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It is slightly on the expensive side, but I suppose the argument is if you're only going to watch one or two days worth a month then it's cheaper than a subscription, if you're going to watch more than that then subscribe to the full package. I work shifts and, whilst I'm currently subscribed under the half price offer, I simply can't get the full value out of a full price monthly package. A case in point is that since I've subscribed on the offer, probably about 3 weeks ago, I've managed just two football matches and even missed the Grand Prix at the weekend. I'm very interested in using this new service, and by planning ahead I'll probably subscribe fully for the odd month when it'll be worth my while and use Now TV to make up the difference. Hopefully the streaming quality will be up to it...

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Chads post makes perfect sense , they'll analyse how the service is going month by month if takeup is low they'll adjust prices accordingly. When Premier plus was around a few years ago it cost £50 for a season ticket of 50 games so a £1 a game or you could purchase individual matches and the price was around £8.00 guess what many paid it then and that was for a single match.
Yet again Dave your wrong but hey don't let facts get in the way of another Sky rant :D Sky+ cost Sky users £10 a month its now free to Sky subscribers , HD cost Entertainment+ customers £10.25 which from April will be lowered to £5.00 they are a business and as such will try and charge what they think they can , but don't be fooled they'll adjust if the market dictates.

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Sorry MM but at a astronomical £9.99 a day there is no way it will be a success and thus trying to compare it to Premier Plus does not really stand up as that was many many years ago and a lot has changed in the market place since and if they think that many will pay what they are going to charge each day then they are bigger fools then l thought they were.

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exactly Den they could half price and still make a very big profit on it sky greed knows no bounds it funny how they always try to defend the undefendable and yes MM sky is business and allowed to make a profit but that's taking the mick big time

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You have to remember Dave that the master and his servant are well trained in the dark arts and as such will always tow the party line and defend the indefensible.:D

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At £5.00 a day I would cancel my Sky Sports sub and pay the days my football team are on it would allow me to watch them 4 times a month and still be cheaper than a Sky Sports sub people would cancel in there droves.

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why when it more expensive than monthly sub MM surely that don't make sence and sky would still make big profit if was that price if it just football you watch then it would make sence yes but sure you watch more than just footy on sky sports as that's one of reason you moved to sky wasn't it to get them all in HD

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Even if you couldn't watch in hd?

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Because many sub to Sky Sports purely for one sport hence why cricket fans feel so aggreived with the cost paid for premiership football , sure there's those die hards who watch Sky Sports everyday but there's also many who tend to primarily watch when there team is on something I've been guilty of many months which at £5.00 your suggested price would result in many electing for the pay per view option resulting in lost subscribers and why in my opinion the day pass has been priced at £9.99 , I agree what your saying it wouldn't be a viable option for me at that price as it would end up costing me more but I can certainly see why Sky priced it this way.
Sky confirmed at launch that Now TV will go HD at some point.

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Cheers mm, definitely the way forward for me then.

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With 5.1 audio?

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Haven't a clue on that , I read an interview at launch which said they would like to distribute HD adaptive bitrate streaming but they weren't there yet unlike Netflix who is a lot maturer a player in the streaming market , you would think somewhere down the product roadmap that HD and 5.1 audio will figure but as to when I don't know. I have to say Netflix is the real deal when it comes to streaming technology.

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Well it wasn't a deal with BT in the end:

http://www.hl.co.uk/shares/aim-and-s...nnel-boxnation

"Media Corp., an AIM-listed online gaming company, said Wednesday it has entered an exclusive agreement with Boxing Channel Media to supply betting services to its TV channel, BoxNation.

The three-year deal marks the firm's first white label contract win - enabling it to capitalise on its Intabet software platform on a revenue sharing basis.

Media Corp. will provide the platform for an internet sportsbook and casino to be integrated with the BoxNation website, offering a full range of sports betting and casino games, with an emphasis on boxing.

Through the servie users will be able to place bets through the proposed BoxNation betting platform.

Phil Jackson, Chairman of Media Corp, said: "This represents the first application of our white label service. We are delighted to win the contract to deliver betting and, over time, casino products to the only dedicated boxing channel in the world.

"BoxNation has a large and growing subscriber base and we believe boxing and betting go hand in hand and we are looking forward to developing a profitable and long term relationship with BoxNation as they grow into a leading sports channel around the world."

The deal is subject to an initial feasibility assessment period of three months.

The share price leapt 25% to 0.15p by 08:55."

Still time for Virgin to jump in and get the channel on XL. I'd come back to Virgin for that.

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England match in Montenegro faces television blackout threat

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...ision-blackout

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ITV have solved the problem:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...ghts-deal.html

Game on as they say

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That good news - We know who will win the game and the group anyway.

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I presume not England :)

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I do mean them.

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ITV extends BTCC agreement until end of 2016

http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/i...il_end_of_2016

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:nono::nono:

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British Eurosport replaces Sky as UK speedway broadcaster

http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/b...y_broadcaster/

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Our friends down south can enjoy their game, I've got a bumper footie weekend coming up.

Scotland Vs. Wales on Friday night followed by Rangers Vs. Stirling Albion on Saturday midday. I wonder if I can stay up and drink from the starting whistle on Friday through to the final whistle on Saturday?

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I wish I could be so confident about this! Just last week a Welsh friend of mine told me England would win the six nations! If you offered me a draw in Montenegro now I'd bite your arm off!

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BT Sport sign Gareth Bale

Gareth Bale has been signed up as a guest pundit for the new BT Sport channels. The Tottenham and Wales winger will also help market BT's campaigns for its 38 live Premier League games from next season. Bale, 23, is enjoying his most prolific season to date, plundering 25 goals in all competitions and attracting interest from across Europe.

Simon Green, head of BT Sport, said: 'We are delighted that we've managed to do what dozens of top football managers would like to do - sign Gareth Bale.' The man himself, who previously helped promote BT when their 'Vision' started broadcasting Sky Sports 1 and 2, added: 'I am delighted to continue my relationship with BT by becoming a BT Ambassador.

'I feel honoured to join an exciting band of inspirational sporting figures, which has included Olympic heroes like the Brownlee brothers and Paralympic gold medallist Jonnie Peacock. 'A great deal has changed in my football career since my first partnership with BT, and I am happy to extend that relationship for the next three years. I am excited about the launch of BT Sport and I am happy to play my part in making it a big hit.'

As well as the rights to show 38 live games a season from the Premier League, BT Sport has also secured the rights to live matches from Serie A in Italy, Ligue 1 in France, Brasileiro in Brazil and Major League Soccer in the USA. The company have also acquired ESPN’s TV channels business in the UK and Ireland, and will screen FA Cup, Scottish Premier League, Europa League and the German Bundesliga.

Tennis and rugby union will also have a major presence.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...#ixzz2Of6MAkKq

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l am sure he will sell one or two subscriptions.

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Trekking all the way from Barcelona just to make the odd remark on Wigan vs. West Ham? He must be getting a few bob.

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I'll say two if those are the choices!

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I don't see that happening, unless he is still at Spurs ;)

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Interview with frank Warren yesterday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbFFY6ag6wc

At 27 mins into the interview he makes some interesting comments about Boxnation and BT.

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Hmmmmm...

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Rebecca Lowe signs for NBC

NBC announced the first piece of their Premier League coverage, showing immediate signs that the network isn't hear to "Americanize" the game.

Former ESPN UK host Rebecca Lowe has signed a multi-year deal to host EPL coverage for NBC, which will be across multiple networks starting in August, according to a network press release. Richard Deitsch of Sports Illustrated broke the story yesterday. Lowe will be relocating from England to host from NBC's International Broadcast Center in Stamford, Connecticut. Lowe has worked for Setanta Sports and BBC, in addition to ESPN UK over in England.

"I'm about to begin the most exciting chapter of my life," said Lowe. "Joining NBC to present the Premier League is an enormous privilege. Not only do I get to combine my love of football and of TV presenting, but I'm getting the chance to do that in a new country, which poses a real challenge. I'm impatient for the summer to come, and inspired by NBC's outlook on putting live football on the telly...as we say in England."

"Rebecca has the perfect combination of soccer knowledge and perspective to lead our viewers through all the drama and excitement of Premier League," added Pierre Moossa, Coordinating Producer, NBC Sports Group Soccer. "When we started the talent search, Rebecca was our top choice as host, and we are extremely fortunate to have her join our team"

NBC owns the rights to every English Premier League match beginning with the 2013-14 season. Games will be aired live via NBC, NBC Sports Network, NBCSports.com, Telemundo and mun2, in addition to extra streaming platforms.

http://www.sbnation.com/2013/3/26/41...er-league-host

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So when I hear people talk about accessing netflix through unblockus, is that something that would work with nbc's streamed coverage? If so why aren't people doing this as obviously as they are with other streaming services? Or are they?

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There is a thread on DS about watching Premier League on AD Sports or Fox Soccer so yeah people use them for that. Some things are still blocked but I'd imagine any of the clever companies just allow it, knowing they'll get business from abroad even though they shouldn't.

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Very interesting indeed. I would love for BT to do a deal to get BoxNation as part of some kind of bundle or Buy them out directly like they have done with ESPN.

Do they really have £1.5bn a year to invest into this sports channel?!:shocked:

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What would this mean? Watching it through an app or online via a computer or something?

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Both, yeah.

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That is pretty cool.
It would be great if they can offer it a lot cheaper than Nowtv.
BT will be able to promote their wireless network and thus their BB if they can create an app.

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I am glad to hear about 'our' Gareth Joining BT Sports, He wont leave Spurs.

Levy will open his check book and not only that Gareth is to much of a 'home' boy to leave Tottenham:D

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We'll see when the big boys come calling.

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I would say in the case of Bale. the player is bigger than the club.

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Owen Hargreaves to join BT Sport?

Owen Hargreaves could be back in English football next season.

The Daily Mail says BT Sport are in talks with as many as 15 former players or those who might arrive straight from the dressing room.

High on the list is former Manchester United midfielder Hargreaves, whose career has been ravaged by injury since playing for Manchester United in the Champions League final in 2008. He was released by Manchester City at the end of last season.

http://www.tribalfootball.com/articl...1#.UVxBtldHSu0

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Oh dear not yet another ex player again who they then call experts.:rofl:

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Official: BT Sports buys UFC rights for 3 years.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...1&postcount=51

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Thanks MB for that update.

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Found this piece on the UFC and a UK TV deal on an American website. Looks like UFC will be getting a big push from BT.

UFC exec says English TV deal nearly done, teases launch of weekly magazine show
by John Morgan on Apr 04, 2013 at 12:05 pm ET

STOCKHOLM – For years, UFC President Dana White has pinned the potential for U.K. expansion on key factor: the "right" TV deal. Now, it seems, the company may finally be on the verge of signing such a contract.

"What we've worked hard on is finding a TV partner that just doesn't pay money for our rights but actually gives us the opportunity to produce and develop a magazine program that tells the story and creates awareness about the sport," UFC Executive Vice President and Managing Director of Europe, Middle East and Africa Garry Cook told MMAjunkie.com. "So we've worked with a TV partner. We're very close to having a deal."

The UFC currently airs its U.K. programming on ESPN in a contract the promotion previously announced runs through August.

The channel has been home to the UFC since 2009, but the U.K.'s version of the all-sports option works considerably different than in the U.S. and is currently available only a premium subscription channel to British customers. The model hasn't proved financially viable for ESPN, which recently sold its assets to upstart company BT Sport.

Cook declined to disclose what channel was leading the way in negotiations but said he feels confident the new home will provide an ample platform with which to build the UFC brand in the U.K.

"There's one major issue, and that's always consumption and access," Cook said. "It's like any business: The harder it is to get it, the more niche it becomes. Right now 96 percent of our broadcasts are after 2 o'clock in the morning in the U.K. When you are confronted with that challenge and building a business for the future, my job is to change that dynamic. The U.S. is not going to have 9 o'clock in the morning fights live on television, so we have to consider that, as well.

"We'll be able to explain that in more detail at a later date, but one of the key elements is every week, on a Thursday night, for the next three years, we'll have a magazine show in-studio, in the U.K., telling the story of the UFC. So we feel that that's a major leap for us as a business. That will increase the awareness."

So it appears the UFC may be close to signing a deal that has long proven difficult to close, much to the dismay of UFC boss White, who has famously expressed his shock at the lack of progress in recent years.

"The television deal we want hasn't been as easy to acquire as we thought it would be," White said one year ago. "We thought we could get that thing done. If you'd have asked many years ago and said, 'Do you think you'll be on FOX before you secure a big deal over here in the U.K.?' I would have said, 'There's no way in hell. We'll probably get the U.K. deal done first.'

"But it hasn't happened. We're still invested in that whole market out there, and we will get it done. We're not going to give up on it."

Cook believes once the deal is in place, it will begin the launch of a new phase of European growth for the world's largest MMA promotion.

"We're also involved in engaging in areas where kids and where youth are touching and consuming sport," Cook said. "As we all know, they are gaming. So we're about to embark on a rather large commercial product with a major global brand, and that, we think, will be a game-changer. On top of that, we shouldn't detract from the elements of fitness. Everybody wants to aspire to be as fit as the fittest athlete. These are the fittest athletes. If we can develop a fitness business, a fitness product, through gymnasiums, through training, all of the elements – nutrition – if you round yourself outside of the core competency, which is fighters and fights, and build fans through TV networks and fitness through a training regime, you've got women engaged, you've got kids engaged.

"All of a sudden the future and the outlook for the sport is built more than just around the fights and the fighters."

UFC on FUEL TV 9 takes place Saturday at Stockholm's Ericsson Globe Arena. While no official announcements have been add, the organization is expected to return to Europe in 2013's fourth quarter.

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Looks like this could get interesting?

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/m...er-League.html

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One thing certain at the end of all this and that is the poor customer will end up paying more and these two companies will have to watch it because they might find that the goose that layed the golden egg might suddenly disappear quicker then you can say Jack Robinson.

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yes Den prices will continue to only go up and up :mad::mad::mad:

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given how poor this season has been too, can't think of many games that were actually good to watch.

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yes, got to agree. Been a disappointing season

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UFC on BT? UFC EMEA chief Garry Cook hints a new UK TV deal is "very close"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-...medium=twitter

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Sky refuses to air BT's ads for its Premier League coverage.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013...premier-league

A leopard never changes its spots and remember Sky have considerable history of bully boy tactics l am afraid.

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what a surprise eh Den NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT cue the usual sky fans trying to defend the indefencable

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Interesting article. We've got BT's thoughts on the matter but not SKY's. The article does end saying "More details soon..." Looks like they will try and get a statement from SKY. It's fighting talk from BT, which is great to see.

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Even the old diehards servants nurtured under thy master cannot defend that.:D

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Don't l remember Sky doing the same thing to Virgin a few years ago as well.

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On the surface it looks petty from SKY however we don't have their side of the story yet. I'll wait for that before drawing a conclusion.

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They will have to air them at some point. They are no doubt trying to delay as long as posiible to disrupt Bts entry to the market.

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Sorry Chad but previous history tells me otherwise.:nono:

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BT and Sky 'at loggerheads over Premier League wholesale rights'

Sky wants to acquire BT's live Premier League rights on a wholesale basis.

BT is facing a tough decision over whether or not to sell Sky the wholesale rights to its live Premier League football matches.

The telecoms giant has won the rights to screen 38 games per season from 2013/14 to 2015/16 in a deal worth £738 million and will show the fixtures on its soon-to-launch BT Sport service. Among BT's package of live matches - which represents a quarter of the clashes to be televised each season - is the opening game of the new Premier League campaign.

BT has already revealed that it will sell the sporting content directly to Sky customers, but the satellite broadcaster is understood to be keen on acquiring the wholesale rights so it can offer the whole season to Sky subscribers at its own prices.

Speaking to the Mail on Sunday, a source close to talks between the rival broadcasters explained: "The main issue has been over wholesale rights.

"BT does not want to give them to Sky since it wants to use BT Sport to lock in two million of its customers who watch Sky on BT broadband."

http://www.cable.co.uk/news/bt-and-s...hts-801567631/

Murdoch's Sky TV accused of abusing power by refusing to air competitor's ads

British broadcaster Sky — a company controlled by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. — has reportedly refused to air ads for a competing service on its channels. The accusation comes from telecoms giant BT, which is making a big play for the UK sports TV market. Sky has enjoyed something of a monopoly on content and distribution in the UK over past decade. It has double the number of subscribers of its nearest competitor, and around 40 percent of UK households have at last one Sky box.

To combat Sky's dominance, BT is ramping up its sports coverage — traditionally Sky's strongest market. It paid £738 million (roughly $1.13 billion) to broadcast 38 Premiership soccer matches live, and also snapped up the rights to rugby, cricket, and women's tennis. BT has filed an official complaint with the UK's Office of Communications (OFCOM), saying it's the victim of "undue discrimination." It's not clear what grounds Sky gave for refusing to air the ads. Speaking with The Guardian, BT Retail managing director John Petter said "we are happy to take Sky's advertising but they seem afraid of taking ours," comparing Sky's decision to "a rottweiler running away from a newborn puppy."

http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/8/419...advertisements

Sky are a rottweiler and we are a newborn puppy! BT complain after rivals refuse to air their ads for new sport channel

With all eyes on the Manchester derby a brand new Premier League rivalry is kicking off behind the scenes between rival networks Sky Sports and BT.

BT bosses have accused BSkyB of being a like a ‘rottweiler running away from a newborn puppy’ after the long-standing network refused to air BT’s new advertising campaign.

The adverts are for BT’s new multi-million-pound network to promote its coverage of the Premier League and other sports beginning in the summer.

BT have now lodged an official complaint with regulators Ofcom claiming that BSkyB have shown ‘undue discrimination’ against them by refusing to run the campaign of adverts.

John Petter, managing director of consumer for BT Retail, told the Guardian: ‘We are happy to take Sky’s advertising but they seem afraid of taking ours. It’s like a rottweiler running away from a newborn puppy.’
BT spent £738million to take 38 top-flight games next season after the channel launches in July and will also air Premiership Rugby and European Rugby.

But a key part of their strategy of growth is to raise awareness of their new channel by advertising on Sky Sports channels.

The broadcast code states that 'a radio broadcaster must not unduly discriminate between advertisers that seek to have any commercial communication included in its licensed service.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...#ixzz2Psd8Wytf

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Here is SKY's reply:

BSkyB says it has invested billions of pounds in its own sports channels and will not run a rival ad campaign on the Sky Sports portfolio. However, it says BT is free to run its ads on the 100-plus other channels that Sky sells TV ad spots across.
"There many other avenues for BT to advertise its sports channels without seeking to take advantage of the investments that we've made to build Sky Sports," said a spokeswoman. "It's entirely reasonable for us to choose not to carry advertising for a directly competing service."
ESPN, which currently holds the rights to some Premier League matches, does run football ads across Sky Sports, but does have a reciprocal carriage deal to air Sky channels. BT does not currently have a deal to air its sports content to Sky customers.

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So it's not refusing to air the ads, but saying they can do it on any other channel apart from the Sky Sports channels. Seems fair enough to me.

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I see Sky Sports running ads for ESPN sometimes.

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Yup as ESPN also do for Sky.

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So should itv stop advetising sky sports in their chamions league games?

Also do sky carry netflix ads on their movie channels?

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No idea what you mean about ITV advertising Sky, but surely that's up to them.

And I don't know, do they? Do Netflix carry Sky ads?

You wouldn't get Asda advertising in Tesco's would you?

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Not to me. If a channel takes advertising, and the rules say that they aren't allowed to be selective in that advertising, then they should be forced to take BT advertising.

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Perfectly reasonable reply imo.

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Surely the best advertising is targeted, in this case to sports fans, who will mainly watch (at this time) Sky Sports.

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So? That was their choice. It doesn't give them the right to flout advertising rules.

It was a mistake to let Sky build such a massive dominance in the sports market. But the broadcasting rules allowed them to do that. Well, those same rules should force them to accept all advertising on those channels.

Sky shouldn't be allowed to win this, but it worries me that they probably will.

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Its an example of them abusing the monolopy that they have. They simply crush everything that attempts to get in their way by any means they possible can.

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And if they do win this then BT Sports will follow ESPN and Setanta in exiting the sports rights market.

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So what is the exact rules, anyone got a link?

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http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/bro...iscrimination/

As I read it, it's entirely up to Ofcom to decide what is "undue discrimination"

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Ok so until then, people can't really complain they are breaking any 'rules' then.

No doubt Ofcom will be their usual efficient selves ;)

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People will complain...sky bashing is a popular sport for some

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Am certainly no fan of Sky or Murdoch, but them saying they don't want to run BT Sports adverts on their own Sky Sports channels seems perfectly reasonable to me. They have said they can run them on their other 100+ channels.

As I said, why would you allow your competitors to advertise on your own competing market channels?

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:nono::nono::nono:Not for me as l am the voice of debate and independence and will criticise Sky And Virgin in equal measure if l think they deserve it.

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Here is the real issue though, they did carry adverts for ESPN but because BT want to sell direct to customers, Sky are refusing to allow their adverts. That is simply them abusing their position and not allowing fair competition


ESPN, which currently holds the rights to some Premier League matches, does run football ads across Sky Sports, but does have a reciprocal carriage deal to air Sky channels. BT does not currently have a deal to air its sports content to Sky customers.

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Just criticise Sky more...fairness is subjective

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Yes they had a reciprocal deal that they agreed with ESPN. But that's not to say they have to automatically carry BT's adverts on their channels.

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Sitting on the fence has never been my style.:D

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I think SKY will get away with this.

All SKY need to do is prove it would be to the detriment of their own product / business to allow a rivals adverts on their channels, especially channels that the rival is actually looking to poach subscribers from with their own new service. It's the key reason BT will want their adverts run on SKY Sports.

Did SKY allow adverts for Setanta Sports on the SKY Sports channels?

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No they didn't, but that was before the rule change.

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How long does it take OFCOM to sort these things out? Will it be before BT Sports launches in the Summer? If not, SKY have won already regardless.

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That depends on what you mean by winning. Bt have done a pretty good job of getting free advertising and a negative story about their rival into the national press - I'm sure they're more than happy with their days work.

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Very true, round 1 to BT for sure.

This is heating up nicely.

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Yes, but as Den says often "not over until the fat lady sings"

who this fat lady is..and what fascination Den has for her I shudder to think..best left unasked :)

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Well said Sir, my thoughts exactly!

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Why am I getting visions of RM playing the part of Jabba the Hutt...:sick:

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I know Virgin don't have channels anymore however could you see Virgin running adverts from BT, on the TiVo interface, advertising their broadband or from SKY advertising their TV deals?

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BT still have to get past the problem that their channel will be an extra subscription every month whereas ESPN was not.

It really is too much for me to pay a second sports channel subscription and dropping Sky Sports for BT is a non-starter for me.

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Given that nothing that is shown on BT sports is available on Sky sports, why are Sky complaining? They are not competing services, they are complimentary services with regard to the content shown.

Sky are behaving like big kids, you know the one that want's to take his ball home when things don't suit him. (no pun intended).

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+1

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Unfortunately, they open themselves up for criticism. Sky have done a tremendous amount for television in this country and I for one am grateful for that. But they have turned out to be the big bullies on the block, and that's what people resent.

They don't seem to understand that the reputation they have made for themselves is preventing some people from even contemplating signing up for Sky services.

One day they might work out that being nice makes commercial sense. :rolleyes:

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Charles Sale in the Mail today claimed that Sky are delaying their deal with Virgin because they are waiting to make sure that Virgin don't get BT Sport packaged like ESPN.

Is this true? He claimed that the deal needs renewing for next season? (2013/14)

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Story link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...#ixzz2Py6NGymB

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I think Sky have a point. They have not refused to run the ad's but they have said they cant run them on Sky Sports which i think is fair. It like Asda asking Tesco to run ads for its Smart Price items in a Tesco shop. BT are clutching at straws me thinks

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Oh says he defender of the faith.

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This.

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do you know what the situation is with the current sky sports carriage deal MB? Does it run out this summer?

Don't want to renew with Virgin at risk of paying over the odds.

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I think Sky Sports costs more on VM anyway

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As far as I know Sky Movies and Sky Sports SD Channels is an 'must carry' on Virgin Media.

But we may lose Sky Movies HD, Sky Sports 1 HD and Sky Sports 2 HD if the new deal is not sign.

Sky Sports News is part of the Sky Basic deal (Sky1, Sky Living and Sky Arts.)