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Pog66 01-11-2010 15:10
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35115936)
The biggest and major problem with officials is that there is no consistancy, the linesman flagged for an offence, which was the handball.
Actually I don't think the linesman flagged until after the goal had been scored & the Spurs players started protesting.

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Nani should have been booked for delibarate handball, and the goal should have been disallowed.
Agree Nani should have been booked but ref was playing the advantage - therefore Gomes must take some of the blame

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you only have the read the article from Graham Poll.
Link..?.;)

<EDIT> Have found Graham Poll's comments...interesting read (despite it being the Daily Mail)

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What should happen is that the FA should look at the footage of the game, and overrule the ref, and this has happen before.
Okay 1-0 to United. Also interested as to when a goal has been restrospectively disallowed. Perhaps a link or two....

Media Boy UK 01-11-2010 15:55
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Dundee Football Club have been deducted 25 points by the Scottish Football League for going into administration.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ee/9146206.stm

TheDaddy 01-11-2010 16:03
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pog66 (Post 35116442)
Okay 1-0 to United. Also interested as to when a goal has been restrospectively disallowed. Perhaps a link or two....
The ref can disallow anything right up until he restarts the game plus if your going to play advantage you have a few seconds to see if there actually is one

Rather than stopping play, the referee may allow play to continue if doing so will benefit the team against which an offence has been committed. This is known as "playing an advantage". The referee may "call back" play and penalise the original offence if the anticipated advantage does not ensue within a short period

Arthurgray50@blu 01-11-2010 16:15
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Firstly the United player should have been booked for the deliberate handball, and IF there was a foul in the box, why didn't the referee give a penalty.

The referee was disgrace, the linesman flagged for the handleball, but the ref, overuled and allowed play to go on WITHOUT telling the keeper.

It has been rumoured that the ref will be taken off the prem list as a punishment for the way he controlled the game.

A ref can play the advantage, BUT he must clearly indicate this to both sides.

punky 01-11-2010 16:38
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Firstly, advantage wasn't played because the ref did n't signal for it. The gesture for playing is two parallel arms. He never gave it. In that instance Nani handballed it and is not a legitmate goal however you look at it.

Secondly when there was confusion as Gomes obviously was when he looked at the ref, the ref should have clarified what his descision was be it playing advantage or free kick. He just shrugged his.shoulders.

Finally, what benefit did we gain from this mythical advantage? We conceeded. If we were playing advantage then the ref should have brought play back.

It was a complete shambles at reffing. Even if we got the goal diaallowed it doesn't take into account we were plsying for a draw in an open game when this shambles happened it killed the match. Much like the phantom penalty descision did last year.

gazzae 01-11-2010 16:44
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35116471)
The referee was disgrace, the linesman flagged for the handleball, but the ref, overuled and allowed play to go on WITHOUT telling the keeper.

No he didn't. The linesman did not flag until the ball was in the back of the net.

It's the old adage play to the whistle. Spurs only have themselves to blame.

The referee could have made himself clearer and yes it was an error not to penalise the handball, but the fact remains he did not signal or blow his whistle for a free kick. Gomez assumed it was a free kick and we all know where assumption gets you.

If Spurs passed the ball as well as they pass the buck maybe the result would have been different.

Damien 01-11-2010 16:57
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Yeah, United were perfectly within their rights. It is questionable sportsmanship when Nani knew that Gomes was placing it for the free kick and was looking towards the ref for guidance but you can't expect that in the modern game. It's also worth remembering Spurs were pretty dire and while, of course, they could get a goal against the run of play I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that this didn't have an effect on the final outcome.

Spurs were screwed but screwed within the rules of the game. In a fair world there would have been a free kick for the handball but, having missed out on that, Spurs should have coped better rather than letting Nani score. Weird case where no one is wrong or right. Spurs deeply unlucky and entitled to feel cheated whereas United are correct that the goal was right to be given.

gazzae 01-11-2010 17:40
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35116489)
Yeah, United were perfectly within their rights. It is questionable sportsmanship when Nani knew that Gomes was placing it for the free kick and was looking towards the ref for guidance but you can't expect that in the modern game. It's also worth remembering Spurs were pretty dire and while, of course, they could get a goal against the run of play I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that this didn't have an effect on the final outcome..
As questionable as a player hiding behind a keeper in the hope he doesn't notice him.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35116489)
Spurs were screwed but screwed within the rules of the game. In a fair world there would have been a free kick for the handball but, having missed out on that, Spurs should have coped better rather than letting Nani score. Weird case where no one is wrong or right. Spurs deeply unlucky and entitled to feel cheated whereas United are correct that the goal was right to be given
Replace unlucky with stupid and you're closer to the mark.

Pog66 01-11-2010 18:40
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35116489)
. It is questionable sportsmanship when Nani knew that Gomes was placing it for the free kick and was looking towards the ref for guidance but you can't expect that in the modern game..
Why - Nani have realised that the ref hadn't blown (and furthermore double checked with the ref) before scoring. Gomes must have also suddenly realised as he attempted to save Nani's shot. All in all a smart bit of play from Nani in my opinion.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35116467)
The ref can disallow anything right up until he restarts the game plus if your going to play advantage you have a few seconds to see if there actually is one

Rather than stopping play, the referee may allow play to continue if doing so will benefit the team against which an offence has been committed. This is known as "playing an advantage". The referee may "call back" play and penalise the original offence if the anticipated advantage does not ensue within a short period
I understand that - I inferred that Arthur was suggesting that goals had been disallowed after a game had finished!!. That's what I was after links for.

Thanks anyway!!

TheDaddy 01-11-2010 18:54
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pog66 (Post 35116553)
I understand that - I inferred that Arthur was suggesting that goals had been disallowed after a game had finished!!. That's what I was after links for.

Thanks anyway!!
So you were, should have looked at who you were responding to before I replied :doh:

Damien 01-11-2010 23:38
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...a-fa-tottenham

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Harry Redknapp today threatened the Football Association with a post-match media blackout if they charge him for his outspoken attack on the referee Mark Clattenburg.
Wonder if 'Arry will include his column in The Sun with that? I don't think he has the ability not to tal to the press to be honest.

punky 02-11-2010 00:19
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The Sun is a personal thing and not tied to his job as manager of Spurs.

Let's face it, the media love Harry and Harry loves the media. No way would he pull a Fergie. He's just trying to make a point. A valid one IMO. If he can't tell the truth then what's the point of an interview?

BTW when he stormed off after that guy called him a wheeler-dealer he was interview by him a week later (transfer deadline day). Suffice to say the Sky man was very contrite.

TheDaddy 02-11-2010 18:28
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The Football Association will take no formal action against the Tottenham boss for his criticism of referee Mark Clattenburg after Spurs' 2-0 defeat.

Love the photo they used of Harry in the article

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ur/9151607.stm

Arthurgray50@blu 02-11-2010 18:41
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Even though Harry only got a warning over the comments, which were correct, you notice that the FA or PL haven't said anything about the goal, being ruled out.

I wonder what game Disgraceful Clattenburg will ref next, Prem or Champ.

Shadow Demon UK 02-11-2010 19:32
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35116909)
The Football Association will take no formal action against the Tottenham boss for his criticism of referee Mark Clattenburg after Spurs' 2-0 defeat.

Love the photo they used of Harry in the article

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ur/9151607.stm

If Ferguson had got away with saying something similar there would be an uproar. How hes got away with this is a joke.

Damien 02-11-2010 20:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35116939)
If Ferguson had got away with saying something similar there would be an uproar. How hes got away with this is a joke.
Oh please. This is the guy who refuses to talk to the BBC, often cancels press conferences and bans certain journalists from Old Trafford if he disagrees with something they have written. All without much of a fuss being kicked up. If Benetez had done something similar they would have been uproar.

Fergie is one of the cabal of managers well protected by the press. Him, 'Arry, Hughes, Allardyce and O'Neill.

Although at least Harry (and Sir Alex obviously) is a genuinely good manager with proven success (top 4 finish is something) and a team that plays decent football.

Uncle Peter 02-11-2010 22:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35116951)
Oh please. This is the guy who refuses to talk to the BBC, often cancels press conferences and bans certain journalists from Old Trafford if he disagrees with something they have written. All without much of a fuss being kicked up. If Benetez had done something similar they would have been uproar.

Fergie is one of the cabal of managers well protected by the press. Him, 'Arry, Hughes, Allardyce and O'Neill.

Although at least Harry (and Sir Alex obviously) is a genuinely good manager with proven success (top 4 finish is something) and a team that plays decent football.
I think you can safely add Roy Hodgson to the LMA/News International funny handshake club too. I wonder if they also wear special pointy hoods when they're dancing around the bonfire with effigies of those nasty foreign managers ;)

yesman 02-11-2010 22:35
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I have to say "Well done to Spurs" :)

Hom3r 02-11-2010 22:37
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Inter who?

:D

Damien 02-11-2010 22:45
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Bale was immense. Heaven knows how Spurs will keep him...

gazzae 02-11-2010 22:57
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Bale was on form, Great game.
I do wish sky would catch themselves on though, asking a player who has played for Ajax, Madrid, Netherlands, if hes ever seen a player like Bale.

Damien 02-11-2010 23:06
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 35117040)
Bale was on form, Great game.
I do wish sky would catch themselves on though, asking a player who has played for Ajax, Madrid, Netherlands, if hes ever seen a player like Bale.
Radio 5 were asking if he is 'the best player in the world'. It's getting slightly over the top. He was quiet against Everton and United. One or two amazing performances does not put him above or even alongside Messi and Ronaldo, yet, who have been turning in performances match after match. Messi so much so that I think we take it for granted.

Still he would get into any team in the world right now with form like that.

gazfan 02-11-2010 23:16
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So pleased for Punky, he must be 'over the moon' :)

Niles Crane 02-11-2010 23:16
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 35117040)
Bale was on form, Great game.
I do wish sky would catch themselves on though, asking a player who has played for Ajax, Madrid, Netherlands, if hes ever seen a player like Bale.
For Gullit's own sanity i hope he gives up this gig soon. He's surrounded by morons every week, Hoddle and Souness excepted.

Damien 02-11-2010 23:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gazfan (Post 35117049)
So pleased for Punky, he must be 'over the moon' :)
He was at the game. I am pretty sure he would have enjoyed it. :D

Shame they won't be in the competition next year :p:

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Originally Posted by Niles Crane (Post 35117050)
For Gullit's own sanity i hope he gives up this gig soon. He's surrounded by morons every week, Hoddle and Souness excepted.
Ugh. Sky is getting even worse. Not sure if you saw the 'Super Sunday' panel but it consisted of Sam Allardyce and Peter Reid, football's equivalent of cave dwellers. Anyway, tackling came up and they decided to take another swipe at Wenger, claiming he wants all tackling out of the game, the passion out of the game and they don't understand that.

I seriously think there is a section of English managers (not Hodgson, Fergie or 'Arry) who have a real problem with Foreign Managers. Allardyce had a problem with Bentiez and Wenger.

God Allardyce is a moron. His team play rugby, he has a hissy fit if someone calls him out on it, wears that stupid headset which I presume is so he can listen to his own voice, thinks he is gods gift to management.

Niles Crane 02-11-2010 23:27
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Can people please stop with this "I wish Bale was English!" or "Surely he's eligible somehow!" ********? This tedious attempt at wit is infuriating.

Oh, and Richard Keys; Salgado used to play for Real Madrid. Barcelona are Real Madrid's arch rivals. We get it.

punky 02-11-2010 23:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gazfan (Post 35117049)
So pleased for Punky, he must be 'over the moon' :)
Oh I did, mate. Just an amazing night. Outplaying the champions of europe is the stuff dreams are made of.

Niles Crane 02-11-2010 23:39
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35117051)
He was at the game. I am pretty sure he would have enjoyed it. :D

Shame they won't be in the competition next year :p:

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Ugh. Sky is getting even worse. Not sure if you saw the 'Super Sunday' panel but it consisted of Sam Allardyce and Peter Reid, football's equivalent of cave dwellers. Anyway, tackling came up and they decided to take another swipe at Wenger, claiming he wants all tackling out of the game, the passion out of the game and they don't understand that.

I seriously think there is a section of English managers (not Hodgson, Fergie or 'Arry) who have a real problem with Foreign Managers. Allardyce had a problem with Bentiez and Wenger.

God Allardyce is a moron. His team play rugby, he has a hissy fit if someone calls him out on it, wears that stupid headset which I presume is so he can listen to his own voice, thinks he is gods gift to management.
Yeah, i saw that panel, fortunately i avoided studio chat and just switched channels when there wasn't any actual football being played.

I agree entirely on Alladyce, i can't stand him. It was this which first made me realise what sort of manager he was.

Did you hear what Jamie Redknapp said on Sky the other week?

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We're getting brainwashed by so many foreign managers, foreign coaches
Nothing like a bit of old fashioned casual xenophobia.

Damien 02-11-2010 23:50
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niles Crane (Post 35117066)
Yeah, i saw that panel, fortunately i avoided studio chat and just switched channels when there wasn't any actual football being played.

I agree entirely on Alladyce, i can't stand him. It was this which first made me realise what sort of manager he was.

Did you hear what Jamie Redknapp said on Sky the other week?



Nothing like a bit of old fashioned casual xenophobia.

Yeah. I saw that. Sky seem to be on a attack Wenger bent. Maybe because they have idiot guests. I think they need to look at the success of 'Foreign' football and wonder if perhaps they have a point.

Niles Crane 02-11-2010 23:59
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Now Sky are *******ising Bachman-Turner Overdrive too. Is nothing sacred?

gazzae 03-11-2010 10:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Niles Crane (Post 35117066)

Did you hear what Jamie Redknapp said on Sky the other week?



Nothing like a bit of old fashioned casual xenophobia.

That is some top top foruming.

*points groin at camera*

Pog66 03-11-2010 13:29
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35116913)
Even though Harry only got a warning over the comments, which were correct, you notice that the FA or PL haven't said anything about the goal, being ruled out.
Perhaps because by the letter of the law it was scored perfectly legally.....

Anyway - great result for Spurs last night - shame Gareth Bale isn't English..:erm:

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oops - sorry Niles

Damien 03-11-2010 13:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pog66 (Post 35117254)
Perhaps because by the letter of the law it was scored perfectly legally.....

Anyway - great result for Spurs last night - shame Gareth Bale isn't English..:erm:s
Shame Messi, Ronaldo , Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas etc aren't either! ;)

v0id 03-11-2010 19:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pog66 (Post 35117254)
- shame Gareth Bale isn't English..:erm:
He follows in the footsteps of the likes of Giggs and Rush. Destined to never see past the group stages of an international competition

danielf 03-11-2010 20:31
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35117399)
He follows in the footsteps of the likes of Giggs and Rush. Destined to never see past the group stages of an international competition
A bit like the English footballers then? ;)

Niles Crane 03-11-2010 21:32
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Interesting.....

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102 players have more assists in the Premier League than Gareth Bale (0) this season. Hype.

http://twitter.com/#!/OptaJoe

Damien 03-11-2010 21:34
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Awful. Awful Defending from Arsenal. Utter rubbish. Eboue needs to be pushed higher up the pitch and Sagna put on.

Russ 03-11-2010 21:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35117428)
a bit like the english footballers then? ;)
:D

Niles Crane 03-11-2010 22:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35117450)
Awful. Awful Defending from Arsenal. Utter rubbish. Eboue needs to be pushed higher up the pitch and Sagna put on.
I'm not surprised we lost. As soon as i saw the starting line up it made me think a draw would be a great result.

Damien 03-11-2010 22:57
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Glad Eduardo scored the winner at least and more class from him not to celebrate.

Poor performance from Arsenal. Too many first team players rested. Eastmond shouldn't have started such a game. Clichy cost us a cheap goal again. His positioning and decision making are letting us down, again, and Wenger needs to look at that position as well as more cover in defense.

I don't see it costing us considering the margins of victory over the two other teams who now look like they are competing for a spot mean that Arsenal will win the head to head if they are level on points but it would have been nice to wrap it up. Away to Braga is not a match I would want to play now though.

punky 04-11-2010 19:55
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Quote:
England's 2018 World Cup bid has been "significantly harmed" by a newspaper investigation into the bidding process, says a key member of the campaign team.

A member of the Fifa executive committee previously claimed there would be no backlash against England.

But it now seems the Sunday Times probe into two members of the committee has left England with a mountain to climb ahead of the vote on 2 December.

"It has significantly harmed England's bid," a senior member told BBC Sport.

With four weeks to go to the decision, England's bid team has not given up all hope of turning the situation around.

But senior sources say that the prospect of any future media investigations into the conduct of Fifa officials - including a potential Panorama programme on the BBC - could be fatal for their chances.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9157121.stm

I think this just shows how morally and ethically bankrupt FIFA are. Just because most of the members are from banana republics doesn't mean they should be holding our free press against us. I thought the bid was supposed to be on which country is best suited to hold a football tournament not which countries won't prove that their grubby little palms need greasing.

This will just give Blatter and the rest of anti-anglo cronies the excuse to pass us for another 2 world cups.

Uncle Peter 04-11-2010 20:04
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by punky (Post 35117789)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9157121.stm

I think this just shows how morally and ethically bankrupt FIFA are. Just because most of the members are from banana republics doesn't mean they should be holding our free press against us. I thought the bid was supposed to be on which country is best suited to hold a football tournament not which countries won't prove that their grubby little palms need greasing.

This will just give Blatter and the rest of anti-anglo cronies the excuse to pass us for another 2 world cups.
Like a red rag to a bull and here's to the press digging up a bit more dirt on them. It's about time FIFA's past caught up with it.

wwe 04-11-2010 22:57
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has any one heard if Joe Cole going to be able to play on Sunday or is he going to be out with the injury?

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Go on gerrard what a Hat-trick
final score 3-1

Niles Crane 04-11-2010 23:04
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Who cares about the score. Did you see John Henry's wife?

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wwe 04-11-2010 23:07
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yer i seen her. it was her 1ST time here.

superbiatch 05-11-2010 10:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Niles Crane (Post 35117904)
Who cares about the score. Did you see John Henry's wife?

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/...YedOe/340x.jpg
My guy was quite shocked last night when I informed him "I'd do her!" :D

Just goes to show what money can buy eh ;)

yesman 05-11-2010 22:04
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FA Cup latest:

Rochdale 0-2 FC United of Manchester. 49 mins :erm:

Damien 05-11-2010 22:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yesman (Post 35118303)
FA Cup latest:

Rochdale 0-2 FC United of Manchester. 49 mins :erm:
Awesome!

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Nuts. 2 - 2.

punky 05-11-2010 22:45
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Now that's what the FA Cup is about.

Damien 05-11-2010 22:45
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2 - 3!!! Last minute goal!!!

yesman 06-11-2010 17:24
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After the Lord Mayors show

Anyone but Bolton please....

Hom3r 06-11-2010 17:29
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I see spurs where playing against 12 men today.

yesman 06-11-2010 17:41
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Hargreaves career is over surely.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/9163714.stm

punky 06-11-2010 18:09
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My heart goes out to the Defoe family. How much more heartache must they suffer?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...e-missing.html

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35118615)
I see spurs where playing against 12 men today.
Come on, be realistic. Bolton were considerably the better team. The first goal was off-side but they deserved the other 3. We were sloppy and just couldn't get hold of the game despite 5 in midfield and were restricted to counter-attacks.

We were much better when The Hudd came on. Had he started, maybe we could have done something different.

We really need to get a handle on these post-CL games. We can't afford to keep throwing them away.

Shadow Demon UK 06-11-2010 18:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yesman (Post 35118627)

Sounds like it was just a muscle problem and not his knees which is good. This type of thing happens a lot with players coming back from long-term injuries so hopefully he gets over it and is back soon. It was good to see him back if only for a few minutes.

DocDutch 06-11-2010 18:36
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so manure had some luck again for a "change" with scoring in the dying minutes

Damien 06-11-2010 18:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by punky (Post 35118639)
We really need to get a handle on these post-CL games. We can't afford to keep throwing them away.
Being a top four side is harder to achieve than people typically give credit for. It's hard to get there, as Spurs found out last season, and harder to stay there when you have to play big games during the week. Although Bolton are a difficult side to play, especially at the Reebok. I noticed Bale was quiet again, it seems English teams know how to mark him. Their right back was never left exposed in the way Maicon was by Inter.

punky 06-11-2010 19:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35118653)
Being a top four side is harder to achieve than people typically give credit for. It's hard to get there, as Spurs found out last season, and harder to stay there when you have to play big games during the week. Although Bolton are a difficult side to play, especially at the Reebok. I noticed Bale was quiet again, it seems English teams know how to mark him. Their right back was never left exposed in the manor Maicon was by Inter.
I don't doubt that having no European games last year helped us and Citeh over Liverpool.

I disagree about Bale though. I thought he was sprightly. The commentator said prior to Pav coming on that he put 8 crosses in. Our finishing wsa blunt today but the their CBs were very organised. His crosses were good but I don't think too much beat the first man let alone the second. He didn't get the ball as much as usual though.

I think the injuries are really biting us, especially in defense. King, Woodgate, Dawson and then there's no Defoe, VDV, Lennon.

Cobbydaler 06-11-2010 19:35
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Oh dear, poor old Dons...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/9161840.stm

yesman 06-11-2010 22:31
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Cambridge United 0 - Huddersfield Town

Bring on The Mariners :)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...es/default.stm

A good effort by Cambridge and they almost nicked it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...up/9140141.stm

I have no doubt Cambridge will get pulverised a week on Tuesday at The Galpharm Stadium, but well done to them nonetheless

Derek 07-11-2010 05:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 35118682)
Yep one of Mark McGhee's bi-annual requests to be considered for Celtic manager. :D Surprisingly there isn't any bitching and moaning about the referees this week...

Pity the match was spoiled by a disgraceful display from the Celtic 'fans' at half time. And I'm not talking about the spelling of bloodstained. :mad:

http://willievass.photoshelter.com/g...0rTofGM7Iink/4

Damien 07-11-2010 16:34
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Shambolic performance from Arsenal. Again. Seriously, one of the worst I have seen from them. Newcastle were first to every ball, so many misplaced passes. Fabregas anonymous. Silly mistake cost us a point. Unbelievable.

yesman 07-11-2010 18:35
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
FA Cup 2nd round draw, well one in particular.

How about this......

AFC Wimbledon or Ebbsfleet United v Stevenage or Milton Keynes Dons

They both have to win their replays first of course

wwe 07-11-2010 19:58
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
What a game for liverpool today. We are back and on a roll.

superbiatch 07-11-2010 20:43
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
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Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35119153)
What a game for liverpool today. We are back and on a roll.
Lets not get ahead of ourselves ;) But there were signs of the old Torres today - class!

punky 07-11-2010 20:53
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
What did I say about Liverpool? A couple of goals extra today (which it sounds like you could have had) and you could have gone above us.

superbiatch 07-11-2010 21:56
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by punky (Post 35119176)
What did I say about Liverpool? A couple of goals extra today (which it sounds like you could have had) and you could have gone above us.
Yeh there were a few other opportunities which we didn't capitalise on but still Chelsea were poor. They looked sharper in the second half but Reina in goal, some decent defending and the fact it was one of those days which they were never gonna score is an accurate description. Not to take it away from us, a decent win and hopefully a bit of a turnaround for us :)

Uncle Peter 07-11-2010 23:46
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Anyone see the lad in the paddock holding up the secret coded message behind the Chelsea bench?

"Fresh juicy mangoes £5 each"

instructions for Agent Hodgson I reckon... mind you sounds like one of Rafa's cryptic anecdotes.

superbiatch 07-11-2010 23:55
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 35119286)
Anyone see the lad in the paddock holding up the secret coded message behind the Chelsea bench?

"Fresh juicy mangoes £5 each"

instructions for Agent Hodgson I reckon... mind you sounds like one of Rafa's cryptic anecdotes.
Have to admit that had us puzzled, must go on the forums and find out tomorrow :)

Shadow Demon UK 08-11-2010 17:07
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Sydney Sam take a bow! Fantastic goal...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-DrSlFiucE

Damien 08-11-2010 23:15
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
You really have to feel disappointment for Owen Hargreaves don't you? I was very pleased he had, seemingly, made a come back for United and only to hobble off in the first few minutes.

It's rather tragic and made all the more disappointing when he is the kind of model professional that English football needs and so often doesn't get. He is an intelligent footballer who played abroad and added different aspects to his game. Still hope for the recovery but the future looks bleak.

gazzae 08-11-2010 23:47
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
I'm not sure its bleak yet. If the knee had broken down again then I'd agree but its a different injury and from what ive heard one that can be expected after so long out of the game.

punky 09-11-2010 00:11
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35119637)
You really have to feel disappointment for Owen Hargreaves don't you? I was very pleased he had, seemingly, made a come back for United and only to hobble off in the first few minutes.

It's rather tragic and made all the more disappointing when he is the kind of model professional that English football needs and so often doesn't get. He is an intelligent footballer who played abroad and added different aspects to his game. Still hope for the recovery but the future looks bleak.
AFAIK it's a hamstring not his knee. Which is no unusual as he's been out so long and concentrated his fitness on his knees not his other muscles.

This is the problem Ledley King has. His rehab takes so much attention to his knee that he doesn't get enough regular exercise for his other muscles. Si its kind of like me suddenly going out and running miles at full blast.

Damien 09-11-2010 14:17
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
What are your opinions on Andy Carroll getting an England call up? Considering his past record and his impending court case?

yesman 09-11-2010 19:59
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
AFC Wimbledon's thoughts on the possible FA Cup game against Milton Keynes Dons....

http://www.afcwimbledon.co.uk/news.p...Open=5349#5349

I take it they are not in favour of it happening

NoKnowledge 09-11-2010 20:31
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35119833)
What are your opinions on Andy Carroll getting an England call up? Considering his past record and his impending court case?
I'd like to see him on a trial basis, and then make a decision.

Capellos own rules are he only picks in-form players and Carroll is in-form.

Arthurgray50@blu 10-11-2010 00:02
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
What a dispicable behaviour by Celtic fans on Saturday, against our brave forces, by saying Poppies will not be displayed on there shirts this weekend.

But probabely the fans will get away with it, the biggest problem is that the past should be forgotten, but for some sick fans,obviously it is not. l used to be a fan of Celtic, but no more.

gazzae 10-11-2010 00:25
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoKnowledge (Post 35119992)

Capellos own rules are he only picks in-form players and Carroll is in-form.
I thought the rule was no more judging by some of the players he took to the World Cup.

NoKnowledge 10-11-2010 11:13
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 35120081)
I thought the rule was no more judging by some of the players he took to the World Cup.
Did he change it?, I wasn't aware of that.

Pog66 10-11-2010 12:52
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35120074)
What a dispicable behaviour by Celtic fans on Saturday, against our brave forces, by saying Poppies will not be displayed on there shirts this weekend.

But probabely the fans will get away with it, the biggest problem is that the past should be forgotten, but for some sick fans,obviously it is not. l used to be a fan of Celtic, but no more.
Link (c/o Arthur's Link Posting Service).

The club has the following on their website to commemorate the fallen. Therefore the actions of a mindless few should not tarnish the club as a whole

gazzae 10-11-2010 12:57
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoKnowledge (Post 35120173)
Did he change it?, I wasn't aware of that.
Well if you class 3 goals and 4 assists in 31 league games as being in form for a striker.

NoKnowledge 10-11-2010 13:26
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
He's just starting :D

Derek 10-11-2010 13:38
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pog66 (Post 35120201)
Therefore the actions of a mindless few should not tarnish the club as a whole
The Green Brigade are a group given their seats and welcomed by the Celtic coaches and management. Their silence about this and previous sectarian and offensive banners until the media backlash for this one was deafening.

Still by showing themselves up for the clueless idiots they are (previously the spelt Celtic wrong on a banner...) hopefully they'll fade into obscurity soon enough.

Pog66 10-11-2010 14:22
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
...from my one visit to an old firm derby many years ago the sectarianism is not limited to one side of Glasgow.

no place in football for any of it IMHO

wwe 10-11-2010 15:21
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
man u vs city tonight
i do think man u will win that game as they are bigger and better then city

Uncle Peter 10-11-2010 21:39
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
1-0 to the reds at half time but how? another comedy performance from Mr Carragher up to now. Hooftastic.

73 mins - Flash of inspiration: Hodgson replaces Robo-Kuyt with a statue of the late Christian Poulsen.

Mal 10-11-2010 23:09
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Sorry, but what were the goggles the bitter fans wearing, all about? Were they blue-tinted goggles to give the illusion that City are a big club? ;) :D

Uncle Peter 11-11-2010 01:01
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Hodgson on tonight's poor performance:

"I'd put that down to Napoli, Blackburn, Bolton and Chelsea - all with a small squad of players."

Hodgson at the start of the season:

"We were unbelievably over-staffed when I came to the club and truth be known, we still are over-staffed"

What a whopper. Hodgson for Ingerlund!

Mal 11-11-2010 01:09
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 35120638)
Hodgson on tonight's poor performance:

"I'd put that down to Napoli, Blackburn, Bolton and Chelsea - all with a small squad of players."

Hodgson at the start of the season:

"We were unbelievably over-staffed when I came to the club and truth be known, we still are over-staffed"

What a whopper. Hodgson for Ingerlund!
Well, you do only have Torres and Gerrard ;) :D

Uncle Peter 11-11-2010 01:11
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mal (Post 35120641)
Well, you do only have Torres and Gerrard ;) :D
Aye and we're overstaffed so which one do you want?

Mal 11-11-2010 01:15
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 35120642)
Aye and we're overstaffed so which one do you want?
Come on, you're out of the bottom half of the table now (unfortunately I might add ;) ) give Hodgson some time.

To be fair, I did think that he was way over-rated at Fulham. Did well with a small team, but that was his limit.

Uncle Peter 11-11-2010 01:28
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Oh but I insist! as representative of the Celts/East Slavs (delete as appropriate) I hereby offer this man as tribute to the mighty nation of Ingerlund.

Shadow Demon UK 11-11-2010 11:10
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
An intresting picture from last nights derby....

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2010/11/55.jpg

I wonder what he's looking for? :erm:

yesman 14-11-2010 15:09
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Another club on the verge of administration, this time it is Sheffield Wednesday.

Quote:
The Owls face a winding-up petition in the High Court on Wednesday over an unpaid PAYE tax bill of £600,000.
The League One club are talks with three potential buyers, and a takeover would stave off administration.
But Wednesday's main creditor, the Co-operative Bank, may now decide to place the club into administration in order to secure the £23m owed to it.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ed/9187930.stm

Matty_ 14-11-2010 18:32
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Chelsea 0 Sunderland 2 :shocked:

The premiership is so close this year, it seems any team can beat any other on a given day...
Allthough it`s not over yet!

Delta Whiskey 14-11-2010 19:11
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty_ (Post 35122276)
Chelsea 0 Sunderland 2 :shocked:

The premiership is so close this year, it seems any team can beat any other on a given day...
Allthough it`s not over yet!

Chelsea 0 Sunderland 3

Well that was a turn up and no mistake. Well done Sunderland.

Matty_ 14-11-2010 19:22
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta Whiskey (Post 35122304)
Well that was a turn up and no mistake. Well done Sunderland.
Your not wrong there, fully deserved win for Bruce`s boys, maybe City letting Onuoha go was a wrong move, he did look like he had something!

Bad week for Chelsea what with Ray Wilkins saga et al.

wwe 14-11-2010 21:34
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta Whiskey (Post 35122304)
Chelsea 0 Sunderland 3

Well that was a turn up and no mistake. Well done Sunderland.
wow really chelsea lost 3-0?

wwe 18-11-2010 17:02
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard out for three or four weeks with injury. Thanks to last nights england game.

Matty_ 18-11-2010 19:19
Re: Football Season 2010/2011
 
Regarding last nights "game", it really did show the gulf in class between England`s players and France`s. The skill and composure when on the ball displayed by most of the French team was outstanding compared to the England team who couldn`t control the ball for toffee. Has marking/running with a player been banned by Capello? The amount of times the French were able to play neat and tidy football without an England player getting near the ball was frankly embarassing, even when they did get it everyone ran away from the ball carrier so he even had to hoof it up front or go backwards or sidewards.
No disrespect to Newcastle or Blackpool but when your two main strikers are from clubs that have only just come up to the premiership you know the situation is pretty grim. Carroll looked ok but the future? If that`s the future then :erm:
The players just aren`t good enough technically, the only one who would probably make the top 20 worldwide sides is Gerrard, the rest look distinctly average :(


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