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Sephiroth 18-01-2023 23:12
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36143922)
Seems appropriate, he can join the other wackos on this channel.

Private Eye did an article on some of these unsavoury individuals: https://www.private-eye.co.uk/issue-1589/media-news

Patrick Christys



Dan Wootton



Mark Steyn



Nick Dixon



Calvin Robinson
All of the above are top class journalists, surpassed in quality only by Farage.

To take you up on one quote you posted:

Quote:
During recent immigration debates, Robinson, who is black, repeatedly praised the views of Enoch "Rivers of Blood" Powell, tweeting that "Powell provided an important contribution to the conversation" and changing his background image to a picture of the politician.
What was wrong with the "Rivers of Blood" speech? The shock/horror of the time was all play-acting and made at a time when Powell's long range vision wasn't accepted and demographics were different. Now look at the culture mix in the UK and where it's heading with all this immigration. It's a matter of time. When Powell spoke, the UK population was 55m; today it is 67m of which c. 81% is categorised as "White".

I'm really fed up with being made to feel that being "white" in my country is something to be ashamed of.

I've little doubt that I'm now going to be vilified by the virtue signallers on this forum.

Hugh 19-01-2023 00:50
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You’re absolutely right - all of those are below the level of quality that Farage is…

btw, your figures are misleading - White & White:Other White total 87.9% of the population.

White - 81.7% (48.7 million)

White: Other White" (6.2%, 3.7 million)

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...(1.2%20million)

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The term Other White is a classification of ethnicity in the United Kingdom and has been used in documents such as the 2011 UK Census to describe people who self-identify as white (chiefly European) persons who are not of the English, Welsh, Scottish, Romani or Irish ethnic groupings.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Othe...,Other%20White

Damien 19-01-2023 08:07
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36143925)
All of the above are top class journalists, surpassed in quality only by Farage.
Not really journalists though are they? We don't usually know the name of proper journalists because they don't make themselves the story. They're outrage merchants. Their job isn't to uncover things but incite people to drive engagement. Say something outlandish, get people to react and monetise the outrage. It takes little more talent than that seen from an internet troll.

The irony is that oftentimes the left-wing counterparts they rail against the most are their allies in a symbiotic relationship where they need each other to keep their careers going. They each other to react/argue against.

I stopped following people like James O'Brien years ago because of this as the grift is so obvious. He panders to this sympathetic audience, provokes his unsympathetic audience and makes a career selling ads or books to these mugs who think 'owning' a caricature of right (or left in the case of the commentators above) is a worthwhile use of a time.

1andrew1 19-01-2023 10:24
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36143925)
All of the above are top class journalists, surpassed in quality only by Farage.
They're all shock-jocks and not journalists. Ex politicians and darlings of social media.

That's why the real journalist Andrew Neil left GB News.

Mr K 19-01-2023 10:27
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Populism, not journalism, sums the channel up.

Mind you the right wing loons aren't that popular anymore. They've had their chance if power for a few years and the country is a shambles.

ianch99 19-01-2023 10:41
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36143925)
All of the above are top class journalists, surpassed in quality only by Farage.

To take you up on one quote you posted:



What was wrong with the "Rivers of Blood" speech? The shock/horror of the time was all play-acting and made at a time when Powell's long range vision wasn't accepted and demographics were different. Now look at the culture mix in the UK and where it's heading with all this immigration. It's a matter of time. When Powell spoke, the UK population was 55m; today it is 67m of which c. 81% is categorised as "White".

I'm really fed up with being made to feel that being "white" in my country is something to be ashamed of.

I've little doubt that I'm now going to be vilified by the virtue signallers on this forum.
There is no virtue signalling is calling a racist a racist.

1andrew1 19-01-2023 10:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36143951)
Populism, not journalism, sums the channel up.

Mind you the right wing loons aren't that popular anymore. They've had their chance if power for a few years and the country is a shambles.
Populism - be it the Corbyn or Farage flavour - never works as there are always trade-offs. Telling people want they want to hear is one thing, delivering it entirely different.

It's will be easier for people like Rees-Mogg to whinge about the government not finding any Brexit benefits from the comfort of a GB News sofa paid for by a Dubai hedge fund than actually discovering any himself when he was tasked with doing so!

Sephiroth 19-01-2023 12:06
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GB news calls the shambles just like we do here. Journalists/schmournalist - nitpicking.

Paul 20-01-2023 00:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36143928)
White - 81.7% (48.7 million)

White: Other White" (6.2%, 3.7 million)
Other White ? WTF is that ? Cream, Apple White, Magnolia ?

:confused:

1andrew1 20-01-2023 00:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36143979)
Other White ? WTF is that ? Cream, Apple White, Magnolia ?

:confused:
See post 702.

Hugh 20-01-2023 01:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36143979)
Other White ? WTF is that ? Cream, Apple White, Magnolia ?

:confused:
Not British or Irish - so American, Canadian, Australian/NZ, or European.

Quote:
White British is an ethnicity classification used for the native white population identifying as English, Scottish, Welsh, Cornish, Northern Irish, or British in the United Kingdom Census
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whit...ngdom%20Census.

Mad Max 26-01-2023 20:52
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Quote:
Quote:
I'm really fed up with being made to feel that being "white" in my country is something to be ashamed of.

I've little doubt that I'm now going to be vilified by the virtue signallers on this forum.
Spot on sir.

Chrysalis 31-01-2023 03:02
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The few times I have checked out GB news/ Talktv, it indicates its far right leaning, and also interesting we have Tory MPs as well as Farage having slots.

Sephiroth 31-01-2023 08:31
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 36144784)
The few times I have checked out GB news/ Talktv, it indicates its far right leaning, and also interesting we have Tory MPs as well as Farage having slots.
Exactly what is a ‘far right leaning’?

ianch99 31-01-2023 10:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36144790)
Exactly what is a ‘far right leaning’?
Agreeing with Enoch Powell's racist vision of the UK

Mr K 31-01-2023 10:36
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They could really do with some sitcoms on the channel to lighten the mood.
How about reruns of 'Love thy neighbour' , 'Till death do us part' or 'It ain't half hot mum' ?

Chris 31-01-2023 11:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36144804)
They could really do with some sitcoms on the channel to lighten the mood.
How about reruns of 'Love thy neighbour' , 'Till death do us part' or 'It ain't half hot mum' ?
I believe the repeat fees for Curry and Chips are very reasonable.

Chrysalis 31-01-2023 12:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36144790)
Exactly what is a ‘far right leaning’?
I can give examples no problem.

Union rep was been interviewed, young lass as one of the presenters went out on personal attacks on the guy, never seen that kind of behaviour from a tv presenter before, couldnt hide the anti union meta.

Another one with daily mail editor on as guest without anyone to counter him, so was watching for an hour right wing propaganda promoting liz truss.

Others I already mentioned, farage, rees mogg and dorries.

Maybe it is balanced during times I didnt watch, but I can only comment on what I see.

Also this is interesting.

Source wikipedia.

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TalkTV is a British television channel owned and operated by News UK. It launched on 25 April 2022.
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News Corp UK & Ireland Limited (trading as News UK, formerly News International and NI Group) is a British newspaper publisher, and a wholly owned subsidiary of the American mass media conglomerate News Corp.[1] It is the current publisher of The Times, The Sunday Times, and The Sun newspapers; its former publications include the Today, News of the World, and The London Paper newspapers. Until June 2002, it was called News International plc.[2] On 31 May 2011, the company name was changed from News International Limited to NI Group Limited,[3] and on 26 June 2013 to News UK.[4]

Hugh 31-01-2023 13:11
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Are you confusing TalkTV with GBNews?

Two separate organisations…

Pierre 31-01-2023 14:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 36144822)
Union rep was been interviewed, young lass as one of the presenters went out on personal attacks on the guy, never seen that kind of behaviour from a tv presenter before,
Ever watched Kay Burley?

pip08456 31-01-2023 15:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36144827)
Ever watched Kay Burley?
I can't stand that woman.

Chrysalis 31-01-2023 15:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36144824)
Are you confusing TalkTV with GBNews?

Two separate organisations…
There is as both in title.

But to separate, the daily mail editor was on gb news for an hour talking up truss with no counter view present.

The others are all from talk tv.

Farage on gb news. JRM gb news. Nadine talk tv.

---------- Post added at 15:40 ---------- Previous post was at 15:40 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36144827)
Ever watched Kay Burley?
Yeah dont like her.

1andrew1 06-02-2023 21:08
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Good to see GB News cleaning up its act.
Quote:
GB News presenter quits after channel tries to make him pay Ofcom fines

Mark Steyn could face sanction by media regulator after he cast doubt on safety of Covid vaccines

Steyn, who has been off-air since last year after suffering two heart attacks, told fans on his personal website that the station bosses initially insisted he could not return unless a defibrillator was fitted in the studio.

He said this was fixed with a call to “Defibrillators R Us”, only for Angelos Frangopoulos, GB News’s chief executive, to demand Steyn agree to personally cover the costs of dealing with Ofcom and paying any fines for breaches of the broadcasting code. This is a highly unusual situation given the fines are the legal responsibility of the broadcast licence holder, not the individual presenter.

Steyn, who was employed on a freelance basis, said his response was that “you may be a homicidal maniac intent on bringing on a third fatal heart attack but you’ll have to do better than this”.

Steyn said the proposal would be untenable. “I’m on the hook for Ofcom fines but I don’t have any say in our defence against an Ofcom complaint – that’s all done by GB News. Ofcom’s bitch, as I call the compliance officer, will be making the weedy defence to Ofcom and then I’m the one who has to pay the £40,000 fine,” he added.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ay-ofcom-fines
See also https://order-order.com/2023/02/06/m...r-ofcom-fines/

Sephiroth 06-02-2023 21:31
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A great pity. Also OFCOM are now the thought police. Is this the UK?

Damien 06-02-2023 22:35
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Yes, and OFCOM has regulated television for years. You can't broadcast whatever you want.

That said it's the channel not the person whose liable.

Sephiroth 06-02-2023 22:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36145331)
Yes, and OFCOM has regulated television for years. You can't broadcast whatever you want.

That said it's the channel not the person whose liable.
But the regulation should not be directed at opinion other than inflammatory stuff - you know, incentive to violence etc. It is perfectly reasonable to be suspicious of drugs that have not gone through the normal proving cycle and there is enough evidence that some people react adversely to the MRNA drugs. Only wider tests and stats would enable medical statisticians to examine medical profiles of the reactive people and that hasn't happened yet.

For the record, I've had 5 shots and I'll go for an annual booster willingly. My wife has had 4 shots and believes Mark Steyn.

1andrew1 06-02-2023 23:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36145332)
But the regulation should not be directed at opinion other than inflammatory stuff - you know, incentive to violence etc. It is perfectly reasonable to be suspicious of drugs that have not gone through the normal proving cycle and there is enough evidence that some people react adversely to the MRNA drugs. Only wider tests and stats would enable medical statisticians to examine medical profiles of the reactive people and that hasn't happened yet.

For the record, I've had 5 shots and I'll go for an annual booster willingly. My wife has had 4 shots and believes Mark Steyn.
It's not about opinion but about stating as a fact that having the extra vaccine dose was killing Britons and that there was a media silence on the issue.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...booster-claims

I think his other Ofcom complaint was along similar lines.

Sephiroth 07-02-2023 07:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36145333)
It's not about opinion but about stating as a fact that having the extra vaccine dose was killing Britons and that there was a media silence on the issue.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...booster-claims

I think his other Ofcom complaint was along similar lines.
I think the MRNA drug has been killing Britons. It's a consequence of rushing the drug into dispensation.

The authorisation is temporary. https://www.gov.uk/government/public...vid-19-vaccine

Quote:
This temporary Authorisation under Regulation 174 permits the supply of identified COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 batches, based on the safety, quality and efficacy data submitted by Pfizer/BioNTech to MHRA in the period from 1 October to 2 December 2020;

1andrew1 07-02-2023 09:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36145336)
I think the MRNA drug has been killing Britons. It's a consequence of rushing the drug into dispensation.

The authorisation is temporary. https://www.gov.uk/government/public...vid-19-vaccine
That's not evidence of:
- the drug killing Britons.
- a link between deaths and speed of approval.
which are the controversial aspects.

The speed of approval is widely known.

But we digress. :)

Sephiroth 07-02-2023 10:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36145332)
But the regulation should not be directed at opinion other than inflammatory stuff - you know, incentive to violence etc. It is perfectly reasonable to be suspicious of drugs that have not gone through the normal proving cycle and there is enough evidence that some people react adversely to the MRNA drugs. Only wider tests and stats would enable medical statisticians to examine medical profiles of the reactive people and that hasn't happened yet.

For the record, I've had 5 shots and I'll go for an annual booster willingly. My wife has had 4 shots and believes Mark Steyn.
I haven’t digressed. The approval was necessarily rushed but is temporary precisely because the normal criteria for approval could not be met.

There is little doubt in my mind that certain people, with certain unspecified characteristics have experienced common symptoms after the booster jab. It is not wrong to voice concerns on a public platform. There should be no thought police in this sort of case.

Mr K 07-02-2023 10:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36145344)
I haven’t digressed. The approval was necessarily rushed but is temporary precisely because the normal criteria for approval could not be met.

There is little doubt in my mind that certain people, with certain unspecified characteristics have experienced common symptoms after the booster jab. It is not wrong to voice concerns on a public platform. There should be no thought police in this sort of case.
OFCOM and GB News think differently. The presenter told lies to push up his viewing figures. It's the Daily Sport of tv.

Chris 07-02-2023 11:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36145332)
But the regulation should not be directed at opinion other than inflammatory stuff -
Then your beef isn’t with Ofcom but with the very long-standing legislative principles that enable and regulate broadcasting in the UK. Print media is fair game for politically motivated ownership/campaigning; broadcast media is not. Nowhere do the rules restrict their sanctions only to inflammatory opinion-sharing. TV and radio current affairs output is required to be balanced. That means you can get Andrew Neil to host a show in which Ed Balls and George Osborne give their opinions at the same time, or you could have him forensically interview Rishi Sunak one week and Keir Starmer the next; you can even allow him to offer his perspective on the major events of the week, provided that in the round he isn’t obviously favouring one view over another.

What you can’t do is allow a presenter on a channel that has the word ‘news’ in its name to go on a rant in which they attach vaccine side effect statistics to insinuations of a deep state conspiracy, sans evidence. Giving strongly opinionated individuals their own show and making it look like a platform for their opinions is inherently likely to draw Ofcom’s attention. The Tucker Carlson approach to TV ‘news’ simply isn’t allowed in the UK and never has been. GBN is on a sticky wicket if it thinks it can push its output in that direction.

1andrew1 07-02-2023 11:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36145347)
Then your beef isn’t with Ofcom but with the very long-standing legislative principles that enable and regulate broadcasting in the UK. Print media is fair game for politically motivated ownership/campaigning; broadcast media is not. Nowhere do the rules restrict their sanctions only to inflammatory opinion-sharing. TV and radio current affairs output is required to be balanced. That means you can get Andrew Neil to host a show in which Ed Balls and George Osborne give their opinions at the same time, or you could have him forensically interview Rishi Sunak one week and Keir Starmer the next; you can even allow him to offer his perspective on the major events of the week, provided that in the round he isn’t obviously favouring one view over another.

What you can’t do is allow a presenter on a channel that has the word ‘news’ in its name to go on a rant in which they attach vaccine side effect statistics to insinuations of a deep state conspiracy, sans evidence. Giving strongly opinionated individuals their own show and making it look like a platform for their opinions is inherently likely to draw Ofcom’s attention. The Tucker Carlson approach to TV ‘news’ simply isn’t allowed in the UK and never has been. GBN is on a sticky wicket if it thinks it can push its output in that direction.
I agree with most of what you're saying but I thought this part of the article was interesting in terms of political balance.

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Ahead of GB News’ launch last year there had been questions about how Ofcom would regulate a television news channel that was overtly political in its outlook. British broadcasting law requires a commitment to “due impartiality”, which means that an audience must be exposed to alternative points of view. However, a channel can still take a strong editorial line – and does not have to give equal airtime to both sides of a debate.

At first GB News regularly booked left-leaning guests for discussions to ensure they could meet this due impartiality standard. But staff at the station said they did this less once they realised Ofcom was not going to press on the issue.

Chris 07-02-2023 11:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36145348)
I agree with most of what you're saying but I thought this part of the article was interesting in terms of political balance.
The rules are what they are. Ofcom is simply trying to be as light-touch as it can so it avoids accusations of censorship. GBN correctly deduced that as long as its output is balanced overall, it is less likely to get in trouble if the opinions expressed in any one programme are occasionally a little on the edge. As I said earlier, it’s perfectly standard for a TV news programme to get an interview with a senior front bench politician without also interviewing their opposite number on the same show. That would be impractical most of the time. Ofcom knows this and as long as the channel maintains overall balance they’re happy.

However its senior executives lack skill and experience (of the kind the BBC and ITN have in spades) and in time have somehow come to think they can get away with just about anything. But they can’t. And now, having awakened the Ofcom kraken, they might discover that giving occasional airtime to a few lefty gobshytes will no longer give them a free pass to let the likes of Mark Steyn say whatever they like.

Hugh 07-02-2023 12:58
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36145336)
I think the MRNA drug has been killing Britons. It's a consequence of rushing the drug into dispensation.

The authorisation is temporary. https://www.gov.uk/government/public...vid-19-vaccine
From the top of your link.

Quote:
Stock authorised under Regulation 174 is no longer in use. Please see here for latest product information.
Here is the full approval…

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...pfizerbiontech

Itshim 07-02-2023 19:00
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Second person that I personally know has now died , having had a stroke with in a short time of having COVID jab. Yes I have had them and are fine but please not push them as very safe, do not know anyone that died of covid or for that matter even had it . Doctors / scientists have got it wrong many times over the years let's not kid ourselves that they get it right all of time . Many people are alive today living with the effects of "safe" drugs.

Chris 07-02-2023 21:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36145393)
Second person that I personally know has now died , having had a stroke with in a short time of having COVID jab. Yes I have had them and are fine but please not push them as very safe, do not know anyone that died of covid or for that matter even had it . Doctors / scientists have got it wrong many times over the years let's not kid ourselves that they get it right all of time . Many people are alive today living with the effects of "safe" drugs.
While news of any death is a tragedy, anecdotal evidence is the very worst kind and does not in any way demonstrate a link between your friend’s covid jab and their stroke. You might as well blame whatever they happened to have for breakfast that morning.

Clinical trials are held at scale and double-blind to provide quality data and eliminate bias.

Mr K 07-02-2023 21:51
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I'll take the risk of the vaccine over the risk of covid.
Lots of people die getting out of bed in the morning, dislodge a blood clot or trip up putting their pants on. However staying inactive in bed is equally if not more risky. Life's like that...Balance of risks...

1andrew1 08-02-2023 12:51
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Quote:
Jewish group and MPs urge GB News to stop indulging conspiracy theories

Fears antisemitic tropes are being spread after host Neil Oliver discusses plan to impose ‘one-world government’

The UK’s leading Jewish organisation and a group of MPs have called on GB News and the media regulator Ofcom to tackle the broadcaster’s indulgence of conspiracy theories, warning that some recent segments and guests risked spreading ideas linked to antisemitism.

The criticism comes as the channel faces increasing scrutiny over its mix of serious news with programmes that delve heavily into conspiracies about areas including Covid vaccines and a plot to create a world government.

The decision by the Board of Deputies of British Jews and the all-party parliamentary group against antisemitism to speak out follows a recent edition of the weekly GB News show hosted by Neil Oliver, the broadcaster and historian.

Oliver, who delivers trademark monologues to camera, used the show last Saturday to discuss what he called a “silent war” by generations of politicians to take “total control of the people” and impose a “one-world government”.

The idea seemingly echoes a noted conspiracy theory document called Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars, supposedly a secret manual for world government found by chance in 1986. This has a long section on the role of the Rothschild banking dynasty, a common antisemitic trope.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...iracy-theories

Sephiroth 08-02-2023 14:12
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Well yes - full marks to GB News in the light of the Digital Pound and Smart Meters.

And indeed any legislation that reduces parliamentary scrutiny should be suspected initially in the conspiracy theory sense.

Of course anything that hints at or is aimed at a ‘Jewish conspiracy’ is open to the accusation of antisemitism. That said, nothing should be beyon scrutiny.




Itshim 08-02-2023 17:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36145444)

Well yes - full marks to GB News in the light of the Digital Pound and Smart Meters.

And indeed any legislation that reduces parliamentary scrutiny should be suspected initially in the conspiracy theory sense.

Of course anything that hints at or is aimed at a ‘Jewish conspiracy’ is open to the accusation of antisemitism. That said, nothing should be beyon scrutiny.



As always, complaining when. " you" don't like they thoughts people say out load . Let's shut up any one that says anything we don't like , can think of four countries that this is the law:shocked:

1andrew1 13-02-2023 03:34
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I put GB News on the other day.

I was intrigued by the advert break. As well as an NHS advert urging you to make a GP appointment if you were unwell, there was one for a south Wales car repair garage and another for a south Wales in-person gold buying shop.

The south Wales adverts were reminiscent of those shown by local cinemas many moons ago with similar production values. I was viewing in London and not Wales.

Sephiroth 13-02-2023 07:54
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Just goes to show what you're missing, Andrew! As a regular GB News viewer (some evenings and always Farage), I'm now immune from those South Wales adverts, which have been there since day 1.

1andrew1 13-02-2023 10:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36145842)
Just goes to show what you're missing, Andrew! As a regular GB News viewer (some evenings and always Farage), I'm now immune from those South Wales adverts, which have been there since day 1.
Whilst Farage is a great communicator, he comes across as too beholden to Russia to be taken seriously.

Sephiroth 13-02-2023 10:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36145852)
Whilst Farage is a great communicator, he comes across as too beholden to Russia to be taken seriously.
Not to me, Andrew. He appears to me to be very cautious about Russia and it's potentially ultimate actions. True, he colours that with some anti-Biden rhetoric, but no way pro-Russia in any sense I can detect.

ianch99 13-02-2023 11:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36145854)
Not to me, Andrew. He appears to me to be very cautious about Russia and it's potentially ultimate actions. True, he colours that with some anti-Biden rhetoric, but no way pro-Russia in any sense I can detect.
Detect this:

Nigel Farage: Vladimir Putin is the world leader I most admire

Quote:
Nigel Farage has named Vladimir Putin as the world leader he most admires. He praised the Russian president’s skills as an “operator”, citing his “brilliant” handling of the civil war in Syria.
Nigel Farage's relationship with Russian media comes under scrutiny

Quote:
Nigel Farage's near monthly appearances on state-owned Russia Today have come under scrutiny after his expression of admiration for Vladimir Putin this week.

In one of his 17 appearances on the channel seen by the Guardian and transmitted since December 2010, he claims Europe is governed not by elected democracies but instead "by the worst people we have seen in Europe since 1945".

The Ukip leader has appeared so frequently that he is cited in literature for the TV station Russia Today as one of their special and "endlessly quotable" British guests. "He has been known far longer to the RT audience than most of the British electorate," Russia Today claims.

The Ukip leader did not issue a word of criticism of Russian democracy in any of the Russia Today interviews viewed by the Guardian. Last August he told the channel that British intervention in Libya and Syria would go ahead regardless of any vote in the UN, and said he was still not sure President Bashar al-Assad had used chemical weapons.

BenMcr 13-02-2023 11:15
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Don't forget this too - a Russian talking point

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2022400.html

Quote:
Nigel Farage says Ukraine invasion is result of EU and Nato provoking Putin

Former Brexit Party chief says the attack on Ukraine is a ‘consequence of EU and Nato expansion’

Sephiroth 13-02-2023 12:05
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I'm not going to win this one!

Pierre 13-02-2023 13:59
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
I'm not a Farage Fan boy, but neither do I dislike him. From your first link (which was from 2014)
Quote:
Mr Farage was asked by GQ magazine’s new interviewer Alastair Campbell, Tony Blair’s former spin chief, which world leader he most admired. “As an operator, but not as a human being, I would say Putin,” he replied. “The way he played the whole Syria thing. Brilliant. Not that I approve of him politically. How many journalists in jail now?”
and

Quote:
the Ukip leader stressed he did not approve of Crimea’s annexation, but lambasted EU leaders for being “weak and vain” over Ukraine and Syria. He added: “If you poke the Russian bear with a stick, he will respond.”
Doesn't come across as "pro" Russian to me.

From the second link also 9 years old, which basically just has a go at him for being on RT, back in the day quotes him.

Quote:
He pointed out: "I said I don't like him, I wouldn't trust him and I wouldn't want to live in his country, but compared with the kids who run foreign policy in this country, I've more respect for him than our lot."
Which more of an attack on the British Government, rather than a love for Putin.

And from Ben's link - in which there is no pro-Russian comments at all.

Quote:
Mr Farage admitted he was "wrong" to have previously suggested that the Russian president would not attack his western neighbour.

"Well, I was wrong. Putin has gone much further than I thought he would," Mr Farage said in a tweet on Thursday as Russian helicopters were spotted fighting near Kiev.
So I do not see anyone beholden to Russia, nor detect any pro-Russia sentiment.

Sephiroth 13-02-2023 14:03
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
I'm beginning to win again, thanks to Pierre's analysis.

Chris 13-02-2023 14:30
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36145862)
So I do not see anyone beholden to Russia, nor detect any pro-Russia sentiment.
Farage isn’t explicitly pro-Russia, he’s just not a particularly insightful commentator. He isn’t any kind of expert on Russia so he defaults to the Great Powers mindset that still underpins a lot of commentary about its invasion of Ukraine from 2014 onwards.

His assumption that Putin is entitled to feel provoked by EU and/or NATO expansion is a worldview right out of the postwar Yalta conference that carved up Europe between Western and Eastern blocs. It implicitly supports the Russian claim to have an interest in, and influence over, the behaviour of smaller states on its borders which flies in the face of the principle that sovereign states, especially those with democratic governments, have the right to determine their own fate - a principle that has grown stronger and clearer with every day that has passed since the fall of the USSR and its so-called Warsaw Pact.

That is not how the modern world works, which is why Russia is presently being taught a costly lesson in realpolitik in southern and eastern Ukraine that will, in the next 12-18 months, result in its defeat, followed by a generation of isolation and grinding poverty. It may also have the secondary benefit of deterring a Chinese invasion of Taiwan.

Farage has, however, read the situation poorly at both ends. On the one hand he’s giving credence to Putin’s actions (whilst claiming not to) by appealing to the great-power politics of the last century, he also misunderstood Putin and his willingness to invade Ukraine because he is ignorant of Russian history and particularly how that informs Putin’s sense of destiny.

The upshot of all of this is that, willingly or unwillingly, he has ended up at every turn amplifying Russia’s preferred talking points (we’re not going to invade, we were entitled to feel aggrieved, blame NATO). I don’t know whether Farage has jumped on the ‘Putin needs an off-ramp/Ukraine must be told it has to negotiate’ bandwagon but I won’t be surprised if he has.

ianch99 13-02-2023 15:55
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36145862)
I'm not a Farage Fan boy, but neither do I dislike him. From your first link (which was from 2014)


and



Doesn't come across as "pro" Russian to me.

From the second link also 9 years old, which basically just has a go at him for being on RT, back in the day quotes him.

Which more of an attack on the British Government, rather than a love for Putin.

And from Ben's link - in which there is no pro-Russian comments at all.



So I do not see anyone beholden to Russia, nor detect any pro-Russia sentiment.
You're just not looking hard enough. Farage appeared regularly on Russia Today, whose own editor described it as a "weapon" of the Russian state. Russia, 9 years ago, is the same Russia as today, nothing has changed unless you think Russia 9 years ago was a land of Sunshine and Puppies where Putin was a latter day Mother Teresa.

Farage was paid by RT - the Russian state - for appearances over years.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...exit-questions

Quote:
RT recognised Farage’s value way back in 2011. An ex-Ukip insider tells me how RT’s London correspondent “practically lived inside Ukip’s offices. They targeted Gerard Batten first [the current leader of Ukip] and then Farage. They loved it. RT would ask them on every week. They’d talk about anything.” Batten did not respond to the Observer’s questions about his relationship with RT.

Farage is “phenomenally useful for the Russian government,” Ben Nimmo, a leading researcher into Russian online propaganda, tells me. “The thing about RT is that they are completely open about what it is. The editor-in-chief has described it as ‘information warfare’. She has said it’s as much a part of Russia’s arsenal as its ministry of defence.”
Farage was, and still is, Putin's useful idiot.

And yes, I equate admiring Putin as being pro-Russia, YMMV ...

1andrew1 13-02-2023 16:11
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36145873)
Farage was, and still is, Putin's useful idiot
:clap::clap::clap:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36145865)
The upshot of all of this is that, willingly or unwillingly, he has ended up at every turn amplifying Russia’s preferred talking points (we’re not going to invade, we were entitled to feel aggrieved, blame NATO).
:clap::clap::clap:

Sephiroth 13-02-2023 16:30
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
I'm not going to win this!

Damien 13-02-2023 16:45
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36145875)
I'm not going to win this!
You don't have to 'win' or 'lose' anything, people can just have different opinions. But what do you think about Farage's Russian comments?

Sephiroth 13-02-2023 17:02
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36145877)
You don't have to 'win' or 'lose' anything, people can just have different opinions. But what do you think about Farage's Russian comments?
On balance, not impressed, now.

Pierre 13-02-2023 19:30
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36145873)
You're just not looking hard enough. Farage appeared regularly on Russia Today,
. He’s appeared on the BBC more than RT. He holds the record for most appearances on QT and that was 5 years ago.

Quote:
Russia, 9 years ago, is the same Russia as today, nothing has changed unless you think Russia 9 years ago was a land of Sunshine and Puppies where Putin was a latter day Mother Teresa.
I only refer to 9 yrs as you’re the one making the accusation, and the best you can do is two very poor articles from 9yrs ago.

Quote:
Farage was paid by RT - the Russian state - for appearances over years.
He was paid by all media he appeared on. After Brexit one year he made £500,000 out of appearing on all media.

A very long article that says absolutely nothing

Quote:
RT recognised Farage’s value way back in 2011. An ex-Ukip insidertells me how RT’s London correspondent “practically lived inside Ukip’s offices. They targeted Gerard Batten first [the current leader of Ukip] and then Farage. They loved it. RT would ask them on every week. They’d talk about anything.” Batten did not respond to the Observer’s questions about his relationship with RT.
Unsubstantiated claim

Quote:
Farage is “phenomenally useful for the Russian government,” Ben Nimmo, a leading researcher into Russian online propaganda, tells me. “The thing about RT is that they are completely open about what it is. The editor-in-chief has described it as ‘information warfare’. She has said it’s as much a part of Russia’s arsenal as its ministry of defence.”
The bold is a link to an article that doesn’t mention Farage at all, the first statement is just an opinion comment that is totally unsubstantiated with any other evidence regarding Farage.


Quote:
I equate admiring Putin as being pro-Russia, YMMV ...
As is your prerogative, doesn’t mean it’s correct.

I’m happy to condemn Farage as a Russian sympathiser, but only with evidence. You haven’t provided any.


It’s very much similar to the very popular “ JK Rowling is a vicious transphobic” trope.

If she’s that transphobic there must be lots of evidence, just post a few examples…………………..

Silence.

GrimUpNorth 13-02-2023 19:59
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36145878)
On balance, not impressed, now.
Maybe Nige is the type of chap who has no morals and will spout whatever claptrap the highest bidder wants him to???

Mick 13-02-2023 20:44
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
A very long article that says absolutely nothing
And also posted in a pathetic lefty rag, I wouldn’t mop up dog piss with.

Back on topic, which isn’t Farage.

Mr K 13-02-2023 21:16
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Very poor on sports GB news and it's weather forecasts are terrible.... In fact they aren't that good on news.

Good on shouty people though. They seem angry for some reason. Still searching for the sunlit uplands I should think...

ianch99 13-02-2023 22:47
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36145911)
And also posted in a pathetic lefty rag, I wouldn’t mop up dog piss with.

Back on topic, which isn’t Farage.
Welcome back!

Pierre 13-02-2023 22:50
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36145911)
And also posted in a pathetic lefty rag, I wouldn’t mop up dog piss with.

Back on topic, which isn’t Farage.
:tu:

1andrew1 06-03-2023 13:54
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
GB News in breach after Mark Steyn Covid broadcast

According to the regulator, the programme, broadcast on April 21, 2022, incorrectly claimed that official UKHSA data provided definitive evidence of a causal link between receiving a third Covid-19 vaccine and higher infection, hospitalisation and death rates.

Ofcom said the content was “materially misleading” because the way the data was presented to viewers during the programme did not take account of the significant differences in age or health of people in the vaccinated and unvaccinated groups studied.

In a statement, Ofcom said that while broadcasters are free to transmit programmes which may be considered controversial and challenging, the obligation to ensure audiences are not materially misled remained.

A separate investigation remains open on an episode of the Mark Steyn programme featuring author and journalist Dr Naomi Wolf that received 411 complaints after its broadcast last October.
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2023...vid-broadcast/

Mr K 09-03-2023 09:49
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
GB News lost over £30m in its first year on the air as the upstart broadcaster was racked by internal disagreements and an advertising boycott.

Accounts for GB News Limited for the year to May showed that the company made a £30.7m loss on revenues of £3.6m.

The figures show the channel, set up by broadcasting veteran Andrew Neil, facing a challenge to reach profitability as it seeks to compete with the BBC and Sky News and fend off a challenge from Rupert Murdoch’s TalkTV.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...ear-broadcast/

Very careless of them. Bigotry isn't profitable thankfully.

1andrew1 09-03-2023 10:57
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36147747)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...ear-broadcast/

Very careless of them. Bigotry isn't profitable thankfully.
It's a bit like the press used to be - a rich man's play thing.

Murdoch to his credit focuses on the bottom line.

Media Boy UK 09-03-2023 16:28
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Will News Crop.'s Talk TV make bid to merge with Loss making GB News? that would help Talk TV with:

*Higher Channel number on Virgin Media.
*Axing the Talk TV's phone ins.

Ever say ever look that what happen in 1990 with Sky and BSB.

Mr K 10-03-2023 07:54
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
They need more content than ranty swivel eyed loon nutters.

Maybe a revival of topless darts, would help the channel?

GrimUpNorth 10-03-2023 08:37
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36147840)
They need more content than ranty swivel eyed loon nutters.

Maybe a revival of topless darts, would help the channel?
The darts didn't stop the inevitable happening to L!VE TV. Some channels are just destined to fail and I think these 2 will join the list sooner or later.

Pierre 10-03-2023 08:59
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
It has some good stuff on there.

The breakfast show is better than the BBC, Sky & ITV

Free speech nation & Headliners are also very good.

I don't watch anything else on the channel but then I don't watch anything on the BBC & Sky news channels at all.

1andrew1 10-03-2023 09:50
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
The days of MPs like Matthew Parris doing the decent thing and stepping down as MPs seem a distant memory. Instead, we're in an era of presenticians where sitting MPs present and discuss the news they want you to hear.

Want to know what your local MP is up to? Check the schedules of Talk TV and GB News?

Want to see an MP fawning over their old boss? Then Nadine Dorries's show is a must-watch for you.

punkrock101 14-03-2023 16:49
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36147788)
Will News Crop.'s Talk TV make bid to merge with Loss making GB News? that would help Talk TV with:

*Higher Channel number on Virgin Media.
*Axing the Talk TV's phone ins.

Ever say ever look that what happen in 1990 with Sky and BSB.
I would think Murdoch would not bother merging Talk TV with GB News, I think he'd rather see them gone.

1andrew1 03-04-2023 21:24
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Ofcom investigates GB News after Tory MPs interview chancellor

GB News is being investigated over a possible breach of impartiality rules, after two senior Conservative MPs interviewed the chancellor before the spring budget on its channel.

Jeremy Hunt sat down for an interview with the former Tory cabinet minister Esther McVey, who is still the MP for Tatton, and her husband, Philip Davies, the MP for Shipley, on Saturday 11 March for their weekly show.

Ofcom has announced that it will investigate whether the show broke the media watchdog’s rules “requiring news and current affairs to be presented with due impartiality”.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...iew-chancellor

Damien 03-04-2023 22:23
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
It's a tad shameless more than anything.

Sephiroth 03-04-2023 22:38
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 

It’s petty.

1andrew1 03-04-2023 22:40
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36149158)
It's a tad shameless more than anything.
I do wonder if it was deliberately done to test Ofcom.

1andrew1 09-05-2023 20:24
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
The errant pupil is called into the headmaster's study for spreading misinformation.
Quote:
GB News summoned to Ofcom meet after new breach

Communications regulator Ofcom has ordered GB News to attend a meeting to discuss its compliance.

It follows an investigation that found an edition of the Mark Steyn programme, first aired on GB News on 4 October 2022, to be in breach of UK broadcasting rules.

The programme included an interview with the feminist author, journalist and conspiracy theorist Naomi Wolf. During the interview, Dr Wolf made serious claims about the Covid-19 vaccine, including that its rollout amounted to a pre-meditated crime – “mass murder” – and was comparable to the actions of “doctors in pre-Nazi Germany”.

Ofcom received 422 complaints about the interview with correspondents alleging the comments were “dangerous” and included “misinformation” that went “unopposed”.

The regulator’s investigation concluded that GB News fell short of this requirement by allowing Dr Wolf to promote a serious conspiracy theory without challenge or context – for example through other contributions in the programme or by the presenter, who appeared to support many of her comments.
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2023...er-new-breach/

Pierre 09-05-2023 20:55
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36151523)
The errant pupil is called into the headmaster's study for spreading misinformation.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2023...er-new-breach/
It’s not an “new breach” though is it. It’s Old news. The decision was made in March, from a programme aired in October last year and Steyn has long since left.

Any actions now are superfluous.

1andrew1 10-05-2023 08:11
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36151526)
It’s not an “new breach” though is it. It’s Old news. The decision was made in March, from a programme aired in October last year and Steyn has long since left.

Any actions now are superfluous.
It's a poor headline.

GB News have acted proactively here by sacking that muppett but they can doubtless expect a lecture.

Pierre 26-05-2023 22:33
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
The general vocal minority say one thing, and silent majority say the other, type scenario.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/othe...x6O?li=BBoPRmx

Hugh 27-05-2023 00:28
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Most loved, but not most watched…

https://www.barb.co.uk/viewing-data/...ed-programmes/

Most watched programmes BARB 08 May - 14 May Top 50 watched programmes

Quote:
21 BBC WEEKEND NEWS (SUN 22:02) BBC 1 (inc HD) BBC 3,615,000
23 BBC NEWS AT SIX (MON 18:00) BBC 1 (inc HD) BBC 3,407,000
24 BBC NEWS AT SIX (TUE 18:00) BBC 1 (inc HD) BBC 3,404,000
30 BBC NEWS AT SIX (THU 18:00) BBC 1 (inc HD) BBC 3,195,000
32 BBC NEWS AT SIX (WED 18:00) BBC 1 (inc HD) BBC 3,166,000
35 BBC NEWS AT SIX (FRI 18:00) BBC 1 (inc HD) BBC 2,961,000
36 BBC WEEKEND NEWS (SAT 24:16) BBC 1 (inc HD) BBC 2,896,000
39 BBC NEWS AT TEN (MON 22:00) BBC 1 (inc HD) BBC 2,698,000
41 BBC NEWS AT TEN (WED 22:00) BBC 1 (inc HD) BBC 2,686,000
44 ITV EVENING NEWS (MON 18:12) ITV1/Breakfast Total ITV 2,507,000
45 BBC NEWS AT TEN (TUE 22:12) BBC 1 (inc HD) BBC 2,506,000
46 BBC NEWS AT TEN (THU 22:12) BBC 1 (inc HD) BBC 2,500,000
50 ITV EVENING NEWS (FRI 18:30) ITV1/Breakfast Total ITV 2,456,000

SVOD service programme ratings are based on TV-set viewing only and represent the average audience achieved during the calendar week.
And if they mean the channel brand survey, rather than the viewing figures….

https://5043860.fs1.hubspotuserconte...sfp=3490333560

GBNews - 53
Sky - 10
ITV - 12
BBC - 14
C4 - 23
C5 - 47

Damien 27-05-2023 07:54
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36152816)
The general vocal minority say one thing, and silent majority say the other, type scenario.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/othe...x6O?li=BBoPRmx
This is the vocal minority though? Fewer people watch GB News but of those who do they're more likely to be loyal to it. Which makes sense as GB News is more of an active choice to watch as opposed to the BBC that people just use as the default.

Also BBC and Sky aren't ranked as 'news' in the survey. They're both ranked higher than GB News under 'Television' but since GB News sits alone as a dedicated news channel they are not directly compared.

jonbxx 30-05-2023 09:11
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36152825)
This is the vocal minority though? Fewer people watch GB News but of those who do they're more likely to be loyal to it. Which makes sense as GB News is more of an active choice to watch as opposed to the BBC that people just use as the default.

Also BBC and Sky aren't ranked as 'news' in the survey. They're both ranked higher than GB News under 'Television' but since GB News sits alone as a dedicated news channel they are not directly compared.
Yeah, it’s a strange one how the brands are categorised. GB News is indeed the highest ranked news brand and 53rd highest media brand but the other ‘news’ brands were all newspapers with the Guardian at 54, The Sun at 63 and City AM at 70.

Sephiroth 28-06-2023 19:30
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 

You might imagine that I'd be the first to herald the two awards that GB News received at yesterday's TRIC event.

You'll have seen on the news that Farage was booed and in mid speech, hustled of the stage.

It's clear to me that BBC/ITV, CH4, SKY etc want to control the news.

Well done GB News.

richard-john56 28-06-2023 19:52
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
GB News is awful - well done the audience for booing and getting that Farage thing off the stage.

Sephiroth 28-06-2023 20:03
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by richard-john56 (Post 36154819)
GB News is awful - well done the audience for booing and getting that Farage thing off the stage.
Perhaps you'll name some other people whom you might describe as "things".

Mr K 28-06-2023 20:29
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36154817)

You might imagine that I'd be the first to herald the two awards that GB News received at yesterday's TRIC event.

You'll have seen on the news that Farage was booed and in mid speech, hustled of the stage.

It's clear to me that BBC/ITV, CH4, SKY etc want to control the news.

Well done GB News.
What was Nige nominated for? Was his award phallic shaped?

They need to up their game on weather forecasts, still terrible.

Sephiroth 28-06-2023 20:33
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36154821)
What was Nige nominated for? Was his award phallic shaped?

They need to up their game on weather forecasts, still terrible.
Best News Presenter on Television.

Mr K 28-06-2023 20:54
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36154822)
Best News Presenter on Television.
Huw Edwards will be livid !

Mick 01-07-2023 11:26
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by richard-john56 (Post 36154819)
GB News is awful - well done the audience for booing and getting that Farage thing off the stage.
So awful that hundreds of thousands of people pipped GBNews to two awards, beating GMB, all thanks to allowing power to the people voting & not woke or lefty judges on a panel in TRIC, bet they won’t do it the same next year. ;)

Mr K 01-07-2023 12:09
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36154966)
So awful that hundreds of thousands of people pipped GBNews to two awards, beating GMB, all thanks to allowing power to the people voting & not woke or lefty judges on a panel in TRIC, bet they won’t do it the same next year. ;)
Did you vote a lot of times Mick ? ;)

Itshim 01-07-2023 17:08
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36154966)
So awful that hundreds of thousands of people pipped GBNews to two awards, beating GMB, all thanks to allowing power to the people voting & not woke or lefty judges on a panel in TRIC, bet they won’t do it the same next year. ;)
Starting to watch GB news more and more, stilling missing CNN :erm:

Pierre 02-07-2023 20:52
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
As I’ve said on here many times,


The breakfast show is the best on tv.

And Headliners & Free Speech Nation are very entertaining, especially Headliners.

1andrew1 02-07-2023 22:28
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
I'm just there for the south Wales adverts for gold buying, farm vehicles and Nissans. They Remind me of the local curry house adverts at my local ABC cinema from my childhood. :D

Pierre 02-07-2023 22:43
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36155136)
I'm just there for the south Wales adverts for gold buying, farm vehicles and Nissans. They Remind me of the local curry house adverts at my local ABC cinema from my childhood. :D
I’m love the Jenkins Garden advert featuring the Rugby referee.

But your right, why does all of GB news advertising revenue originate from south wales?

Sephiroth 02-07-2023 23:08
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36155136)
I'm just there for the south Wales adverts for gold buying, farm vehicles and Nissans. They Remind me of the local curry house adverts at my local ABC cinema from my childhood. :D
I'm there for Farage and Dan Wooton.

1andrew1 03-07-2023 12:23
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
I think Ress-Mogg has a case to answer. Claiming money from the State for being an MP whilst being paid as a newsreader by GB News. He needs to work out where he sits.

Quote:
Ofcom has launched a new broadcast standards investigation into an episode of Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg’s GB News show which addressed a court case involving Donald Trump.

The media watchdog has said it received 40 complaints objecting to the MP for North East Somerset acting as a newsreader during his State Of The Nation show on May 9 as politicians are prevented from this role unless it is “editorially justified”.

The investigation will look at whether the GB News programme abided by these guidelines when it reported on a civil trial verdict reached that day on the former US president.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...16ecb954&ei=15

Pierre 03-07-2023 14:22
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36155156)
I think Ress-Mogg has a case to answer. Claiming money from the State for being an MP whilst being paid as a newsreader by GB News. He needs to work out where he sits.


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...16ecb954&ei=15
as long as he declared his second job then there is no case to answer. lots of MPs have second jobs.

Personally I'd ban MPs from having second jobs

1andrew1 03-07-2023 14:30
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36155167)
as long as he declared his second job then there is no case to answer. lots of MPs have second jobs.

Personally I'd ban MPs from having second jobs
It's not about second jobs it's about democratic accountability. I don't want to limit MPs' connection with the real world but having MPs present and discuss the news in their own programmes is undemocratic. The conflict of interest is huge and more at home in North Korea than Northern Europe.

MPs should be guests on TV programmes where they are held to account for their actions.

Pierre 03-07-2023 14:33
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36155168)
It's not about second jobs it's about democratic accountability. I don't want to limit MPs' connection with the real world but having MPs present and discuss the news in their own programmes is undemocratic. The conflict of interest is huge and more at home in North Korea than Northern Europe.

MPs should be guests on TV programmes where they are held to account for their actions.
I'm afraid you lost the room with "North Korea"

Sephiroth 03-07-2023 15:32
Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36155168)
It's not about second jobs it's about democratic accountability. I don't want to limit MPs' connection with the real world but having MPs present and discuss the news in their own programmes is undemocratic. The conflict of interest is huge and more at home in North Korea than Northern Europe.

MPs should be guests on TV programmes where they are held to account for their actions.

"Undemocratic" is not having a fair voting system; suppressing opinions that don't support the ruling party.

"Conflict of interest" is not a valid charge against Rees-Mogg. Where is the conflict? Is he saying one thing on GB News, another in Parliament and yet another to his constituents?

You've got this wrong, Andrew. You might not like politicians having their own programme sloe (including David Lammy on LBC), but you're finding it difficult to place a valid wrongdoing here.


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