 34149921)
I've got a freebie ticket for tomorrow's UTD/Portsmouth game, what's it like getting to/from Manchester Piccadilly please?

I'll be getting into Picc at 1230, my train back is around 1735 - will I make it? :erm:

You should make it to OT on time, but I think you will need to ask Scotty to beam you to Piccadilly to make your return train ;) :D You might want to book a later train. :D

For the trains from Piccadilly, here is some info on who to contact about that.

---------- Post added at 12:59 ---------- Previous post was at 12:52 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 34149938)
Take the Metro. PDF of route here,

http://tinyurl.com/yj3dsg

On the return journey, he will never make it on time to Piccadilly using the Metro. The best bet would be the train.

iadom 03-11-2006 13:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34149945)
I think on Match days you can get a train directly from Piccadilly to OT.

By eck, when I used to go to Old Trafford in the late 60's early 70's we used to get a train from the Central Station direct to Old Trafford's own station, Central station is now the G Mex complex.

A lot of the local train services are supplanted by the Metrolink which runs direct from Piccadilly station to and beyond Old Trafford.

orangebird 03-11-2006 13:33

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COME ON YOU SPURS!!!!:D:D

Julian 03-11-2006 15:50

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Thanks for your replies guys. :tu:

A later train back may be the answer, just find a decent pub to wait in. :D

Mal 05-11-2006 15:44

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I see Whinger has spat his dummy out again after West Ham's goal :D

Can't someone celebrate a goal which has released some pressure on them, nowadays, without being moaned at? ;)

iadom 05-11-2006 16:00

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Classic, I thought he was going to slap Pardew at one stage,:D

Russ 05-11-2006 16:02

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Arsenal lost again?

gooner4life 05-11-2006 16:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mal (Post 34151332)
I see Whinger has spat his dummy out again after West Ham's goal :D

Can't someone celebrate a goal which has released some pressure on them, nowadays, without being moaned at? ;)

Not if they shout racist comments at the other manager in doing so.

Chimaera 05-11-2006 16:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34151340)
Arsenal lost again?

No - West Ham won! :D
And I'm still in a state of shock! :cleader:

Russ 05-11-2006 16:12

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Arsenal slipping down the Premiership, Barca topping the Spanish league.....bet Henry's glad he made the right decision :D

ikthius 05-11-2006 16:15

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Rangers have lost 2-1 to Dundee Utd.

oh, well looks like Paddy Power were right to pay out on Celtic winning the league now :D

ik

gazzae 05-11-2006 16:19

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It's great when Arsenal lose and the toys go flying!

gooner4life 05-11-2006 16:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34149454)
Hilarious result from Man Who last night, they might win the Chumpions league but they are certainly not winning the Champions League..

Mon the Pool!

Take it you are enjoying Young Mr Stokes playing for Falkirk, no shock to me that he's doing so well, always had an eye for goal since his days in the youth team.

Mal 05-11-2006 17:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gooner4life (Post 34151341)
Not if they shout racist comments at the other manager in doing so.

So what did he say then? Nothing has been reported yet.

TheBlueRaja 05-11-2006 20:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gooner4life (Post 34151354)
Take it you are enjoying Young Mr Stokes playing for Falkirk, no shock to me that he's doing so well, always had an eye for goal since his days in the youth team.

Loving it mate, the guys a genius, possibly the best player to pull on a Falkirk Shirt.

I do envy you having him.

gooner4life 05-11-2006 22:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34151486)
Loving it mate, the guys a genius, possibly the best player to pull on a Falkirk Shirt.

I do envy you having him.

Sadly I think you have a great chance of keeping him, he seems to be enjoying it there, apparantly donated his money for young player of the month to falkirks academy as well, nice lad, but the wrong nationality to figure in Wenger's plans I think.

TheBlueRaja 06-11-2006 09:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gooner4life (Post 34151517)
Sadly I think you have a great chance of keeping him, he seems to be enjoying it there, apparantly donated his money for young player of the month to falkirks academy as well, nice lad, but the wrong nationality to figure in Wenger's plans I think.

Despite the fact that i would love that to happen, the general consensus up here is that he wants the Arsenal first team and that he has come here to prove himself.

As far as i know and as far as the rumours go he's here, definitely until Christmas, and possibly until the end of the Season.

Beyond that - who knows.

Regarding is award money, he did indeed donate it to the Falkirk youth Academy, a great gesture.

Saaf_laandon_mo 06-11-2006 09:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gooner4life (Post 34151341)
Not if they shout racist comments at the other manager in doing so.


Didn't look like that from all the news coverage... In fact it looked like Mr Wenger who used the F word first. Anyway old **** has previous, thats teh second manager he's wanted to fight, remember Big Jol?

orangebird 06-11-2006 09:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34151603)
Didn't look like that from all the news coverage... In fact it looked like Mr Wenger who used the F word first. Anyway old **** has previous, thats teh second manager he's wanted to fight, remember Big Jol?

Indeed. That wouldv'e been fun to watch. Whinger would've been snapped in two...

Come on you Spurs!!!!!!!!

gazzae 06-11-2006 10:28

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What a great weekend for Fergie. 20 years at Man Utd. Could have scored 10 on Saturday. Chelsea, Arsenal, Bolton, Portsmouth all lost.

Saaf_laandon_mo 06-11-2006 10:30

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Personally I think this will be Man U's year, at least in the Premiership. I cant see Chelsea outscoring them, and by the timne Arsenal find any consistency the gap wll be too great. There are still more points to be dropped, and I feel its Arsenal and Chelsea and Liverpool that will be dropping more than Man U.

gazzae 06-11-2006 10:38

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As long as Utd can avoid injuries. The depth in some areas is worringly thin.

Saaf_laandon_mo 06-11-2006 11:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34151633)
As long as Utd can avoid injuries. The depth in some areas is worringly thin.

You could say the same with Chelsea tho, 2 out and out strikers (of which one is firing blanks), essien to play as a ceentre back as cover for Terry?, robben, cole, and SWP on the wings - one injury and thats that part of the park looking thin too.

I don't like Man U but I like arsenal even less, and as for liverpool, arrrggghhhh! If chelsea are gonna lose the title this season, i'd like them to lose it to Man U.

TheDaddy 06-11-2006 11:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mal (Post 34151332)
I see Whinger has spat his dummy out again after West Ham's goal :D

Can't someone celebrate a goal which has released some pressure on them, nowadays, without being moaned at? ;)

I missed it, bloody work, however me old mum told me that it looked like Alan was almost in Wenger's face screaming yes when we scored, however as you say this win could have kept him in a job and Sven out of one so perhaps the celebration was justified after all.

Saaf_laandon_mo 06-11-2006 11:30

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What I saw was Pardew jumping up and down (and justifiably so) and then going over to shake Wengers hand. After all the goal was scored in the 90th minute, so Im sre he thought its came over.

Wenger reacted by swearing(thats what it looked like on the footage).

Apparently Pardew offered him a drink after the game too, which Wenger declined. What a idiot, his attitude's one of the main reasons why I don't like Arsenal much nowadays.

gazzae 06-11-2006 11:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34151644)
You could say the same with Chelsea tho, 2 out and out strikers (of which one is firing blanks), essien to play as a ceentre back as cover for Terry?, robben, cole, and SWP on the wings - one injury and thats that part of the park looking thin too.

Kalou can play up front. Boulahrouz can play CB with Ferreira at RB.

Still better depth that Fletcher, O'Shea, Richardson!

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Quote:

Twenty Years Of Friendship Making At Old Trafford

To commemorate Sir Alex Ferguson's twentieth anniversary as manager of ManYoo, it's Sir week on F365. Kicking off our series of Fergie features, here's the Scot's guide for how to make friends and influence people...

http://www.football365.com/story/0,1...662638,00.html
Think this one is apt after the weekend..

"They are the worst losers of all time" - Sir Alex's gracious evaluation of Arsenal.

orangebird 06-11-2006 12:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34151646)
I missed it, bloody work, however me old mum told me that it looked like Alan was almost in Wenger's face screaming yes when we scored, however as you say this win could have kept him in a job and Sven out of one so perhaps the celebration was justified after all.

Pardew was no-where near Whinger when he celebrated.

gazzae 06-11-2006 12:34

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Here is a video of it.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqx-w...elated&search=

TheDaddy 06-11-2006 12:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by orangebird (Post 34151700)
Pardew was no-where near Whinger when he celebrated.

I wonder why Alan is apologising then, if you look at the comments a couple even say he went into the away teams technical area and screamed in Wenger's face! For me the real shame is that instead of gaining confidence from a great win the club has yet more controversy to deal with.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/6119824.stm

Saaf_laandon_mo 06-11-2006 12:51

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I don't see why Alan should apologise at all. The man at fault is Wenger. At least when Mourinho moans we can have a laugh about it, but mr wenger really needs to grow up.

TheBlueRaja 06-11-2006 13:32

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What exactly does Wenger do wrong in that clip? I saw nothing from him other than him pushing Alan away when he walked right up to Wenger to get as close as possible whilst winding him up...

Hugh 06-11-2006 13:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34151731)
What exactly does Wenger do wrong in that clip? I saw nothing from him other than him pushing Alan away when he walked right up to Wenger to get as close as possible whilst winding him up...

Agreed - Alan Pardew goes into the Arsenal management area.

orangebird 06-11-2006 13:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34151731)
What exactly does Wenger do wrong in that clip? I saw nothing from him other than him pushing Alan away when he walked right up to Wenger to get as close as possible whilst winding him up...


He wasn't in shot, that's why you couldn't see - he was berating Pardew for celebrating, which is then when Pardew walked up to him and asked 'What?!'

Whinger just topped it all off by refusing to shake hands after the match. He really is the most terrible sore loser and bad sport. His frustration should go to his very lack lustre team, not the opposing manager.... :rolleyes:

TheBlueRaja 06-11-2006 15:18

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If it wasn't in shot how do you know?

orangebird 06-11-2006 15:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34151785)
If it wasn't in shot how do you know?

I meant in that video clip.

TheBlueRaja 06-11-2006 15:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by orangebird (Post 34151734)
He wasn't in shot, that's why you couldn't see - he was berating Pardew for celebrating, which is then when Pardew walked up to him and asked 'What?!'

Whinger just topped it all off by refusing to shake hands after the match. He really is the most terrible sore loser and bad sport. His frustration should go to his very lack lustre team, not the opposing manager.... :rolleyes:

What i mean is that this is speculation surely, i didn't see Wegner do anything other than not shake hands at the end and ALAN going towards the Aresnal dug out acting like a 5 year old.

You couldn't see what Wegner was doing so how do you know he was berating Pardew?

As far as i can see from that clip the only thing you could say Wegner did wrong was push Alan away then refuse to shake his hand at the end, which based on the way Alan was acting seems reasonable to me.

TheDaddy 06-11-2006 16:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34151802)
What i mean is that this is speculation surely, i didn't see Wegner do anything other than not shake hands at the end and ALAN going towards the Aresnal dug out acting like a 5 year old.

You couldn't see what Wegner was doing so how do you know he was berating Pardew?

As far as i can see from that clip the only thing you could say Wegner did wrong was push Alan away then refuse to shake his hand at the end, which based on the way Alan was acting seems reasonable to me.

I think you are right however given the importance of the match to us perhaps Wenger could have risen above it, as it probably wasn't meant personally, after all their action's are seen by millions of children

Mal 06-11-2006 16:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34151802)
What i mean is that this is speculation surely, i didn't see Wegner do anything other than not shake hands at the end and ALAN going towards the Aresnal dug out acting like a 5 year old.

You couldn't see what Wegner was doing so how do you know he was berating Pardew?

As far as i can see from that clip the only thing you could say Wegner did wrong was push Alan away then refuse to shake his hand at the end, which based on the way Alan was acting seems reasonable to me.

...but it is just speculation that Wenger didn't do anything as well, for the same reason, he wasn't in shot to see what he was doing.

The first thing that you can see was Pardew going "What?" in the direction of Wenger. Also, that clip on youtube didn't show all of it. The bit just where it cuts to an angle from behind the goal, Wenger actually goes to West Ham's technical area and tries again to have a go again...

yesman 06-11-2006 17:05

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Wengers Official Statement.........

"I was disgusted at the treatment we received at West Ham. Our players are used to playing in a quiet, respectful atmosphere in which we can discuss tactics, compare our nice gloves, and scream loudly to let the referee know we've been tackled and need a free kick.

The atmosphere at Upton Park was little short of hostile. The opposing fans sang, shouted and cheered in a manner we are not used to. Almost all of them stayed for the whole game, too. This was strange to us; it doesn't happen back at the Al Qaeda Stadium.

In addition, our bag man left the team's glove bag back at Gonforaburton Grove, meaning that many of our players were playing with cold hands, and some of them cried.

My dispute with Alan Pardew was over his comments following their goal. "Did you see that?" he shouted. This was insulting. He must know that I see NOTHING on the pitch, unless it is a poor decision against Arsenal. And I am NOT a 'Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey', whoever said that..."

TheBlueRaja 06-11-2006 17:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mal (Post 34151872)
...but it is just speculation that Wenger didn't do anything as well, for the same reason, he wasn't in shot to see what he was doing.

The first thing that you can see was Pardew going "What?" in the direction of Wenger. Also, that clip on youtube didn't show all of it. The bit just where it cuts to an angle from behind the goal, Wenger actually goes to West Ham's technical area and tries again to have a go again...

Like that guy said off Catchphrase... Just say what you see :D

I haven't seen anything else other than that Youtube clip and can comment only on what i saw in that.

Orangebird said -

Quote:

He wasn't in shot, that's why you couldn't see - he was berating Pardew for celebrating, which is then when Pardew walked up to him and asked 'What?!'
Its this that I question as i've not seen any video incriminating Wegner in this way.

Slightly OT, but Gordon Strachan did almost exactly the same thing up here after beating Hearts, nobody really batted an eyelid up here, its just part of the game IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-93bk6de2s

Mal 06-11-2006 17:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34151894)
Like that guy said off Catchphrase... Just say what you see :D

I haven't seen anything else other than that Youtube clip and can comment only on what i saw in that.

Why would Pardew, at the start of the clip, be making gestures as to say "What?" in the direction of Wenger for then, if he did nothing?

Yes, it doesn't show that he did anything, but then it didn't show that he did nothing either.

If you saw it on tv, you saw Wenger push Pardew away, telling him to F... off and then trying to start it again after Pardew had gone back to his area.

Pardew was in his own area when he was celebrating. Hence him spitting his dummy out ;)

Saaf_laandon_mo 06-11-2006 23:21

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Apparently PArdew shouted out "Made in England" as part of his celebrations when Harwood scored. He was supposedly having a dig at Wenger's recent comments about the fact that there are not good enough english players to make his starting eleven, well thats what I just heard on the radio.

Wenger is just a little boy who cant take a beating.....

homealone 06-11-2006 23:37

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Grimsby have sacked Graham Rodger, apparently ;)

carlingman 06-11-2006 23:53

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Well as an Arsenal fan (yes we are still here).

Before you all jump in making comments from the u tube video posted I suggest you watch the full footage before wading in.

Nevertheless after watching it live and watching it again I am ashamed, Wenger was a disgrace and should be brought up over this incident.

Pardew probably one of the most under pressure managers in the premiership who would have taken a point before the kick off was quite rightly elated and celebrated in his dug out area the scoring of the goal.

Credit where credit is due it was well worked goal through a sloppy back four of ours and the penalty clain aside we did not deserve to win that game nor the previous game for that matter.

If you cannot put the chances away they you can play like the best 11 in the world but it is all fruitless unless you put the ball in the back of the net.

Coming from Wenger a man who always insists on the handshake his actions were childish and his language and push and shove tactics were shameful - provoked or not a man in his position should know better.

Once again a lack lustre performance by the team and an appauling decision by the ref will fail into insiginifcance as this game will be remembered for Wengers actions both at the time of the incident and post match as well.

Big :tu: to Alan Pardew for apologising even though he had nothing to apologise for.

Big :td: to Arsene for not being man enough to admit he was wrong.

It pains me to say it but for once Jose Mourinho had the right idea after the Spurs game, man enough to face the press and made some worthy comments about the refs having to front up afterwards as well.

Whilst Wenger is a great manager on this occasion he was nothing more than a disgrace to the club and to hsi country and the saddening part is it will portray the game in a bad light to all the lip reading youngsters watching.

:td:

TheBlueRaja 07-11-2006 09:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34152139)
Apparently PArdew shouted out "Made in England" as part of his celebrations when Harwood scored. He was supposedly having a dig at Wenger's recent comments about the fact that there are not good enough english players to make his starting eleven, well thats what I just heard on the radio.

Wenger is just a little boy who cant take a beating.....

Oh im sure... :rolleyes:

woodywood 07-11-2006 10:24

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So its the Mighty Man Utd against Scunthorpe, obviously it will be another one where we wait till the last min and nick the result!!:dozey:

iadom 07-11-2006 11:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by woodywood (Post 34152271)
So its the Mighty Man Utd against Scunthorpe, obviously it will be another one where we wait till the last min and nick the result!!:dozey:


I thought they were playing Southend Utd,;)

Julian 07-11-2006 21:57

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Not Fergies best present. :disturbd:

gazzae 07-11-2006 22:12

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Sure its only the Mickey Mouse Cup ;)

Reinstates what I said earlier about a lack of depth.

Gareth 08-11-2006 10:33

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tee-hee-hee... this has gotta go down in history, along with that defeat against the Cherries back in '84, and the 3-0 one against York in '95.

woodywood 08-11-2006 10:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 34152312)
I thought they were playing Southend Utd,;)

sorry mate u were right i had my BURY head on!!

TheBlueRaja 08-11-2006 11:15

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GIRUY Celtic - FTOF!!!!

We humped you tonight on your own turf - The so called "best fans in the world" only managed to bring 18,000 out for a semi-final cup match and we showed you what real fans are, your paid off linesman couldn't even save you tonight.

We support our local team you weegie shell-suited gimps!

OOOH TONY TONY! - CHAMPIONS LEAGUE - YOUR HAVING A LAFF

COME ON YE BAIRNS!

gazzae 08-11-2006 15:18

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31/08/2006 - Alan Pardew "It is a massive coup for us. I've no doubt this will give us a real chance to compete with the very best teams in the Premiership and in Europe."

07/11/2006 Tevez scores his first West Ham goals. For the reserves. In a defeat to Southampton.

Hugh 08-11-2006 15:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34153267)
GIRUY Celtic - FTOF!!!!

We humped you tonight on your own turf - The so called "best fans in the world" only managed to bring 18,000 out for a semi-final cup match and we showed you what real fans are, your paid off linesman couldn't even save you tonight.

We support our local team you weegie shell-suited gimps!

OOOH TONY TONY! - CHAMPIONS LEAGUE - YOUR HAVING A LAFF

COME ON YE BAIRNS!

Nice to see you're as gracious as Gordon Strachan, then ;)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ic/6126612.stm
"Celtic manager Gordon Strachan was magnanimous in defeat after Falkirk knocked out the CIS Insurance Cup holders after a penalty shoot-out.

"First of all, well done to Falkirk," he said. "They went at it and made some chances and so did we. "It went to penalties and they did better than us, it was as simple as that, so well done to them."

Falkirk are only 4 points behind Hearts - you could still manage second this year.:D

punky 08-11-2006 17:19

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Looks like both Wenger and Pardew will be charged.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/6129384.stm

It will be a crying shame if Wenger's little temper tantrum drags Pardew down with him. Pardew's done nothing wrong.


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