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jfman 09-12-2021 07:55

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36104877)
That explains a lot about you, jfman

:confused:

I don’t think reading an article (any article) and thinking who funds it? what’s the angle? what’s the alternative thoughts on this subject? Are the particularly objectionable thought processes you portray them as.

Yes almost all media has bias to some degree, conscious and unconscious. It doesn’t give them all equal weight, standing or reputation.

Legendkiller2k 09-12-2021 11:33

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36104783)
Is DAZN moving away from Streaming services into the TV world?

Look like DAZN is set to launch an UK Pay TV Channel called DAZN PPV

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/manage-your...cences/updates

No they are just giving a extra option.

1andrew1 09-12-2021 11:47

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36104785)
They obviously know nobody is going to pay £29.99 for a dodgy stream of a Joshua fight.

They also know that an all-you-can-eat business model might work for some sports but it doesn't work for boxing.

Media Boy UK 09-12-2021 14:03

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36104904)
No they are just giving a extra option.

Will it be on Virgin Media?

Legendkiller2k 09-12-2021 15:29

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36104929)
Will it be on Virgin Media?

They're in talks.

Raider999 09-12-2021 21:16

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36104941)
They're in talks.


That'll be a no then - or at least not for a few years;)

jfman 09-12-2021 22:06

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36104992)
That'll be a no then - or at least not for a few years;)

Nah they’ll be desperate. Usually the folk that Virgin get into disputes with at least have some leverage over them. DAZN have nothing.

Legendkiller2k 10-12-2021 12:30

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36104992)
That'll be a no then - or at least not for a few years;)

Honestly mate i have no idea all i got was "in talks" lol.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36104996)
Nah they’ll be desperate. Usually the folk that Virgin get into disputes with at least have some leverage over them. DAZN have nothing.

Probably plus DAZN and Liberty Global are on very good terms too probably only company Liberty haven't annoyed yet lol.

Media Boy UK 11-12-2021 12:28

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Been told in the last few days by two Media Boy Sources that an well know Streaming service was set to launch on Virgin Media in November but for some reason Virgin Media did not flicked the switch.

This story is link to my story on August 4th 2021.

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...-talks-to.html

Media Boy UK 11-12-2021 18:18

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36105224)
Been told in the last few days by two Media Boy Sources that an well know Streaming service was set to launch on Virgin Media in November but for some reason Virgin Media did not flicked the switch.

This story is link to my story on August 4th 2021.

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...-talks-to.html

Update: I know the name of that "well known streaming service" that did not appear on Virgin Media last month. But my sources did not say if I am allow to name it on here.

Chris 11-12-2021 18:25

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Please get off your power trip …. either post stuff or don’t, but spare us the secret knowledge routine.

Media Boy UK 11-12-2021 18:38

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36105254)
Please get off your power trip …. either post stuff or don’t, but spare us the secret knowledge routine.

I am NOT on an power trip - unlike a scottish first minister.

I was really telling why I did not name it early today.

RichardCoulter 11-12-2021 19:25

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Britbox first month free and then 12 months half price offer:

https://watch.britbox.co.uk/freetrial

ScottishSteve 12-12-2021 10:29

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36105255)
I am NOT on an power trip - unlike a scottish first minister.

WOW that escalated quickly

Al phone Nic at Holyrood HQ and ask if she knows if it’s Disney+ or not.

As Chris said, can it with the I know a secret but I’m not telling you anything nonsense it gets repetitive MB.

Itshim 12-12-2021 11:42

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Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36105303)
WOW that escalated quickly

Al phone Nic at Holyrood HQ and ask if she knows if it’s Disney+ or not.

As Chris said, can it with the I know a secret but I’m not telling you anything nonsense it gets repetitive MB.

So agree having to plough looking for a nugget in a pile of waffle , bull * and guess work .

Legendkiller2k 12-12-2021 12:45

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36105260)
Britbox first month free and then 12 months half price offer:

https://watch.britbox.co.uk/freetrial

Still not worth it imo lol.
But thankyou for the heads up.

Media Boy UK 12-12-2021 15:35

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Virgin Media did not launch Discovery+ last month.

I can now reveal that Discovery + was set to launch on Virgin Media in November.

No news on when it will launch.

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Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36105303)
WOW that escalated quickly

Al phone Nic at Holyrood HQ and ask if she knows if it’s Disney+ or not.

As Chris said, can it with the I know a secret but I’m not telling you anything nonsense it gets repetitive MB.

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36105311)
So agree having to plough looking for a nugget in a pile of waffle , bull * and guess work .

I was given the news on Discovery was in talks with Virgin Media over the launch of Discovery+ on August 4th was I hold back on naming it at the time as talks was online.

I did not know until December 11th that Discovery+ was set to launch on Virgin Media (V6 and TV360 boxes) in November. But I was ban from naming it due to my sources not give me a OK it post the name. My sources give me OK today.

Since November 12th (That fake story I posted on Cable Forum about Disney +) I have started ask any sources (when two has given me the same info) to OK naming any channel / streaming service before I post.

Raider999 12-12-2021 18:39

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36105260)
Britbox first month free and then 12 months half price offer:

https://watch.britbox.co.uk/freetrial

I wouldn't pay to watch repeats of programmes that were free when first shown.

The concept of Britbox is seriously flawed IMO

Mad Max 12-12-2021 18:42

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36105375)
I wouldn't pay to watch repeats of programmes that were free when first shown.

The concept of Britbox is seriously flawed IMO

You ain't wrong.

Itshim 12-12-2021 19:00

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36105346)
Virgin Media did not launch Discovery+ last month.

I can now reveal that Discovery + was set to launch on Virgin Media in November.

No news on when it will launch.

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I was given the news on Discovery was in talks with Virgin Media over the launch of Discovery+ on August 4th was I hold back on naming it at the time as talks was online.

I did not know until December 11th that Discovery+ was set to launch on Virgin Media (V6 and TV360 boxes) in November. But I was ban from naming it due to my sources not give me a OK it post the name. My sources give me OK today.

Since November 12th (That fake story I posted on Cable Forum about Disney +) I have started ask any sources (when two has given me the same info) to OK naming any channel / streaming service before I post.

Some one ( or even more than one) really enjoys making you look silly . :confused:

ScottishSteve 12-12-2021 19:20

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Discovery+ has in the last few days had a major overhaul of their app so quite possibly any delay was due to the implementation of the new improved service.

vincerooney 13-12-2021 01:26

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36105375)
I wouldn't pay to watch repeats of programmes that were free when first shown.

The concept of Britbox is seriously flawed IMO

i dont get this argument? britbox has ITV and channel 4 footage?

The licence fee pays for BBC shows to get made and be put to air on the BBC televsion channels. The BBCs arrangement with content makers usually allows them to have a show also on iPlayer for 30 days after it airs terrestrially. After that, the BBC makes other income selling shows to other parties ie Netflix or DVD box sets. BritBox is kinda positioning to be a streaming replacement for DVD box sets of ITV and BBC content. Did you used to go into HMV and say 'my license fee paid for Dr Who im going to walk put with the DVD thanks'

Legendkiller2k 13-12-2021 02:31

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36105422)
i dont get this argument? britbox has ITV and channel 4 footage?

The licence fee pays for BBC shows to get made and be put to air on the BBC televsion channels. The BBCs arrangement with content makers usually allows them to have a show also on iPlayer for 30 days after it airs terrestrially. After that, the BBC makes other income selling shows to other parties ie Netflix or DVD box sets. BritBox is kinda positioning to be a streaming replacement for DVD box sets of ITV and BBC content. Did you used to go into HMV and say 'my license fee paid for Dr Who im going to walk put with the DVD thanks'

But you're paying twice for BBC content aka tv licence and Britbox.
If say Britbox had new episodes of say Eastenders, Casualty, Doctor who etc the day after airing then it would certainly be value for money as it'd eliminate the need for a tv licence for people wanting to watch some bbc shows on demand.
Difference between buying a dvd and streaming is you own that dvd with streaming the programme could get removed at anytime sometimes without warning.

BenMcr 13-12-2021 07:34

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Don't you pay twice for some BBC content whenever it's shown on non BBC channels or iPlayer though?

No one has objected to Gold and the other channels over the last few decades.

Jaymoss 13-12-2021 08:52

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36105428)
Don't you pay twice for some BBC content whenever it's shown on non BBC channels or iPlayer though?

No one has objected to Gold and the other channels over the last few decades.

I object to Gold and think is should be part of Free to Air due the ads on it and the TV licence thing. Although they do make some new content it should be FTA

denphone 13-12-2021 12:52

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Premier Sports launches on Amazon Prime.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2021...eid=3598503789


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Premier Sports, which holds the rights to the Scottish Cup, United Rugby Championship and LaLigaTV, has signed a new distribution agreement with Amazon Prime.

It means Premier Sports 1, Premier Sports 2, LaLigaTV, BoxNation and FreeSports will now be available to Amazon Prime Members for an additional £14.99 per month.

Legendkiller2k 13-12-2021 13:52

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36105428)
Don't you pay twice for some BBC content whenever it's shown on non BBC channels or iPlayer though?

No one has objected to Gold and the other channels over the last few decades.

BBC could play a belter though with Britbox as you don't need a tv license for it make shows such as Eastenders, Doctor who etc available on Britbox the day after they air.
ITV could do the same too with their shows for me that would certainly make Britbox value for money, as it currently stands it is poor value for money especially given the content is on other channels too.
I do object to GOLD btw it should be FTA.

Raider999 13-12-2021 19:40

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36105422)
i dont get this argument? britbox has ITV and channel 4 footage?

The licence fee pays for BBC shows to get made and be put to air on the BBC televsion channels. The BBCs arrangement with content makers usually allows them to have a show also on iPlayer for 30 days after it airs terrestrially. After that, the BBC makes other income selling shows to other parties ie Netflix or DVD box sets. BritBox is kinda positioning to be a streaming replacement for DVD box sets of ITV and BBC content. Did you used to go into HMV and say 'my license fee paid for Dr Who im going to walk put with the DVD thanks'

No I didn't - since we were liberated from the prison of 4 channels - there is no need to watch the same things over and over (eg Zulu every Christmas for 20 years??)

It doesn't matter how you look at it Britbox is charging you to watch repeats of programs that were free first time around - what a bargain

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36105471)
Premier Sports launches on Amazon Prime.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2021...eid=3598503789

Is it that high a monthly fee on Virgin/Sky now?

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36105428)
Don't you pay twice for some BBC content whenever it's shown on non BBC channels or iPlayer though?

No one has objected to Gold and the other channels over the last few decades.


Does anyone watch them though - I certainly don't.

Mad Max 13-12-2021 20:08

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Premier sports plus Box Nation is £12.99 on Virgin.

Raider999 13-12-2021 22:39

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36105541)
Premier sports plus Box Nation is £12.99 on Virgin.

Same price as on Sky.

I thought my memory hadn't failed me - I suppose it is a possibility for anyone who has prime but not sky or virgin

Legendkiller2k 14-12-2021 00:15

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36105541)
Premier sports plus Box Nation is £12.99 on Virgin.

£12.99 Online too, the extra £2 prime charge is typical scamazon ripping people off.

vincerooney 14-12-2021 01:20

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36105428)
Don't you pay twice for some BBC content whenever it's shown on non BBC channels or iPlayer though?

No one has objected to Gold and the other channels over the last few decades.

Aye no one objected to that before only because the dailymail didnt hate the BBC as much back then. They hate it a lot right now hence why the anti bbc message is so strong currently and people are mentioning their hatred a lot more....

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36105471)
Premier Sports launches on Amazon Prime.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2021...eid=3598503789

its only 10 quid on virgin media isnt it?

i've got a firestick so i'd be intrigued by what else gets "built into" prime but i'd expect to be saving money not spending more than virgin!

Chris 14-12-2021 12:43

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36105570)
Aye no one objected to that before only because the dailymail didnt hate the BBC as much back then. They hate it a lot right now hence why the anti bbc message is so strong currently and people are mentioning their hatred a lot more....

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its only 10 quid on virgin media isnt it?

i've got a firestick so i'd be intrigued by what else gets "built into" prime but i'd expect to be saving money not spending more than virgin!

I know it’s a well-worn argument (and thoroughly entrenched on both sides) but you don’t pay a subscription to the BBC. You pay for a licence to receive TV broadcasts. As it happens, almost all of the money raised from that goes to fund the BBC. It sounds like a cop-out of an argument, but the legal distinction is important.

Besides, even if it was a subscription, you still wouldn’t acquire any ownership or right to future viewing of the content, any more than you do when Sky makes a programme. If that show later turns up on a channel outside of your subscription package, you don’t get to see the repeat showing.

Richardr 14-12-2021 14:14

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36105480)
BBC could play a belter though with Britbox as you don't need a tv license for it make shows such as Eastenders, Doctor who etc available on Britbox the day after they air.

Explain how it would be a belter for the BBC to give up £159 per year in income to replace it with Britbox which can be obtained for £29.99 a year, and for which they only get a share, as does ITV, C4, and C5, and includes 20% VAT.

Legendkiller2k 14-12-2021 14:28

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Originally Posted by Richardr (Post 36105614)
Explain how it would be a belter for the BBC to give up £159 per year in income to replace it with Britbox which can be obtained for £29.99 a year, and for which they only get a share, as does ITV, C4, and C5, and includes 20% VAT.

Did i say it'd replace the licence?
You'd still need one if you was to watch live tv, it is more as a option for those who want on demand only there'd be no live streams on it.

1andrew1 14-12-2021 14:49

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36105615)
Did i say it'd replace the licence?
You'd still need one if you was to watch live tv, it is more as a option for those who want on demand only there'd be no live streams on it.

I imagine most people would see it a backdoor increase in the licence fee and I don't think it would be allowed by the government in terms of the BBC Charter.

TimeLord2018 14-12-2021 15:27

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Apple TV+ is now on Sky Glass and Sky Q
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Apple TV+ has officially arrived on the Sky Glass TV and Sky Q boxes. It joins a host of other streaming apps on Sky – including the big three: Netflix, Disney+ and Amazon Prime Video.

From today (14th December), Sky Glass and Sky Q customers can gorge themselves on Emmy-winning Apple Originals such as Ted Lasso. Simply head to 'Apps' in the main Sky menu, or use the direct link on the homepage, to get started.

In the future, Sky plans to fold Apple TV+ content into its voice search functionality – users will be able to search for their favourite shows by hitting the voice button on the Sky remote, or via Sky Glass' frame-integrated microphone.
https://www.whathifi.com/news/apple-...lass-and-sky-q

Mad Max 28-12-2021 20:28

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Just watching the Leicester V Liverpool game on prime, PQ is very good, but as the game is streamed it's a good 45 seconds to a minute behind real-time.

jfman 28-12-2021 20:54

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36107290)
Just watching the Leicester V Liverpool game on prime, PQ is very good, but as the game is streamed it's a good 45 seconds to a minute behind real-time.

1 min 20 seconds here.

It has to be said the Covid outbreaks are playing into Amazon’s hands somewhat. They picked up their bargain basement rights on the basis that even split over a limited number of days there would be a limited number of individual match slots.

Now they get to kick a three games down the road and could show them alone in revised match slots.

I think BT have carried a few games forward on the same basis for later in the season from their midweek round.

Mad Max 28-12-2021 21:09

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They've lost some business from the pubs though mate, a good friend of mine owns a pub where I live, and he told me that Amazon were wanting £600 from him to stream the games in his pub, you can imagine where he told them to stick it. :D

jfman 28-12-2021 21:14

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That’s a lot of Tennents for midweek fixtures.

Legendkiller2k 28-12-2021 23:20

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36107290)
Just watching the Leicester V Liverpool game on prime, PQ is very good, but as the game is streamed it's a good 45 seconds to a minute behind real-time.

15 seconds via NBCsports and that's with a vpn so it's Amazon or VM that's likely the issue for delays as long as a minute.

ozsat 01-01-2022 08:33

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Over in the US - NBC Sports Channel has now closed with the major stuff being moved to USA Network and the main NBC network, with the rest now on the US Peacock streaming service.

Raider999 01-01-2022 09:35

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Another year nearer the end of Linear TV;);):)

SnoopZ 01-01-2022 10:32

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36107674)
Another year nearer the end of Linear TV;);):)

I've watched linear TV a grand total of TWICE in the last 2 years, I wouldn't miss it.

Hugh 01-01-2022 11:48

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36107674)
Another year nearer the end of Linear TV;);):)

Only 13 years to go!

Raider999 01-01-2022 14:11

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36107677)
I've watched linear TV a grand total of TWICE in the last 2 years, I wouldn't miss it.

But presumably you subscribe to linear to through Virgin?

jfman 01-01-2022 16:12

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36107678)
Only 13 years to go!

As long as there isn’t another revision :D

SnoopZ 01-01-2022 16:42

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36107682)
But presumably you subscribe to linear to through Virgin?

I really need to cancel it or reduce to the minimum.

All I use is Amazon Prime, Netflix and CinemaHDv2 and sometimes Kodi if CinemaHD is playing up to easily watch everything I want through a Firestick 4K, I generally don't watch sport other than sourcing a F1 stream.

Raider999 01-01-2022 19:21

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36107691)
I really need to cancel it or reduce to the minimum.

All I use is Amazon Prime, Netflix and CinemaHDv2 and sometimes Kodi if CinemaHD is playing up to easily watch everything I want through a Firestick 4K, I generally don't watch sport other than sourcing a F1 stream.


As you said you do not watch sport

OLD BOY 01-01-2022 20:29

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36107698)
As you said you do not watch sport

You’ve hit the nail on the head, Raider. It is the sports viewer who has been adversely affected by the move to streaming. There’s a lot more yet to be done to make this the feasible alternative that they want it to be.

Legendkiller2k 01-01-2022 21:47

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36107705)
You’ve hit the nail on the head, Raider. It is the sports viewer who has been adversely affected by the move to streaming. There’s a lot more yet to be done to make this the feasible alternative that they want it to be.

Hmm well last night iplayer was over a minute behind terrestial on the New years fireworks, i tested by watching it on both.
Streaming will get there in time but atm it isn't there.

Paul 01-01-2022 22:28

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BBC One itself (on my Sky Box) was a good 4 or 5 seconds slow.

Chris 01-01-2022 23:20

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The digital delay on my Freesat box was 7 seconds last night (measured against my iPad at the stroke of midnight). Still considerably better than the 90 seconds or thereabouts that we were experiencing on the iPlayer earlier in the evening. Actually although we started watching BBC1 on the iPlayer because the STB was powered down, we switched over precisely because I knew that the BBC’s countdown to the bells would be pointless if viewed via streaming.

jfman 01-01-2022 23:34

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36107705)
You’ve hit the nail on the head, Raider. It is the sports viewer who has been adversely affected by the move to streaming. There’s a lot more yet to be done to make this the feasible alternative that they want it to be.

The streamer I assume, and not the end user?

cheekyangus 01-01-2022 23:55

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36107711)
Hmm well last night iplayer was over a minute behind terrestial on the New years fireworks, i tested by watching it on both.
Streaming will get there in time but atm it isn't there.

Digital Terrestrial Standard Definition is often behind VM HD here. Whatever is is being done to encode/decode to provide VM is very fast these days. It used to be that VM HD was significantly behind DTT SD here.

Legendkiller2k 02-01-2022 00:54

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36107720)
Digital Terrestrial Standard Definition is often behind VM HD here. Whatever is is being done to encode/decode to provide VM is very fast these days. It used to be that VM HD was significantly behind DTT SD here.

VM are strange here they're in the houses either side of this block of flats but not in the block lol, they got permission and everything too but for some reason decided not to bother.
The block itself is low rise too with just 5 flats in.

Raider999 02-01-2022 14:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36107705)
You’ve hit the nail on the head, Raider. It is the sports viewer who has been adversely affected by the move to streaming. There’s a lot more yet to be done to make this the feasible alternative that they want it to be.

OB - do I sense a shift on the end date for linear TV:)

1andrew1 02-01-2022 15:11

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36107754)
OB - do I sense a shift on the end date for linear TV:)

Still on target for 2045. :D

OLD BOY 02-01-2022 16:10

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36107754)
OB - do I sense a shift on the end date for linear TV:)

No, I’ve been clear throughout that I am talking about the future, not the present. I have no reason to doubt that latency issues will be resolved, but there’s plenty of water to flow under the bridge first.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36107760)
Still on target for 2045. :D

:nono:

2035.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36107718)
The streamer I assume, and not the end user?

Correct.

jfman 03-01-2022 13:41

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The UK has hit peak Netflix.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...scriber-growth

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In Netflix’s earlier years, when new subscribers came with little effort, a single subscriber cost about $40 to $50 in the US and probably a little lower in the UK. It is estimated to have now potentially tripled in mature markets reaching saturation.

OLD BOY 03-01-2022 16:40

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36107866)

Well, it was always going to happen, there are only so many households to be accessed.

Netflix is a real success story and it seems to have captured the imagination of the British people.

There are, of course, still those who refuse to pay for their TV, as well as those who do not have broadband and those who think it is just to difficult to go about it. Progression into these homes is bound to go much more slowly.

As far as the older age groups are concerned, those who were in their 50s in 2010 are now in their 60s. Soon, even the elderly will be confident enough to use Netflix.

Carth 03-01-2022 16:59

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36107878)
Soon, even the elderly will be confident enough to use Netflix.

Online Bingo is booming mate, why would they bother with TV? :D

Itshim 03-01-2022 17:30

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36107878)
Well, it was always going to happen, there are only so many households to be accessed.

Netflix is a real success story and it seems to have captured the imagination of the British people.

There are, of course, still those who refuse to pay for their TV, as well as those who do not have broadband and those who think it is just to difficult to go about it. Progression into these homes is bound to go much more slowly.

As far as the older age groups are concerned, those who were in their 50s in 2010 are now in their 60s. Soon, even the elderly will be confident enough to use Netflix.

Thanks for that , love Netflix and in my 70's but what you say is true the one supplier l am confident with:D

jfman 03-01-2022 18:27

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36107878)
Well, it was always going to happen, there are only so many households to be accessed.

Netflix is a real success story and it seems to have captured the imagination of the British people.

There are, of course, still those who refuse to pay for their TV, as well as those who do not have broadband and those who think it is just to difficult to go about it. Progression into these homes is bound to go much more slowly.

As far as the older age groups are concerned, those who were in their 50s in 2010 are now in their 60s. Soon, even the elderly will be confident enough to use Netflix.

Interesting choice of language OB.

As you well know, not purchasing a product or service is a legitimate consumer choice. I’ve been telling you for some years OB that these streaming services have an upper limit of subscribers - the idea that somehow the gap is simply the elderly have a confidence issue is laughable.

Captured the imagination of the British people :D. It’s only television, OB.

Itshim 03-01-2022 19:28

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36107896)


It’s only television, OB.

good grief , realism at last was starting to wonder if it was the key to curing all the worlds ills:(

OLD BOY 03-01-2022 20:02

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36107896)
Interesting choice of language OB.

As you well know, not purchasing a product or service is a legitimate consumer choice. I’ve been telling you for some years OB that these streaming services have an upper limit of subscribers - the idea that somehow the gap is simply the elderly have a confidence issue is laughable.

I don’t disagree, jfman and I’m not sure why you are arguing. I never said the gap is simply the elderly, did I? But that’s where the biggest gap lies.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36107896)
Captured the imagination of the British people :D. It’s only television, OB.

Yes, it is only TV, but people seem passionate enough about it to write so much on it in this forum, even so far as to speculate about what channel numbers may be allocated or what might happen to shopping channels.

I think Netflix has captured the imagination because it is so different from anything we had before. But like the advent of ITV back in the day, people get used to it in the end.

jfman 03-01-2022 20:27

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36107909)
Yes, it is only TV, but people seem passionate enough about it to write so much on it in this forum, even so far as to speculate about what channel numbers may be allocated or what might happen to shopping channels.

With the best will in the world to everyone on CF the vast, vast majority of people simply watch television.

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I think Netflix has captured the imagination because it is so different from anything we had before. But like the advent of ITV back in the day, people get used to it in the end.
It depends what you had before I suppose. Cable companies have been pushing out on demand content for two decades now. Again, in the end I think you are mistakenly taking the view that people who don’t subscribe to streaming services do so for some irrational reason, or a lack of basic digital skills.

I think the major platforms and TV manufacturers have done an excellent job of integrating streaming services. The reality is far more likely to be the that they don’t represent good value for money to non-subscribers which ultimately the crux of all consumers discretionary spending. The comparison with ITV - a universal free to air service - is invalid.

muppetman11 03-01-2022 21:28

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To be fair on its current prices I’m generally happy with Netflix and it’s range of content in our house it’s Disney + which will be getting binned off when my annual sub expires shortly.

Netflix put lots of new content on which generally appeals to most members in our house.

Richardr 04-01-2022 13:12

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36107866)

As ever, a misleading headline. In the article it states that "Netflix will continue to grow, but at a much slower rate" - so it will get bigger in the UK and has not therefore reached its peak. The quote is about the rate of growth.

OLD BOY 04-01-2022 15:42

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36107914)

It depends what you had before I suppose. Cable companies have been pushing out on demand content for two decades now. Again, in the end I think you are mistakenly taking the view that people who don’t subscribe to streaming services do so for some irrational reason, or a lack of basic digital skills.

I think the major platforms and TV manufacturers have done an excellent job of integrating streaming services. The reality is far more likely to be the that they don’t represent good value for money to non-subscribers which ultimately the crux of all consumers discretionary spending. The comparison with ITV - a universal free to air service - is invalid.

I thought the on demand provision was great when it arrived on cable, but the choice was limited. Netflix took on demand to a whole new level.

The reality you perceive in relation to streaming services is not the reality I see, but hey, who cares? It’s only TV, eh, jfman! :D

The comparison to ITV was a comparison related to a new service. It was totally appropriate. The fact that some people choose not to subscribe to Netflix is the irrelevancy in the comparison I was making.

jfman 04-01-2022 16:11

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36108000)
I thought the on demand provision was great when it arrived on cable, but the choice was limited. Netflix took on demand to a whole new level.

The reality you perceive in relation to streaming services is not the reality I see, but hey, who cares? It’s only TV, eh, jfman! :D

The comparison to ITV was a comparison related to a new service. It was totally appropriate. The fact that some people choose not to subscribe to Netflix is the irrelevancy in the comparison I was making.

I fail to see how the fact people don’t subscribe to Netflix is relevant given the comparisons you have made about people getting “used” to it.

OLD BOY 05-01-2022 09:43

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36108005)
I fail to see how the fact people don’t subscribe to Netflix is relevant given the comparisons you have made about people getting “used” to it.

Except that wasn't the comparison I was making. I was referring to the novelty of new services. Once again, you are being overly pedantic and you are reading into things I say statements that aren't there.

jfman 05-01-2022 10:29

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36108063)
Except that wasn't the comparison I was making. I was referring to the novelty of new services. Once again, you are being overly pedantic and you are reading into things I say statements that aren't there.

I’m not sure how quoting your own words can be considered pedantry. You have, on multiple occasions now, implied that people don’t take up streaming services due to unfamiliarity, rather than cost or value.

Itshim 05-01-2022 18:45

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36108074)
I’m not sure how quoting your own words can be considered pedantry. You have, on multiple occasions now, implied that people don’t take up streaming services due to unfamiliarity, rather than cost or value.

I don't take it up as it offers nothing I want ! Got Netflix for one show ( once upon a time) .never left !:shocked:

RichardCoulter 06-01-2022 04:18

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Found what looks to be a good deal for sports fans:

https://auth.eurosport.co.uk/product...nner-subscribe

OLD BOY 06-01-2022 07:45

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36108074)
I’m not sure how quoting your own words can be considered pedantry. You have, on multiple occasions now, implied that people don’t take up streaming services due to unfamiliarity, rather than cost or value.

You have a tendency to quote out of context.

Hugh 06-01-2022 10:42

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36108217)
You have a tendency to quote out of context.

You have a tendency to state that, without ever demonstrating what was out of context - just as a general "get out of jail" card.

And let’s not forget your other favourite "you’re just being pedantic"… ;)

Legendkiller2k 06-01-2022 13:12

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36108213)
Found what looks to be a good deal for sports fans:

https://auth.eurosport.co.uk/product...nner-subscribe

I think this is better value tbh as includes Discovery+ and some sport does get shown on Quest (ok free channel but still) https://auth.discoveryplus.com/gb/product?flow=purchase

ScottishSteve 06-01-2022 13:27

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36108271)
I think this is better value tbh as includes Discovery+ and some sport does get shown on Quest (ok free channel but still) https://auth.discoveryplus.com/gb/product?flow=purchase

Discovery+ with Eurosport for £29.99 for a year is a no brainier.
Excellent deal

1andrew1 06-01-2022 14:09

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Discovery+ with Eurosport for £29.99 for a year is a no brainier.
Excellent deal

It says £59.99 on the link I'm viewing.

TimeLord2018 06-01-2022 14:15

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WarnerMedia and ViacomCBS Are Exploring Possible Sale of CW Network
https://deadline.com/2022/01/the-cw-...ar-1234905157/

Isn't surprising Warner Bros. TV will want to prioritise programming for HBO Max and CBS Studios for Paramount+.

ScottishSteve 06-01-2022 14:42

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It says £59.99 on the link I'm viewing.

That’s weird says £29.99 here

Hugh 06-01-2022 14:50

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I only get the first two options when I look at it…

https://auth.discoveryplus.com/gb/pr...oaAroREALw_wcB

Mad Max 06-01-2022 15:11

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No good to football fans, unfortunately.

1andrew1 06-01-2022 15:24

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Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36108287)
That’s weird says £29.99 here

Weird. Have you got a VPN?

ScottishSteve 06-01-2022 15:32

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Nope just on my iPad on my virgin router

I do have discovery plus but not signed in

1andrew1 06-01-2022 15:53

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Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36108296)
Nope just on my iPad on my virgin router

I do have discovery plus but not signed in

Hmm, I think it must be my end.

Legendkiller2k 06-01-2022 16:09

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36108297)
Hmm, I think it must be my end.

£59.99 here too no £29.99 option.

TimeLord2018 06-01-2022 19:42

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£59.99 here aswell.

ScottishSteve 06-01-2022 19:44

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I just had a look on the computer and the £29.99 one doesn’t appear.
Very strange

1andrew1 06-01-2022 20:47

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Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36108335)
I just had a look on the computer and the £29.99 one doesn’t appear.
Very strange

Maybe it was cached?

Legendkiller2k 06-01-2022 21:16

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Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36108335)
I just had a look on the computer and the £29.99 one doesn’t appear.
Very strange

Might be a app offer?

bubblegun 07-01-2022 11:24

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Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36108335)
I just had a look on the computer and the £29.99 one doesn’t appear.
Very strange


I get £39.99 offer here - when I enable javascript!

1andrew1 10-01-2022 11:13

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From today's FT on HBO Max (10/01/22)
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When asked when the service would debut in the UK, Kilar* said: “It’s our ambition to bring HBO Max to the UK. I’m trying not to be cagey about it, but we do have a contract that obviously is important to us.”
https://www.ft.com/content/10d41405-...0-f02586081b6a

*Chief Executive of WarnerMedia. Tipped to leave when Discovery acquires control.

ScottishSteve 10-01-2022 11:39

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36108696)
From today's FT on HBO Max (10/01/22)

https://www.ft.com/content/10d41405-...0-f02586081b6a

*Chief Executive of WarnerMedia. Tipped to leave when Discovery acquires control.

For those without a FT sub

https://archive.vn/r0pjk

TimeLord2018 12-01-2022 07:35

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36108298)
£59.99 here too no £29.99 option.

It"s now showing as £29.99 for me

Looks there struggling for subscribers the UK at least

1andrew1 12-01-2022 10:56

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January's always a tough time for subscribers who have spent heavily over Christmas.

Looks like I now have a special offer until 20th February at £29.99 for year 1 only.

Long term, I can see D+ being an add on or part of HBO Max when the two companies merge.

Legendkiller2k 12-01-2022 12:59

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36109008)
January's always a tough time for subscribers who have spent heavily over Christmas.

Looks like I now have a special offer until 20th February at £29.99 for year 1 only.

Long term, I can see D+ being an add on or part of HBO Max when the two companies merge.

Offer showing for me too.

cheekyangus 12-01-2022 13:11

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Discovery+ offer probably, partially at least, related to Winter Olympics coming up, since they have the most coverage.


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