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homealone 05-06-2006 19:31
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick
thanks Mick :tu:

NTL always seem to beg one question, while answering another, though, don't they? - in this case why can't the home100 & 120 modems be upgraded at the same time as the others? Also what does 'in the near future', mean? - do we assume that will be within the 'end of June' timescale?

- not expecting you to answer those, Mick, it was just my first thoughts on reading the article :)

budwieser 05-06-2006 19:32
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick
Good post mate! Hopefully it`ll satisfy some people`s curiosity! :dozey: :D

jtwn 05-06-2006 19:52
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Guess it is an improvement that ntl wish to communicate this info to its customers, rather than just leaving them completely in the dark.

Code601 05-06-2006 21:07
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick
Excellent Excelent news *rubs cat on lap*

I thank cable forum :dunce: for bringing this FANTASTIC news to us!

Maybe this firmware upgrade will also fix the issues ive been having with connection loss, where i cant get anyting for a few minutes, and most often have to reboot the modem!

turbulentone 05-06-2006 21:10
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Code601
Excellent Excelent news *rubs cat on lap*

I thank cable forum :dunce: for bringing this FANTASTIC news to us!

Maybe this firmware upgrade will also fix the issues ive been having with connection loss, where i cant get anyting for a few minutes, and most often have to reboot the modem!

Its not afirmware update but a change of config file. They are 2 different things. Also 100's and 120's won't be done yet

dsemuk 05-06-2006 21:24
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Retrovertigo
While I'm on a roll asking questions in a "polite manner" :) - howcome you can't change speeds more than once a month? Is it merely a billing issue? I know this is veering off-topic somewhat. But if someone knows, I'd appreciate an answer. Thanks.
That just wouldn't be workable....

Imagine you want to download the latest Linux distro and you want it quick "hello customer services I'd like to go onto the 10Mb service please" download the files and "hello customer services I'd like to go onto the 1Mb service please" Kids on school holidays "hello I'd like to go onto the 4Mb service please" and so on.

Unworkable in my opinion.

Be gentle with me this is my first post.

Graham M 05-06-2006 21:27
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
:welcome: dsemuk and to be honest the monthly limit on speed changes apart from everyone phoning CS to download the latest movie for an hour and then going back down to 2/4MBit it's probably to do with the billing systems as well.

Retrovertigo 05-06-2006 22:46
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dsemuk
That just wouldn't be workable....

Imagine you want to download the latest Linux distro and you want it quick "hello customer services I'd like to go onto the 10Mb service please" download the files and "hello customer services I'd like to go onto the 1Mb service please" Kids on school holidays "hello I'd like to go onto the 4Mb service please" and so on.

Unworkable in my opinion.

Be gentle with me this is my first post.
Hello!! and yes I see what you mean. I was thinking more along the lines of switching tiers online though. Maybe not once a day, but say, a while ago I switched down speeds and regretted it so wanted to switch back straightaway.

Incidentally, why can you switch up on the site but not down?

bilal 05-06-2006 23:25
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by turbulentone
Its not afirmware update but a change of config file. They are 2 different things. Also 100's and 120's won't be done yet
But im guessing they will be done by the end of June cause if they dont they've broken their end of June promise.

popper 05-06-2006 23:33
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Retrovertigo
Hello!! and yes I see what you mean. I was thinking more along the lines of switching tiers online though. Maybe not once a day, but say, a while ago I switched down speeds and regretted it so wanted to switch back straightaway.

Incidentally, why can you switch up on the site but not down?
that would be NTL and their 'odd ways', probably because someone high up the chain thought that might encurage people to to easly downgrade and cost them money.

if anyones interested
'BBC to air World Cup, Wimbledon live online'
http://www.dtg.org.uk/news/news.php?...ss=193&id=1710

probably not mpeg2 HD or AVC HD streaming, but i wonder if they might do SD mpeg2 or SD AVC rather than some sub-standard 640x480 or less, we might need some more bandwidth if they did become really inovative and try streaming HD AVC to your high spec PC.

Chrysalis 05-06-2006 23:51
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Are swansea and the other 2 areas better networks then other areas? if yes, would they roll it out there and if no problems assume other areas will be fine and then do a rollout on faster scale, since I cant imagine ntl doing only 3 areas a week.

Keane 05-06-2006 23:57
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
I come from Belfast and am excited to hear about the 2mb to 4mb happening here first, but what time during the day would these updates normally be expected? the stroke of midnight, before breakfast, midday?

I wouldn't want to be foolishly reseting my modem just for an update that may not have been sent.

Graham M 06-06-2006 00:07
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keane
I come from Belfast and am excited to hear about the 2mb to 4mb happening here first.
Where'd you hear that?

Mal 06-06-2006 00:08
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeph
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keane
I come from Belfast and am excited to hear about the 2mb to 4mb happening here first.
Where'd you hear that?
Was it from here?

Keane 06-06-2006 00:09
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Yeah it was.

Sounds like those three places including Belfast would be first unless we are getting screwed and they are leaving us last.

Graham M 06-06-2006 00:09
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Ah didnt see that :)

Web-Junkie 06-06-2006 01:11
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keane
I come from Belfast and am excited to hear about the 2mb to 4mb happening here first, but what time during the day would these updates normally be expected? the stroke of midnight, before breakfast, midday?

I wouldn't want to be foolishly reseting my modem just for an update that may not have been sent.
I believe NTL will reset your modem when the new config file is available so you don't have to do it yourself. When the modem reboots it will pickup the new config file and give you 4mb.

Albie 06-06-2006 06:33
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
we will be rolling out new configuration files in Cardiff, Swansea and Belfast this week.
Yay! https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2006/06/8.gif



EDIT: Oh crap. I just saw the bit about the 120 modems that will be updated in the "near future". :(

Eric55 06-06-2006 07:28
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
My upgrade was done this morning. Newport South Wales

sp3ctre 06-06-2006 07:56
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Albie
Yay! https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2006/06/8.gif



EDIT: Oh crap. I just saw the bit about the 120 modems that will be updated in the "near future". :(
LOL!!!Sorry fella, but that's poetic justice for rubbing our noses in it! ;)

Chrysalis 06-06-2006 08:07
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
I assume ntl will auto reboot your modem, and I would think the most likely time of day for the upgrade to happen is early morning between midnight and 8am, not this week of course unless you in one of the 3 areas ntl announced.

If I was still on ntl and had no upgrade next tues morning I would try rebooting my modem possibly every 2 or 3 days following that date at 9am.

utt 06-06-2006 08:40
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Hi all

Configuration files for the migration to 4Mb from 2Mb were deployed last night in Cardiff, Swansea and Belfast, however you will need to reboot your cable modem to get the increased speed.

BrightonJohn 06-06-2006 08:57
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
I assume that all of this up-grading will also apply to the set top box users as well. I also assume that the new silver SAMSUNG boxes will manage this but that some of my clients using the PACE boxes which could not manage 2mb will certainly not see 4mb. Will NTL now be replacing all of those before the end of June?

Swansea-Jack 06-06-2006 09:03
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Tue, 06 Jun 2006 08:03:31 GMT

1st 512K took 1109 ms = 461.7 KB/sec, approx 3804 Kbps, 3.71 Mbps
2nd 512K took 1079 ms = 474.5 KB/sec, approx 3910 Kbps, 3.82 Mbps
3rd 512K took 1078 ms = 475 KB/sec, approx 3914 Kbps, 3.82 Mbps
4th 512K took 1078 ms = 475 KB/sec, approx 3914 Kbps, 3.82 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 3886 Kbps, 3.79 Mbps

Keane 06-06-2006 09:22
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
I can confirm it's been upgraded in Belfast.

I downloaded the Halo demo from the Microsoft.com site (since they can pay for the high speed servers) and was getting around 450kbs but seemed to slowly creep into the 460kb range.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7029/untitled45wa.jpg
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http://dslguide.org/


Results from broadband speed test recorded on Tuesday, 06 June 2006, 09:21. Your Connection

Speed Test Results
Downstream 3,836.7 Kbps ( = 3.7 Mbps ) Upstream 376.3 Kbps ( = 0.4 Mbps )

chrisjones 06-06-2006 09:35
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
its all sooo exciting. Roll on Leeds upgrades!

stamp92 06-06-2006 09:52
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
after seeing the notice thatcardiff would be one of the first areas to be upgraded i have checked my speed and indeed it has been upgraded and is now abt 470 -480 kbps

akane1984 06-06-2006 10:02
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
whats the upload speed for 10mb? 400k ?

Graham M 06-06-2006 10:06
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
500k

BrightonJohn 06-06-2006 10:12
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Do we have dates for any other areas as yet - e.g. Brighton? And do set top boxes need to be rebooted - they normally do!!

ikthius 06-06-2006 10:22
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
I was wondering.......

if NTL "need to upgrade the configuration files of ntlHome 100 & ntlHome 120 modems, which we plan to do in the near future."

When will this be?
Will the upgrade to these configuration files be done before the end of june?
Will all people on the 2Mb speed be upgraded to the 4Mb speed regardless of modem?

just to find out as I have one of the NTLHome 120 modems

ik

Martyn 06-06-2006 10:30
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrightonJohn
Do we have dates for any other areas as yet - e.g. Brighton? And do set top boxes need to be rebooted - they normally do!!
i phoned up, after few days of them telling me i am able to get 4mb. they said it isnt in my area yet.. what asses, lol just messin me about..


anyways. they said it should all be completed on the 22nd of this month, so if it isnt done by then, phone up.:)

---------- Post added at 10:30 ---------- Previous post was at 10:29 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrysalis
Regarding the "up to" I think its reaonable to expect full burst in twilight hours every day, as during that time of day no isp should be maxed out, and perhaps a slowdown to around 60% of max burst during peak times. Thats what I would call reasonable. On a 20:1 contended product where the shared bandwidth is at least 4 times the user's burst speed so in this case 40mbit I think this is easily achievable. The problem with both BT and NTL at current I believe they are contending at way higher then 20:1 probably nearer 50:1 to allow them to sell broadband agressivley and in addition in NTLs case they are not sharing 4x users burst instead its 2.7 in some areas which only have 27mbit. I think if a user is getting sub 2meg speeds on a 10meg burstable line they have every right to complain, they should of course verify it isnt the source server first tho by checking from multiple locations. Also I wish people would stop spreading the impression that NTL are carefully making sure people get full speeds etc. first, this isnt true as many people found out in the last few upgrades, why would ntl suddenly change their policy now? Dont be at all surprised if you go from a solid 2mbit connection to a variable 4mbit connection. Also 10 meggers dont be surprised that once these upgrades are complete you suffer slower speeds.
i remember seeing 50:1 some where i will look around on there site.

kin242 06-06-2006 11:00
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Anyone know if/when it'll be done for north london?

spectra 06-06-2006 11:12
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Bouncing like a mofo

Tue, 06 Jun 2006 10:09:38 GMT

1st 512K took 625 ms = 819.2 KB/sec, approx 6750 Kbps, 6.59 Mbps
2nd 512K took 515 ms = 994.2 KB/sec, approx 8192 Kbps, 8 Mbps
3rd 512K took 219 ms = 2337.9 KB/sec, approx 19264 Kbps, 18.81 Mbps
4th 512K took 172 ms = 2976.7 KB/sec, approx 24528 Kbps, 23.95 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 14684 Kbps, 14.34 Mbps

chrisjones 06-06-2006 11:36
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Harrogate HG1 area:

ue, 06 Jun 2006 10:35:57 GMT

1st 512K took 2203 ms = 232.4 KB/sec, approx 1915 Kbps, 1.87 Mbps
2nd 512K took 2156 ms = 237.5 KB/sec, approx 1957 Kbps, 1.91 Mbps
3rd 512K took 2172 ms = 235.7 KB/sec, approx 1942 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps
4th 512K took 2156 ms = 237.5 KB/sec, approx 1957 Kbps, 1.91 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1943 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps

grubbymitts 06-06-2006 12:01
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Let me be the first to start the inevitable "Will NTL swap my 120 modem?" discussion. How dare they not update the 120 modems? If I spill tea on it will this get me a teryon 250? NTL YOU WAZZOCKS SORT IT OUT!!!!11!!eleventy1 ;)

I have a 120 modem, and so do a hell of a lot of other NTL broadband subscribers. The 120s were a pain in the backside to upgrade to 10mb, so it's obvious that NTL will check that the 4mb config file works flawlessly :rofl: before deploying it to such a huge user base. Have patience, it will come.

mcmanic 06-06-2006 12:46
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by grubbymitts
Let me be the first to start the inevitable "Will NTL swap my 120 modem?" discussion. How dare they not update the 120 modems? If I spill tea on it will this get me a teryon 250? NTL YOU WAZZOCKS SORT IT OUT!!!!11!!eleventy1 ;)

I have a 120 modem, and so do a hell of a lot of other NTL broadband subscribers. The 120s were a pain in the backside to upgrade to 10mb, so it's obvious that NTL will check that the 4mb config file works flawlessly :rofl: before deploying it to such a huge user base. Have patience, it will come.
yeah just like they tested it before on the 10meg (003 firmware) then it took 2 weeks of us complaining to them that it borked the NTL120 modems and then saying no its fine before someone with half a brain said yes its the firmware and rolled it back to 002.

strange why Brighton is so late on the rollout list if CS is correct in saying the 22nd, usually its one of the 1st area's. Anyway i'm not bothered this time, 2meg unlimited suits me, i'll wait for 4meg unlimited when it gets to me and if it borks the 120's again like the 10meg upgrade then i'd rather it had a accident this time and get a new modem, after all i'm only renting it -if its not fit for the purpose and they wish for me to continue paying for their service they will soon swap it over asap

popper 06-06-2006 12:51
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spectra
Bouncing like a mofo

Tue, 06 Jun 2006 10:09:38 GMT

1st 512K took 625 ms = 819.2 KB/sec, approx 6750 Kbps, 6.59 Mbps
2nd 512K took 515 ms = 994.2 KB/sec, approx 8192 Kbps, 8 Mbps
3rd 512K took 219 ms = 2337.9 KB/sec, approx 19264 Kbps, 18.81 Mbps

4th 512K took 172 ms = 2976.7 KB/sec, approx 24528 Kbps, 23.95 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 14684 Kbps, 14.34 Mbps
thats interesting, obvously its not right, and they may have been playing around with their kit, but that 23.95 Mbps implys that the modem and the ubr can do around 25.Mbps today, i assume you have an ntl 250.

i wonder what the max real upload rate would have been.

banjo 06-06-2006 12:58
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
So what number do I ring to get my 100 modem swapped out for free ? I am not going to pay for it !!

etccarmageddon 06-06-2006 13:04
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martyn
i remember seeing 50:1 some where i will look around on there site.
http://www.ntl.com/mediacentre/theco...faq/?section=3

"Q. I've heard that contention ratios differ between cable and ADSL broadband. Can you explain?
A. Yes. We have engineered our local access network to provide a 20:1 contention ratio in comparison to a number of ADSL providers who have contention ratios as high as 50:1. The "contention ratio" is the number of customers that share one unit of data capacity, meaning the lower the contention ratio the higher the quality of the local access network."

James Henry 06-06-2006 13:35
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
http://www.ntl.com/mediacentre/theco...faq/?section=3

"Q. I've heard that contention ratios differ between cable and ADSL broadband. Can you explain?
A. Yes. We have engineered our local access network to provide a 20:1 contention ratio in comparison to a number of ADSL providers who have contention ratios as high as 50:1. The "contention ratio" is the number of customers that share one unit of data capacity, meaning the lower the contention ratio the higher the quality of the local access network."
Bullsh**.

Although it does have the claim:

Quote:
Q. Where there's a choice between ntl Broadband and ADSL how many take your service?
A. A. We estimate approximately 3 out of 4 customers chose ntl Broadband over ADSL, where ntl is available.
To keep it company, although that could easily be spun to be claiming that 3 out of 4 customers who already have ntl choose their broadband over ADSL.

Cable covers a bit under 50% of population so if it's outselling DSL 3:1 in its' own areas
it should have about 60% of the total connections DSL has (3:1 + 0:4 = 3:5 = 60%). Considering that ADSL is used by over 8 million people cable should in that case have 4.8 million broadband users. I'm fairly sure it doesn't, I find 2:2 + 0:4 = 2:6 = 33% or about 2.66 million to 8 million far more realistic considering the just under 50% where coverage of both overlaps.

etccarmageddon 06-06-2006 13:38
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
I tend to suspect it is bull as I'm on the (upto) 10meg tier but am getting only (upto) 7meg.

James Henry 06-06-2006 13:45
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
I tend to suspect it is bull as I'm on the (upto) 10meg tier but am getting only (upto) 7meg.
Each card gives 27 or 38Mbit in Langley areas. 200 4Mbit customers will break the 20:1 on a 38Mbit card, that doesn't include the 1Mbit or 10Mbit users.

They will contend as high as they can like everyone else. Anyway slightly offtopic - contention shouldn't matter a jot so long as performance is alright.

etccarmageddon 06-06-2006 14:00
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
I just dont believe the speed increase of the top tier from 3 to 10meg and the new increase of the middle tier from 2 to 4meg have been matched by equal amounts of extra kit in the UBRs.

turbulentone 06-06-2006 14:05
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by banjo
So what number do I ring to get my 100 modem swapped out for free ? I am not going to pay for it !!
You don't get it swapped unless its defective which would need to be clarified by Tech Support

banjo 06-06-2006 14:11
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by turbulentone
You don't get it swapped unless its defective which would need to be clarified by Tech Support
Thank you :) for your reply.

ikthius 06-06-2006 14:11
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
so does anyone know when the NTLHome 100 & 120's are being upgraded?

ik

etccarmageddon 06-06-2006 14:12
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by turbulentone
You don't get it swapped unless its defective which would need to be clarified by Tech Support
I wouldn't envy anyone trying to convince tech support that their modem is defective.

chrisjones 06-06-2006 14:38
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
I wouldn't envy anyone trying to convince tech support that their modem is defective.
Ive heard they dont take too well to Fish Tanks....;)

Druchii 06-06-2006 14:43
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisjones
Ive heard they dont take too well to Fish Tanks....;)
*winks* I err... Accidentally, er... nudged mine when i was cleaning the tank out... ;)

etccarmageddon 06-06-2006 14:51
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
you wouldnt need to offer excuses you'd just point out that no lights were lit up and therefore it had died of natural causes.

chrisjones 06-06-2006 15:02
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Druchii
*winks* I err... Accidentally, er... nudged mine when i was cleaning the tank out... ;)
Whilst your on the phone - claim a couple of free months to cover the costs of replacing the now fried Goldfish.;)

Druchii 06-06-2006 15:19
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisjones
Whilst your on the phone - claim a couple of free months to cover the costs of replacing the now fried Goldfish.;)
Gotcha ;)

Shame i'm not on the phone really, could do with some new goldfish :p

Ritch 06-06-2006 15:26
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
I'm gutted to just find I have an NTL 120 modem, presumeably the 100 & 120s are the oldest then?

Druchii 06-06-2006 15:28
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ritch
I'm gutted to just find I have an NTL 120 modem, presumeably the 100 & 120s are the oldest then?
Most certainly are. I would suggest asking for an upgrade, afterall, you do pay for it.

Ritch 06-06-2006 15:32
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Would an upgrade be of any extra charge to me?

Druchii 06-06-2006 15:36
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ritch
Would an upgrade be of any extra charge to me?
They would most likely try and charge you, it depends who you get on the other end of the phone and the engineer who is there on the day to replace it. I guess you could claim it keeps turning itself off randomly and you're not quite sure why.

Other people on the board know alot more about these things though, best off waiting til one of them reads this and offers a better alternative.

turbulentone 06-06-2006 15:43
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Changing modems isn't an upgrade, the 100 and 120 will work fine, just they are having some additional testing

James Henry 06-06-2006 16:07
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ritch
I'm gutted to just find I have an NTL 120 modem, presumeably the 100 & 120s are the oldest then?
The Terayons and CMXes are the oldest, however they are 'quality' modems despite their age while the ntl 100 + 120 were built as cheaply as possible.

banjo 06-06-2006 16:16
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by James Henry
The Terayons and CMXes are the oldest, however they are 'quality' modems despite their age while the ntl 100 + 120 were built as cheaply as possible.
Does this mean that the 100 and 120 modems fail on a regular basis :angel:

Griffin 06-06-2006 16:37
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by banjo
Does this mean that the 100 and 120 modems fail on a regular basis :angel:
I don't see why there should be a problem with the 120 modem as i have that one & mine worked fine on the 10mb speed never had a problem & 95% of the time i could get max speed

dragon 06-06-2006 16:37
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by James Henry
The Terayons and CMXes are the oldest, however they are 'quality' modems despite their age while the ntl 100 + 120 were built as cheaply as possible.
what about the motorola Surfboards.

mcmanic 06-06-2006 16:46
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by turbulentone
Changing modems isn't an upgrade, the 100 and 120 will work fine, just they are having some additional testing
is there anything offical on this, do this mean us poor 100 or 120 owners have to wait even longer then, lol - blooming typical that is if so, whats the odds it'll still be borked

JeLLyMaN 06-06-2006 17:10
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Well that sucks about the 100 and 120's :dozey:.

I assume most of the older customers have 100 or 120's if they havn't already been upgraded?

DJ_Price 06-06-2006 17:11
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Ive got a 120 modem & I was wondering if i could get hold of a 250 modem & connect it all up would it work ok & would i then receive the 4mb upgrade as Im in Cardiff. :erm:

jtwn 06-06-2006 17:13
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by James Henry
The Terayons and CMXes are the oldest, however they are 'quality' modems despite their age while the ntl 100 + 120 were built as cheaply as possible.
Yes, but they worked for the job fine at the time? Its got to be cheaper to churn out cruddy modems that just do the job than trying to future proof for speeds or tech that may never be taken advantage of / by the customer.

James Henry 06-06-2006 17:48
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtwn
Yes, but they worked for the job fine at the time? Its got to be cheaper to churn out cruddy modems that just do the job than trying to future proof for speeds or tech that may never be taken advantage of / by the customer.
Which has what to do with my statement that the CMX and Terayon are fine for 4Mbit despite their age as they were built to a higher quality than the 100 /120 modems which were built for as low a cost as possible?

bilal 06-06-2006 18:03
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
i have the ntl 120 and always get full speed on 2mbit. I also know someone who has 10mbit with an ntl 120 modem and they get full speed on that.

So ntl 120 modems arent bad, they just need to do some additional testing on them as turbulentone said and as long as they get that testing done by the end of June and i get my 4mbit upgrade i won't mind...

MindfreeZe 06-06-2006 18:18
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Tue, 6 Jun 2006 17:16:53 UTC

1st 512K took 1079 ms = 474.5 KB/sec, approx 3910 Kbps, 3.82 Mbps
2nd 512K took 1093 ms = 468.4 KB/sec, approx 3860 Kbps, 3.77 Mbps
3rd 512K took 1078 ms = 475 KB/sec, approx 3914 Kbps, 3.82 Mbps
4th 512K took 1079 ms = 474.5 KB/sec, approx 3910 Kbps, 3.82 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 3899 Kbps, 3.81 Mbps



YAY! Just got upgraded this second in Belfast!

Connection going a bit mad though, can't connect to proxy or msn messenger etc.

Timeless Stew 06-06-2006 18:23
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
It seems NTL downgraded us :dozey: (GU15)

Tue, 06 Jun 2006 17:19:58 GMT

1st 512K took 15485 ms = 33.1 KB/sec, approx 273 Kbps, 0.27 Mbps
2nd 512K took 6969 ms = 73.5 KB/sec, approx 606 Kbps, 0.59 Mbps
3rd 512K took 9250 ms = 55.4 KB/sec, approx 456 Kbps, 0.45 Mbps
4th 512K took 4640 ms = 110.3 KB/sec, approx 909 Kbps, 0.89 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 561 Kbps, 0.55 Mbps

Pathetic for 2Mbs service, no?

MindfreeZe 06-06-2006 18:27
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Downloading the Hitman Blood Money demo here and getting a steady 499Kb/s

kevdyas 06-06-2006 18:32
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spectra

Tue, 06 Jun 2006 10:09:38 GMT

1st 512K took 625 ms = 819.2 KB/sec, approx 6750 Kbps, 6.59 Mbps
2nd 512K took 515 ms = 994.2 KB/sec, approx 8192 Kbps, 8 Mbps
3rd 512K took 219 ms = 2337.9 KB/sec, approx 19264 Kbps, 18.81 Mbps
4th 512K took 172 ms = 2976.7 KB/sec, approx 24528 Kbps, 23.95 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 14684 Kbps, 14.34 Mbps
How do you do one of these speed checks?

Kev.

sp3ctre 06-06-2006 18:37
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
click the speed test link at the top of this page

kevdyas 06-06-2006 18:50
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Got it!
I'm on 2MB (still!).

Tue, 6 Jun 2006 17:49:36 UTC

1st 512K took 2250 ms = 227.6 KB/sec, approx 1875 Kbps, 1.83 Mbps
2nd 512K took 2172 ms = 235.7 KB/sec, approx 1942 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps
3rd 512K took 2171 ms = 235.8 KB/sec, approx 1943 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps
4th 512K took 2172 ms = 235.7 KB/sec, approx 1942 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1926 Kbps, 1.88 Mbps

Kev.

king2001 06-06-2006 18:52
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Yep I'm up to 4mb too!

Tue, 6 Jun 2006 17:49:10 UTC

1st 512K took 1078 ms = 475 KB/sec, approx 3914 Kbps, 3.82 Mbps
2nd 512K took 1094 ms = 468 KB/sec, approx 3856 Kbps, 3.77 Mbps
3rd 512K took 1078 ms = 475 KB/sec, approx 3914 Kbps, 3.82 Mbps
4th 512K took 1078 ms = 475 KB/sec, approx 3914 Kbps, 3.82 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 3900 Kbps, 3.81 Mbps

Getting about 475-485kbps off their newsgroups as well.

I knew living in the Swansea area would be good for something one day!

turbulentone 06-06-2006 19:03
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kevdyas
Got it!
I'm on 2MB (still!).

Tue, 6 Jun 2006 17:49:36 UTC

1st 512K took 2250 ms = 227.6 KB/sec, approx 1875 Kbps, 1.83 Mbps
2nd 512K took 2172 ms = 235.7 KB/sec, approx 1942 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps
3rd 512K took 2171 ms = 235.8 KB/sec, approx 1943 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps
4th 512K took 2172 ms = 235.7 KB/sec, approx 1942 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1926 Kbps, 1.88 Mbps

Kev.
I take it you don't live in Cardiff, Swansea or Belfast then

kevdyas 06-06-2006 19:08
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Nope! Sadly not.
Although after the technical problem at the weekend I don't know if the upgrade at Nottingham is the one which will update my service as the technical problem there is the one which was to blame for my own problem on Sunday (although thats according to India who won't know where neither Grimsby nor Nottingham is!).

Kev.

clayts 06-06-2006 19:28
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Grimsby and Nottingham are both in London, where The Beatles come from, Any fool knows that.

sp3ctre 06-06-2006 19:48
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by clayts
Grimsby and Nottingham are both in London, where The Beatles come from, Any fool knows that.
Yeah, just ask "Kevin, from Bombay" (why do they insist on pretending to be English???) :dozey:

astra_lestat 06-06-2006 20:03
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Tue, 6 Jun 2006 18:59:30 UTC

1st 512K took 2156 ms = 237.5 KB/sec, approx 1957 Kbps, 1.91 Mbps
2nd 512K took 2172 ms = 235.7 KB/sec, approx 1942 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps
3rd 512K took 2187 ms = 234.1 KB/sec, approx 1929 Kbps, 1.88 Mbps
4th 512K took 2156 ms = 237.5 KB/sec, approx 1957 Kbps, 1.91 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1946 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps

Bedford, Software Upgrade File Name : ntlhm120_ntl0001.cpr

hoops67 06-06-2006 20:14
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
called up ntl and got half price broadband for 3 months. will phone up again in 3 months and get another one ;) , the guy goes to me that i should be on 4mb even though i told him im on 2mb. i know my area ( renfrew ) hasnt been upgraded yet, anyway he put me through to tech support and the guy there said all of the speed upgrades will be done by the 22nd june.

Martyn 06-06-2006 20:15
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
wow well not sure if i been upgrade or what i check n it was close to 3.5 mb..

i check again n its close to 2mb.. lol weird..

if only ntl wasnt playing up at the moment i could check with other speed tests

jtwn 06-06-2006 20:19
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by James Henry
Which has what to do with my statement that the CMX and Terayon are fine for 4Mbit despite their age as they were built to a higher quality than the 100 /120 modems which were built for as low a cost as possible?
Its got to do with your statement of saying the 100 and 120 are so cheap that they are not fit for the job.

sp3ctre 06-06-2006 21:21
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Is it just me or has the NTL network gone to pot in certain areas since they started the roll out? I'm in HG1 and it is very erratic at the moment

Mick 06-06-2006 21:23
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
It's not just you... see http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...=47630&page=14

sp3ctre 06-06-2006 21:27
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick
Ah, interesting!.. Thanks for that... I won't hijack this thread whinging about this though, that thread you quoted seems a better forum for that. Thanks fella

MindfreeZe 06-06-2006 21:37
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
There are a crap load of sites I can't access after the upgrade, google, msn, quicktime etc

Martyn 06-06-2006 21:41
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
ermm what does www.ntl.com give you people?

James Henry 06-06-2006 21:43
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtwn
Its got to do with your statement of saying the 100 and 120 are so cheap that they are not fit for the job.
I made no warranty or otherwise of their fitness for any purpose, I just said that they were built as cheaply as possible and that the Terayon and CMX are of a higher quality, as you'd expect considering the Terayon retailed at £170.

Your need to points score with me is getting a bit weird, you seem to feel the need to comment or try and correct me at every possible occasion, which is a bit freaky. If you really want to prove your leetness with cable get a job with a cable company or contractor and get paid for it.

Finding holes in what a relative beginner like me says about the stuff doesn't really impress.

Your_da 06-06-2006 22:14
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
And back on topic

4 meg here in belfast and and very HAPPY :)

JeLLyMaN 06-06-2006 22:15
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ_Price
Ive got a 120 modem & I was wondering if i could get hold of a 250 modem & connect it all up would it work ok & would i then receive the 4mb upgrade as Im in Cardiff. :erm:
I guess as long as your area has been updated then it would work. It's worth a try.

BrightonJohn 06-06-2006 22:16
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Yes - but what about my settop box question - or am I the only person here using one?

saxo_vtr_paul 06-06-2006 22:24
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrightonJohn
Yes - but what about my settop box question - or am I the only person here using one?
is your question 'will us set top box users have the speed increase too?'

I would like to know the answer to this too, if thats not what you asked can anyone answer the question anyway?

BrightonJohn 06-06-2006 22:27
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saxo_vtr_paul
is your question 'will us set top box users have the speed increase too?'

I would like to know the answer to this too, if thats not what you asked can anyone answer the question anyway?
Yes - that was it - and will we have to re-boot and what will happen to the PACE box users that couldn't even be up-graded to 2mb?

Mick 06-06-2006 22:58
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Pace STB users still on the 1Mb but paying £24.99, should of been sent a letter some time ago inviting them to arrange a STB swap out so they can surf at 2Mb.

Re: 2Mb STB users waiting to go to 4Mb, no information has been officially confirmed to us on this. But if it helps I will contact ntl tomorrow and seek some form of clarification on this matter. I will get back to you on this as and when I get a response back. :)

saxo_vtr_paul 06-06-2006 23:18
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick
Re: 2Mb STB users waiting to go to 4Mb, no information has been officially confirmed to us on this. But if it helps I will contact ntl tomorrow and seek some form of clarification on this matter. I will get back to you on this as and when I get a response back. :)
Cheers, could you possibly pm me incase I miss your post regarding the outcome of the convo with them?

Thanks

Chrysalis 06-06-2006 23:33
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
James Henry or anyone else in the know, do the 3 areas have any 27mbit ubrs or all 38meg?

spectra 06-06-2006 23:56
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
nevermend

johnnygal 07-06-2006 00:10
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick
Re: 2Mb STB users waiting to go to 4Mb, no information has been officially confirmed to us on this. But if it helps I will contact ntl tomorrow and seek some form of clarification on this matter. I will get back to you on this as and when I get a response back. :)
Appreciate that Mick, I would also like to know.

popper 07-06-2006 00:44
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Timeless Stew
It seems NTL downgraded us :dozey: (GU15)

Tue, 06 Jun 2006 17:19:58 GMT

1st 512K took 15485 ms = 33.1 KB/sec, approx 273 Kbps, 0.27 Mbps
2nd 512K took 6969 ms = 73.5 KB/sec, approx 606 Kbps, 0.59 Mbps
3rd 512K took 9250 ms = 55.4 KB/sec, approx 456 Kbps, 0.45 Mbps
4th 512K took 4640 ms = 110.3 KB/sec, approx 909 Kbps, 0.89 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 561 Kbps, 0.55 Mbps

Pathetic for 2Mbs service, no?
seems your being upgraded, as that first guys modem did exactly the same.


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