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paul0363 02-06-2020 23:48

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36038128)
Amazon prime is a odd one BT, Plusnet and Talktalk have it yet vm and SKY don't. One suspects that will change in time though.

I think you'll find that VM does have Amazon Prime on the V6

Legendkiller2k 03-06-2020 02:13

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Originally Posted by paul0363 (Post 36038130)
I think you'll find that VM does have Amazon Prime on the V6

Been ages since i had VM as not available in my new home yet, but that is relly good news hopefully they'll get Disney+ next.

johnasimmons 03-06-2020 08:32

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Shame you can't get Amazon Prime on the TiVo...

cheekyangus 03-06-2020 08:47

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36038075)
My5 is finally available! You may need to re-boot your box.

Still no sign of Pluto TV and All4.

From other thread. Added My5 addition as relevant. Thanks SonicMaster.

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I can confirm the addition of the app, I have it here on my V6.

johnasimmons 03-06-2020 08:49

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36038136)
From other thread. Added My5 addition as relevant. Thanks SonicMaster.

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I can confirm the addition of the app, I have it here on my V6.

Is the app only on the V6?

denphone 03-06-2020 08:55

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Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 36038138)
Is the app only on the V6?

As far as l know it is.

cheekyangus 03-06-2020 09:17

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Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 36038138)
Is the app only on the V6?

No idea, but probably.

Given how slow it is on older streaming sticks it's probably for the best, My5 app is much nicer experience on V6.

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The Red Button prompt on Channel 5 still goes to old VM-hosted on-demand. Maybe a reboot is required to sort this.

For now I will just access via Apps&Games menus.

Legendkiller2k 03-06-2020 13:34

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Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 36038138)
Is the app only on the V6?

Imo mate you're prob better off getting a ROKU if you want the on demand services, ok it's another device but at least you'll have them.
The ROKU Express is £29.99 at moment.

Media Boy UK 03-06-2020 14:41

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36037931)
Challenge +1 was closed down early on VM. It was supposed to close at 6am, but a close down slate was being radiated by at least 5am. The Sky feed was still broadcasting at approximately 9am, so they still had access to the feed.

Sony Crime Channel will close at 6am on 10/6/20.

We can confirm at Challenge +1 was axe by Virgin Media UK at approximately 00.02am on Sunday Night.

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36038030)
Interesting. Many thanks japitts.

I still have E4 HD and More4 HD last time I looked too, and they aren't normally on my TV tier, so maybe something is changing. There was that accidental email/website info release that mentioned All4 app alongside Pluto and My5 recently, maybe Channel 4 have a new VM deal?

If Channel 4 has signed an new deal with Virgin we feel the following changes may happen:

104. Channel 4 HD (London only)
104. Channel 4 (Outside London)
106. E4 to close for BBC Three HD to make the rumour relaunch
141. Channel 4 HD (Outside London)
142. Channel 4 +1
143. 4Seven to close but slot to be reuse for 4Seven HD
144. E4 HD
145. E4 +1
146. More4 HD
147. More4 +1.

fox35 03-06-2020 15:16

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Re My5 App..
Does the Search function on the V6 not search content in the apps? I was searching for Bad Lieutenant (1992 Harvey Keitel version) which I know is available in the Pluto Movies sub section of the My5 app, but the V6 is only listing the Amazon Prime for availability. Thought the V6 searched across all channels and apps for requested searches?

figgyburn 03-06-2020 15:25

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Agree with vincerooney about wolf blitzer being comedy gold on Cnn news.But the picture quality sucks big time.Surely Cnn cannot be asking for a huge sum of money to broadcast hd rather than sd on virgin?.Anybody know the viewing figures for these us/international news channels on virgin?.

cheekyangus 03-06-2020 15:26

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Originally Posted by fox35 (Post 36038200)
Re My5 App..
Does the Search function on the V6 not search content in the apps? I was searching for Bad Lieutenant (1992 Harvey Keitel version) which I know is available in the Pluto Movies sub section of the My5 app, but the V6 is only listing the Amazon Prime for availability. Thought the V6 searched across all channels and apps for requested searches?

I haven't tried it yet, but maybe a reboot would fix the integration?

Joedm45 03-06-2020 16:33

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36038172)
Imo mate you're prob better off getting a ROKU if you want the on demand services, ok it's another device but at least you'll have them.
The ROKU Express is £29.99 at moment.

I jumped on the Roku train too, managed to get the Express for £20. Best £20 in tech I've spent for a long time, all main streamers and catch up services in one box.

Also, you can normally get the 4K Premiere for £30 too, my next investment when I get a 4K TV, if it doesn't have all the apps I need of course :)

BenMcr 03-06-2020 20:30

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Originally Posted by fox35 (Post 36038200)
Re My5 App..
Does the Search function on the V6 not search content in the apps? I was searching for Bad Lieutenant (1992 Harvey Keitel version) which I know is available in the Pluto Movies sub section of the My5 app, but the V6 is only listing the Amazon Prime for availability. Thought the V6 searched across all channels and apps for requested searches?

It does do so, where the app allows it. But there are technical reasons why it doesn't always work. For instance for the iPlayer app, the TiVo search can't see the boxset and archive content.

Potentially as the Channel 5 content is split between Virgin's On Demand service and the app it's not possible to have the search split in that way. Or that it will come once it's confirmed that everyone has the app on their V6 box.

KingFry 03-06-2020 20:45

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36038186)
We can confirm at Challenge +1 was axe by Virgin Media UK at approximately 00.02am on Sunday Night.

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If Channel 4 has signed an new deal with Virgin we feel the following changes may happen:

104. Channel 4 HD (London only)
104. Channel 4 (Outside London)
106. E4 to close for BBC Three HD to make the rumour relaunch
141. Channel 4 HD (Outside London)
142. Channel 4 +1
143. 4Seven to close but slot to be reuse for 4Seven HD
144. E4 HD
145. E4 +1
146. More4 HD
147. More4 +1.

C4 paid VM a lot of money to get E4 on channel 106. It won’t be going back to BBC3.

cheekyangus 03-06-2020 21:35

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Originally Posted by KingFry (Post 36038244)
C4 paid VM a lot of money to get E4 on channel 106. It won’t be going back to BBC3.

No contract is ever "for all time" and they left the old channel number free ever since, almost like they expected they may need to reverse it. It's not impossible.

KingFry 03-06-2020 21:49

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36038255)
No contract is ever "for all time" and they left the old channel number free ever since, almost like they expected they may need to reverse it. It's not impossible.

Not impossible but it makes no business sense.

Why would they ‘need’ to reverse it? Because the BBC say ‘oops we screwed up can we have that prime channel number back we gave up years ago, which now hosts one of our main rivals who have paid you handsomely for it and you have no obligation whatsoever to hand back to us?’

cheekyangus 03-06-2020 22:32

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Originally Posted by KingFry (Post 36038260)
Not impossible but it makes no business sense.

Why would they ‘need’ to reverse it? Because the BBC say ‘oops we screwed up can we have that prime channel number back we gave up years ago, which now hosts one of our main rivals who have paid you handsomely for it and you have no obligation whatsoever to hand back to us?’

OFCOM ruled that certain PSB channels should have EPG prominence, and the rules come into force January 2021. If BBC3 returns it probably will qualify.
https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/07/how-...-you-find.html

fox35 04-06-2020 07:59

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36038238)
It does do so, where the app allows it. But there are technical reasons why it doesn't always work. For instance for the iPlayer app, the TiVo search can't see the boxset and archive content.

Potentially as the Channel 5 content is split between Virgin's On Demand service and the app it's not possible to have the search split in that way. Or that it will come once it's confirmed that everyone has the app on their V6 box.

So, if the whole search feature for content by program title, genre, etc does not apply accross searching the multiple stand alone apps, why does Netflix or Prime show in the search results and not in My5, iplayer etc? Have Netflix and Prime done a deal with VM to display their titles next to the linear channels in the tivo search results?

BenMcr 04-06-2020 08:42

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Both Netflix and Prime Video are on TiVo in multiple countries including the US, so if I had to guess, it's that they have working with TiVo to set up appropriate bits within their app for it to work.

Netflix has been around so long on TiVo that it has it's own part of the Settings menu!

I would think similar work will have been done when the iPlayer app came to Virgin Media, as part of the BBC's requirement that it was the only place to hold Catch Up for Connected devices. If they mandated that Virgin Media could only have the app on TiVo, the BBC would need to ensure TiVo could see content within the apps. But that's then the likely reason why newer features of iPlayer don't appear in the searches at the moment - original iPlayer was Catch Up only, so that's all TiVo sees.

However all of those apps, and the VM Store too, are 'clean' sources of content e.g. Netflix is it's own source of content. Whereas content that's in My5 exists both within the app itself and within VM On Demand and Catch Up, but only exists in that way on the V6.

So Virgin Media can't for instance, swap all On Demand for 5 across to the app as it's not on TiVo. But on the V6 if both the app and On Demand existed, you'd get two included sources of the same thing.

I've thought it's the same reason why the ITV app content doesn't yet show. Not only may you have the above, but you've also got the ITV / STV apps which will hold different content depending if you're in Scotland or not, which is another added complexity

I'm sure that once Virgin Media can work all this out with the broadcasters, then they'll appear properly. But that's a combination of work from both sides.

KingFry 04-06-2020 09:01

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36038270)
OFCOM ruled that certain PSB channels should have EPG prominence, and the rules come into force January 2021. If BBC3 returns it probably will qualify.
https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/07/how-...-you-find.html

Yes it will have to be within the first 24 channel numbers, it’s no more likely to be on 106 than any other channel.

Getting rid of those SD channels in the first 24 slots would make VM’s life easier.

BBC3 will most likely end up on 107. BBC4 will close completely.

SonicMaster 04-06-2020 09:56

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36038282)
I'm sure that once Virgin Media can work all this out with the broadcasters, then they'll appear properly. But that's a combination of work from both sides.

VM claim that My5 is included in the integrated search:

David Bouchier, Chief Digital Entertainment Officer at Virgin Media, added: “The My5 app will give our customers access to even more great content and the integrated search will make it easier to find the shows that they love most. This is all part of providing our customers with the most streamlined experience possible with all of their favourite programmes and apps in one place.”

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2020...-virgin-media/

RichardCoulter 04-06-2020 10:19

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Originally Posted by KingFry (Post 36038283)
Yes it will have to be within the first 24 channel numbers, it’s no more likely to be on 106 than any other channel.

Getting rid of those SD channels in the first 24 slots would make VM’s life easier.

BBC3 will most likely end up on 107. BBC4 will close completely.

The BBC have specifically said that BBC4 will not be closing, albeit it that going forward it will be going in a different direction.

KingFry 04-06-2020 13:23

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36038292)
The BBC have specifically said that BBC4 will not be closing, albeit it that going forward it will be going in a different direction.

Just like they said BBC3 was over as a linear channel?

RichardCoulter 04-06-2020 15:46

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Originally Posted by KingFry (Post 36038309)
Just like they said BBC3 was over as a linear channel?

Fair point!

fox35 04-06-2020 15:49

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36038288)
VM claim that My5 is included in the integrated search:

David Bouchier, Chief Digital Entertainment Officer at Virgin Media, added: “The My5 app will give our customers access to even more great content and the integrated search will make it easier to find the shows that they love most. This is all part of providing our customers with the most streamlined experience possible with all of their favourite programmes and apps in one place.”

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2020...-virgin-media/

He lied.

RichardCoulter 04-06-2020 16:06

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Originally Posted by fox35 (Post 36038319)
He lied.

That explains a lot then, attitudes often cascade down from the top to front line workers.

I've just found out about another lie that i've been repeatedly told.by the staff at that foreign call centre.

I have been getting pixelation and was reassured time and time again that I would not be charged until it was sorted out. Now that it has, the line has changed to "we only stop charging for a complete loss of TV service"! I explained that it's pointless watching a programme with chunks missing or the ending chopped off, but they are now either playing dumb or being deliberately obtuse. You'd get more sense and information out of a Chatbot!

Another complaint will be being made to their regulator. No doubt the phone calls won't have been recorded, it's funny how the ones that benefit the customer never are ;)

I have been refused details of the notes on my account, so need to contact the Information Commissioner too.

vincerooney 04-06-2020 19:20

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Originally Posted by KingFry (Post 36038309)
Just like they said BBC3 was over as a linear channel?

i never understood why they closed bbc 3 down in the first place. BBC1 - entertainment BBC2 - mainly factual programs BBC3- young adults i.e. the future of the license fee.

I understand they think people who watch BBC3 are techies so watch more streaming shows but BBC2 and BBC4 in my eyes were far too similar! The content on BBC4 could easily be moved onto BBC2

OLD BOY 04-06-2020 20:07

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36038346)
i never understood why they closed bbc 3 down in the first place. BBC1 - entertainment BBC2 - mainly factual programs BBC3- young adults i.e. the future of the license fee.

I understand they think people who watch BBC3 are techies so watch more streaming shows but BBC2 and BBC4 in my eyes were far too similar! The content on BBC4 could easily be moved onto BBC2

The Beeb were very careless over the BBC3 change. It is far too early to put this channel on demand only and they have learned this lesson the hard way.

They need to have a co-ordinated strategy for all their channels - it is a mistake to just single out one channel for special treatment in this way.

Later in the decade, when the majority of viewers are more comfortable with on demand viewing as the main way they watch TV, and their on demand platforms are made easier to use, they will need to dilute the programmes on the scheduled traditional channels and also provide further inducements (including most of their new programming) to ensure that people can see advantages to moving to VOD. When the time is right, they would need to close down all the channels at the same time.

cheekyangus 04-06-2020 20:59

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Well not all the channels, some programming needs to be live.
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I don't find BBC4 and BBC2 too similar, the former is arts, history and science, the latter is lifestyle, niche entertainment and miscellaneous factual.

Mr K 04-06-2020 21:03

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36038350)
The Beeb were very careless over the BBC3 change.

Yes, they listened to some mad man who insisted on demand was the future and linear TV was dead ;)

denphone 04-06-2020 21:17

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36038358)
Yes, they listened to some mad man who insisted on demand was the future and linear TV was dead ;)

He does move those goalposts a lot as they get so confused they don't know which end of the pitch to go to now.;)

OLD BOY 05-06-2020 07:06

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36038357)
Well not all the channels, some programming needs to be live.
----
I don't find BBC4 and BBC2 too similar, the former is arts, history and science, the latter is lifestyle, niche entertainment and miscellaneous factual.

You can already watch live on the BBC i-Player, cheeky.

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36038358)
Yes, they listened to some mad man who insisted on demand was the future and linear TV was dead ;)

Except they got ahead of themselves and didn't have a proper plan.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36038361)
He does move those goalposts a lot as they get so confused they don't know which end of the pitch to go to now.;)

It's 2020, not 2035, Den. Wait for it!

cheekyangus 05-06-2020 08:48

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36038381)
You can already watch live on the BBC i-Player, cheeky.

I know. However, not everyone has internet, let alone decent enough internet.

And even in properties with good enough internet, there can be problems with distribution within them. You can usually get TV signals in places with problem wifi. Powerline plugs don't work everywhere.

Raider999 05-06-2020 11:24

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36038385)
I know. However, not everyone has internet, let alone decent enough internet.

And even in properties with good enough internet, there can be problems with distribution within them. You can usually get TV signals in places with problem wifi. Powerline plugs don't work everywhere.


As someone who visits a lot of elderly people's home for work, I can say

A) there are a lot of old people
B) at least 50% of those rely on standard linear TV programs
C) many have no access to broadband in their homes

I think this is because of the high cost of cable/satellite and broadband

These are 3 reasons why linear TV will continue for a long time yet.

OLD BOY 05-06-2020 13:55

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36038385)
I know. However, not everyone has internet, let alone decent enough internet.

And even in properties with good enough internet, there can be problems with distribution within them. You can usually get TV signals in places with problem wifi. Powerline plugs don't work everywhere.

I agree, but the government has a programme for internet access to be delivered throughout the country. I do not see any big change before that is completed.

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36038428)
As someone who visits a lot of elderly people's home for work, I can say

A) there are a lot of old people
B) at least 50% of those rely on standard linear TV programs
C) many have no access to broadband in their homes

I think this is because of the high cost of cable/satellite and broadband

These are 3 reasons why linear TV will continue for a long time yet.

So, already, about 50% are using VOD. That is very encoraging - I thought it would be lower than that as this stage.

Yes, access to the internet must be vastly improved before any transmitter signals are ceased. We are probably a decade away from that situation, but it could come quicker if the internet companies pull their fingers out.

Raider999 05-06-2020 14:10

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36038453)
I agree, but the government has a programme for internet access to be delivered throughout the country. I do not see any big change before that is completed.

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So, already, about 50% are using VOD. That is very encoraging - I thought it would be lower than that as this stage.

Yes, access to the internet must be vastly improved before any transmitter signals are ceased. We are probably a decade away from that situation, but it could come quicker if the internet companies pull their fingers out.

You are missing the point, it doesn't matter that broadband speeds are to be increased across the country - if you cannot afford what is currently on offer how are you going to afford a higher speed which will come at a higher cost?

This is not going to change in the next 20-30 years unless broadband is treated as a right similar to water. Or are you expecting super fast broadband to be free to all?

I said at least 50% pensioners are only using linear TV - as I didn't want to put a figure on it and have the likes of you dispute it.

Doesn't equate to 50% using VOD which you are surprised at by your own admission. Please don't twist my words to suit your argument.

Mad Max 05-06-2020 14:35

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36038459)
You are missing the point, it doesn't matter that broadband speeds are to be increased across the country - if you cannot afford what is currently on offer how are you going to afford a higher speed which will come at a higher cost?

This is not going to change in the next 20-30 years unless broadband is treated as a right similar to water. Or are you expecting super fast broadband to be free to all?

I said at least 50% pensioners are only using linear TV - as I didn't want to put a figure on it and have the likes of you dispute it.

Doesn't equate to 50% using VOD which you are surprised at by your own admission. Please don't twist my words to suit your argument.

My thoughts on this are that when BB becomes available to every household we may well see the likes of pensioners, and people on low incomes, being given discounts or maybe even free to those who cannot afford it.

Raider999 05-06-2020 14:46

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36038464)
My thoughts on this are that when BB becomes available to every household we may well see the likes of pensioners, and people on low incomes, being given discounts or maybe even free to those who cannot afford it.


Really?

As someone on a below average wage and soon to be retired, I sincerely hope you are correct - however I cannot see this happening in the foreseeable future, nice as it would be.

Do you think the same might apply to gas & electric, which after all are basic essentials?

RichardCoulter 05-06-2020 15:20

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36038468)
Really?

As someone on a below average wage and soon to be retired, I sincerely hope you are correct - however I cannot see this happening in the foreseeable future, nice as it would be.

Do you think the same might apply to gas & electric, which after all are basic essentials?

I certainly think that it's a possibility that pensioners and/or those on low incomes might receive help with obtaining broadband.

Being able to switch off terrestrial signals would save far more than this one off subsidy and help was actually offered to these groups without digital television when analogue TV was switched off.

If they decide not to go down this route, I think that they will probably switch off all Freeview signals apart from the PSB channels.

Depending on their supplier, those deemed to be on low incomes (usually those in receipt of means tested benefits) receive a discount on their gas/electric through the Warm Home Discount Scheme:

https://www.gov.uk/the-warm-home-discount-scheme

More info. on other help here:

https://www.ukpower.co.uk/home_energ...bled-customers

Mad Max 05-06-2020 15:32

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36038468)
Really?

As someone on a below average wage and soon to be retired, I sincerely hope you are correct - however I cannot see this happening in the foreseeable future, nice as it would be.

Do you think the same might apply to gas & electric, which after all are basic essentials?

As Richard said there are already discounts for people on low incomes and the elderly for heating etc, my point about the BB is the same really...

Raider999 05-06-2020 16:20

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36038478)
As Richard said there are already discounts for people on low incomes and the elderly for heating etc, my point about the BB is the same really...


Yes, you can get help with electric and gas bills but your income needs to be well below a living wage to get them.

As for broadband, it is an on-going monthly cost not a one-off as suggested.

I cannot see any government paying for high speed broadband for all on a long term basis.

RichardCoulter 05-06-2020 18:21

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36038488)
Yes, you can get help with electric and gas bills but your income needs to be well below a living wage to get them.

As for broadband, it is an on-going monthly cost not a one-off as suggested.

I cannot see any government paying for high speed broadband for all on a long term basis.

I meant for installation, not ongoing costs. I too doubt that the Government would pay for that. Maybe the poorer members of society will get a subsidy like gas/electric or a no frills cheap option will be offered like some companies already do for phone (for essential calls) and broadband??

If poorer pensioners are still able to get a free TVL (or the TVL no longer exists by the time DTT is switched off), it may be suggested that this offsets some or all of the cost of their broadband??

Raider999 05-06-2020 20:28

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36038510)
I meant for installation, not ongoing costs. I too doubt that the Government would pay for that. Maybe the poorer members of society will get a subsidy like gas/electric or a no frills cheap option will be offered like some companies already do for phone (for essential calls) and broadband??

If poorer pensioners are still able to get a free TVL (or the TVL no longer exists by the time DTT is switched off), it may be suggested that this offsets some or all of the cost of their broadband??



Installation is a minor problem compared with £30-40pm for a reasonable speed broadband.

Most pensioners cannot afford that - I know when I retire my wife will be pushing me to cut the amount I spend on TV, which of course is ironic as I will have a lot more time to watch it.

nomadking 05-06-2020 20:50

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The fragmentation of provision of content is just getting silly, even if people are able to afford the multiple subscriptions involved.

RichardCoulter 05-06-2020 21:02

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36038532)
Installation is a minor problem compared with £30-40pm for a reasonable speed broadband.

Most pensioners cannot afford that - I know when I retire my wife will be pushing me to cut the amount I spend on TV, which of course is ironic as I will have a lot more time to watch it.

Actually, after looking further at the BT basic plan, you do have a point:

https://btplc.com/inclusion/Products...band/index.htm

It's only £10.07 a month, but only covers enough BB to stream one film a month, so not much use to the average person!

When you retire, these deals might be of some use to you:

https://www.broadbandchoices.co.uk/g...nd-for-elderly

OLD BOY 06-06-2020 09:00

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36038459)
You are missing the point, it doesn't matter that broadband speeds are to be increased across the country - if you cannot afford what is currently on offer how are you going to afford a higher speed which will come at a higher cost?

This is not going to change in the next 20-30 years unless broadband is treated as a right similar to water. Or are you expecting super fast broadband to be free to all?

I said at least 50% pensioners are only using linear TV - as I didn't want to put a figure on it and have the likes of you dispute it.

Doesn't equate to 50% using VOD which you are surprised at by your own admission. Please don't twist my words to suit your argument.

I really wasn't - I assumed you knew what you were talking about when you used the 50% figure, which was certainly news to me.

I haven't twisted anything. :confused:

You said at least 50% of pensioners ars using only linear TV. Well, what other kind of TV is there then? If at least 50% are still on linear, then it follows that up to 50% also use VOD. How is that twisting anything? It is simply the other side of your own equation.

On your first points, only the more affluent were able to afford to have a telephone back in the 1960s. However, by the 1980s, practically everyone had one.

Similarly, I expect that practically everyone will have access to broadband in time. It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that a future government might pay for basic broadband speeds for the pensioners, just as they have been paying for the over 75s for their TV licences. Broadband will be considered an essential thing for every household to have before much longer.

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36038464)
My thoughts on this are that when BB becomes available to every household we may well see the likes of pensioners, and people on low incomes, being given discounts or maybe even free to those who cannot afford it.

Agreed, Max. Anyone without broadband in the future will be invisible and practically unable to function in our increasingly digital world.

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36038468)
Really?

As someone on a below average wage and soon to be retired, I sincerely hope you are correct - however I cannot see this happening in the foreseeable future, nice as it would be.

Do you think the same might apply to gas & electric, which after all are basic essentials?

But, with your pensionable status looming, are you seriously thinking of giving up your broadband? Of course not. Any government handouts, if they come, will be based on need, or it would cost a fortune.

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36038488)
Yes, you can get help with electric and gas bills but your income needs to be well below a living wage to get them.

As for broadband, it is an on-going monthly cost not a one-off as suggested.

I cannot see any government paying for high speed broadband for all on a long term basis.

Any subsidy would be likely to be based on basic broadband for streamingt, not high speed broadband, surely.

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36038538)
The fragmentation of provision of content is just getting silly, even if people are able to afford the multiple subscriptions involved.

Except that you only need one subscription at a time. And you can change to a different provider whenever you like. Cheaper than the licence fee.

Hugh 06-06-2020 09:15

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I read the 50% standard linear TV programs as Freeview/Digital TV programs (BBC, ITV, etc,) - that is what my mum- in-law watches. I surmised the other 50% as a mixture of Cable, Sky, & streaming services such as Prime & Netflix.

You thought of the other 50% as VOD - in both cases, confirmation bias appears to be in play (in my case, informed by various seniors that I know viewing habits).

Re the "one subscription at a time" - do you really believe that people will want to be switching all the time, a couple of times a month?

Raider999 06-06-2020 12:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36038573)
I read the 50% standard linear TV programs as Freeview/Digital TV programs (BBC, ITV, etc,) - that is what my mum- in-law watches. I surmised the other 50% as a mixture of Cable, Sky, & streaming services such as Prime & Netflix.

You thought of the other 50% as VOD - in both cases, confirmation bias appears to be in play (in my case, informed by various seniors that I know viewing habits).

Re the "one subscription at a time" - do you really believe that people will want to be switching all the time, a couple of times a month?


Exactly.

OB has always had the idea that people will be forever changing their subscription.

It would be interesting how often people change their satellite/cable subscription - this would give a reasonable indication of people's likely habits in this respect.


And to reply to OB - all outgoing a need to be reviewed, which certainly includes broadband.

My current BB usage is limited to email and browsing the Internet - I can do that on my smartphone so why would I need BB at all, don't really need it now apart from enabling me to watch sport on Sky/BT sports

nomadking 06-06-2020 12:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36038568)
I really wasn't - I assumed you knew what you were talking about when you used the 50% figure, which was certainly news to me.

I haven't twisted anything. :confused:

You said at least 50% of pensioners ars using only linear TV. Well, what other kind of TV is there then? If at least 50% are still on linear, then it follows that up to 50% also use VOD. How is that twisting anything? It is simply the other side of your own equation.

On your first points, only the more affluent were able to afford to have a telephone back in the 1960s. However, by the 1980s, practically everyone had one.

Similarly, I expect that practically everyone will have access to broadband in time. It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that a future government might pay for basic broadband speeds for the pensioners, just as they have been paying for the over 75s for their TV licences. Broadband will be considered an essential thing for every household to have before much longer.

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Agreed, Max. Anyone without broadband in the future will be invisible and practically unable to function in our increasingly digital world.

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But, with your pensionable status looming, are you seriously thinking of giving up your broadband? Of course not. Any government handouts, if they come, will be based on need, or it would cost a fortune.

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Any subsidy would be likely to be based on basic broadband for streamingt, not high speed broadband, surely.

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Except that you only need one subscription at a time. And you can change to a different provider whenever you like. Cheaper than the licence fee.

Netflix, Amazon Prime, Now TV, Apple TV, ITV Hub+, Britbox, All4(no ads), Acorn TV, Disney+, and others. They are the content providers. Not much in the way of interchangeability there.

Legendkiller2k 06-06-2020 12:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36038488)
Yes, you can get help with electric and gas bills but your income needs to be well below a living wage to get them.

As for broadband, it is an on-going monthly cost not a one-off as suggested.

I cannot see any government paying for high speed broadband for all on a long term basis.

BT already do broadband for people on very low incomes nothing fancy only 15gb limit but it exists. https://www.choose.co.uk/guide/bt-ba...-benefits.html

But it won't be much use for streaming etc.

Mad Max 06-06-2020 18:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36038594)
BT already do broadband for people on very low incomes nothing fancy only 15gb limit but it exists. https://www.choose.co.uk/guide/bt-ba...-benefits.html

But it won't be much use for streaming etc.

Wouldn't 15Gb be enough to stream Amazon/Netflix shows? I would have thought that would be more than sufficient.

ozsat 06-06-2020 18:16

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My mother have 20Gb and used it all up watching a couple of tennis matches on Amazon.

nomadking 06-06-2020 18:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36038630)
Wouldn't 15Gb be enough to stream Amazon/Netflix shows? I would have thought that would be more than sufficient.

Quote:

  • Browse the internet for 30 minutes per day, or
  • Watch 2.5 hours of online standard definition TV a week (through services like iPlayer and YouTube), or
  • Play games online for an hour a week


BenMcr 06-06-2020 18:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36038630)
Wouldn't 15Gb be enough to stream Amazon/Netflix shows? I would have thought that would be more than sufficient.

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/87
Quote:

Watching TV shows or movies on Netflix uses about 1 GB of data per hour for each stream of standard definition video, and up to 3 GB per hour for each stream of HD video

cheekyangus 06-06-2020 19:43

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I'm think Max read that as 15mb and was thinking speed rather than download limit.

Raider999 06-06-2020 19:45

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Just seen an ad for plusnet broadband with unlimited download for £17.99pm.

Seems a good deal, although I didn't catch the download speed

Just saw the ad again - it doesn't mention the download speed.

Also the price is for 12 months then rises to £30.99pm

Goes to prove broadband is not cheap.

Legendkiller2k 06-06-2020 20:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36038635)
Just seen an ad for plusnet broadband with unlimited download for £17.99pm.

Seems a good deal, although I didn't catch the download speed

Just saw the ad again - it doesn't mention the download speed.

Also the price is for 12 months then rises to £30.99pm

Goes to prove broadband is not cheap.

That'd be the ADSL pack, fibre is from £24.99p/m add £5 if you want tv if you play it clever phone up for tv around a week after connection they'll wave the £50 box fee in exchange for you signing a 24 month contract, as you're at start of 18 month anyway nothing to lose as your price stays the same for the entire 24 months.

TMLeafs 07-06-2020 18:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36038630)
Wouldn't 15Gb be enough to stream Amazon/Netflix shows? I would have thought that would be more than sufficient.

In the last 2 months I've done

Youtube
318 GB
Netflix
223 GB
Amazon Instant Video
181 GB

This is lockdown so far more telly is being watched

Raider999 07-06-2020 19:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMLeafs (Post 36038766)
In the last 2 months I've done

Youtube
318 GB
Netflix
223 GB
Amazon Instant Video
181 GB

This is lockdown so far more telly is being watched

This is another downside of streaming - a massive amount of download, you definitely need an unlimited amount if you are streaming, which will limit your options for BB packages.

SonicMaster 09-06-2020 09:02

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Sony Crime Channel has now ceased broadcasting on Virgin TV and the 'Channel No Longer Available' slate is up.

For alternative ways to watch crime shows on Virgin TV the slate recommends that viewers watch Channel 5 or CBS Reality. Better recommendations would have been Sky Crime, Crime + Investigation and I.D. but they aren't available on all packages.

trevrpb 11-06-2020 02:47

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Finally, after just over 18months of waiting, we now have the HD version of SkySportsRacing on Virgin.

This has only happened within the last couple of hours it seems. I hadn't seen any news of this happening so has come as a very pleasant surprise tuning into my early morning fix of Australian Horse Racing coverage. Excellent !!

Ive just noticed that the last race at Yarmouth toninight is with sponsered title of SkySportsRacing HD on Virgin 535.

denphone 11-06-2020 07:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trevrpb (Post 36039301)
Finally, after just over 18months of waiting, we now have the HD version of SkySportsRacing on Virgin.

This has only happened within the last couple of hours it seems. I hadn't seen any news of this happening so has come as a very pleasant surprise tuning into my early morning fix of Australian Horse Racing coverage. Excellent !!

Ive just noticed that the last race at Yarmouth toninight is with sponsered title of SkySportsRacing HD on Virgin 535.

Indeed SkySportsRacing HD has now replaced the dreadful SD version on Virgins platform.:)

figgyburn 11-06-2020 09:03

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CNN next please!.

newapollo 11-06-2020 10:38

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SkySports and Movies next in UHD please :)

denphone 11-06-2020 10:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newapollo (Post 36039342)
SkySports and Movies next in UHD please :)

That might come with the next price rise.;)

1andrew1 11-06-2020 11:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by figgyburn (Post 36039316)
CNN next please!.

Would be timely given events in US and November elections there. Also good to start building a stronger relationship in with WarnerMedia in case they ever decide to launch HBO Max in the UK.
CNN is not a channel Sky would over-promote given its own news channel plus its upcoming global news channel with NBC.

SonicMaster 11-06-2020 12:43

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STV Player to launch UK-wide on Virgin Media

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Scottish broadcaster, STV, has agreed a deal with Virgin Media which will enable its TV customers across the UK to watch Scotland’s leading commercial Video On Demand service, the STV Player, via their Set Top Box (STB) from this summer.

The STV Player app and catch-up service was integrated into Virgin Media’s STBs for viewers in Scotland in December 2018. This new deal ensures that STV content can now be accessed throughout the UK, considerably extending the reach of the Player.

The partnership is a key part of the broadcaster’s strategy to significantly increase the market for its rapidly growing digital streaming platform. Constantly refreshed, quality content and an enhanced user experience has helped accelerate digital growth for STV, with revenues up 60% over the past two years and, already in 2020, digital viewing on the Player up 70%.

Virgin Media is the third connected TV platform the Player is automatically installed on outside of Scotland. Due to licensing agreements, STV can only broadcast its Channel 3 Network schedule in its broadcast regions in Scotland. However, over the last 18 months STV has been building up a rich catalogue of UK-wide licensed content on the STV Player and this, alongside a range of STV’s own productions, is now available across the rest of the UK on Virgin, YouView and Freesat – with more platforms to follow.

This summer, Virgin Media viewers in England, Wales and Northern Ireland will be able to access more than 1500 hours of content from STV, including high quality drama series, true crime, children’s programming and over 50 box sets, for free. This STV Player-exclusive content is increasingly popular amongst viewers and now constitutes 25% of streams.

Richard Williams, STV’s Managing Director, Digital, said: “We’re delighted to be working closely with Virgin Media in bringing our ever-increasing Player content offering to more households across the UK. We see significant scope for future digital growth from both our core audience and new audiences, and partnerships such as these are key to delivering such progress.”

David Bouchier, Chief Digital Entertainment Officer at Virgin Media, said: “STV has a diverse range of programming so it’s great news that all of our customers across the UK can now access its content.”

Upon launch, the STV Player app will be available on compatible Virgin Media STBs, as well as Youview and Freesat boxes. It is also available UK-wide via download from app stores on web, iOS and Android smartphones and tablets, Kindle tablets, Apple TV, Samsung, Fire TV and Roku, Now TV and via Chromecast. STV Player is available in Scotland on Sky.

STV has secured a range of new content partnerships including Endemol Shine International, TCB Media Rights, TVF Media, Hopster, Flame, and Jukin’ to add to their rich and varied inventory and complement the broadcast schedule.
http://www.stvplc.tv/blog/2020/06/st...n-virgin-media

denphone 11-06-2020 12:46

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Excellent news.:tu:

Aguero9320 11-06-2020 13:19

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Does this mean the remaining Sky SD channels will eventually be replaced? Sky Racing is gone, along with Sky Cinema. Documentaries and Nature both launched HD only.

cheekyangus 11-06-2020 13:25

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If STV Player is going UK-wide on Virgin Media, will ITV go the other way and have ITV Hub for ITV2/3/4/Be/CITV in Scotland? Currently the latter is still hosted by VM up here.

Will those outside Scotland get a separate version of STV Player? I'd assume so since it has ITV1 content, unless it can determine your location in future.

BenMcr 11-06-2020 13:40

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On the ITV Hub that's on my Smart TV it has an option to enter a location, which sets it to either 'ITV' or STV' as a content region depending on the postcode. On Virgin it doesn't - so I assume that's being done behind the scenes.

As far as I know the STV Hub is the same core platform technology so would work in the same way.

However for the ITV Hub to be in Scotland, that would have to be an agreement by ITV with VM to do that.

ozsat 11-06-2020 14:20

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All4 app is now available.

The STV Player is more than just ITV catchup. There is quite a bit of the STV archive on there too.

vincerooney 11-06-2020 15:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36039382)
All4 app is now available.

The STV Player is more than just ITV catchup. There is quite a bit of the STV archive on there too.

Didn’t even think the all4 app was going to launch soon so that’s a nice surprise!

When is STV player launching? Free sports is advertising it and it is showing a lot of original programming

ozsat 11-06-2020 15:07

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Press release says this summer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36039401)
When is STV player launching? Free sports is advertising it and it is showing a lot of original programming


denphone 11-06-2020 15:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36039402)
Press release says this summer.

Obviously sometime within the next 10 weeks.;)

SonicMaster 11-06-2020 15:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36039382)
All4 app is now available.

The STV Player is more than just ITV catchup. There is quite a bit of the STV archive on there too.

Hooray! Finally.

Thanks for the heads up.

jobbie8 11-06-2020 15:43

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Great to see the All4 app on V6 today. Wonder when MTV Play and the full Pluto TV app will arrive?

I hope VirginMedia add more apps such as D-Play and UKTV Play, maybe Virgin could use those app's integrated into Tivo as I'm sure there will be a lot of duplicate shows on those apps and their own OnDemand service?

I would also like to see apps like Shudder, BFI Player and Disney+
I do like everything in one place

Media Boy UK 11-06-2020 15:47

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We feel 4Seven HD* may close on Virgin Media UK on June 22nd.

*Channel is set to close on Freeview HD on that date.

cheekyangus 11-06-2020 15:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36039414)
We feel 4Seven HD* may close on Virgin Media UK on June 22nd.

*Channel is set to close on Freeview HD on that date.

If they did it would probably bring them closer to having Channel 4 HD on 104 in every region, rather than just London.

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Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36039382)
All4 app is now available.

The STV Player is more than just ITV catchup. There is quite a bit of the STV archive on there too.

Thanks for heads up re: All4.

I was aware of the extra non-ITV STV Player content.

heavyside 11-06-2020 16:01

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With the arrival of the All4 app is there the option to subscribe and watch it free from the unskippable ads?

cheekyangus 11-06-2020 16:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 36039418)
With the arrival of the All4 app is there the option to subscribe and watch it free from the unskippable ads?

I just had quick look, and the only customisation I saw was the optional sign in to help personalise recommendations.

BenMcr 11-06-2020 16:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 36039418)
With the arrival of the All4 app is there the option to subscribe and watch it free from the unskippable ads?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36039420)
I just had quick look, and the only customisation I saw was the optional sign in to help personalise recommendations.

Just played one of the Bake Off episodes, and it didn't show any ads at the trigger points.

Watching the same episode on my Smart TV version of All4 did.

Not sure if that's a fluke or by design that the V6 version didn't have ads.

Barriescott 11-06-2020 17:46

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I had sky Q last year and I found there was no adverts on any of the VOD as this is a paid for service

spankysmagicpian 11-06-2020 23:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jobbie8 (Post 36039412)
Great to see the All4 app on V6 today. Wonder when MTV Play and the full Pluto TV app will arrive?

I hope VirginMedia add more apps such as D-Play and UKTV Play, maybe Virgin could use those app's integrated into Tivo as I'm sure there will be a lot of duplicate shows on those apps and their own OnDemand service?

I would also like to see apps like Shudder, BFI Player and Disney+
I do like everything in one place

It's not fantastic but I'd like to see Pluto TV as an app - it was promised a while ago I believe? There's some odd gems on there if you hunt for them and who can resist 'Homes Under The Hammer' 24/7 :D

RichardCoulter 11-06-2020 23:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36039414)
We feel 4Seven HD* may close on Virgin Media UK on June 22nd.

*Channel is set to close on Freeview HD on that date.

I don't see why this should be the case, it's not as if VM take their signal from DTT (I believe it's line fed).

1andrew1 12-06-2020 10:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian (Post 36039503)
It's not fantastic but I'd like to see Pluto TV as an app - it was promised a while ago I believe? There's some odd gems on there if you hunt for them and who can resist 'Homes Under The Hammer' 24/7 :D

It has been announced as coming so I think it will and it's owned by Channel 5's owners as well. Pluto now has 101 channels on it so an apparent success.

cheekyangus 12-06-2020 12:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36039543)
It has been announced as coming so I think it will and it's owned by Channel 5's owners as well. Pluto now has 101 channels on it so an apparent success.

"Channels" should be in quotes as some are basically devoted to showing a particular show continually. ;)

And others are themed to a particular broadcaster's content for particular genres and sub-genres e.g. Channel 5 Crime Shows.

SonicMaster 12-06-2020 12:25

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VM has issued a press release about the addition of All4 to the platform:

Virgin Media adds All 4 app to TV platform

Quote:

Virgin Media has added the All 4 app to its TV platform, available at no extra cost for customers.

The new app, which launches on Thursday 11 June, is the latest addition to Virgin Media’s ever growing library of popular TV and streaming apps. Customers can already access Amazon Prime Video, BBC iPlayer, ITV Hub, My5, Netflix, YouTube and many other popular apps.

The launch of the All 4 app provides Virgin Media customers with the full All 4 experience for the first time, enabling them to enjoy even more programmes and on demand content than ever before.

All 4 is home to hundreds of box sets including iconic Channel 4 series as well as original and exclusive shows including US acquisitions Scrubs, Freaks and Geeks, Seinfeld and ER; featured channels such as Adult Swim and the best global drama from Walter Presents; and catch up from all of Channel 4’s broadcast channels.

A curated selection of films shown on Channel 4 and Film4 are also available to stream via the app.

Much-loved shows available to view at any time include hilarious comedies Friday Night Dinner, Brooklyn Nine-Nine and The Inbetweeners; reality TV from Gogglebox, Celebrity SAS: Who Dares Wins and Made in Chelsea; as well as popular titles such as Hollyoaks, Celebs Go Dating, The Great British Bake Off and many others.

David Bouchier, Chief Digital Entertainment Officer at Virgin Media, said:

“The addition of the All 4 app means that we now have fully integrated versions of all the major UK streaming apps on our TV platform. This is great news for our customers who have everything they need in one place, making it even faster and easier to watch the TV shows and movies they love whenever they want.”
I would question "we now have fully integrated versions of all the major UK streaming apps on our TV platform" for two reasons. In what way is All4 'fully integrated' if the content doesn't come up in Search & Discover, and why isn't Disney+ (the UK's third-largest SVOD service) considered major?

johnasimmons 12-06-2020 12:31

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Its not on my TiVo...

oxfordmark 12-06-2020 12:35

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I see Sky Sport's Racing is now in HD.

1andrew1 12-06-2020 12:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36039557)
VM has issued a press release about the addition of All4 to the platform:

Virgin Media adds All 4 app to TV platform

I would question "we now have fully integrated versions of all the major UK streaming apps on our TV platform" for two reasons. In what way is All4 'fully integrated' if the content doesn't come up in Search & Discover, and why isn't Disney+ (the UK's third-largest SVOD service) considered major?

It's clever wording - major UK streaming apps. The key word being UK. So the major UK streaming apps are iPlayer, ITV Player, My 5 and finally All 4. And VM now has them all. VM could conceivably classify Disney + as a US streaming app.

fox35 12-06-2020 12:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36039557)
VM has issued a press release about the addition of All4 to the platform:

Virgin Media adds All 4 app to TV platform



I would question "we now have fully integrated versions of all the major UK streaming apps on our TV platform" for two reasons. In what way is All4 'fully integrated' if the content doesn't come up in Search & Discover, and why isn't Disney+ (the UK's third-largest SVOD service) considered major?

Agreed. Misleading statements from VM. Both the All4 and My5 Apps are not fully integrated into the Search facility on the V6. I would also class UKTV Player along with Disney+ as major tv streaming apps that are AWOL from the VM platform and also the CBS Catch Up app, which is available free on Freeview. VM is most definitely not the goto home for on demand streaming apps, and is falling further behind the other providers.

denphone 12-06-2020 13:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 36039559)
Its not on my TiVo...

Its only on V6 boxes l would imagine.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36039564)
It's clever wording - major UK streaming apps. The key word being UK. So the major UK streaming apps are iPlayer, ITV Player, My 5 and finally All 4. And VM now has them all. VM could conceivably classify Disney + as a US streaming app.

Not sure that clever wording will wash Andrew though with customers.

ScottishSteve 12-06-2020 22:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36039414)
We feel 4Seven HD* may close on Virgin Media UK on June 22nd.

*Channel is set to close on Freeview HD on that date.

The EPG has updated this evening and the schedule still continues after that date.

Fingers crossed we have another exclusive channel.

cheekyangus 12-06-2020 22:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36039620)
The EPG has updated this evening and the schedule still continues after that date.

Fingers crossed we have another exclusive channel.

They may just autofill it using the SD version's schedule data. Maybe they'll go the other way and axe the SD version on VM.

locutus1974 13-06-2020 00:02

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Anyone had a look through the My5 app? had a good look at it and the Pluto TV stuff thats in there as well as the Paramount tv pbs and a few other channels looks good. Doesnt look like a full integration of pluto tv though

Legendkiller2k 13-06-2020 02:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by locutus1974 (Post 36039623)
Anyone had a look through the My5 app? had a good look at it and the Pluto TV stuff thats in there as well as the Paramount tv pbs and a few other channels looks good. Doesnt look like a full integration of pluto tv though

MY5 only has a couple of Plutotv channels on it anyway, if/when Pluto tv comes to the v6 it will be it's own app.

RichardCoulter 13-06-2020 23:18

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
​There are going to be three satellite feeds for Pick. Pick SD, Pick HD and Pick alternate.

Apparently, Pick HD & SD will show the FTA football and Pick alternate will be used for the ROI where the football won't be shown on it (this will show 'Caught on Dashcam' instead).

Cheeky Angus and I think that VM will show the Sky Sports feed on channel 100 when the free football is on. I assume that this will be in HD as those wanting to watch it in SD could do so on Pick.

I wonder if VM Ireland will have to temporarily swap their feed to Pick alternate??

Just to confuse matters even more, it's been said that the FTA football will also be shown on the encrypted Sky One! Will VM have to temporarily black out Sky One in the ROI when the football is on!?

reddog 13-06-2020 23:38

Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2020)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36039710)
​There are going to be three satellite feeds for Pick. Pick SD, Pick HD and Pick alternate.

Apparently, Pick HD & SD will show the FTA football and Pick alternate will be used for the ROI where the football won't be shown on it (this will show 'Caught on Dashcam' instead).

Cheeky Angus and I think that VM will show the Sky Sports feed on channel 100 when the free football is on. I assume that this will be in HD as those wanting to watch it in SD could do so on Pick.

I wonder if VM Ireland will have to temporarily swap their feed to Pick alternate??

Just to confuse matters even more, it's been said that the FTA football will also be shown on the encrypted Sky One! Will VM have to temporarily black out Sky One in the ROI when the football is on!?

Sky are showing the FTA games on pick in Ireland as well.


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