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Xaccers 02-05-2008 17:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newguy (Post 34543163)
Hi folks,

Just got a letter from the customer relations dept today (bank letter) saying they recieved my charges request letter. It said in the letter basically, once the legal proceedings between the banks and the OFT have finished, they will resolve my complaint. However, that it could take months. And if I'm not happy with the resoulition they give, that I can take the matter then to the courts or FOS.

I'm now left with 2 questions.

1) Is this a standard reply?

2) What do I do next - as in do I now send off the next letter saying that I shall be starting court proceedings against them? :dozey:

Standard letter, HSBC delayed the requests of myself and my housemate knowing that there was the OFT action going on.
My charges are from 4 years ago, so not much risk of them going beyond the 6 year mark.
If yours are close to the 6 year mark, I'd lodge it with the courts. It will be put on hold until the OFT stuff is sorted but it will be logged so the 6 years won't matter (or at least that's how I understand it because you took legal action before the 6 year deadline).

Saaf_laandon_mo 02-05-2008 17:33

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How do i request 6 years worth of statements? wont they charge me?

Xaccers 02-05-2008 17:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34543212)
How do i request 6 years worth of statements? wont they charge me?

The website linked near the begining of this thread covers everything.
Under the data protection act they can charge you no more than £10, you ask either for a list of charges or if that's unavailable, 6 years worth of statements.

Marge 02-05-2008 17:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34543212)
How do i request 6 years worth of statements? wont they charge me?

You can request copies and it will cost you a tenner :)

Have a look on the moneysavingexpert site, they have template letters etc on there for you to send and addresses for the different banks

lol beaten to it by Xaccers :)

TheDaddy 03-05-2008 09:27

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Quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/im...s/viewpost.gif
How do i request 6 years worth of statements? wont they charge me?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34543213)
The website linked near the begining of this thread covers everything.
Under the data protection act they can charge you no more than £10, you ask either for a list of charges or if that's unavailable, 6 years worth of statements.

Don't forget to add the tenner to your final bill ;)

newguy 05-05-2008 17:41

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Thanks for the feedback Xaccers. After reading the moneysavingexpert site, I've now decided to try 'asking for a speedy settlement' under the sample Letter template section there.

Basically, if you want a speedy settlement, one tactic is to offer the bank the option of settling for a lower amount if it pays out now. How much lower depends on you, so I'm now trying that and if no joy then it's a case of logging the case with the courts. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34543210)
Standard letter, HSBC delayed the requests of myself and my housemate knowing that there was the OFT action going on.
My charges are from 4 years ago, so not much risk of them going beyond the 6 year mark.
If yours are close to the 6 year mark, I'd lodge it with the courts. It will be put on hold until the OFT stuff is sorted but it will be logged so the 6 years won't matter (or at least that's how I understand it because you took legal action before the 6 year deadline).


Xaccers 06-05-2008 06:41

Re: Reclaim Your Bank And Card Charges
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by newguy (Post 34545135)
Thanks for the feedback Xaccers. After reading the moneysavingexpert site, I've now decided to try 'asking for a speedy settlement' under the sample Letter template section there.

Basically, if you want a speedy settlement, one tactic is to offer the bank the option of settling for a lower amount if it pays out now. How much lower depends on you, so I'm now trying that and if no joy then it's a case of logging the case with the courts. ;)

Housemate tried that, she owed them £500 overdraft, they owed her £700 fees, she suggested they called it quits, they offered her £300, she said no, they said "Oh look, we've delayed enough so there's no point you taking us to court thankyouOFT, now, how about that £500?"
Nice HSBC, not.

newguy 06-05-2008 23:01

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I can always try the courts after if it's a no joy, as it states that in the letter I'll be sending.

I suppose it's a case of trial and error so I'll let you know what happens. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34545475)
Housemate tried that, she owed them £500 overdraft, they owed her £700 fees, she suggested they called it quits, they offered her £300, she said no, they said "Oh look, we've delayed enough so there's no point you taking us to court thankyouOFT, now, how about that £500?"
Nice HSBC, not.


newguy 08-05-2008 21:00

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Hi Xaccers,

I've had a re think and you're right in what you say. I was about to print off the 'LETTER BEFORE ACTION' letter from the template I found at the consumer action site, but it states in it the following;

'You have failed to respond to my letter of the [XXXXXXX - date of preliminary letter] and its enclosed schedule'.

The thing is they did respond but it was not the response I was hoping for, as in the standard reply.

Is there another template for the 'LETTER BEFORE ACTION' letter or is that the only one? :confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34545475)
Housemate tried that, she owed them £500 overdraft, they owed her £700 fees, she suggested they called it quits, they offered her £300, she said no, they said "Oh look, we've delayed enough so there's no point you taking us to court thankyouOFT, now, how about that £500?"
Nice HSBC, not.


greencreeper 09-05-2008 03:38

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Alliance and Leicester - mate banks with them. He visits the branch in Leeds and asks how much money is in his account, and how much he would therefore have to put into the account to cover a standing over for his rent. They tell him and he puts the money in. Overnight they take £50 in charges, then take the standing order, then charge him £50 for insufficient funds and use of unauthorised overdraft :rolleyes:

He can't keep up - doesn't know where the hell he is. Charges left, right and centre. It's leaving him short of cash to pay other bills, such as the loan agreement on his car, so they charge him for late payments... Even the bank customer service advisors are struggling to understand the charges. He did manage to get a £50 refund - they put the money in his account, then took it out again. For charges :rofl: He read them the riot act - now has the money back again. It's pure exploitation of the most vulnerable :no: I'm helping him move everything to the local credit union - so he can tell Alliance and Leicester to stuff their account.

Graham M 09-05-2008 08:00

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Sorry GC but I don't see it, if there's not enough money in his account to cover bills surely that is his fault and noone else's?

Angua 09-05-2008 08:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeph (Post 34547890)
Sorry GC but I don't see it, if there's not enough money in his account to cover bills surely that is his fault and noone else's?

Not when he specifically went in to the bank and asked how much he would need to pay in to make sure everything got paid & no charges would then be incurred.

Until Banks add credits to an account before debits are taken off people who are living near their limit will get stung.

newguy 09-05-2008 20:53

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Hi Xaccers,

Just wondering if you got any feeback ref the below? :erm:
Quote:

Originally Posted by newguy (Post 34547538)
Hi Xaccers,

I've had a re think and you're right in what you say. I was about to print off the 'LETTER BEFORE ACTION' letter from the template I found at the consumer action site, but it states in it the following;

'You have failed to respond to my letter of the [XXXXXXX - date of preliminary letter] and its enclosed schedule'.

The thing is they did respond but it was not the response I was hoping for, as in the standard reply.

Is there another template for the 'LETTER BEFORE ACTION' letter or is that the only one? :confused:


Xaccers 09-05-2008 21:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newguy (Post 34548541)
Hi Xaccers,

Just wondering if you got any feeback ref the below? :erm:

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/rec...-charges#step2

The template letters (for claiming with interest/without interest) include ". As I have not heard from you/not received a satisfactory response [DELETE AS APPROPRIATE]"

:)

newguy 09-05-2008 21:35

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Must have mis read it 1st time around. :dozey:

Thanks Xaccers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34548574)
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/rec...-charges#step2

The template letters (for claiming with interest/without interest) include ". As I have not heard from you/not received a satisfactory response [DELETE AS APPROPRIATE]"

:)


TraxData 11-05-2008 00:26

Re: Reclaim Your Bank And Card Charges
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greencreeper (Post 34547868)
Alliance and Leicester - mate banks with them. He visits the branch in Leeds and asks how much money is in his account, and how much he would therefore have to put into the account to cover a standing over for his rent. They tell him and he puts the money in. Overnight they take £50 in charges, then take the standing order, then charge him £50 for insufficient funds and use of unauthorised overdraft :rolleyes:

He can't keep up - doesn't know where the hell he is. Charges left, right and centre. It's leaving him short of cash to pay other bills, such as the loan agreement on his car, so they charge him for late payments... Even the bank customer service advisors are struggling to understand the charges. He did manage to get a £50 refund - they put the money in his account, then took it out again. For charges :rofl: He read them the riot act - now has the money back again. It's pure exploitation of the most vulnerable :no: I'm helping him move everything to the local credit union - so he can tell Alliance and Leicester to stuff their account.

Same happened to me with those bunch of idiots, before i managed to get it sorted it reached well over 1k in overdraft charges (i went 9p over the limit btw and it was an automatic £35 overdraft fee..which doubled everyweek)

Told them to get stuffed, they closed my account and havent heard a peep from them since.

TheDaddy 11-05-2008 17:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34549305)
Same happened to me with those bunch of idiots, before i managed to get it sorted it reached well over 1k in overdraft charges (i went 9p over the limit btw and it was an automatic £35 overdraft fee..which doubled everyweek)

Told them to get stuffed, they closed my account and havent heard a peep from them since.

They shouldn't be charging people if they are under a quid overdrawn, we covered it in the thread earlier (post 635 onwards). If you ever hear from them again you should have a couple of awkward questions to ask them at least

Shaun 11-05-2008 21:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34549305)
Same happened to me with those bunch of idiots, before i managed to get it sorted it reached well over 1k in overdraft charges (i went 9p over the limit btw and it was an automatic £35 overdraft fee..which doubled everyweek)

Told them to get stuffed, they closed my account and havent heard a peep from them since.

Haven't heard anything is not as good as you think. Have you checked your credit file?

Xaccers 12-05-2008 00:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 34549940)
Haven't heard anything is not as good as you think. Have you checked your credit file?

That's a very good point.
Having gone bankrupt in 2006, and discharged a year later, I was suprised to find that I had a couple of accounts showing as active and defaulted since 2006 rather than satisfied.
Had to send off a copy of my certificate of discharge (sounds like something mr_love_monkey would have) and hopefully by the end of May they should all be sorted.
So best get checking.
Experian has the free month's trial, but they showed me as having a very good credit score and no details about bankruptcy, while Equifax charge just under £15 and that was full of information.

Shaun 12-05-2008 08:24

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Both are available for £2 from their websites with full information on too.

EVERYONE even if they think they are fine should check as I found a long list of issues with mine even though all my accounts are up to date. ;)

newguy 12-05-2008 17:30

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Handy info to know Shaun.....would you be kind enough to add their web address as I'd like to check this out. ;)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 34550121)
Both are available for £2 from their websites with full information on too.

EVERYONE even if they think they are fine should check as I found a long list of issues with mine even though all my accounts are up to date. ;)


TraxData 12-05-2008 23:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 34549940)
Haven't heard anything is not as good as you think. Have you checked your credit file?

To be honest with you i cant check, closed alliance and leicester account, moved over to barclays and just opened a basic bank account with cash card...that way i cant spend what i dont have and im less liable to fraud.

And all these sites want your credit card..

Shaun 13-05-2008 00:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34550663)
To be honest with you i cant check, closed alliance and leicester account, moved over to barclays and just opened a basic bank account with cash card...that way i cant spend what i dont have and im less liable to fraud.

And all these sites want your credit card..

You can order your credit file with a postal order if you don't want to give your details. But remember that you will possibly need credit in the future (or even a clean search for a job) - it's always worth checking.

---------- Post added at 00:05 ---------- Previous post was at 00:04 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by newguy (Post 34550390)
Handy info to know Shaun.....would you be kind enough to add their web address as I'd like to check this out. ;)

https://www.econsumer.equifax.co.uk/...erletter.ehtml

http://www.experian.co.uk/consumer/o...perReport.html

http://www.callcredit.co.uk/consumer/order-your-report

:)

AntiSilence 13-05-2008 00:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 34550121)
Both are available for £2 from their websites with full information on too.

EVERYONE even if they think they are fine should check as I found a long list of issues with mine even though all my accounts are up to date. ;)

I don't need to pay someone to tell me where my credit rating is! I flushed it down the toilet ages ago!

newguy 14-05-2008 20:00

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Thanks Shaun. ;)


https://www.econsumer.equifax.co.uk/...erletter.ehtml

http://www.experian.co.uk/consumer/o...perReport.html

http://www.callcredit.co.uk/consumer/order-your-report

:)[/QUOTE]

newguy 16-05-2008 20:37

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Hi folks,

Just send the 'LETTER BEFORE ACTION' off today registered. This is the next letter saying they (banks) have a further 2 weeks to give me my money back or it's off to court we go. Hopefully I didn't leave it too late but only time will tell. :dozey:

shawty 17-05-2008 13:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newguy (Post 34553845)
Hi folks,

Just send the 'LETTER BEFORE ACTION' off today registered. This is the next letter saying they (banks) have a further 2 weeks to give me my money back or it's off to court we go. Hopefully I didn't leave it too late but only time will tell. :dozey:

I thought you knew the charges have been put on hold until the court case finishes?

newguy 19-05-2008 22:48

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According to what I have been reading on the consumer action group website, they were saying to still get the cliams into court.

I have no idea as to why - but perhaps it will get actioned sooner that way, rather than doing so once the test case have finished?

That is me just guessing, perhpas someone on this tread can shed more light on the matter?:erm:

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawty (Post 34554219)
I thought you knew the charges have been put on hold until the court case finishes?


Xaccers 19-05-2008 23:08

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If you bring the case to court, it will be logged, meaning the dates involved with the claim will be recorded and so won't expire even if they subsiquently pass the 6 year deadline (or at least that's my understanding of it).
Once the legal issues have been sorted, then the cases on hold will be progressed in accordance.

Chrysalis 20-05-2008 10:26

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I would log it for 3 reasons.

1 - as Xaccers said it stops the 6 year rule losing you money.
2 - A court can at its discretion still process claims.
3 - If in apperent financial diffilculties the claim is supposedbly to be processed.

newguy 25-05-2008 12:56

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Hi folks,

Thanks for all the info given so far. I have one other question, which is, will I need to see a Solicitor if I do end up having to make a court claim against the banks, or can I go solo? :dozey:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 34556111)
I would log it for 3 reasons.

1 - as Xaccers said it stops the 6 year rule losing you money.
2 - A court can at its discretion still process claims.
3 - If in apperent financial diffilculties the claim is supposedbly to be processed.


Xaccers 26-05-2008 20:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newguy (Post 34559531)
Hi folks,

Thanks for all the info given so far. I have one other question, which is, will I need to see a Solicitor if I do end up having to make a court claim against the banks, or can I go solo? :dozey:

You can go solo

TraxData 28-05-2008 21:50

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Hmm, seems you guys was right...i tried applying for current accounts elsewhere and got declined on all due to my credit rating (which was great till alliance screwed me over) :(...going to write to the CEO now and try to get this sorted, its unfair on me!!!

newguy 31-05-2008 21:17

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Nice one. ;)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34560485)
You can go solo


popper 04-06-2008 02:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34561965)
Hmm, seems you guys was right...i tried applying for current accounts elsewhere and got declined on all due to my credit rating (which was great till alliance screwed me over) :(...going to write to the CEO now and try to get this sorted, its unfair on me!!!

TD, as iv said here and elswere many times, people should really read SurleyBonds http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...d-removal.html
and his other threads there, it really opens your eyes as to the tricks these companys use, and what your rights and actions are to get it put right, click it and READ IT.

once you understand that process and have sorted that out, theres not good reason not to also use the exact same options to put right all the other things companys or rather their personel try to pull, the ISPs could do with some action taken against them to put their antics right, do nothing and you help their cashflow, do something and you help your's. :angel:

newguy 08-06-2008 16:27

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Hi Xaccers & co,

Got the reply back yesterday in ref to letter before action I sent 2 weeks ago. That was the letter stating go give me my money back or else it's court time. Perhaps it's the standard reply I got saying they have asked FSA to suspend the normal timetable etc etc.

So I'm assuming my next step is to file the claim at court? :confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34560485)
You can go solo


TraxData 11-06-2008 19:19

Re: Reclaim Your Bank And Card Charges
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by popper (Post 34567120)
TD, as iv said here and elswere many times, people should really read SurleyBonds http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...d-removal.html
and his other threads there, it really opens your eyes as to the tricks these companys use, and what your rights and actions are to get it put right, click it and READ IT.

once you understand that process and have sorted that out, theres not good reason not to also use the exact same options to put right all the other things companys or rather their personel try to pull, the ISPs could do with some action taken against them to put their antics right, do nothing and you help their cashflow, do something and you help your's. :angel:

Thankyou, taking a look right now, as i expected my email (and phonecall) to the CEO of alliance and leicester was ignored, what a suprise there.

Guess i'll look for help through here, also off to see my solicitor next week considering they have stolen over 1k from me :rolleyes:

Osem 26-02-2009 10:25

Unfair bank charges ruling....
 
The latest court case to determine the fairness of bank charges has upheld the original legal decision on the OFT's determination and agreed that such charges are indeed unfair.

Link to follow:

Derek 26-02-2009 10:39

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Well the banks have lost the latest round in their fight to hold on to your money.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7910852.stm

Expect the next stage to be them moaning that it isn't fair for them to repay the money now as it'll be the taxpayer losing out. :mad:

Mr Angry 05-10-2009 19:32

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Time to revisit this thread.

Things are starting to heat up for the banks Thorius v's MBNA PPI claim - consumer win.

Banks asked by FSA to outline their plans to repay customers.

Previously rejected PPI claims to come under the spotlight again.

martyh 05-10-2009 19:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 34884380)
Time to revisit this thread.

Things are starting to heat up for the banks Thorius v's MBNA PPI claim - consumer win.

Banks asked by FSA to outline their plans to repay customers.

Previously rejected PPI claims to come under the spotlight again.

i was wondering what had happened to this court case ,maybe this is why the RBS group (which i'm with)have just reduced their bank charges from 1st oct
http://www.which.co.uk/news/2009/09/...ges-184120.jsp

Mr Angry 05-10-2009 22:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34884396)
i was wondering what had happened to this court case ,maybe this is why the RBS group (which i'm with)have just reduced their bank charges from 1st oct
http://www.which.co.uk/news/2009/09/...ges-184120.jsp

Marty,

These RBS reductions have, I believe, come about as a direct result of Government intervention in an attempt to get the rest of the banks to "wake up and smell the coffee" over the charges debacle.

superbiatch 06-10-2009 18:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 34884497)
Marty,

These RBS reductions have, I believe, come about as a direct result of Government intervention in an attempt to get the rest of the banks to "wake up and smell the coffee" over the charges debacle.

Lets hope Halifax listen up to this, currently i pay £35 for every purchase/debit which takes me over my overdraft. I thought they were part of RBS but just realised in the Bank of Scotland duh :doh:

Will21st 07-10-2009 16:44

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About 4 months ago I got £2000 back from Barclays on a hardship claim.I can only remmend going down that route.I put on a right old song and dance about holes in my shoes :D

have to say though,they coughed up.Still owe me a grand though!! :mad:

superbiatch 11-10-2009 12:18

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I had a not so interesting conversation with the Halifax a few days back when I got into a bit of financial trouble (the company I work for has gone into administration and I've not been paid). So I asked for help in maybe extending my overdraft which they were unwilling to do. They then went on to tell me form December I will be charge £1 per day for having an overdraft and this is something all banks will be implementing, so in effect I'll probably end up with an extra £31 per month being paid to them as my overdraft is more than my wages. Their solution was to offer me a loan - no chance!

Has anyone else heard of these charges?

bjorkiii 11-10-2009 12:42

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Oh goodness me i hope thats not the truth otherwise its time to calmeth , but a nice cheque to wipe all my discrepancies would soften the blow for a short while . Still seems a bit steep though :erm: how does it all work it seems odd to me what do they do with the persons money surely there not just keeping it all in a box they must be using it :erm: time for another sherry methinks :D

superbiatch 11-10-2009 13:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bjorkiii (Post 34888288)
Oh goodness me i hope thats not the truth otherwise its time to calmeth , but a nice cheque to wipe all my discrepancies would soften the blow for a short while . Still seems a bit steep though :erm: how does it all work it seems odd to me what do they do with the persons money surely there not just keeping it all in a box they must be using it :erm: time for another sherry methinks :D

So it seems its just a Halifax thing http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/city-ne...5875-21699500/


I think its time to look for a new bank account pronto.

yesman 24-11-2009 08:36

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Quote:

Eight million more bank customers could try to reclaim overdraft charges, according to Which?, the lobby group.
New figures from the group show that, of around 12m people who have been hit with bank charges since July 2001, over three in five (63pc) have not asked for their money back.
With the Supreme Court's ruling on the test case due on November 25, the banks could face a deluge of new complaints should the Office of Fair Trading (OFT) win. This is in addition to the estimated 1m or more claims that are currently on hold.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/p...oney-back.html

Kymmy 25-11-2009 09:52

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And the banks win

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8376906.stm

Chris 25-11-2009 09:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34915317)

Or not:

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBC
But Lord Philips added that this was not the end of the matter as the OFT could still try to scrutinise bank charges under other parts of the regulations.
"This will not close the door on the OFT's investigations and may well not resolve the myriad cases that are currently stayed [put on hold] in which customers have challenged the relevant charges," he told the court.


The OFT is absolutely determined to get the banks for this.

Osem 25-11-2009 10:00

Banks WIN charges case!!!
 
Yes it's true! I know I'm being cynical but I wonder if HMG's ownership of many of the biggest has anything to do with this. They'll be wanting our money back as soon as possible after all...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8376906.stm

martyh 25-11-2009 10:32

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was it ever going to go any other way? and yes Osem i think HMG had a lot to do with it .Maybe a couple of years ago we would have had a different result but now ...never ,having said that i think Chris is right the OFT will get them eventually .
What about those who got the charges back will they have to repay or have they been lucky ?

Russ 25-11-2009 10:36

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On the upside it means an end to these unsolicited phone calls I used to get from companies offering to reclaim my charges. Guess they'll go back to asking if I've had any accidents or injuries in the last 3 years.

Ravenheart 25-11-2009 12:50

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34915344)
was it ever going to go any other way? and yes Osem i think HMG had a lot to do with it .Maybe a couple of years ago we would have had a different result but now ...never ,having said that i think Chris is right the OFT will get them eventually .
What about those who got the charges back will they have to repay or have they been lucky ?

I don't think they can get them back from those they've already paid out

Martin Lewis has posted

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"Those consumers who already got money back needn't worry – the money already given back was technically a 'goodwill gesture' and therefore the banks cannot ask for it back.
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/new...nks-win-appeal

I do think today's decision is political, but people have no faith in the banking system as it is, and this will do nothing to improve things.

Mick Fisher 25-11-2009 16:21

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Just to proliferate the "Treasure Island", "Rip-Off Britain" status, Supreme Court decrees that Banks can charge the Hoy Paloy anything they like.

Were we fools to expect any other decision? I think we were going on past experiences. :(

Hugh 25-11-2009 16:36

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Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 34915535)
Just to proliferate the "Treasure Island", "Rip-Off Britain" status, Supreme Court decrees that Banks can charge the Hoy Paloy anything they like.

Were we fools to expect any other decision? I think we were going on past experiences. :(

But no.

From the OP link
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In explaining his ruling, the Supreme Court's president Lord Phillips said that bank customers agreed to pay overdraft charges as part of the price of having a current account, so they fell outside the scope of the 1999 consumer contract regulations.
But Lord Phillips added that this was not the end of the matter as the OFT could still try to scrutinise bank charges under other parts of the regulations.
"This will not close the door on the OFT's investigations and may well not resolve the myriad cases that are currently stayed [put on hold] in which customers have challenged the relevant charges," he told the court.

BenMcr 25-11-2009 16:41

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34915345)
On the upside it means an end to these unsolicited phone calls I used to get from companies offering to reclaim my charges. Guess they'll go back to asking if I've had any accidents or injuries in the last 3 years.

They've still got the Payment protection claims

Sirius 25-11-2009 17:05

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34915543)
They've still got the Payment protection claims

Indeed i have 2 different sets of solicitors after me because i have one they can help me claim on and boy do i know it :)

joglynne 25-11-2009 17:19

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Martin Lewis has posted some more information which I think anyone who is hoping for a refund should read.

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/new...for-reclaimers.

Drawing attention to the Judge's final statement ML says:-

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"It wasn’t a loss, the OFT fought on the wrong clause. The initial shock reaction by the crowd in the court, thinking that the banks had won, obscured what was perhaps the most important part of the Judge’s final statement, that ‘the OFT may be able to look at fairness by another route’.

"The fact that this was deemed important enough to be said in his very short verbal statement is of great significance. After analysis of the report it reveals the court’s coded message to the OFT was ‘you took this case on too narrow a legal basis – you would have a much better chance with clause 5 not clause 6’.

Maggy 25-11-2009 22:33

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Banks always win..I never thought there was a snowball's chance in hell that the consumer would win in this or any other case against the banks.:rolleyes:

Mick Fisher 26-11-2009 03:30

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One way or another The Banks now control just about all our money and so can and are effectively calling the shots.

Just another result of a weak PM and a weak Government that shyed away from financial regulation when it would have made a difference.

Will21st 30-11-2009 22:43

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please go to penaltycharges.co.uk for further instructions regarding the test case.People,this ain't over yet.Anyone who has a court case pending needs to act NOW!!!

arcamalpha2004 13-12-2009 08:44

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34915741)
Banks always win..I never thought there was a snowball's chance in hell that the consumer would win in this or any other case against the banks.:rolleyes:

I read what you say Mags, but if people roll their sleeves up, and they have credit card/loan agreements pre 2007 and the companies cannot supply the copy of the original cca agreement the companies are stuffed, all they can do is huff and puff about wanting their money back, if same companies are daft enough to follow through to court, without providing the customer with required papers it is all downhill for the companies involved.
So Banks do not always win ;)

TheDaddy 21-12-2009 16:34

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OFT drops further cases

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Bus...Overdraft_Fees

martyh 21-12-2009 16:43

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since the gov owns the controlling shares of alot of the banks now especially the biggest offender RBS can't they do something ,i notice RBS's charges hav'nt gone down

Russ 21-12-2009 17:00

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Bet there'll be champagne corks popping all across London this evening.

martyh 21-12-2009 17:10

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34931070)
Bet there'll be champagne corks popping all across London this evening.


yep ..and a rise in bank charges :mad:

Mr Angry 19-02-2010 15:24

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Interesting development.

Maggy 19-02-2010 22:19

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Oh yes very interesting..Thanks for that.:)

moaningmags 19-02-2010 22:22

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I'll be amazed if the banks can say their charges were/are fair.

Mr Angry 20-02-2010 00:05

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Originally Posted by moaningmags (Post 34966587)
I'll be amazed if the banks can say their charges were/are fair.

You and I both.

Bulky 16-03-2012 07:01

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If anyone believes they have been mis sold payment protection insurance whatever you do don't use a claims company , i sent ONE letter to RBS for mis sold ppi and recieved over £10000 back , had i used a claims company they would have charged me around £3000 , i think thats a bit excessive for the price of a stamp :shocked: :)

mertle 16-03-2012 10:17

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Originally Posted by Bulky (Post 35400539)
If anyone believes they have been mis sold payment protection insurance whatever you do don't use a claims company , i sent ONE letter to RBS for mis sold ppi and recieved over £10000 back , had i used a claims company they would have charged me around £3000 , i think thats a bit excessive for the price of a stamp :shocked: :)

good for you these claims companies absolute pests wish there was more regulations to stop pestering.

I have had these prats ring my house daily.

I doubt I been miss sold a PPI as all my loans for the car was not PPI... They told m I did not need one.

So why these idiots think I had PPI unless there what you call cold calling on the assumption my loan was PPI.

I know few years back got ripped off by the bank in wrong account got charged for breathing. Sadly my naivety I accepted there appology should gone to bank omnubudsman to reclaim 4 years charges which amounted nearly £100 a month. Thats over 10 years back wont get that reclaimed now.

Chrysalis 16-03-2012 12:33

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claims companies spam markets where its easy to win.

Funny how they dont exist for complex and hard types of legal cases.

Would I be able to claim on PPI from over 10 years ago and a PPI that even paid out for me?

Bulky 17-03-2012 10:04

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35400721)
claims companies spam markets where its easy to win.

Funny how they dont exist for complex and hard types of legal cases.

Would I be able to claim on PPI from over 10 years ago and a PPI that even paid out for me?

More difficult but still possible , what is your reason for mis sell ?

Gary L 17-03-2012 12:24

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Wasn't it in the news not long ago that banks would be contacting millions of customers telling them that they can claim back PPI with info on what to do?

Stephen 17-03-2012 14:56

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Well my bank, lloydstsb have a page on their site to contact them about ppi.

I phoned them yesterday after I decided why not. I have a credit card with them and have done for 7 years and the card came with ppi on it and I didn't think anything of it back then but cancelled it a couple of yrs ago.

Bulky 17-03-2012 15:24

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35401364)
Well my bank, lloydstsb have a page on their site to contact them about ppi.

I phoned them yesterday after I decided why not. I have a credit card with them and have done for 7 years and the card came with ppi on it and I didn't think anything of it back then but cancelled it a couple of yrs ago.

Good luck , if you not sure about anything post in here ,the amount of reading on this subject before i put in my complaint was VAST , feel like i could set my own claims company up ;)

---------- Post added at 15:24 ---------- Previous post was at 15:21 ----------

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35401269)
Wasn't it in the news not long ago that banks would be contacting millions of customers telling them that they can claim back PPI with info on what to do?

It was , but they will not contact everyone!! If anyone has ppi and thinks they have been mis sold look here http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/rec...loan-insurance


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