Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Old people are and don't you forget it.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/29/there...down-12778341/
Well that's told him.

Mind you, she can talk, I'm still waiting police to interview her about her 'running through the fields of wheat' admission.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Locky Locky

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2020/05/3.gif

Re: Coronavirus
 

Seeing that this also involves Coronavirus here is the confirmation that the Dominic Cummings row has had a considerable effect in the latest opinion poll after polling by Opinium for the Observer.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ings-should-go

Re: Coronavirus
 

I knew there was no way, with the other thread locked, a tenuous link would not be found to mention him here ;)

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Unlocked - Sorry! Forgot to unlock it there.

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My bad :dunce:

Re: Coronavirus
 

Exactly. Just to point out Tories on 43% in this Guardian poll, Tories won 80 seat majority on this percentage point.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Labour MP resigns from frontbench after breaching lockdown with married lover


Canterbury MP Rosie Duffield has quit her role as Labour whip after admitting to breaking coronavirus lockdown rules and meeting her married partner for a "long walk"

Let the outrage begin.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...after-22114459




The paper also claims Ms Duffield, 48, did not deny that she had allowed him to visit her home in Canterbury during the coronavirus lockdown.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

No need for outrage.

She’s done the right thing by resigning rather then hang around undermining party credibility.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Exactly she broke the rules so she had no option to resign as one should lead by example and obey lockdown rules like the rest of the country did for 9 weeks.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

No need for outrage when it's not a Tory,She hung on until she was exposed by journalists and then had no other option but to resign.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

I think the outrage should be the story doesn't seem to be on the BBC news website (not in a prominent position I can find anyway)!

However, this is just another example of people who should know better. It's good that she jumped but part of me wishes she hadn't as it would have been good to see if Kier would have been good to his word and sacked her as a whip.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

The Guardian seems to have missed the story as well.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Shame on them too.

Re: Coronavirus
 

Labour are up a lot higher though so a similar percentage point for them would result in a hung Parliament.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Actually it is mentioned in this article.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...top-scientists

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

She has resigned.

Do you want me to be outraged that she resigned? That’s not really appropriate tbh.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Hidden den,it's hidden in another article.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Unless she was informed she needed to jump before she was pushed. Still, at least she did go.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

No i don't expect standards just carry on as normal.

It took a few weeks but after she was caught out she jumped before she was pushed, had she not been exposed i guess she would have just carried on regardless.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

l am certainly not outraged but disappointed like many are that those in positions higher up have a duty to lead by example and obey the lockdown rules like the rest of us.

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l was trying to answer the question papa you posed.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

My standards are carrying on as normal.

Are you now saying Dom should give resigned, or that she shouldn’t have? It’s certainly an inconsistency that some have to reconcile but not me.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

1 Re your standards,i can confirm they are at the usual level.
2 She is a sitting MP who only resigned as a last resort after she was exposed,she didn't own up until the story hit the papers.
3 Dom is just an adviser not a member of the gov or any political party,he's had a bollocking as is the norm when an employee steps out of line.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Evidence, please, of his employer bollocking him?

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Boris Johnson gives Dominic Cummings final warning after COVID-19 lockdown row
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...mings-lockdown

A senior Downing Street source told the Mail on Sunday: “Dom’s been firmly put in his place.”

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Fair point.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

'A Downing St source' that is probably Cummings himself :D

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

But the "senior Downing Street source" is Dom :) Two personalities in one!

Just watched the Lords of the Rings: The Two Towers and Gollum reminded me of someone:

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

I love the way people think that nobody broke lockdown rules. I bet loads did.

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Of course He would have, she’s expendable.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

The rest of the country did no such thing.

Plenty of people did, but to claim that “the country” did, with the exception of a very few famous/important people, is blatant nonsense, as the news photos almost every day of the week for the past two months have shown.

I’m lucky enough to live in a beauty spot, and flagrant disregard of the continuing lockdown rules in Scotland forced the police to start closing roads yesterday to prevent the area getting overcrowded.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Straw man alert. Nobody sincerely believes there’s 100% adherence to lockdown rules. It’s self evidently ridiculous to claim there is.

What is important is the double standards for people in leadership to tell the masses to do one thing while flouting their rules themselves.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

I think you'll find that's nothing new :D

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

l think you know exactly what l meant as no one is claiming that there was a 100% compliance with the lockdown rules as of course not everybody abided by the lockdown rules..

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Indeed, but we are permitted to get pissed off from time to time about it in a healthy democracy. :D

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

However you would expect those that made the rules, those 'in charge', to set an example and follow them religiously.Which they haven't - Jenrick, Cummings...

Lockdown's certainly finished around here and not being enforced. Grand kids staying with grandparents overnight etc. People now feel they have carte blanche as a result of Cummings. Lets hope in a few weeks time we aren't back at square one.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

A point lost on most, he is the hired help and not an elected representative. It is also debatable whether he has had anything to shape government policy on the pandemic, which has been led by the CMO and CSA.

Cummings is the Brexit man, that is the reason tn PM wants in and the media want him out

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

A “hired help” is an interesting synonym for a political strategist.

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I’m quite looking forward to going back to square one to be honest, it’ll expose Government failings and crash the economy more than at present. We’ve got more cases and recorded deaths than when we went into lockdown.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

I wonder how many Cummings' supporters feel that she should not have resigned?

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Our Dom doesn’t do planning permission or council tax for second homes apparently.

https://universalcreditsuffer.com/20...o-council-tax/

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I’d hazard a guess that it’s probably less than one per cent. Between 0.7 and 1 but couldn’t definitively say.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Thank you.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

:tu:

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Oh, come on! More witch hunts!

Who amongst us hasn't build an additional dwelling on land they've co-owned with their sister and father, and accidently overlooked the requirement to ask for planning permission or paid Council Tax on it?

It could have happened to anyone...

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Me and my brother used to put a tent up sometimes in the rear garden of mum & dads council semi . . . and we once built a (crap) tree house on land that didn't belong to us.

I'm gonna plead guilty and hope the statute of limitations has me covered ;)

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Hang on now, you will be claiming next that Cummings' support for Eugenics:

Advocating Eugenics in the UK Department of Education

is driven by his Father-in-Law's similarly bizarre views:

Shocking quote by Dominic Cummings’ father-in-law goes viral

Clip of Dominic Cummings's father-in-law discussing genes goes viral

I mean, isn't he is just one of us at the end of the day? Not different at all ..

His integrity, honesty and regard for the wellbeing of the entire population is beyond reproach ...

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

From the FT, 30th March 2020

And in his own words And he also attended six SAGE meetings in March, April, and May, which provide scientific advice to support government decision makers during emergencies - I assume his findings from these meetings influenced policy, and if not, why was he attending?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-sage-members/

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

I think what Hugh is trying to say is Dom has saved us all from the plague from the EU and the Labour party we all owe him our gratitude maybe a clap at 8 oclock tonight ,what a hero :clap:

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Because he is a director and producer who has done extensive work for the beeb. Including the documentary Brexit-Who's in charge. ;)

LINKAGE

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Just looks like another (self) important person I've never heard of :shrug:

He'll have to try a lot harder than that if he wants to appear with Ant & Dec :D

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

I'd have thought bozo was the fat one, so who is his real master :Yikes:

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

:D

It would appear that her "resignation" is symbolic. She was appointed as a whip on April 14 and it appears that the position attracts no additional allowance.*
She therefore has sacrificed absolutely nothing.

Now if she or any other lockdown breaking MPs actually want to resign as an MP, then no-one could really say that Cummings should stay.

*I stand to be corrected :)

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

At a loose end on Sundays are you?

He may be “in contact” and attend meeting left right and center - I would expect him to, but you think he’s leading the government response to the pandemic?

You obviously think he’s more talented than I do.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

The beeb are now running the story.....HERE

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

"I apologise that during that process, we breached the guidelines. A relationship breakdown is difficult at the best of times, let alone during a pandemic."


yes it's not easy seducing someone else's husband in a lockdown ........

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Thank you for papasplaining - feel free to give Dom your clap... ;)

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It’s interesting that you believe the PM’s Chief Advisor doesn’t have a major input* to Coronavirus policy or tactical responses, and other areas of policy...

*no one said "leading" until you tried your straw man argument to move the goal posts from "It is also debatable whether he has had anything to shape government policy on the pandemic"

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

I’m tired of the pettiness on display in this thread.

I’ve had enough. This thread closes tonight for good.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

So I was right all along. You really do want to see our economy wrecked and our public services collapse.

The reason for your views now fully explained! :no:

On the whole, the government has done a pretty good job. This has been a hellish problem to deal with, at a time when the government was trying to deal with Brexit issues and putting this country onto a better footing following the period of austerity. Most people who criticise them are trying to be wise after the event. Others wanted a full scale lockdown from the start, even though any lockdown could not be sustained for long and would have resulted in the measures being breached more and more at the most critical time.

And through the crisis we have people carping on about relatively minor issues, such as the Cummings affair when the police are not even that sure he actually committed an offence. What kind of pedantic and picky society are we becoming? Thank heavens Mick is closing this thread down. I am not alone in saying I am thoroughly sick and tired of all this pettiness.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Sarcasm evidently lost on you.

On the contrary, I've consistently said what needs to be done, but if people disagree, don't want to listen or politicians want to ignore reality then there's only so much others can do. These decisions have deadly consequences, just like Herd Immunity Week back in March.

I'm assuming this line is for comedy value.

I too look forward to the thread closing, it's becoming tiresome watching Pierre, papa smurf and yourself defend Cummings at all costs. If forum members cannot display any objectivity, and continue to beatify Cummings and the Conservatives because of Brexit, then discussion is pretty much futile.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Looking forward to this evening when this particular thread is closed.