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The issue here is. The current serving President is spending time, a lot of time, I might add by the way and money, while in Office, campaigning for a candidate under FBI Investigation. Am I the only one who finds that troubling ? Or again are those rose tinted specs for Hillary, blindling folk again, seems to be the case. :rolleyes: |
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Chill out Michael, mind the blood pressure! Seems you are looking for all the positives from one side and the negatives from the other.
President Trump will for a while be very amusing, but after a few months be a disaster for the world. Clinton has no more dirt on her than most other US presidents, maybe Obama excepted. Seems to go with the job. Some inconsequential emails not secure? We've probably all done something unintentionally wrong at work. Hardly the multitude of sexual allegations at Trumps door, and his tax avoidance. |
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Over 30,000 emails deleted after an investigation is underway is not what I'd call inconsequential in fairness and there does appear to have been wrongdoing on Clinton's part that she got out of easily because the FBI made a total balls up of the investigation. For me personally the emails are another example of Clinton's judgement and other events contribute to the serious doubts over her ability to use sound judgement and her response to bad judgement doesn't inspire confidence at all.
Now don't put me down as a trump supporter i cannot stand him personally or what he stands for and his judgement skills are not brilliant either nor his business acumen that he shouts about a fair bit. What americans have for choice in this election is pathetic and completely devisive on their society, whoever wins is going to be spending an awful lot of time just trying to unite america again and neither of these candidates convince me they can. |
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FBI investigated and found there was nothing worth pursuing. The latest reinvestigation seems to be a political stunt. Incompetence at worst, not the criminal allegations against Trump. They are 2 rotten candidates for sure.
I wish Sanders had run. On the face of it there's no chance a left wing politician could win in the US. However against Trump he might well have done by a larger margin than Clinton. |
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I feel, if anyone gets indicted, caught or whatever, it'll be John Podesta and not Clinton. Clinton will take damage for it but I feel like it's all on Podesta. It's easier to just watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amMsn3dfVU4 US Congressman Jim Jordan Quote:
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As for the Sexual Allegations aimed at Trump, that is all they are, and I found it highly suspicious that one after the other, all eleven of them cropped up within the space of a week or so, saying that he either kissed them or groped them. Those have been largely debunked and as Trump states, they were more than likely, made up by the DNC sleazy campaign, who have been caught out by the way, according to Project Veritas, trying to incite violence at previous Trump rallies, like the one in Chicago. The Tax avoidance, he addressed in the debates and he has routinely openly admitted at his rallies, that he used the same loop holes, legally, that Hillary's donors used and she had 30 years to change those rules but she didn't because it would also affect her donors. I wonder how many of those Celebrities coming out to endorse crooked Hillary, are using Tax havens to avoid paying full Tax ? So crooked Hillary is a little bit hypocritical when it comes to Tax avoidance. http://www.ibtimes.com/political-cap...ump-exploiting |
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When do we get the results show like we do for our own? Any idea's on the start time and how long it usually runs? Yearly physical intervention refresher from this Monday till Friday :td: and a follow up exam of course to make sure I still know what colour fire extinguisher's are.
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We should know ourselves early though. For example if Clinton wins either both or one of Florida/NC and holds Pennsylvania? Then she has won. If Trump takes Pennsylvania then he might well be on to win (as long as he takes Florida and NC). If he takes Florida and NC but not Pennsylvania then we have to wait for the states further West. |
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Look, I have said many times, Trump is no Angel, but he is the better option out of the two available. I even said I supported Hillary until I learned how crooked and corrupt she was and I don't let biased media cloud my judgement on Trump like some do, because let's face it, the biased media aren't exactly covering all the negative press on her, they're more than happy to cover anything for Trump, he only has to fart in the wrong direction and they'd cover it. Quote:
Well they haven't exactly been proven true have they? I could ask when were they proven ? Anyone can make an allegation, doesn't mean they are always true and given the nature of how all these suddenly came forward, it's just a little too suspicious. |
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Anyway I know what the basis of his claim is. It isn't that money went though the foundation but that she takes donations from the same people who allegedly fund ISIS. Saudi Arabia. Now I don't actually know the extent to which the Saudis fund ISIS, this stuff always seem layered between conspiracy and truth. However whilst Clinton receiving donations from the Saudis is a valid criticism it's also one that applies to one Donald J Trump: http://www.redstate.com/kylefoley/20...-saudi-arabia/ Quote:
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None of which amounts to proof, a respect for the concept of innocent until proven guilty that should extent to Clinton as well, but certainly makes me question this claim of those allegations being debunked. |
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Well the evidence in the emails speaks for itself Damien, regarding HC.
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Trump rushed off the stage / Possible firearm involved ?
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Saying on BBC that a guy trying to grab a cops gun or something at the rally, as his supporters are security screened before entry.
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What was the Army doing there ?
I know there has been some intelligence to suggest their could be a Terrorist attack around Election day, but did not think they would do this at rallies, unless the threat is substantial. Any way, that cop in that pic, the one in the middle to the left of the protester, looks like Jason Bourne (Matt Damon). What you think ? ---------- Post added at 06:11 ---------- Previous post was at 05:35 ---------- Oh dear, how embarrassing for Crooked Hillary. College Student calls out Hillary at her own, 'small' rally attended by Bernie Sanders and gets applauded and then removed by security. |
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No gun. He was about to lift a sign. Someone shouted 'gun' and all hell broke loose. The protester has been released.
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They couldn't identify who shouted gun
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At that rally he was probably the only one who didn't have a gun ! Land of the free my backside, the guy got assaulted just for holding a placard. Sign of things to come if Trump wins.
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I cant seem to get my head around how the voting system works over there compared to ours.
Do people have to register an affiliation to a party when they register to vote? |
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But I wouldn't expect anything less from you and your narrow-minded view just to distort the facts, after all, you're no better when you call people thick/stupid, who vote opposite to you! :dozey: ---------- Post added at 10:58 ---------- Previous post was at 10:57 ---------- Quote:
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Don't forget America is highly politically. The Presidential race is the tip of a very big iceberg. They vote for all sorts of things down to local district representation. ---------- Post added at 11:04 ---------- Previous post was at 11:02 ---------- Deadspin have intercut the video of Obama dealing with the protestor at the rally the other day with Trump's version of what happened: http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/did...did-1788612955 :disturbd: |
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There heavily armed cops. IMHO it all show. Plus Trump lied again, "Nothings going to stop us" as he came back after stopping over a man holding a sign :D I'm despairing over Trump, Joey Essex would do a better job |
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None of us will get much sleep if he's elected. Looking at him last might, maybe even he is having second thoughts. |
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I'm despairing over Trump, Joey Essex would do a better job
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He is not having seconds thoughts, shows how much you know and you have the audacity, to suggest other people are thick or stupid ? You won't get much sleep with crooked Hillary, with her posturing with Russia and bad judgement regarding her polices on Syria and Libya, the World really would be in trouble with her as President, that's if she don't get indicted and impeached first. ---------- Post added at 15:03 ---------- Previous post was at 14:59 ---------- Quote:
Also... Just a little reminder about the DNC being caught on tape inciting violence at Trump rallies. Neither candidate can take the moral high ground here and neither can you. |
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Hispanic voters look set to break records: https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...bb4_story.html
Someone on Politico also said that Trump has stopped internal polling which would be weird. If he loses the books about the campaign will be amazing. Especially if it's true that he won't accept negative polling. ---------- Post added at 18:03 ---------- Previous post was at 17:49 ---------- Why the election is close: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/up...in-common.html |
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Trump certainly seemed to have second thoughts after someone shouted 'gun' last night. He had to off the stage to change his trousers (as would we all !) Maybe he'll now consider the repercussions of stirring up so much hatred from all quarters. As for thick/stupid - don't recall being that blunt, but it's difficult to understand how anyone with any sense right or left, could vote for him. It seems a lot of the more informed/credible Republicans can't. Damiens link does suggest his support is coming from the less educated vote. |
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One gunman's actions don't speak for many.
Obama has had at least four legitimate attempts on his life that we know about. From Racists, to Jesus Christ himself. Whether people actually like it or not, he's running a campaign and utilizing freedom of speech, if people take offence to that then they have that right. They don't have the right to produce a firearm and attempt to shoot him though regardless of what he's said. He shouldn't re-consider anything, it's his right as well as the rest of the countries. You get to do the shooting with a ballot paper not a firearm. Luckily there's no actual weapon but still. |
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I did mention a while back that assassination or attempted assassination seems to be the prefered method for Americans to register their disapproval of their president :) |
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There wasn't a gunman. It was a conventional protest and someone else shouted, either mistakenly or with malice intent, that he had a gun and then confusion reigned until the protester was released and it was confirmed there was no gun.
Trump should consider his language because he dehumanises people, angers his base and borders on inciting violence but he shouldn't consider it because of any threat against him. In the latter case the fault lies with the person threatening violence. |
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But the news just keeps getting worse for Crooked Hillary with reports today that she directed her maid to print out Classified emails, you know someone who does NOT have clearance to handle them. http://nypost.com/2016/11/06/clinton...ied-materials/ And if that was bad... Wikileaks reveals today that...the Clinton Foundation paid for Crooked Hillary's daughters wedding (Chelsea) and life for a decade.... Quote:
And people want an idiot, like her in the seat of one of the most powerful leaders of the World. Right, okay then. :erm: |
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As already stated, to you or someone else, who said this, JFK was not an unpopular President at the time of his assassination. 70% Approval rating. But I seriously hope people are not justifying death or murder of a leader just because they despise them so much, I despise the Clintons for what they have done to the American people (and in most part the World) but I would absolutely condemn any form of malicious violent act towards them. We should move away from this line of discussion IMO. |
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Looks like the FBI are going to reveal something about the e-mails today...two days before the election
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From what I've understood is, what the FBI have done is highly unusual and some say illegal, this close to votong day.
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I think the FBI would have wanted to find something given the significance of the announcement last Friday. Idiotic.
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So the only charge they could have ever brought against Clinton disappeared with 'Ipleadthefifth' Combetta then, which wouldn't have been about anything in the emails but rather the instruction to tamper or destroy evidence under investigation. Comey botched that then found nothing here. I don't think he's between a rock and a hard place anymore, he's buried. Given that they found nothing in the E-mails they did have the first time round and the Combetta thing being unrelated to the actual contents then it seems daft now to have chased this one.
Barring something not boring from Wikileaks, we'll get a fair voting night without the BS. |
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... and yet people still think our electoral system is rubbish. :D
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Corney just loves the attention maybe. Seems to have timed this for maximum attention.
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Maybe his future employers are watching. :dunce:
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This is probably too late. It might help Clinton a bit but it's far too late. Early voting already accounts for 1/3rd of the electorate and we'll never know if there has any bounce at all from the investigation ending.
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I've been watching /r/Conspiracy, following their incredibly hilariously disturbing election posts, they're crying fix and claim they've all been robbed. Lizard people have won :D
If anyone's wondering, that's where that pretty messed up and absurd Pizza party stuff led me. |
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/r/Conspiracy is way too extreme, a load of people putting together nonsense then screaming fix when it gets undone. |
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http://news.sky.com/story/fbi-no-evi...mails-10648486
Just seen on Sky News. See, it was probably a fit up up by the Republican Chief. To try and reck the election |
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This might help anybody who was wavering between voting and Clinton or not? So hard the judge the impact, no more polls to measure this now.
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Wikileaks = The campaign manager's e-mails. FBI investigation = Her state department e-mails. |
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There was to be at least some chance he writes another letter tomorrow?
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What did Trump say again - this is bigger than watergate?
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40 million have already have voted, who investigates the FBI ?
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This might end up being quite bad. So many people have voted. The ramifications for the FBI won't end here.
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I wonder what the US electorate would have made of JFK's* antics had wikileaks been around at the time. Mind you he was charming and looked good in a sharp suit...
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Apparently these e-mails were duplicates of the ones they've already investigated (i.e they had them from Clinton's server).
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I can't help wondering about how the next election in 4 years can top this one...
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Another batch of emails released from Wikileaks.
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It literally says just above then it you had in bold that it's personalised. For example I am just seeing sports stuff this morning.
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What Obama said when a trump supporter turned up and what Trump claims Obama did
Watch the videos but its pretty clear Trump is a liar http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-disgrace.html |
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He did, he got that fundamentally wrong and I put that down to him not actually watching it and or interpreting it right either that or the campaign team have and they have not read the situation right either and fed him duff information. Vast majority of Trump supporters, are anti-Obama, so he's feeding them a narrative, telling them what they want to hear. I don't think it would have fitted in with their agenda, Trump praising Obama. Trump wins supporters, I guess by dissing the current serving President and Hillary, which let's face it, the pair do not have a good track records while in Office. |
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I hate negative campaigning and would be more reluctant to vote for anyone who spent their time denigrating their opponents that stating what they want to positively do. Other agree and is likely one reason our local MP retained his seat with increased majority.
Would be fun if the American public went out and voted for one of the "others" en-mass. Just to see the look on the faces of both Trump and Clinton when neither get in. |
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i don't like the crazy lady i think she's a wrong un .
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I mean some idiot who was buying a gun said "Hillary is a Satanist, and worships Satan." And this guy was allowed to buy a gun :shocked: |
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