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Mick 17-03-2018 11:25

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
I/You would be more ill under Hillary.

I certainly feel we all dodged a bullet under that Crooked one. I mean she could have been President and would have been falling over all the time. She is like on her 90th fall this week. She almost fell arse over tit, falling down some steps in India, she had to be helped down, then we learns she fell in the bath, breaking one of her wrists., she injured herself when she was here in London, not that long ago, again falling/tripping on some steps. IMO she has a serious illness she is keeping from the people, that’s her right now, but she could have been President.

RizzyKing 17-03-2018 14:51

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Yes as much as i have reservations about Trump he is infinitely better then hilary would have been.

Dude111 17-03-2018 15:29

Ya I suppose so...........

Mr K 17-03-2018 17:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35940967)
I/You would be more ill under Hillary.

I certainly feel we all dodged a bullet under that Crooked one. I mean she could have been President and would have been falling over all the time. She is like on her 90th fall this week. She almost fell arse over tit, falling down some steps in India, she had to be helped down, then we learns she fell in the bath, breaking one of her wrists., she injured herself when she was here in London, not that long ago, again falling/tripping on some steps. IMO she has a serious illness she is keeping from the people, that’s her right now, but she could have been President.

Jeepers Mick there's no need to delight at the thought of someone being unwell.

Mick 17-03-2018 17:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35941009)
Jeepers Mick there's no need to delight at the thought of someone being unwell.

Why not?

For months the liberals, I'm with her brigade and Fake News Media in the U.S, CNN and MSNBC ran on the 25th Amendment attempt that Trump being medically unfit for office, he had a check up by the same medic who examined Obama and he declared Trump medically fit for office.

Clinton is falling about the place everywhere, had she won, she would be sitting out her term falling about every where.

Mr K 17-03-2018 17:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941010)
Why not?

For months the liberals, I'm with her brigade and Fake News Media in the U.S, CNN and MSNBC ran on the 25th Amendment attempt that Trump being medically unfit for office, he had a check up by the same medic who examined Obama and he declared Trump medically fit for office.

Clinton is falling about the place everywhere, had she won, she would be sitting out her term falling about every where.

Cripes and i thought you weren't serious !

Trump's mental health has got to be in question, which is more of an issue for a President than physical health.

Mr Banana 17-03-2018 17:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941010)
Why not?

For months the liberals, I'm with her brigade and Fake News Media in the U.S, CNN and MSNBC ran on the 25th Amendment attempt that Trump being medically unfit for office, he had a check up by the same medic who examined Obama and he declared Trump medically fit for office.

Clinton is falling about the place everywhere, had she won, she would be sitting out her term falling about every where.

Because its not a nice trait for a fellow human being to portray perhaps?

1andrew1 17-03-2018 18:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35940967)
I/You would be more ill under Hillary.

I certainly feel we all dodged a bullet under that Crooked one. I mean she could have been President and would have been falling over all the time. She is like on her 90th fall this week. She almost fell arse over tit, falling down some steps in India, she had to be helped down, then we learns she fell in the bath, breaking one of her wrists., she injured herself when she was here in London, not that long ago, again falling/tripping on some steps. IMO she has a serious illness she is keeping from the people, that’s her right now, but she could have been President.

I'm not sure that falling over is a transmittable disease. :D

Mick 17-03-2018 19:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35941011)
Cripes and i thought you weren't serious !

Trump's mental health has got to be in question, which is more of an issue for a President than physical health.

I’m more sympathetic to the families of the Benghazi victims, you know the ones Hillary lied to, according to one of their sons mother.

As I said, he has been declared medically fit by the WH Medic. The same one who assessed Obama.

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Originally Posted by Mr Banana (Post 35941012)
Because its not a nice trait for a fellow human being to portray perhaps?

You’ve suddenly developed a bout of compassion when you did not give a toss when others were doing the same thing to Trump. :rolleyes:

1andrew1 17-03-2018 20:24

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HR McMaster, national security adviser, believed to be latest in Trump's "firing line"
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8260111.html

Mr K 17-03-2018 20:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35941036)
HR McMaster, national security adviser, believed to be latest in Trump's "firing line"
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8260111.html

Does he think being President is just an episode of 'The Apprentice' ? :rolleyes:

Mr Banana 17-03-2018 20:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941022)
I’m more sympathetic to the families of the Benghazi victims, you know the ones Hillary lied to, according to one of their sons mother.

As I said, he has been declared medically fit by the WH Medic. The same one who assessed Obama.

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You’ve suddenly developed a bout of compassion when you did not give a toss when others were doing the same thing to Trump. :rolleyes:

Didn't see anyone appearing to be happy that he might be ill, hence no comment.

passingbat 18-03-2018 11:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35941011)
Trump's mental health has got to be in question.


Well thank you Dr K; your opinion is welcomed. But after very serious reflection upon this matter, I've decided that I will stick with the official doctor, who got expert medical training, rather than a doctor, like yourself, who got his training via CNN ;)


And, you don't need to be a doctor to know not to wish illness on anyone and hot to rejoice in any that someone may have.

1andrew1 18-03-2018 11:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35941040)
Does he think being President is just an episode of 'The Apprentice' ? :rolleyes:

lol. :D
At least in The Apprentice he had the courage to tell them face-to-face rather than tweet their dismissals. Imagine the poor assistant bringing a print-out to his recently-sacked adviser who was not on social media. Awkward!

Damien 18-03-2018 12:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35941082)
Well thank you Dr K; your opinion is welcomed. But after very serious reflection upon this matter, I've decided that I will stick with the official doctor, who got expert medical training, rather than a doctor, like yourself, who got his training via CNN ;)

I don't think that's any different from people diagnosing Clinton from a few videos, the glee to which people like watching her slip or break her wrist is a bit sick. :erm:

In other news Mueller apparently has memos from McCabe of his meetings with Trump but no indication of if that gets us anywhere. However it's another sign that this investigation isn't going to end anytime soon. Even if it were to end before then it's unlikely Mueller will do anything before the mid-terms since he seems to be rather professional and will want to avoid impacting them.

1andrew1 18-03-2018 14:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35941087)
In other news Mueller apparently has memos from McCabe of his meetings with Trump but no indication of if that gets us anywhere. However it's another sign that this investigation isn't going to end anytime soon. Even if it were to end before then it's unlikely Mueller will do anything before the mid-terms since he seems to be rather professional and will want to avoid impacting them.

In a non-digital era, it took two years to finalise the Watergate investigations. So potentially we could be less than halfway through now. I'm not prejudging the outcome by referencing Watergate.

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interesting development.
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Cambridge Analytica, the data firm alleged to have used the personal information of millions of Facebook users without their knowledge in its work for Donald Trump’s election campaign, is trying to stop the broadcast of an undercover Channel 4 News report in which its chief executive talks unguardedly about its practices.

Channel 4 reporters posed as prospective clients and had a series of meetings with Cambridge Analytica that they secretly filmed — including at least one with Alexander Nix, its chief executive. Channel 4 declined to comment.
https://www.ft.com/content/7ed1572c-...a-7e7563b0b0f4

Mick 18-03-2018 14:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35941087)
I don't think that's any different from people diagnosing Clinton from a few videos, the glee to which people like watching her slip or break her wrist is a bit sick. :erm:

In other news Mueller apparently has memos from McCabe of his meetings with Trump but no indication of if that gets us anywhere. However it's another sign that this investigation isn't going to end anytime soon. Even if it were to end before then it's unlikely Mueller will do anything before the mid-terms since he seems to be rather professional and will want to avoid impacting them.

For a start, noones diagnosed Clinton from a few videos. One can only surmise that she keeps falling an injuring herself, something must be underlying as to why, that is not a diagnosis.

Secondly, I take no glee either. I just don’t offer her any sympathy, because I cannot stand the Crooked woman with this apparent “cheating” that’s been done for her, to help her try win an election.

Anyone can say they take notes. There would be no indication of when they written and how accurate they are. One thing is certain, Andy McCabe has appeared to have perjured Comey, the statement he gave when he was fired on Friday, gave the impression, Comey was aware of McCabe talking to the press. Comey was asked under Oath, if he knew of the anonymous sources in the FBI, he answered, “No, never.” Oops.

passingbat 18-03-2018 15:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35941087)
I don't think that's any different from people diagnosing Clinton from a few videos, the glee to which people like watching her slip or break her wrist is a bit sick. :erm:

.


Something I have no desire to do. Unless you are a doctor, comments on such things are pointless without a cunsoltation

denphone 18-03-2018 16:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35941001)
Yes as much as i have reservations about Trump he is infinitely better then hilary would have been.

Both are rubbish IMO..

Mick 18-03-2018 16:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35941115)
Both are rubbish IMO..

The people who voted for Trump, think they made the right choice, my American friends think he is doing just great, they didn't want another useless Obama, which is what they would have got with Crooked Hillary. But if Trump is so rubbish, in your opinion, I'd love to see him do really well, given that his apparent rubbishness is causing the U.S economy to boom and recover, job numbers are up for women and blacks and he could potentially solve the North Korea crisis, invoking a peaceful resolution in the Korean Peninsula not seen in absolute decades. But yeah, so rubbish is that. :rolleyes:

denphone 18-03-2018 17:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941124)
The people who voted for Trump, think they made the right choice, my American friends think he is doing just great, they didn't want another useless Obama, which is what they would have got with Crooked Hillary. But if Trump is so rubbish, in your opinion, I'd love to see him do really well, given that his apparent rubbishness is causing the U.S economy to boom and recover, job numbers are up for women and blacks and he could potentially solve the North Korea crisis, invoking a peaceful resolution in the Korean Peninsula not seen in absolute decades. But yeah, so rubbish is that. :rolleyes:

Look Mick you are totally entitled to your opinion of Mr Trump , Hilary , Obama etc ,etc but there are many who might not think the same way.

Mick 18-03-2018 17:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35941126)
Look Mick you are totally entitled to your opinion of Mr Trump , Hilary , Obama etc ,etc but there are many who might not think the same way.

It's irrelevant what we think on this side of the pond, the evidence is there for all to see, regardless of how much people may hate the man, the U.S is doing extremely well economically, under HIS leadership and that's all those who voted for him care about, they certainly couldn't give a shit what we in Britain thinks.

Damien 18-03-2018 17:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941124)
The people who voted for Trump, think they made the right choice, my American friends think he is doing just great, they didn't want another useless Obama, which is what they would have got with Crooked Hillary. But if Trump is so rubbish, in your opinion, I'd love to see him do really well, given that his apparent rubbishness is causing the U.S economy to boom and recover, job numbers are up for women and blacks and he could potentially solve the North Korea crisis, invoking a peaceful resolution in the Korean Peninsula not seen in absolute decades. But yeah, so rubbish is that. :rolleyes:

The US economy 'recover' from what? It was also doing very well under Obama too. Obama had almost constant growth and he was handed an economy after the 2008 crash.

I am not disputing the US economy has done well under Trump but it's a bit of a double standard to call Obama useless for also growing the economy and claim it's 'recovering'.

As shown here the record of Obama's last year is very similar to Trump's first year: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...on-the-economy

1andrew1 18-03-2018 20:36

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I had to chuckle at Ned Price's tweet today "This is the first time Russians have had a say in picking a president since November 2016." :D
https://twitter.com/nedprice/status/975375891554545664

Hugh 19-03-2018 19:39

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http://thehill.com/homenews/state-wa...g-case-reports
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The Supreme Court on Monday denied Republican requests to delay a Pennsylvania state court ruling requiring the state’s congressional map be redrawn, increasing the likelihood that the map will be redrawn ahead of November's midterm elections.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1GV2BZ
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A panel of federal judges in Pennsylvania on Monday refused to block the state’s new congressional district map from taking effect, rejecting Republican arguments that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court overstepped its authority in issuing new voting lines in February.

The ruling, a victory for Democrats hoping to defeat Republican incumbents in November’s midterm congressional elections, came just 24 hours before candidates for the U.S. House of Representatives must file petitions to secure spots on this fall’s ballot.
This will affect the 2018 mid-term Elections.

Mick 19-03-2018 19:49

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Typical of the pathetic Democrats, changing the goal posts, cheating because they can not win a political race legitimately*. (*These days as per the cheating of Bernie Sanders in the Primaries in 2016, DNC and Hillary campaign paying for Dossier, compiled by Russians).

1andrew1 19-03-2018 20:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941244)
Typical of the pathetic Democrats, changing the goal posts, cheating because they can not win a political race legitimately*. (*These days as per the cheating of Bernie Sanders in the Primaries in 2016, DNC and Hillary campaign paying for Dossier, compiled by Russians).

I thought that Dossier was a great British export? :D

Mick 19-03-2018 20:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35941250)
I thought that Dossier was a great British export? :D

Do keep up, Steele got his duff ‘Intel’ from Russians.

Damien 19-03-2018 21:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941244)
Typical of the pathetic Democrats, changing the goal posts, cheating because they can not win a political race legitimately*. (*These days as per the cheating of Bernie Sanders in the Primaries in 2016, DNC and Hillary campaign paying for Dossier, compiled by Russians).

Have you looked to see if it's possible the boundaries are unfair?

FiveThirtyEight, the data site thing, has done a piece on it here: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...c-gerrymander/

Quote:

The court ordered that the map be redrawn after finding that the current one, which was enacted by the Republican state legislature in 2011, was a partisan gerrymander and violated the state’s constitution. (Republicans were given a chance to submit a substitute plan — which they did. And the Democratic governor, Tom Wolf, was given a chance to reject the plan — which he did.) The map submitted by Republicans probably would have benefited them less than the current map does, but it would still have been better for the GOP than what would be expected based on the partisan makeup of the state. Because the legislature and the governor couldn’t come to an agreement, the court stepped in.
Why was the Republican redistricting not moving the goalposts?

1andrew1 19-03-2018 21:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941254)
Do keep up, Steele got his duff ‘Intel’ from Russians.

We sold it to the US. A great British export. Like Cambridge Analytica who helped sell them Trump.

Hugh 19-03-2018 21:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941244)
Typical of the pathetic Democrats, changing the goal posts, cheating because they can not win a political race legitimately*. (*These days as per the cheating of Bernie Sanders in the Primaries in 2016, DNC and Hillary campaign paying for Dossier, compiled by Russians).

So something that has been approved by the State Supreme Court, a Federal Court, and the US Supreme Court, is "cheating"?

TheDaddy 20-03-2018 02:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35941259)
So something that has been approved by the State Supreme Court, a Federal Court, and the US Supreme Court, is "cheating"?

They're all in on it I tells ya

Mick 20-03-2018 11:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35941259)
So something that has been approved by the State Supreme Court, a Federal Court, and the US Supreme Court, is "cheating"?

Come off it. Just because the Higher Judicial system denies hearings, doesn’t mean they approve of something and yes, the Democrats cheat as per their recent scandals coming to light regarding their actions alleged to have occurred in the U.S Election, the real collusion. (i.e DNC & Hillary campaign paying foreign entities, a former British Spy, who in turn got duff info from Russians).

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35941258)
We sold it to the US. A great British export. Like Cambridge Analytica who helped sell them Trump.

There was nothing great about it, the info obtained could not be verified.

I have to ask, this CA issue, wtf would information from UK nationals, help Trump in the U.S win an election in the U.S ?

Makes no sense. Total none story, like it was in 2016 when it was first reported then.

It is the usual bullshit scapegoating for the losers to look for the reasons to why they lost brexit vote and or Hillary losing. :rolleyes:

Damien 20-03-2018 12:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941301)
Come off it. Just because the Higher Judicial system denies hearings, doesn’t mean they approve of something and yes, the Democrats cheat as per their recent scandals coming to light regarding their actions alleged to have occurred in the U.S Election, the real collusion. (i.e DNC & Hillary campaign paying foreign entities, a former British Spy, who in turn got duff info from Russians).

If you have the time take a look at the article I posted a bit earlier. It shows this is more of a rebalancing after the court found the Republican redistricting from 2011 was gerrymandering.

Mick 20-03-2018 12:57

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I’ll look at it.

This CA data thing. Trump phased out using them before election other Republicans, Rubio, Cruz used Cambridge Analytics during their campaign. The Fake News Media won’t run with that, where there is a negative headline where there is a slight tenuous link to Trump, media will run with it full steam ahead. I’d say this was more troublesome for Facebook, given it’s market value seems to have tanked overnight.

Damien 20-03-2018 13:57

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The CA thing is worse for Facebook than Trump.

pip08456 20-03-2018 19:41

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Thanks Damien, for one swift moment I thought that CA may have had involvement with the alledged "collusion" with the Russians for not just the US election but Brexit and every other election in Europe.

I can take heart that Facebook is the only one to suffer.

Damien 20-03-2018 20:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35941336)
Thanks Damien, for one swift moment I thought that CA may have had involvement with the alledged "collusion" with the Russians for not just the US election but Brexit and every other election in Europe.

I can take heart that Facebook is the only one to suffer.

If CA were found to have been somehow involved with the Russian state then the question would change but that's not happening here.

The CA stuff is two-fold. One if the dodgy stuff they were offering to do in the Channel 4 story. That's bad.

But the data and Facebook stuff? It's not a big deal IMO. Targeted campaigns at different demographics online is not new at all. Political campaigns have been using Facebook data to tailor a message to different voter groups for at least 5 years now. In conjunction with information polls have given you can often get a good idea of someone's political outlook from their demographic information and interests. So you send a different advert to a 60 year old man who likes Top Gear in Blackpool than the advert you send to a 19 year old woman in London who loves Harry Potter.

That happens a lot online and with considerably more sophistication than my crude example.

What CA did was use data that had been farmed from public profiles on Facebook by a third party and in-doing so broke many of Facebook's policies and might have broken rules on data protection. I don't know the legalities of that.

But the data use here was not unusual and in fact seems pretty crude compared to what other people did. The Obama campaign did the same the only difference being that users either consented to their data being used or were reached via legitimate Facebook advertising.

Doesn't seem a big deal to me. The way Facebook allows their users to live in a bubble reinforcing their own biases by only showing them stuff that agrees with their world view is worse IMO.

pip08456 20-03-2018 21:07

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Fortunately (IMHO) I'm not brain dead enough to use Facebook.

Mick 20-03-2018 21:21

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I rarely use it these days.

Damien 21-03-2018 11:10

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Trump tweeting more about Mueller. He's gonna fire him isn't he?

heero_yuy 21-03-2018 11:17

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1 Attachment(s)
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Quote from Damien:


Trump tweeting more about Mueller. He's gonna fire him isn't he?
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...9&d=1521630942

It's what he does. :D

Attachment 27349

Mick 21-03-2018 12:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35941386)
Trump tweeting more about Mueller. He's gonna fire him isn't he?

Trump is becoming more unpredictable and IMO reckless and yes, that’s me saying this.

If he fires him, he is kissing goodbye to his Presidency. Several of his own party are warning him it will be the beginning of the end of his presidency.

He appalled me yesterday calling to congratulate Putin as did all the other world leaders who sucked up to him, this is a big FU to Britain IMO.

However, I learned from a Washington Post article that Trump WAS advised by his National Security Advisors before his call to Putin... ‘DO NOT CONGRATULATE PUTIN’ this was in caps on the memo and that he needed to bring up the Salisbury poison attack. Well, he ignored both these and did the opposite to what he was advised to do.

I thought last week we would finally get the international community to stand up to Russia, this week we are just accepting more of the same after Putin’s re-Election and Trump has disappointed me on this issue big time.

1andrew1 21-03-2018 21:21

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Not proving himself the loyal friend of the UK some had believed he would turn out to be.
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British steel exporters hit by ‘America First’ tariffs
President Trump fired another shot in an escalating trade dispute with Britain last night as his administration imposed punitive customs duties on imports of British steel products.

The US Department of Commerce said that it would impose anti-dumping duties of nearly 150 per cent on imports of carbon and alloy steel wire rod from Britain, which are worth $20.5 million a year.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/b...warn-0w07tjkkb

pip08456 21-03-2018 21:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35941452)
Not proving himself the loyal friend of the UK some had believed he would turn out to be.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/b...warn-0w07tjkkb

Trump has place punitive duty on all steel imports from every country not just the UK.

1andrew1 21-03-2018 22:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35941453)
Trump has place punitive duty on all steel imports from every country not just the UK.

Nope, he's exempted countries like Mexico and Canada.

Mick 21-03-2018 23:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35941454)
Nope, he's exempted countries like Mexico and Canada.

That’s because of NAFTA which Trump has not yet abolished. Mexico and Canada are the only other member countries.

RizzyKing 22-03-2018 01:38

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Despite what many hoped after Trump won the presidency he is turning into an embarrassment and quite a few of my friends who were huge Trump supporters are backing off from him. The congratulating Putin thing has massively backfired on him with many American's deciding that was wrong and with it coming out he was clearly told not to do it and ignored that has only added fuel to the fire. Being honest as I've said before he doesn't want to serve a whole term as president and is constantly saying and doing stupid stuff hoping he will get kicked out of the oval office i think this whole thing was an ego trip for Trump winning it ended any serious thought he had about the presidency.

I now think it's a case of when he goes not if he goes americans will put up with a lot but if they think your turning the office of president or the country in general into a laughing stock they can be extremely aggressive in their response. Such a shame Trump had a real chance to change the political landscape in the U.S and possibly other western nations but will now be an example of how it goes bad when you don't pick the usual candidates reinforcing the established political structure the man's done more then just affect himself he's screwed a lot of people.

Maggy 22-03-2018 16:25

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/22/u...mp-lawyer.html

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WASHINGTON — The president’s lead lawyer for the special counsel investigation, John Dowd, resigned on Thursday, according to two people briefed on the matter, days after the president called for an end to the inquiry.
Matters are getting interesting..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43506098

pip08456 22-03-2018 16:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35941461)
Despite what many hoped after Trump won the presidency he is turning into an embarrassment and quite a few of my friends who were huge Trump supporters are backing off from him. The congratulating Putin thing has massively backfired on him with many American's deciding that was wrong and with it coming out he was clearly told not to do it and ignored that has only added fuel to the fire. Being honest as I've said before he doesn't want to serve a whole term as president and is constantly saying and doing stupid stuff hoping he will get kicked out of the oval office i think this whole thing was an ego trip for Trump winning it ended any serious thought he had about the presidency.

I now think it's a case of when he goes not if he goes americans will put up with a lot but if they think your turning the office of president or the country in general into a laughing stock they can be extremely aggressive in their response. Such a shame Trump had a real chance to change the political landscape in the U.S and possibly other western nations but will now be an example of how it goes bad when you don't pick the usual candidates reinforcing the established political structure the man's done more then just affect himself he's screwed a lot of people.

IMHO you are correct. By congratulating Putin he's screwed himself. His supporters were quite willing to believe that the accusations of collusion with Russia were nothing more than the Democrats being sore losers and clutching at straws.

With one tweet he may have stuffed himself.

Hugh 22-03-2018 17:23

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35941524)
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/22/u...mp-lawyer.html
Quote:

WASHINGTON — The president’s lead lawyer for the special counsel investigation, John Dowd, resigned on Thursday, according to two people briefed on the matter, days after the president called for an end to the inquiry.
Matters are getting interesting..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43506098

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...n-russia-probe
Quote:

President Trump said Thursday he still wants to testify before special counsel Robert Mueller in his ongoing probe into Russia's interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

"Yes. I would like to," Trump said when asked about a potential Mueller sit-down during an event on trade.
Could these two things be connected?

Mick 22-03-2018 19:48

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
The Committee on the House Intelligence investigation on Russia Meddling in the U.S Election 2016, releases the following report and recommendations:-

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploa...mendations.pdf

pip08456 22-03-2018 20:09

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
I find it it interesting that Democrats who to date have been very vocal on my Twitter timeline previously are now suddenly silent since the release of this.

Well done for posing it Mick.

Hugh 22-03-2018 21:18

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941538)
The Committee on the House Intelligence investigation on Russia Meddling in the U.S Election 2016, releases the following report and recommendations:-

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploa...mendations.pdf

This was released by the Republican members - all Democrats on the committee voted against releasing it.

The summary says that "none of the interviewed witnesses provided evidence of collusion, coordination or conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russian government." Not surprising, since they didn't interview Flynn or Papadopoulos, who gave pled guilty, or Manafort, or subpoena Bannon or Hicks to make them answer, rather than stonewalling.

If you don’t ask questions because you don’t want to hear the answers, it’s not surprising you don’t find anything amiss...

Mick 22-03-2018 23:44

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Absolute rubbish Hugh and you know it. Manafort, Flynn indicted on charges not related to any collusion whatsoever and you don’t know what questions they asked Hicks or Bannon, because their testimony’s were behind closed sessions, what was said outside them, was likely to be leaked by the the Dems and usually what they leak is totally inaccurate.

I don’t really care what the ‘cheating’ Democrats want. We know why they did not want it releasing, because it describes the DNC and Crooked Hillary up to no good and them being the ones who this report shows are the actual ones who colluded with Russia by paying Steele, who in turn got his intel from Russians for dirt on Trump, that’s them right there, doing the collusion!

1andrew1 22-03-2018 23:57

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35941552)
This was released by the Republican members - all Democrats on the committee voted against releasing it.

The summary says that "none of the interviewed witnesses provided evidence of collusion, coordination or conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russian government." Not surprising, since they didn't interview Flynn or Papadopoulos, who gave pled guilty, or Manafort, or subpoena Bannon or Hicks to make them answer, rather than stonewalling.

If you don’t ask questions because you don’t want to hear the answers, it’s not surprising you don’t find anything amiss...

Spot on Hugh. Your analysis cuts through this nonsense like a wire-cutter through um, wire. "Don't ask, you don't get." sums it up. Let's wait for the results of the investigation.

Mick 23-03-2018 00:13

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35941565)
Spot on Hugh. Your analysis cuts through this nonsense like a wire-cutter through um, wire. "Don't ask, you don't get." sums it up. Let's wait for the results of the investigation.

These ARE the results of the investigation. If they did not find anything, what makes you think Mueller will?

But not spot on at all. It does no such thing.

I will say to you what I said to Hugh, nobody knows what questions Hicks or Bannon were asked, their testimony’s were in classified settings. What was leaked came more likely came from the pathetic Dems, but what they leaked, was misleading as usually always is.

1andrew1 23-03-2018 00:27

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941566)
These ARE the results of the investigation. If they did not find anything, what makes you think Mueller will?

But not spot on at all. It does no such thing.

I will say to you what I said to Hugh, nobody knows what questions Hicks or Bannon were asked, their testimony’s were in classified settings. What was leaked came more likely came from the pathetic Dems, but what they leaked, was misleading as usually always is.

Let's wait until Mueller's investigation is concluded and he's spoken to all relevant people before deciding one way or the other. He's likely to be more neutral than papers just from one party.

Mick 23-03-2018 00:52

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35941567)
Let's wait until Mueller's investigation is concluded* and he's spoken to all relevant people before deciding one way or the other. He's likely to be more neutral than papers just from one party.

*I have no desire to wait 26 years, thanks.

That’s a laugh, his team comprising of Democrats, highly partisan, he appointed disgraced FBI Agent Peter Strzok on to his team also until his heavy bias was discovered by the Inspector General.

1andrew1 23-03-2018 07:40

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941570)
*I have no desire to wait 26 years, thanks.

That’s a laugh, his team comprising of Democrats, highly partisan, he appointed disgraced FBI Agent Peter Strzok on to his team also until his heavy bias was discovered by the Inspector General.

Not sure where you get 26 years from. Be patient, it took two years for the Watergate Investigation and that was pre-digital.

Hugh 23-03-2018 15:48

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941570)
*I have no desire to wait 26 years, thanks.

That’s a laugh, his team comprising of Democrats, highly partisan, he appointed disgraced FBI Agent Peter Strzok on to his team also until his heavy bias was discovered by the Inspector General.

Mueller is a registered Republican, appointed by a Republican Attorney General, and when he led the FBI he was appointed by a Republican President.

Also, people are saying because some of his team donated to the Democrats, they must be biased (ignoring the fact that one of them also donated to Republicans as well) - Trump donated to the Democrats...

1andrew1 23-03-2018 16:11

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35941616)
Mueller is a registered Republican, appointed by a Republican Attorney General, and when he led the FBI he was appointed by a Republican President.

Also, people are saying because some of his team donated to the Democrats, they must be biased (ignoring the fact that one of them also donated to Republicans as well) - Trump donated to the Democrats...

Trump and his followers' slurs on Mueller to try and dislodge him from power are counter-productive and have a whiff of desperation about them.

Meanwhile, I see that Trump has appointed an architect of the Iraq War, John Bolton as his new national security adviser. I guess as someone who lied about Iraq's WMD, he shares Trump's passion for fake news! ;)

Hugh 25-03-2018 13:35

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
1 Attachment(s)
And this is why Presidents should never try to take credit for Stock Market rises...

Quote:

Donald J. Trump ✔
@realDonaldTrump

Dow goes from 18,589 on November 9, 2016, to 25,075 today, for a new all-time Record. Jumped 1000 points in last 5 weeks, Record fastest 1000 point move in history. This is all about the Make America Great Again agenda! Jobs, Jobs, Jobs. Six trillion dollars in value created!
12:35 PM - Jan 5, 2018
Friday, down 2176 points in a month - if you take credit for the rises, you have to take the blame for the falls...

Mick 26-03-2018 21:28

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Keep calm Hugh, is only a temporary scratch.

Dow Rallies again in a 670 point gain today, one of the largest gains in a single day since 2008. On News that U.S may avert a trade war with China.

Hugh 26-03-2018 21:49

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941884)
Keep calm Hugh, is only a temporary scratch.

Dow Rallies again in a 670 point gain today, one of the largest gains in a single day since 2008. On News that U.S may avert a trade war with China.

I’m calm - just pointing out if someone take the credit for rises, they have to take the blame for losses (I think it should be neither, as it’s not that simple, and there are so many other factors to be taken into account). It was the biggest one week drop in two years.

The good news is that it looks as if it’s recovering, which is what everyone wants.

Damien 26-03-2018 22:14

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Hopefully a sustained rally will follow, the last couple of months have been brutal.

1andrew1 26-03-2018 22:51

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
I do wonder what the non-disclosure agreement was all about assuming she didn't have an affair with Trump. Was she his tax lawyer, accountant or realtor perhaps?
Quote:

Stormy Daniels: White House 'strongly' denies Trump's alleged affair
The White House has denied allegations that Donald Trump had an affair with an adult-film actress.

Stormy Daniels gave details about the alleged 2006 affair during an interview on CBS News' 60 Minutes programme.

"The president doesn't believe that any of the claims that Ms Daniels made last night in her interview were accurate," said spokesman Raj Shah.

President Trump's lawyers are seeking $20m (£14m) in damages from her, saying she broke a non-disclosure deal.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43549767

Mick 27-03-2018 05:41

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Did anyone see the size of Stormy’s pupils on 60 minutes... ?

Seen lots of comments from folk ‘suggesting’ those are potentially the eyes of someone hooked on cocaine. I don’t trust her either way.

Damien 27-03-2018 06:59

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941894)
Did anyone see the size of Stormy’s pupils on 60 minutes... ?

Seen lots of comments from folk ‘suggesting’ those are potentially the eyes of someone hooked on cocaine. I don’t trust her either way.

Sounds like folk are trying to discredit her. I doubt these people are qualified to diagnose drug problem addicts. Anyway it doesn’t matter. Either she has proof or she hasn’t. Everyone else will already have made their mind up otherwise.

Mick 27-03-2018 12:19

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Eyes with pupils that size in high light conditions is not normal and I work in the health care sector to know that for sure!

'If she had proof, it had been shown by now, either Washington Post or NYT would likely paid top whack to share it, this attempt by her lawyers waving a DVD, and threatening the President that ‘We are not playing games.’ Very corny and pathetic.

Hugh 27-03-2018 12:30

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941913)
Eyes with pupils that size in high light conditions is not normal and I work in the health care sector to know that for sure!

'If she had proof, it had been shown by now, either Washington Post or NYT would likely paid top whack to share it, this attempt by her lawyers waving a DVD, and threatening the President that ‘We are not playing games.’ Very corny and pathetic.

If he didn't have an affair, why did his lawyer pay her $130k, and why is his lawyer now threatening to sue her for a breach of a non-disclosure agreement?

What is there to disclose if nothing happened?:confused:

Mick 27-03-2018 13:36

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35941915)
If he didn't have an affair, why did his lawyer pay her $130k, and why is his lawyer now threatening to sue her for a breach of a non-disclosure agreement?

What is there to disclose if nothing happened?:confused:

Why don't you ask him. I really don't care Hugh about a private citizens private life before he became President. :rolleyes:

papa smurf 27-03-2018 14:05

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941921)
Why don't you ask him. I really don't care Hugh about a private citizens private life before he became President. :rolleyes:

I agree
It's not like he was involved with Monica Lewinsky ;)

Damien 27-03-2018 14:20

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941913)
Eyes with pupils that size in high light conditions is not normal and I work in the health care sector to know that for sure!

Yeah but pupils can dilate for all sorts of reasons other than drugs. Some eye drops can cause it, some legal drugs, if you have issues with your eye height or just general eye issues. Could be drugs but could also be many other things.

Thing is no one watching TV is in a position to diagnose it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941913)
'If she had proof, it had been shown by now, either Washington Post or NYT would likely paid top whack to share it, this attempt by her lawyers waving a DVD, and threatening the President that ‘We are not playing games.’ Very corny and pathetic.

The Post and NYT likely not. Most broadsheets in the UK and US have a policy against paying their sources (for obvious reasons). Maybe someone else though, maybe she was paid for this interview too.

As I said if she has proof, share it. Otherwise this story isn't going anywhere.

Mick 27-03-2018 14:58

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35941923)
I agree
It's not like he was involved with Monica Lewinsky ;)

Exactly. Wasn't much Media Derangement back when all that was happening.

Not to mention the rape allegations coming from Juanita Broaddrick and sexual advances to Paula Jones by President Bill Clinton, which in that case an out of court settlement was reached! The Fake News Media didn't appear to give a shit back then about the Crooked Clinton empire.

---------- Post added at 14:58 ---------- Previous post was at 14:55 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35941925)
Yeah but pupils can dilate for all sorts of reasons other than drugs.

I am well aware of that, but pupils that size is not normal and shows an underlying condition, could be drugs, could be a underlying medical condition, I'd put my money on it being drugs. I just don't give a shit either way.

Hugh 27-03-2018 17:38

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941921)
Why don't you ask him. I really don't care Hugh about a private citizens private life before he became President. :rolleyes:

As has been previously explained, if the payment (which was paid just before the election) could be deemed to have affected the election (by stopping negative news), it is seen as a campaign contribution, and since it wasn't declared as such, is a felony.

It's not the action that gets you, it's the cover-up (see Watergate, etc.).

---------- Post added at 17:38 ---------- Previous post was at 17:37 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941926)
Exactly. Wasn't much Media Derangement back when all that was happening.

Not to mention the rape allegations coming from Juanita Broaddrick and sexual advances to Paula Jones by President Bill Clinton, which in that case an out of court settlement was reached! The Fake News Media didn't appear to give a shit back then about the Crooked Clinton empire.

---------- Post added at 14:58 ---------- Previous post was at 14:55 ----------



I am well aware of that, but pupils that size is not normal and shows an underlying condition, could be drugs, could be a underlying medical condition, I'd put my money on it being drugs. I just don't give a shit either way.

Seriously? - it was wall to wall coverage at the time.

Mick 27-03-2018 18:06

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35941933)
As has been previously explained, if the payment (which was paid just before the election) could be deemed to have affected the election (by stopping negative news), it is seen as a campaign contribution, and since it wasn't declared as such, is a felony.

Are you serious? About 13 women came forward accusing him of inappropriate advances, there is the video of him bragging about grabbing women, surely this is negative as it gets and he suppose to have paid off just one woman for having consensual sex years ago..... The story deserves to be treated with the bullshit it exists of. :rolleyes:

Damien 27-03-2018 18:40

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35941936)
Are you serious? About 13 women came forward accusing him of inappropriate advances, there is the video of him bragging about grabbing women, surely this is negative as it gets and he suppose to have paid off just one woman for having consensual sex years ago..... The story deserves to be treated with the bullshit it exists of. :rolleyes:

Hugh didn’t say it was a good strategy. Just that if the money was declared its breaking the law.

1andrew1 28-03-2018 23:13

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Meanwhile, on the latest episode of "You're fired" we wave goodbye to Veteran's Affair's secretary David Shulkin.

Quote:

Mr Shulkin's departure follows after months in which he has been locked in a power struggle with some senior White House staff members, who have wanted him to be removed from his post. His leaving suggests that they were eventually able to convince Mr Trump that the Veteran's Affairs secretary needed to go.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8278726.html

Hugh 28-03-2018 23:41

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Replaced by his White House doctor.

Hugh 29-03-2018 12:50

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/28/u...C435CE&gwt=pay
Quote:

Justice Dept. Will Be Investigated Over Surveillance of Trump Campaign OfficialWASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s inspector general, facing increasing political pressure from Republicans in Congress and Attorney General Jeff Sessions, said on Wednesday that his office would investigate the surveillance of a former Trump campaign official.

The announcement came amid a stream of attacks in recent months from the White House and Republican lawmakers seeking to undermine the special counsel’s investigation into Russian interference in the presidential election.

The inspector general, Michael E. Horowitz, said he would examine whether law enforcement officials complied with the law and departmental policies in seeking permission from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to wiretap the former campaign adviser, Carter Page. Law enforcement officials had long had concerns that Mr. Page, a former investment banker based in Moscow, was acting as a Russian agent.

Republicans have seized on details about the court-ordered surveillance of Mr. Page as evidence that the Justice Department abused its authority in the Russia investigation. Mr. Horowitz did not name Mr. Page in his announcement.

Mr. Horowitz said he would also review what the Justice Department and the F.B.I. knew at the time about a former British spy and longtime F.B.I. source, Christopher Steele, who provided information about Mr. Page that was included in the surveillance application.
This can only be a good thing - if wrongdoing happened, it can be exposed and those who did it prosecuted/disciplined; if not, it should mean this isn't relevant anymore.

Mick 29-03-2018 13:27

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Oh it’s very relevant. Further text messages from the disgraced FBI Agents. (Makes you wonder what these clowns did all day, texting each other), further texts highlight the real possibility, the Obama White House, FBI, CIA (Under Brennan) were in full collusion with each other to bring down Trump in the event of a Trump Presidency.

The FISA abuses and the heavy bias with the agents wanting a Crooked Hillary Presidency, clearing her email investigation, when there was very clear breaches of the law on classified emails being found etc etc....

A second special prosecutor is needed. The OIG does not have prosecutorial powers and can not force people to testify. He has yet to release his extensive report on Crooked Hillary’s email Investigation and other potential conduct with the DoJ during the Obama Administration.

Hugh 29-03-2018 15:59

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
I would have thought it more appropriate that the OIG of the Justice Department does what their job is - impartial oversight and investigation of the previous investigations; that's literally its job, as it is a nonpartisan oversight branch charged with detecting and deterring misconduct within the Department of Justice. The FBI and its director answer to the DOJ and its head, the attorney general.

No one, on either side, can then claim bias over the outcomes.

If Strzok was such a big Clinton fan, and so opposed to President Biff, why did he draft the letter about reopening Clinton’s email server investigation, but also supported reopening the investigation just before the election?

And it seems to get overlooked that there were texts that criticized Clinton, Clinton’s team, the Obama administration, Congress and other Democrats.

---------- Post added at 15:59 ---------- Previous post was at 14:15 ----------

Quote:

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump


I have stated my concerns with Amazon long before the Election. Unlike others, they pay little or no taxes to state & local governments, use our Postal System as their Delivery Boy (causing tremendous loss to the U.S.), and are putting many thousands of retailers out of business!
12.57PM - 29 Mar 2018
Amazon pays sales taxes in all the US States and DC, except the five that don't have sales tax.

Everyone uses the US Postal Service as their Delivery Boy - that is the main reason for their existence, and Amazon, just like everyone else, pays for that service. Package delivery is one of the USPS growth areas, helping keep it in business.

Dude111 30-03-2018 22:06

Three top cable news networks cut away from Trump speech
 
Even Fox couldnt stay with that nonsense :D

Quote:

It started just after 2 p.m, but within 30 minutes of Trump taking the stage CNN and MSNBC cut away to discussions with analysts and to report other news. Fox News remained on the speech for about ten minutes longer, according to social media reports, before cutting away also.
Three top cable news networks cut away from Trump speech | TheHill

Some lowlights

Quote:

He complained about Hillary Clinton and the 2016 election, which concluded over 508 days ago.

He said he didn’t understand the concept of community college, while also alleging, “Nobody ever heard of the word trillion until ten years ago.”

Trump even blamed President Barack Obama for judicial vacancies actually created by his legislative ally, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

At one point, he even spoke at length about the ratings for the revival of comedian Roseanne Barr’s TV show.

The connection to “infrastructure” was non-existent.
http://shareblue.com/cable-news-trump-speech-fox-news

1andrew1 31-03-2018 09:42

Re: Three top cable news networks cut away from Trump speech
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 35942207)

That sounds like the usual Trump speech, trying to blame everyone but himself. I do hope that the US invests more in its infrastructure but the signs aren't good.

More worrying in that article was the corruption it highlighted in the Trump regime, with lobbying rising to a seven-year high. No so much draining the swamp but feeding the crocodiles in it! https://shareblue.com/lobbying-incre...dc-corruption/

Dude111 31-03-2018 19:47

Its crazy that there is still as many supporters as there are!!!

Arthurgray50@blu 31-03-2018 21:38

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
I was under the impression that if DT hotels are making money. Then he is has a 'conflict of Interest' as being President.

I believe he stated that he would pass over ALL his business interest to his family ?

Mick 01-04-2018 01:55

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 35942240)
Its crazy that there is still as many supporters as there are!!!

I think it is crazy that Crooked Hillary has her core supporters still 'with her', despite knowing what we know now, that she cheated Bernie Sanders.... in the debates and funded the Fusion GPS Dossier along with the corrupted DNC, that's the Democrats, compiled by Steele, in which he is alleged to have garnered intel from Russians, intel that was not verified. That to me, right there, is the collusion.

But yeah, it's really bat shit crazy that the U.S economy is doing fantastic, jobs up and social security claimant count lowest it's been since 1973... Jobs up for blacks, Hispanics and women.... and the latest that there could finally be a Peaceful resolution in the Korea Peninsula... all the above happening under a Trump Presidency.

I mean removing yours and others hate aside, which is by far irrelevant, he is enacting practically everything he campaigned on. (Some requires Congress to approve).

I think it's really selfish that because you hate something or someone so much, the haters want that something or someone to fail, bit like those who hate Brexit here, they cannot stand the fact that the UK has done well despite a 'Leave' win result. It's all very pathetic. :rolleyes:

papa smurf 01-04-2018 10:41

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35942262)
I think it is crazy that Crooked Hillary has her core supporters still 'with her', despite knowing what we know now, that she cheated Bernie Sanders.... in the debates and funded the Fusion GPS Dossier along with the corrupted DNC, that's the Democrats, compiled by Steele, in which he is alleged to have garnered intel from Russians, intel that was not verified. That to me, right there, is the collusion.

But yeah, it's really bat shit crazy that the U.S economy is doing fantastic, jobs up and social security claimant count lowest it's been since 1973... Jobs up for blacks, Hispanics and women.... and the latest that there could finally be a Peaceful resolution in the Korea Peninsula... all the above happening under a Trump Presidency.

I mean removing yours and others hate aside, which is by far irrelevant, he is enacting practically everything he campaigned on. (Some requires Congress to approve).

I think it's really selfish that because you hate something or someone so much, the haters want that something or someone to fail, bit like those who hate Brexit here, they cannot stand the fact that the UK has done well despite a 'Leave' win result. It's all very pathetic. :rolleyes:



1Exactly1 ;)

passingbat 01-04-2018 10:42

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35942262)
I think it is crazy that Crooked Hillary has her core supporters still 'with her', despite knowing what we know now, that she cheated Bernie Sanders.... in the debates and funded the Fusion GPS Dossier along with the corrupted DNC, that's the Democrats, compiled by Steele, in which he is alleged to have garnered intel from Russians, intel that was not verified. That to me, right there, is the collusion.

But yeah, it's really bat shit crazy that the U.S economy is doing fantastic, jobs up and social security claimant count lowest it's been since 1973... Jobs up for blacks, Hispanics and women.... and the latest that there could finally be a Peaceful resolution in the Korea Peninsula... all the above happening under a Trump Presidency.

I mean removing yours and others hate aside, which is by far irrelevant, he is enacting practically everything he campaigned on. (Some requires Congress to approve).

I think it's really selfish that because you hate something or someone so much, the haters want that something or someone to fail, bit like those who hate Brexit here, they cannot stand the fact that the UK has done well despite a 'Leave' win result. It's all very pathetic. :rolleyes:


Brilliantly summarised again Mick.

Damien 02-04-2018 08:44

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35942262)

But yeah, it's really bat shit crazy that the U.S economy is doing fantastic, jobs up and social security claimant count lowest it's been since 1973... Jobs up for blacks, Hispanics and women.... and the latest that there could finally be a Peaceful resolution in the Korea Peninsula... all the above happening under a Trump Presidency.

Just to clarify here they have been multiple 'deals' that eventually fell though with N.Korea.

1andrew1 02-04-2018 09:55

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 35942240)
Its crazy that there is still as many supporters as there are!!!

Exactly. Crooked Hillary not jailed. Mexicans not agreed to pay for the wall and no sign of it being funded by the US. Sackings of key staff and advisers every couple of weeks like it's a long-running series of The Apprentice. NRA still omni-powerful despite Trump saying he would take them on. Special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation hangs over Trump with the latest being that Erik Prince, a close campaign adviser to Donald Trump, met Kirill Dmitriev a Russian financier with direct ties to Vladimir Putin's family in the weeks leading up to Mr Trump's inauguration.

I think it's fair to say that the economy has continued its upward trajectory when Trump took over but many other areas have been somewhat lacklustre. I think the Trump regime is now learning from some of its mistakes. Certainly, his recent talk at the Gridiron Club dinner was largely a triumph. Korea and trade negotiations are big unknowns which he can build a legacy on if either comes off.

OLD BOY 02-04-2018 11:34

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35942332)
Just to clarify here they have been multiple 'deals' that eventually fell though with N.Korea.

That is very true, but maybe this time...

I think the American Government should take care not to take North Korea at its word before it gives anything significant away. Let's see the nuclear plants being decommissioned before Kim gets anything to shout about.

passingbat 02-04-2018 14:06

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35942345)

I think the American Government should take care not to take North Korea at its word before it gives anything significant away. Let's see the nuclear plants being decommissioned before Kim gets anything to shout about.

Trump has said that is the plan.

Mick 02-04-2018 15:17

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
When Kim was in China last week, he was suppose to have been read the riot act by the China President, "Make this work, or else."

It is in China's best interest to not have a failed State, right on it's Southern Border, a State that could be occupied by either South Korea or the U.S, if ever NK decided to not play ball and start a deadly war that it would lose and be utterly annihilated.

BREAKING: Associated Press is running with a report that the Kremlin has stated that Trump invited Putin to the White House, no date has been set.

Should turn some heads in DC as well as heads here in UK, as it should. it is misguided IMO. I understand the need for diplomacy. But you don't throw each others diplomats out of the Country, shut down Consulates and then next day, send an invite for chit chat at tea time. (See, I do criticise Trump when he does things I totally do not agree with).

https://apnews.com/b0229c16ae2148b1be5c8e71bb9f2427

OLD BOY 02-04-2018 19:58

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35942354)
When Kim was in China last week, he was suppose to have been read the riot act by the China President, "Make this work, or else."

It is in China's best interest to not have a failed State, right on it's Southern Border, a State that could be occupied by either South Korea or the U.S, if ever NK decided to not play ball and start a deadly war that it would lose and be utterly annihilated.

BREAKING: Associated Press is running with a report that the Kremlin has stated that Trump invited Putin to the White House, no date has been set.

Should turn some heads in DC as well as heads here in UK, as it should. it is misguided IMO. I understand the need for diplomacy. But you don't throw each others diplomats out of the Country, shut down Consulates and then next day, send an invite for chit chat at tea time. (See, I do criticise Trump when he does things I totally do not agree with).

https://apnews.com/b0229c16ae2148b1be5c8e71bb9f2427

Maybe The Donald plans to put some nerve agent on the White House door knocker.

RizzyKing 03-04-2018 03:09

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Right now Trump is behaving very erratically and there is clearly a huge disconnect between him and everyone else at the top level and Trump acting as though he's still on reality tv firing anyone who doesn't agree with him is only going to make matters much worse. An invite to putin right now sends the opposite signal that should be sent right now and this will hit him domestically as well as even the most diehard Trump supporters are scratching their heads right now. Even in the military support for him is declining and senior military are getting frustrated by the lack of decisive directions in relation to foreign policy.

As for North Korea having their main supplier of high quality fuel turn off the tap has played a bigger part in their change of attitude then anything else.

1andrew1 03-04-2018 13:27

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Encouraging to see people are alert to Trump's foreign policy weaknesses.

Hopefully, he is receiving similar feedback from his remaining advisers and will start to make foreign policy more strategically and less driven by early-morning tweets.

Mick 03-04-2018 13:38

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
I do not agree he has been weak, the stance on North Korea proved the opposite, if the meeting they have planned works out. Other issues have been misguided. His approach to Russia is troubling. Chucking out 60 Russian diplomats and closing a Russian consulate, is not weak either, his new Security Advisor is not Russia friendly, neither is Mike Pompeo, the new Secretary of State.

RizzyKing 03-04-2018 14:48

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
I'm not so sure Trump had much to do with the expulsions to be honest i think that was more likely the state department and Trump gave the invite to Putin as a slap in the face for the state department for the expulsions. I really hoped Trump would rise to the job of president but he hasn't he's still acting as though he's just a businessman with the inability he had to take onboard anyone's opinion or view if it differs from his. There's been a definate attitude change amongst my american friends who voted for Trump and a shortening of patience for his silliness it's all starting to wear a bit thin.


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