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data0002 19-03-2014 23:19

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35681673)
Interesting, I didn't know it worked like that. I thought all three services were under one bill/contract.

That's what they told me anyway when i asked them, did phone 3 or 4 times just to check before i added the 2nd Tivo

telfordcable 19-03-2014 23:39

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35681632)
No one will get a sh2 automatically if they have a sh1

Mine did. Virgin replaced my superhub 1 to superhub 2 for free of charge last year. But, my virgin media 152/12 is dreadful painful slow all day getting 27/5 with SH2 (no wifi) just ethernet

My Broadband Ping

qasdfdsaq 19-03-2014 23:57

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35681673)
Interesting, I didn't know it worked like that. I thought all three services were under one bill/contract.

They're all on the same bill but do not have the same minimum term.

Signing up to broadband for example if you had a TV only subscription would not extend the minimum term on your TV service.

BenMcr 20-03-2014 00:37

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35681673)
Interesting, I didn't know it worked like that. I thought all three services were under one bill/contract.

Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35681709)
They're all on the same bill but do not have the same minimum term.

Signing up to broadband for example if you had a TV only subscription would not extend the minimum term on your TV service.

It's really all dependent on what you do and what offer you go for

Adding TiVo onto an existing TV subscription and making no other changes would only recontract the TV as that's the only service that's changing

However, adding TiVo and moving to a Collection would recontract all the services as the offer is a whole service price.

telfordcable 20-03-2014 00:45

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Telfordcable -> http://s23.postimg.org/r7nplaaif/wel...7318118053.jpg

data0002 20-03-2014 01:30

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Mind you, my first question wasn't answered, if i drop down the broadband to a lower speed would that put my broadband under a new contract

alanbjames 20-03-2014 02:49

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
it shouldnt do data.

data0002 20-03-2014 04:12

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35681728)
it shouldnt do data.

Thank you for the reply, will give them a ring tomorrow

RobboEdin 20-03-2014 10:21

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by data0002 (Post 35681726)
Mind you, my first question wasn't answered, if i drop down the broadband to a lower speed would that put my broadband under a new contract

You have had the answer to that by inference. Maybe yes, maybe no. It depends on your current situation and whether the new situation includes some offer that requires a new minimum period.

fastphil 20-03-2014 11:49

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
got upgraded to 152mb quite happy phoned retentions says i was going to leave & the girl automatically upgraded me was not ment to get it till july at the earliest she says they have been told to do the upgrade without question by higher managers

daggerer 25-03-2014 00:09

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Got a surprise update tonight, yet on my virgin media it states "between January 2015 and June 2015" so quite odd.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/03/14.png

Trent 25-03-2014 17:59

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
I To was upgraded today not supposed to be till July this year

eljay 25-03-2014 20:14

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trent (Post 35683200)
I To was upgraded today not supposed to be till July this year

Lets hope it happens elsewhere as mine as gone from Sept14-Dec 14 to Sept14 - Feb 15. This happened to me on the last doubling and guess what I got it on the last day of the delayed period. Deja vu comes to mind.

Mind you recently got a letter saying Virgin Media services have now arrived in my area. I have only had it for three years!!!

Then there are still some broadband web sites say its not available at all in my area.

Me thinks everything is just dross and pot luck is the only true guide.

ultimate 25-03-2014 21:03

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
My upgrade is due this August, I am getting burst of 90mbit/s down and definitely 6mbit/s up. Christmas came early????

clayts 26-03-2014 00:13

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Shot up from 20 to 50 MB today - wasn't expecting this increase for ages.

Only found out when I got an email from Virgin sending me a breakdown of my bill, which seemed a bit odd, until I read the rest of the small print (and I mean small print) and logged into My Virgin Media to see it had happened.

StevenNT 26-03-2014 10:07

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clayts (Post 35683319)
Shot up from 20 to 50 MB today - wasn't expecting this increase for ages.

Only found out when I got an email from Virgin sending me a breakdown of my bill, which seemed a bit odd, until I read the rest of the small print (and I mean small print) and logged into My Virgin Media to see it had happened.

I've received the same e-mail, I'm at work at present so can't confirm if mines gone up, but VM says it has. Will check later to confirm it.

Kushan 26-03-2014 11:05

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So has Virgin just rolled this out for chunks of the country or is this a mistake?

BenMcr 26-03-2014 11:07

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It's for those who pre-registered their interest for the upgrades and already have compatible kit.

Kushan 26-03-2014 11:16

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Nice one. Actually impressed.

clayts 26-03-2014 13:16

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35683360)
It's for those who pre-registered their interest for the upgrades and already have compatible kit.

Thanks for clarifying, Ben.

A most unexpected surprise, and a nice one too :)

pythagoras 26-03-2014 13:17

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
I preregistered my interest and have a super hub 2 but no email or upgrade. Any reasons you could think of Ben?

Regards

John

BenMcr 26-03-2014 13:32

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It's possible that they are still working through those that pre-registered.

Kabaal 26-03-2014 13:49

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Just a word of warning for those who phoned up for the 'free' bump to 152mb along with a loyalty discount. My new bill is now in and is £100 even though i usually pay £46 and the new deal is meant to bring it down to £35.99. Lass on the phone says it's something to do with the dates the system changes the package and there'll be a £44 credit on the bill after this one... still a shock to see the £100 when i wasn't expecting it.

Grimpy 26-03-2014 14:17

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Mine wasn't supposed to be done until the end of the year (South Tyneside) and just noticed this:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/03/12.png

Lee 26-03-2014 14:17

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
got my upgrade today too, Huddersfield area.

raging bull 26-03-2014 15:29

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Done in Leeds area [LS13]

gotcabled 26-03-2014 15:51

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mine done yesterday GL4;)

garethp 26-03-2014 15:58

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
hmmph!
My esitmated dates have slipped a few times.
First was January 2014 then March 2014, then August 2014, now today it is May 2015 :(

JPAC 26-03-2014 16:54

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Grr, mine's gone back another month.

---------- Post added at 15:54 ---------- Previous post was at 15:52 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35683420)
Just a word of warning for those who phoned up for the 'free' bump to 152mb along with a loyalty discount. My new bill is now in and is £100 even though i usually pay £46 and the new deal is meant to bring it down to £35.99. Lass on the phone says it's something to do with the dates the system changes the package and there'll be a £44 credit on the bill after this one... still a shock to see the £100 when i wasn't expecting it.

That still doesn't add up. Makes me scared to call VM.

StevenNT 26-03-2014 16:56

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yep mine has gone live overnight. Was not expected until sometime between August 2014 and Jan 2015.

So now automatically upgraded to 100/6 from 60/3

ileikcaek 26-03-2014 18:38

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
The dates for me have now changed from August 2014 -January 2015 to December 2014 - May 2015... Absolutely madness if it's going to take 14 months, the second push back so far.

clayts 27-03-2014 00:17

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Ben - slightly OT, but in my existing customer offers it says I can increase to 100 MB for 60p extra per month ! I presume if I were to take this, I'd lose any loyalty bonuses ?

love Virgin2013 27-03-2014 02:32

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i got upgraded yesterday but on speedtests im not getting near the 152 Meg.

this is from one i just did

http://www.speedtest.net/result/3398405592.png

dgcarter 27-03-2014 10:00

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Mine isn't yet done (Bradford) However, can anyone spot the difference here?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/03/9.png

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/03/10.png

That's right one of them is wired, the other one is wireless. It's the second one that is wireless.

Sephiroth 27-03-2014 10:59

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@ dgcarter

Moment in time, perhaps?

dgcarter 27-03-2014 12:08

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35683725)
@ dgcarter

Moment in time, perhaps?

2 minutes apart, and then repeated with the same result.

showshifter 27-03-2014 12:42

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
I was upgraded from 60Mb to 100Mb about a week ago.

Since then from 7.30pm to around 10.30pm I have no internet and am hoping I have it long enough this morning to post this.

Am really fed up with it. :mad:

raging bull 27-03-2014 15:05

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Those people who have been upgraded have you come across a website for testing upload/download?
Bearing in mind most stop at 100meg on clock scale.

Kabaal 27-03-2014 15:19

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raging bull (Post 35683794)
Those people who have been upgraded have you come across a website for testing upload/download?
Bearing in mind most stop at 100meg on clock scale.

Speedtest.net is the main one and fine for these speeds. It even works fine from out 1GB/s work servers.

Synthetic 27-03-2014 16:45

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raging bull (Post 35683794)
Those people who have been upgraded have you come across a website for testing upload/download?
Bearing in mind most stop at 100meg on clock scale.

I find the Namesco one in London seems to give the most accurate results

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/03/8.png

Gavin-D 27-03-2014 17:50

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Just got an e-mail upgrade just taken place wasn't due till the summer

:)

Jumping 27-03-2014 19:46

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Hmm nice for people that got upgraded mine now slipped to January 2015 and June 2015 wasnt that long when it first said March 14 and then Aug 14....feels rather unfair considering Uddingston was like the last to get 120mbit and if you are new customers you can get 150mbit. Treating loyal customer right always high on priories for Virginmedia,

Dave42 27-03-2014 22:05

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got mine today very happy


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djfunkdup 27-03-2014 23:51

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Upgrade Gone live 'Glasgow' :D:D:D


https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/03/4.png


+ London Test



https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/03/5.png

deakin 28-03-2014 18:02

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by djfunkdup (Post 35684006)
Upgrade Gone live 'Glasgow'

Where are you in Glasgow as the south east/G72 is still on 120Mb.

Jumping 28-03-2014 18:59

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by djfunkdup (Post 35684006)

Did you just get it or phoned retention and got upgraded?

denphone 28-03-2014 19:17

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Well the message which said between May and June this year has now been replaced by this.

Quote:

You can supercharge your speed from up to 120Mb broadband to up to 152Mb between June 2014 and August 2014. We'll contact you when it's ready.

Gavin-D 28-03-2014 21:57

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Now on the 100mb speed

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MUD_Wizard 30-03-2014 21:15

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raging bull (Post 35683794)
Those people who have been upgraded have you come across a website for testing upload/download?
Bearing in mind most stop at 100meg on clock scale.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest.html always gives accurate results for me.

---------- Post added at 20:15 ---------- Previous post was at 20:11 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by djfunkdup (Post 35684006)
Upgrade Gone live 'Glasgow' :D:D:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by deakin (Post 35684227)
Where are you in Glasgow as the south east/G72 is still on 120Mb.


Had 152Mb for about 3.5 weeks now in Glasgow G42 Mount Florida area.

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...n/td-p/2208191


They've upgraded everyone who pre-registered for the supercharge as long as the area can support the speeds (and some that can't from what I've observed on the VM forum).

qasdfdsaq 31-03-2014 06:22

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
So what you're saying is, they've upgraded some people, in some areas...

Rankrotten 31-03-2014 13:04

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I'm in Glasgow, G14 area, pre-registered and not had the upgrade pushed over so it must be that my area on the Broomhill ubr is struggling to support the new speeds without a network upgrade.

Still using a VMNG300 modem on 120mb with four downstreams and no problems with maxing it out at full speed when required but with the introduction of eight downstreams it looks like the ineviatable swap for a super hub will be required on 152mb.

BenMcr 31-03-2014 13:05

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The reason you won't have got the upgrade is that you don't have compatible kit for 152Mbit

Rankrotten 31-03-2014 13:08

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Ok Ben but I was never offered a super hub as the VMNG300 was a 50mb product which had upgrades to 100 then 120 automatically applied to it. How do i get a SH2 from Virgin (and not a SH1) without paying for one?

BenMcr 31-03-2014 13:13

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Pretty sure you should have got offered a SH last time around when it went from 100 to 120Mbit.

Those that need a SH2 to get their speed upgrade as part of these upgrades arrange it via My VM for £5.99 P&P.

Jumping 31-03-2014 19:42

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Can you still sign up for that pre supercharge or has that boat sailed now?

BenMcr 31-03-2014 19:51

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It sailed in Feburary

ileikcaek 31-03-2014 20:25

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I preregistered interest when it first went up but never saw an early upgrade so I can only assume they decided this area isn't ready though you can order it as a new customer. I just hope I don't have to wait until May 2015 like MyVM says!

Rik 31-03-2014 23:28

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I have the 152Mb upgrade in Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire

Very pleased with downstream, shame about upstream though....

Mustn't grumble though, pretty awesome for a home connection which is cheap as chips really

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/03/2.png

My sig and avatar are there for historical reference :D

Skie 31-03-2014 23:41

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
I too pre-registered and have not had an upgrade. SH2, so should be classed as compatible :p

Kursk 01-04-2014 01:47

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Bah mine's been pushed back too.We always get a bum rap in Wales; may as well follow Scotland into independence. There's nothing 'United' about a Kingdom where some sections of the population are always made to play second fiddle.

Ignitionnet 01-04-2014 01:56

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Melodramatic much?

craigj2k12 01-04-2014 04:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35685133)
We always get a bum rap in Wales

Not true, Barry always used to be 1st in the rollout schedule for major upgrades, 10:1 50Mb and 100Mb to name a few

MUD_Wizard 01-04-2014 04:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35685135)
Melodramatic much?

Careful, they might invade. :)

djfunkdup 01-04-2014 06:49

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deakin (Post 35684227)
Where are you in Glasgow as the south east/G72 is still on 120Mb.



Hi sorry just getting a chance to reply... G4 Area :)

---------- Post added at 05:49 ---------- Previous post was at 05:46 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jumping (Post 35684238)
Did you just get it or phoned retention and got upgraded?


I'm sure i registered a while back,i just did a random speed test and noticed the area had been upgraded.was not meant to be until later on in the year .. ;)

denphone 01-04-2014 08:03

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35685133)
Bah mine's been pushed back too.We always get a bum rap in Wales; may as well follow Scotland into independence. There's nothing 'United' about a Kingdom where some sections of the population are always made to play second fiddle.

Its even worse down here in Deepest Devon Kursk as you can bet your better dollar we are near enough last on the list.

linwelin 01-04-2014 16:44

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Nice VM very nice, mine was suppose to be done sometime in April, i have just checked to see if anything had changed, Your speed supercharge is almost ready, Your speed upgrade will be ready between July 2014 and September 2014.

FK YOU VM!!

MutleyF 01-04-2014 16:58

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Dont see what your upset about .... mine is not due to be done until January and June 2015 !!

denphone 01-04-2014 17:24

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MutleyF (Post 35685261)
Dont see what your upset about .... mine is not due to be done until January and June 2015 !!

:shocked:

Kabaal 01-04-2014 17:25

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
By the time some of you end up getting it you could have phoned up, recontracted and be out of contract again by the time you would get it automatically anyway lol.

Ignitionnet 02-04-2014 02:07

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
In any list there are the people in the front, those in the middle and those at the end. A sense of proportion rather than throwing girly strops at not being first would be awesome. Even 120Mb is still way faster than most can purchase.

Kursk 02-04-2014 02:55

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35685386)
In any list there are the people in the front, those in the middle and those at the end.

And as long as you're at the front everything is hunky dory eh?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35685386)
A sense of proportion rather than throwing girly strops at not being first would be awesome.

Calm down dear (to quote Michael Winner).

Ignitionnet 02-04-2014 17:27

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35685387)
And as long as you're at the front everything is hunky dory eh?

I can't get VM; prior to an FTTC campaign that lasted the best part of 2 years I was on a service that fluctuated between 0.5 and 1.5Mb/s.

When I could get VM my area, Mortlake, was pretty much last to get upgrades due to the network there being in need of overbuild. Looking at the upload upgrades I see poor brow-beaten Barry was already upgraded in the 7th February 2011 schedule, as indeed were Swansea, St Mellons and Cwmbran, in fact they were among the first areas to be done, with Newport East done as of early February. Newport West and Cwmbwrla, the stragglers, were due by July 2011.

The affluent suburb of South-West London I lived in didn't receive the upgrade until over a year later than most of Wales and 6 months after the last areas to be upgraded in the country.

Silly facts; they do tend to get in the way of a good self-pitying rant.

Kursk 02-04-2014 22:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35685516)
I can't get VM; prior to an FTTC campaign that lasted the best part of 2 years I was on a service that fluctuated between 0.5 and 1.5Mb/s.

When I could get VM my area, Mortlake, was pretty much last to get upgrades due to the network there being in need of overbuild. Looking at the upload upgrades I see poor brow-beaten Barry was already upgraded in the 7th February 2011 schedule, as indeed were Swansea, St Mellons and Cwmbran, in fact they were among the first areas to be done, with Newport East done as of early February. Newport West and Cwmbwrla, the stragglers, were due by July 2011.

The affluent suburb of South-West London I lived in didn't receive the upgrade until over a year later than most of Wales and 6 months after the last areas to be upgraded in the country.

Silly facts; they do tend to get in the way of a good self-pitying rant.

You cite Cities (millions of potential customers) against some little place that only Wikipedia has heard of (population, a postman and a man walking a dog).

A business planner is obviously going to prioritise for maximum custom. Of course, once the regular payers are signed up in their millions, you can re-prioritise, and as far as upgrades go, that's what has happened imo.

Affluence is not a qualification for priority. More customers will be secured from a new build estate than from 3-4 affluent residences fronting the river don't you think?

Btw, the 'facts' you mention might have been valid if we were discussing this in 2011. Unfortunately, it is 2014. The only silly thing is quoting them. Will you be mentioning what happened in the war next?

MaverickJesus 02-04-2014 22:39

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I find it hilarious that you casually dismissed an area of Wales being literally first in the queue for a long period of time, but the minute its no longer first and forefront you are on the fringes of waging civil war. Ridiculously hypocritical given your point about the United Kingdom not being united.

Kursk 02-04-2014 22:52

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MaverickJesus (Post 35685613)
I find it hilarious that you casually dismissed an area of Wales being literally first in the queue for a long period of time, but the minute its no longer first and forefront you are on the fringes of waging civil war. Ridiculously hypocritical given your point about the United Kingdom not being united.

Before you split your sides remember as they say a week is a long time in politics; quoting 3 year old figures is a comparative lifetime.

You think the UK is united?

Ignitionnet 03-04-2014 13:16

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35685595)
You cite Cities (millions of potential customers) against some little place that only Wikipedia has heard of (population, a postman and a man walking a dog).

A business planner is obviously going to prioritise for maximum custom. Of course, once the regular payers are signed up in their millions, you can re-prioritise, and as far as upgrades go, that's what has happened imo.

More customers will be secured from a new build estate than from 3-4 affluent residences fronting the river don't you think?

VM's network construction to new builds and the uplift programmes are two completely different things.

The Mortlake hubsite serves the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames pretty much - population ~188,000.

Croydon hubsite was actually completed after Mortlake, population 365,000 and it serves properties outside the borough too.

Both have quite high population density because, well, they're in London. Many of the larger houses in Twickenham, etc, have been converted to flats, houses are tightly packed due to the cost of land and of course Croydon is infamous for apartments.

They were done late because, as I said, their networks needed overbuilding. Nothing to do with population, nothing to do with customer density, they needed extra work so were left until last along with Hawkfield, South Gyle and others. Nothing more.

The exact same criteria hold true now. Barry needs more work before it's ready to go with the new speeds as an all-tier uplift, so it has to wait a bit longer. No discrimination, no sudden hatred from VM / LGI for Wales, the upgrade programme there isn't done yet so the uplift hasn't done.

Because Mortlake and Croydon, as part of the 10:1 upstream upgrade, have been rebuilt recently VM were in a position to give them the upgrades earlier this time around, and have done so.

The order may change, the criteria haven't. Barry was getting it early because the people who originally built the network built it to a high standard, hence VM and before that ntl were able to release upgrades early as the 'leg work' had already been done. The fibre optic node sizes were small, capacity upgrades were relatively easy. Exactly the same situation that there is with Mortlake and Croydon now, shiny freshly overbuilt network so easier to upgrade.

Your arguments seem to fail on all levels. If we're talking about all these potential customers do you know how many uBRs / CMTS Virgin Media have serving the entire Barry hubsite? Must be tons right given they appear to have been prioritising it?

Four:

Name: bary-cmts-04.network.virginmedia.net
Address: 82.13.60.83

Carrying on with the hubsites in Wales that were all done a year before Mortlake -

Swansea - four:

Name: swan-cmts-04.network.virginmedia.net
Address: 82.13.60.113

Cwmbran - three:

Name: cwbn-cmts-03.network.virginmedia.net
Address: 82.13.60.95

St Mellons - three:

Name: stme-cmts-03.network.virginmedia.net
Address: 82.13.60.141

Newport East - five:

Name: new2-cmts-05.network.virginmedia.net
Address: 82.13.60.96

The population of a postie and a man walking a dog in Mortlake seem to require six of them.

Name: mort-cmts-06.network.virginmedia.net
Address: 82.7.206.183

That lightly populated backside of nowhere Croydon, it must not even have a man walking a dog given VM left it until even later than Mortlake, with April 2012, twenty three.

Name: croy-cmts-23.network.virginmedia.net
Address: 82.7.207.240

Also late to the party, not done until April 2012 was South Gyle:

Name: sgyl-cmts-36.network.virginmedia.net
Address: 82.7.207.15

You can't even say that it's the reverse where smaller sites were done before larger ones; Newport East, with its 5 CMTS was done before Newport West with its 4 and Cwmbwrla with its 8.

So clearly VM do have some whacky ideas or some really messed up prejudices. They release an upgrade and in your world prioritise Wales in order to leave 2 hubsites which, between them, cover more customers than the whole of VM's network in Wales until last, then release a further uplift a little later on and intentionally decide to leave specific parts of Wales behind out of spite or nationalism.

Or there were legitimate engineering reasons for doing so.

Sorry, couldn't find a tin foil hat with any reference to anything Welsh on it, I hope this foil balloon will do.

http://la-occasion.com/media/catalog..._flag_foil.jpg

Gobble 03-04-2014 15:15

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Has anyone who's area has 'officially' been upgraded got any extra channels or dare I say it... 64 QAM?

Sephiroth 03-04-2014 15:24

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
@ Gobble (great handle!)

Your question may be difficult to answer. My area was upgraded last Autumn for 120 meg with 8 down (I already had 2 up from the 100 meg service).

Earlier this year, the circuit glitch and lo, we had four upstreams on the line card (was three) from which I was provisioned with two, still at 16QAM.

As far as I know, the work being done now is of a resegmentation nature as well as the noise clean up ready for 64QAM. I don't expect an improvement on 10:1 and I'm not exactly sure how VM will use the extra upstream capacity bearing in mind that my area has no upstream congestion, only downstream congestion at peak times.

Gobble 03-04-2014 15:43

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
I have the 2 up (16QAM), but still on 6 down and during peak hours my speed will drop somewhat, but I think that will be solved once I get the extra 2 channels in (hopefully), but my official upgrade is now sometime after July, so will just have to wait and see.

If someone was on 6 and the area has been officially done according to the site, would be nice to know if yours changed.

Sephiroth 03-04-2014 16:08

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gobble (Post 35685772)
I have the 2 up (16QAM), but still on 6 down and during peak hours my speed will drop somewhat, but I think that will be solved once I get the extra 2 channels in (hopefully), but my official upgrade is now sometime after July, so will just have to wait and see.
If someone was on 6 and the area has been officially done according to the site, would be nice to know if yours changed.

Maybe, maybe not. When we went from 6 to 8 DS channels, I was on 100 meg and was getting that most of the time - perhaps 80 meg evenings. When we were suddenly bumped to 120/12 from 100/10, the 80 meg evenings remained.

It's degraded to 8 meg evenings now either because they've added more customers (it doesn't take much to tip the thing into the red) or they've temporarily swung customers onto our line card while they upgrade UBRs or whatever.

They tell us nothng. So you can expect anything to happen!

Kabaal 03-04-2014 17:15

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35685783)
Maybe, maybe not. When we went from 6 to 8 DS channels, I was on 100 meg and was getting that most of the time - perhaps 80 meg evenings. When we were suddenly bumped to 120/12 from 100/10, the 80 meg evenings remained.

It's degraded to 8 meg evenings now either because they've added more customers (it doesn't take much to tip the thing into the red) or they've temporarily swung customers onto our line card while they upgrade UBRs or whatever.

They tell us nothng. So you can expect anything to happen!

We went from 6 to 8 downstream a month or so before the 152mb boost but we've always had the max speed here no matter the packages over the years be they 50mb, 100, 120 and now 152. I think our area is more BT and Sky than Virgin tbh as i don't know anyone other than myself and my old man who use Virgin.

I honestly don't think they are anything to do with over-utilization or the current boosts but rather just a general thing they are doing everywhere for the future.

Still on 16QAM and only 2 for upstream.

Kushan 03-04-2014 17:16

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
We've been on 8 DS channels for months and months now, long before the 152meg came along. Still on 2x QAM16 upstreams, too.

Ignitionnet 03-04-2014 17:50

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 


Quote:

Originally Posted by Gobble (Post 35685755)
[Has anyone who's area has 'officially' been upgraded got any extra channels or dare I say it... 64 QAM?

A few people have 64QAM up now. Don't think there've been any 3rd/4th upstreams in the bonded groups yet though.

Ignitionnet 03-04-2014 18:36

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
On topic more channels aren't essential for this round of upgrades, as I mentioned usage doesn't increase in exact proportion with speeds so areas which have plenty of free capacity already don't need any upgrade right now.

Stephen 04-04-2014 21:12

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
OK back to the topic please. We have a thread for talk about Scottish independance.

OT posts removed and tidied up.

Synthetic 04-04-2014 22:52

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
On 2x 64QAM here in Newcastle

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borrissey 06-04-2014 12:37

Is the speed upgrade automatic or do you have to go on my virgin media to activate it?

Grimpy 06-04-2014 13:18

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Automatic.

roughbeast 06-04-2014 13:58

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35686388)
Is the speed upgrade automatic or do you have to go on my virgin media to activate it?

Unless you want it early. In which case call them. ;)

BenMcr 06-04-2014 15:20

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
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Originally Posted by Grimpy (Post 35686394)
Automatic.

No, it's not. You'll get told it's available, but you won't get it until you go onto My Virgin Media.

General Maximus 06-04-2014 19:26

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
that's a good way of not having to give it to everyone. I bet a large majority of customers will either not bother with the extra speed because they think they don't need it or they won't go for it because they think there will be some caveats and stuff you have to sign up for which will put people off

passingbat 06-04-2014 19:41

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35686494)
or they won't go for it because they think there will be some caveats and stuff you have to sign up for which will put people off


Agreed. People will be concerned that they may lose loyalty discounts, or be tied into another year of being under contract. I doubt it will be made clear whether or not that is the case.

Given that anyone on 30meg or more should have a Superhub, why for those people, isn't it an automatic update?

Seems like a shady way of doing things to me.

General Maximus 06-04-2014 19:57

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35686502)
Given that anyone on 30meg or more should have a Superhub, why for those people, isn't it an automatic update.

I thought it was tbh, I thought the only peeps who had to go through myvirginmedia one the customers who had been identified as needing a docsis3 compatible modem (i.e. a shub) because they are on 20mbits or below. Ben may want to correct me.

BenMcr 07-04-2014 11:08

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
I will ;)

It's opt in for everyone, mainly to be a simple a message and process as possible i.e all customers get the same email communications and then follow the same process.

It also allows for a managed upgrade process for capacity reasons - you aren't suddenly moving a large chunk of an area up a speed in one go.

passingbat 07-04-2014 12:33

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35686648)
I will ;)

It's opt in for everyone, mainly to be a simple a message and process as possible i.e all customers get the same email communications and then follow the same process.

It also allows for a managed upgrade process for capacity reasons - you aren't suddenly moving a large chunk of an area up a speed in one go.

So if people agree to the speed upgrade via the opt-in procedure, can you guarantee that:

1) They're not tied into a further 12 month contract.

2) Any loyalty discounts they currently receive will not be removed. i.e. the price they are currently paying remains unchanged.

Thanks

BenMcr 07-04-2014 12:37

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
If you do it when you get the email and then follow the online process, it's not a new contract, and the bundle will remain the same.

If you call in, then that may not be the case as you may end up on a new Collection price which might be a new contract.

passingbat 07-04-2014 12:47

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35686666)
If you do it when you get the email and then follow the online process, it's not a new contract, and the bundle will remain the same.
.

Thanks Ben.

Sorry to be picky, but the bundle will remain the same, but the price could change if loyalty discounts are removed.

People want to know if the price will remain the same.

It's a sad thing that we don't trust VM on these things and need it in black and white.

BenMcr 07-04-2014 12:51

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As a rule your price will not change by just doing the speed upgrade.

There may be some exceptions to this if an account isn't set up correctly e.g. getting a credit for which you aren't eligible for, but these errors would be picked up anyway.

passingbat 07-04-2014 14:00

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35686670)
As a rule your price will not change by just doing the speed upgrade.

There may be some exceptions to this if an account isn't set up correctly e.g. getting a credit for which you aren't eligible for, but these errors would be picked up anyway.

Thanks Ben.

borrissey 07-04-2014 14:19

Re: Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014
 
I went on to my virgin media and activated it..

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