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He went too far. Even for him with what he said. Wiley was shown to have run more than most players and had only recently passed a fitness teat. Fergie's comments where designed to deflect attention from United's poor performance but this time he shoes massive disrespect to the ref and caused people to unfairly question him! So much for the Respect campaign!

So it's good he said sorry

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England highlights on BBC 1 10:15 :)

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Yep, as announced here ;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ls/8300758.stm

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what highlights?

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DO NOT click the link, it has the result on it.:mad:

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the play off for that last world cup spot looks very intresting both Russia
and france in the mix

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Maradona seemed happy with Argentina's late winner last night

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoXmL_4pzzQ

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No handball there then :D

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I'm really looking forward to Uruguay v Argentina tonight, it's a massive game with the winner qualifying and the loser, most probably playing a qualifier to get to the world cup. I'm hoping Argentina win it.

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you just know that come the world cup we will at some point end up playing Argentina

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Yep, difference is this time we should stuff them and get one over their fat druggie cheat of a manager. :D

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8305317.stm

A nice touch from Cardiff City.

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They're just copying what Wembley did on Wednesday, they over 100 soldiers specially invited for the game..

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A balloon scored aganst Liverpool :D

I've just seen it and it was a brilliant finish, wrong footing Reina :rofl:

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It was actually a beech ball with the word Liverpool written on it :D

and the ref should have disallowed the goal btw

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The ref should have disallowed it. It seems to be from a Liverpool supporter though. So wouldn't like to be in his shoes right now.

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Yeah i would be livid if it was against us and not ruled out, but it's okay because it's Liverpool :)

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I am hearing it didn't hit the ball now.

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It did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSOorkAqSqw

Should it be disallowed though? Is there a rule to legislate for this? If it's unfair on Liverpool to allow it, surely it's unfair on Sunderland not to? It's not as if the shot wasn't on target and if there's a bump etc in the grass, goals don't get disallowed.

As far as i can see, the referee had no choice but to allow it. I'd be surprised if any Liverpool player argued otherwise too.

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Very unfair on Liverpool. They are quite a way of the pace now though! United for them next. A loss there should confirm they won't be title contenders.

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If i remember rightly , when this happened to Man City it was deemed it was the goalkeepers responsibility to clear the box ??

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It shouldn't have been given, it was a comfortable save for Reina before it hit the ball. From what i've heard though Sunderland fully deserved the win and it could have been 3 or 4 nil.

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Well it certainly seems standard practice for goalkeepers to clear balloons etc from their area. It'll be interesting to watch the highlights later, to see how long it was actually on the pitch.

It seems it was actually a beachball, not a balloon.

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No it wasn't. It probably would have been - big difference. For all you or i know, Reina would have made a complete howler and missed it. The same reason the last man gets sent off instead of the last man gets sent off and the opposing team is awarded a goal, even if a goal was almost certainly going to be scored.

Like i said earlier, goals don't get disallowed for erroneous and poor pitches.

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Classic! Just when you think Liverpool loosing can't be beat, life finds a way.

Another good game at OT, despite BWFC kicking lumps out of us, who knew Ronaldo leaving would make us more entertaining?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5V0w...layer_embedded

think this is a better version :)

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That kid is going to have a few sleepless nights.

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Yes there is a rule regarding foreign objects on the pitch, the match should have been stopped and a drop ball taken where the incident occured, the ref should be in a bit of trouble over this.

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I understand what your saying, but surely the ref can use some common sense and see that the ball being on the pitch gave Sunderland a huge advantage. It's not the same as a poor pitch, as that's something that is constant throughout the whole game for both sides, not like a ball that's on the pitch for a minute infront of one teams goal. It will be intresting to see how long it was on the pitch and if Liverpool had a chance to get rid of it though.

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poor lad has to go to school as well :erm:

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Common sense would also suggest Sunderland's advantage was pure luck, so why should they be punished for it instead of Liverpool?

A bump in the grass is not a constant. The amount of times a goal has been scored due to a random bump on the grass is endless. Not only are they not all over the pitch, but they're then usually repaired once the damage has been done.

Is Liverpool's strength in depth really so poor, without Gerrard and Torres, even a beachball can beat them? New lows.

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They got 97 mins to score, should be enough.

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A bump on the grass isn't a foreign object is it. It's shocking that after all the publicity surrounding refs at the moment, this one cant even get the basic rules correct.

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These are the official laws of the game: http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesandR...ameen_0910.pdf

Can you please point out the exact ruling regarding foreign objects, which you refer to? As the only reference to objects i can find is regarding players throwing or using them in some way. Thanks.

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/10/28.jpg

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thought that was only the case when Manure play they get an extra 7 mins to score when it looks like they are losing.

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Nope, just that when it is anyone else, nobody cares.

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it doesn't matter. the balloon is part of the field of play whilst it is on the field of play.

Lol Newcastle.

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MOTD just started the Pool game, and that ball is in the back of the goal! So Rena must have removed it. Unlucky.

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I've waited til I saw the game before commenting, and feel we had some hard luck there today. But we aren't performing well, nobody looked comfortable and something has got to change :(

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IF we win 19 this year, Benitez is gone in May. Even if we don't win it, Chelsea, Arsenal or I dare say City have more chance, and he will be on his last legs. He has spent way too much money on a crap squad. Torres is the only great signing he has made, and he has spent more than everyone bar Chelsea (I think)

Once Benitez goes, Torres is gone, can't wait to see if he likes EPL and will consider UTD or if he will be back to Spain. And then you have StevieG, he is closer to the end than the start, same with JamieC, don't see it getting much better any time soon, bar some Playboy taking you over and buying it.

I wont rub it in, you seem OK, the rest of the people I know that support Livepool are going to get it in the neck, they make my life a misery at times.

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Liverpool. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

I shouldn't laugh, but without Torres and Gerrard they're average, and Sunderland punished them. Just like United are average without Ronaldo and Tevez, and now Rooney.

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Suprised me today, we played really well, battered BWFC first half. Second half, first 20 mins, not sure Bolton got into our half. They kicked us off the pitch and the ref let them get away with it, all over us last 15mins.

Normally, minus Rooney, we are pants, he runs UTD, even when Ronaldo was in Red. Rooney is the most complete footballer in Europe, and I will always argue it. And he is still four years from his peak.

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No need to trawl through the rule book, it's in this interview

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...nd/8312531.stm

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Page 21 - Powers and Duties:

The Referee stops, suspends or abandons the match because of outside interference of any kind

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If that's the rule, then from next week, the fans that sit behind the goal (and support the golie's team) will fill up the penalty box with balloons. The opposite teams will have to score without hitting any balloon. It will be like snooker :D

In Countdown there is a guy with a dictionary checking the words. How about a 5-th official with a rule book to check the rules?

And how about giving a Dyson to each Golie? They could hoover the penalty box when they are not busy!

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Is it outside interference or an object on the field of play? It's not clarified.

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Apparently Manchester city have put a 30 Million pound bid in for the beach ball :shocked:

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Well his/hers/it`s stats are pretty good, only a few minutes on the pitch and a goal :p:

All joking appart Liverpool did not deserve to get anything out of the game and Sunderland should have rapped it up with a second. Unless they have another good run in the champions league i can`t see Benitez lasting much longer...

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BBC Headline

No link yet

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/8314326.stm

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not sure why FIFA \ the FA feel the need to drag a match out as long as they can now.

Every first half you get 2-3 mins and ever second half you get 4-5 mins. Why ?

I wish they would get rid of that stupid board as all it does it mean they have to put some number on it all the time

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Most substitutions are made in the second half and i expect fatigue and time wasting tactics would also cause more fouls and delayed play also.

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the thing is if you add up the 30 seconds and goals for the second half it usually comes to 3-4 mins. So are they saying if there were no goals and no subs there would be no injury time ?

it's the same when there is an extended injury. When that happens and the game stops for 5 mins you get 5 mins extra, but what about all the other time they are meant to add on for goals and subs, that usually disappears as otherwise they have to put up an extra 10 mins

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and he is, dropped from this weekends premier league games

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ol/8314819.stm

His fellows haven't been to supportive either

His mistake has been widely criticised by a number of his former colleagues with Jeff Winter, Dermot Gallagher and Graham Poll all stating their surprise at the error.

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Think I'll dig out my beach ball and go to Posh on saturday then ;)

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You won't be getting a Liverpool one though, a lot of United fans who are going to the match on Sunday have already bought them up and are now sold out on the Liverpool website :)

Reina may be a bit busier than usual on Sunday :)

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All joking aside because we know we lost that game because we were rubbish. If there is any larking about, I expect the rules to be followed :dozey:

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I imagine there will be vigorous searching of Man U fans going into Anfiield on sunday......and 13 yr old scousers:)

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Liverpool will search Manchester United fans ahead of this Sunday's clash between the sides at Anfield for any items, including beach balls, which could be thrown onto the pitch and potentially cause a repeat of the "freak" goal scored against the Reds by Sunderland's Darren Bent last Saturday.

Full story: The Guardian :cool:

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They won't get all of them :)

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And the rules dictate if we win we mercilessly rip the urine out of you. Should Scouseland beat us then the same shall be expected in return :)

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Totally acceptable :tu:

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Gerrard off, ho hum! :rolleyes:

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Rangers 1-4 Unirea Urziceni. How embarrassing....

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And is that 4 losses in a row now for Liverpool? :angel:

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Awful lack of effort from Arsenal. They needed a second goal and only tried for it in the last 10 minutes.

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Still. Two home games against AK and Leige to come. Still topping the group.

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Liverpool should still do it but it's risky for them now. Away to Lyon is gonna be hard.

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The beachball culprit has been found ;)

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Scottish teams are woeful, jeez.

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English teams aren't much better. Hopefully United and Chelsea can redress the balance.

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Trying to work out what Liverpool need to do it qualify.

Winning at Lyon and at home to Fiorentina should do it.

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And for anybody considering getting hold of a beach ball for the Liverpool match this weekend, you better think again with the news that police have banned all inflatables for the Anfield match.
Manchester Evening News


Why do they always have to spoil our fun? :(

I'm still hopeful some will get past security :)

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Do you attend many games then?

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I used to, not so much anymore about 3 or 4 a season. I used to go to most home matches and a few aways.

Apparently the police had already said before the beach ball thing we're not allowed to take our banner in reply to this

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/10/12.jpg

We'll have to wait for the home game.

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Rooney just ran out.

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Torres is on, no Gerrard.

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Loads of beach balls on the pitch, coming back on as fast as they are clearing them, and all from the Liverpool fans!

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Long afternoon I think. We have yet to get a freekick, Valencia just had his shirt pulled off to stop him braking away, Torres gets one for tripping himself up. Then drops like a stone and gets Evra booked.

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Penalty, that was worse than the tackle Evra got booked for and 10x worse than what Berbatov got booked for. The Ref is shocking.

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And people call OT, that was the most one sided performance from a Ref I have ever seen, how anyone from Liverpool can be complaining is beyond me, we have had nothing from him. Took 46mins for us to get a decision on a 50/50. What happens 2nd Half these days, Torres gets pushed round in a Golden Chariot?

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Well I am shocked, a UTD player gets dumped to the floor after the ball is played, Liverpool break and score, amazing how strong Torres can suddenly become. Hope the Ref is happy.

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haha go on Liverpool.

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After all the focus on Refs the last few games, he goes out and puts in a 90min shift like that. It was shameful.

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He had no intention of booking or in fact punishing anything from a Liverpool player, how Carragher is still on that field only the Ref knows.

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The 12 men of Liverpool played very well, especially the one with the whistle.


Bad reffing aside they deserved to win.

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so King you know how it feels when other teams travel upto Old Trafford ;)

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Listen, we get away with murder at OT at times, I am the first to admit it, but nothing like that. Supported UTD since 1978, I have seen one game in all that time when I thought the Ref was a rogue, that was v Porto in ECL (Carried on from Porto screwing Celtic the season before) that is the first time I have seen a game in the ECL that was of the same nature, it was disgraceful.

I am getting texts from people that normally rub it in my face, and even they are saying it, and if they are saying it, then there must be something in it.

Ferguson may wanna think twice before he slates Refs again?

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It was the bad effinreffin that was keeping them in it. They look an ordinary side to me, back four is rubbish, I figured it was just a question of time before we nailed them, but it's hard work when you are fouled on every attack and it is play on. When Torres can get a free kick for tripping over his own feet, you are in trouble.

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I know what you are saying KB...this season the reffin have been an effin joke. and yes I agree with some of the rants Fergie, Wenger, Rafa et all have had about the refs.

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Yet another vintage performance from donkey today. How many goals did he manage again?

Part of me seriously wants him bombed out in january but that will leave us a man down for the CL.

Then again it always feels that way when he plays anyway.

Rio seriously needs a holiday. Or a good kicking. I can't figure out which one but SAF ought to start publically looking for a new central defender just to put the pressure on him and make him be in no doubts his place in the team is in serious jeopardy.

And if SAF still believes United are contenders with this shower of **** performance then maybe it's time the board needs to consider his position. A team like Liverpool we should have had stitched up up half time, with or without a scouse ref.

Oh and I can't help but raise a smile at the scouse fans online who are saying they think this win will be the turning point for liverpool which will see them go on to win the league :rofl:

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I had a six pack in the fridge, I started on that 20mins in, I could see how it was going by then, so the pain isn't as bad.

Everyone thinks the Ref is against them, it's the heat of the moment and Rose tinted specs, nobody with anything about them (as far as Football goes) can defend that performance from the Ref today. If the Ref has turned the other cheek on some of the fouls because of Ferguson, then Ferguson deserves it, the fans and football don't.

His performance needs to be looked at, need to nip all of this in the bud. Refs and Managers. I am totally against technology being brought into the game, would this type of banter even exist when they have Slo-Motion, 3D physics based simulations for every decision. But as things are going, it is inevitable. That game just brought it closer.

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Agree with that, they look a poor side to me. Not a patch on last season.

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Those same fans are aware they took six off us last season?

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Can't say I'd agree with that, we've had some woeful performances recently. I'd rather build on what we've done today.

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We're 2-0 up against West Ham at HT, good times!

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From a sensible perspective, what did you think of your team? I thought you looked rubbish. Lots of running and closing down, but I expect that from FA Cup v Lower Div teams, not from Pool. If the Ref had given us a break on a few tackles, given us a chance to get some momentum, you looked really vulnerable. The back four had no idea what to do when we attacked. Midfield looks really weak without StevieG. I think you will loose a lot of games this season.

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I think we were watching two different games, but i'd expect that from rival fans as its hard to be impartial when its your own team. I think Benayoun was looking good and is certainly a chance-maker, Lucas (suprisingly) good at times but we're still nowhere near our best. I think Kuyt is having a bit of a bad time atm and Insua wasn't his best but its something to work with now.

I also think the ref missed a few key decisions for us and had the tables been turned I'd probably feel hard done by.

But enough about us eh..... :p:

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So with Tottenham losing to Stoke and Man City drawing with Fulham, the chant "top 4 you're havin' a laugh" comes to mind \o/

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Your post-match comments never fail to amuse me Russ.

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Thanks? :confused:

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The league is not decided by big, showcase, games. It's decided by week-in, and week-out consistency and ability to last the entire reason. If the league consisted of the top 4 last season then United came third! Liverpool topping it.

The ability to get results from all the other teams consistently is what won it for United and Liverpool's inability is what lost them it. This season Liverpool look even worse, so one great result is meaningless if they can't put away the 'easier' games.

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Arsenal really need to cut this defence rubbish out.

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LMFAO @ Arsenal's inability to hold a lead against the Hammers!!!! :D

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To be fair they can't hold a lead against anyone. :mad: Absolute pathetic. They just switch off, then wake up and panic like hell.

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Seriously. Screw the keepers. Just sign two enormously fat defenders and place them on the goal line.

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Do you not think we are a far better team this season? I do. Better to watch. And still dangerous. We got bummed today, that is all, it was a disgrace, I am more confident of winning the Prem than I was for the last two.

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We must be watching different teams then. Plenty of commentators and sports writers have mentioned how United have lost a certain something since Ronnie left. We've been winning of course but you know those games we have where we don't play like champions and manage to squeak a victory? Seems like we've had more than our usual amount so far.

I know we don't normally hit our stride until around Christmas but what I've seen so far worries me. It's like we're relying on veterans like Scholes and Giggs to get us out of trouble far too much. You know my feeling about donkey, Owen hasn't proben himself yet and Rooney...ok he's Rooney but I'm not happy about leaving it all to him.

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I do. But we relied on Ronny way too much in those, to blast past five and grab a winner. This is just me, I supported UTD cos we where great to watch. Could have done what everyone else did, support Liverpool, I didn't. We are better to watch this season than the last two. We are deffo short of another top player in Midfield, a Ronaldo or a Rooney, but we are still OK.

I wont harp on about today, it was a joke, and that is that. Berbatov, and i know what you are saying ((£30Mill n Goals) but the guy has been outstanding this season, and tbh Liverpool had no idea what to do with him, yeah they did, foul and get away with it.

We can't win it every year, four on the trot will be incredible. We will have over £150Mill to spend come the end of this season. It's Chelsea n UTD this season, we wont get screwed again this season, not like that anyway. I am really confident we will do it.

We wont do ECL though, we aren't creative enough, we need another Berbatov or Rooney in Midfield, a genius.

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Or Magnus Eikrem is going to finally be that kid that comes from the reserves and saves us a fortune, cos if he isn't the real deal I give up.

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Graham Poll on Fergie's comments yesterday http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo....html?ITO=1490

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He basically missed the ball, went over the top of it and took Carrick out. Giggs was barged off the ball as he tried to head it. He got them both wrong. But then I would expect a Ref to stick up for a Ref.

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I don't think he got them wrong and Poll will say and do anything to up his profile, including dumping on a ex colleague, so I don't think it's a case of closing ranks either.

Manchester United defender Rio Ferdinand may be dropped from the first team because of fears that the 30-year-old is past his best.
Full story: The Sun

Past his best my arse he just needs to adapt his game a bit now he is a little older, he has plenty left in the tank.

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I just had this argument at work, the idea being that because Carragher touched the ball, it's a good tackle, wrong. I put it this way, Scholes is the worst tackler ever, he flies in and takes the man, but he generally hits the ball as well. If the ball isn't taken out of the path of the player, how is it a tackle?

If you watch the Pool goal, I think it is Berbatov, passes the ball and is dumped to ass after he played it, the Ref stopped, but played on, I thought he would go back and book him, instead he lets the game run and they score, Ferdinand actually caught Torres up.

But if you don't blame Ferdinand, you have to blame the Ref for not awarding a free-kick when we didn't get any advantage from playing on, but they can't do that.

The day The Sun get a Man Utd story right will be a day to remember, maybe they mean dropped for the Carling Cup?

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At least when United are losing at Old Trafford the referees always add on 10 or more minutes to enable you to win, so whats the problem.:D:D:D

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Fancy Slipping. Anyone seen G Nevilles sending off, apparently he touched the ball!

When the Legend becomes fact, print the Legend.

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Well done Lowestoft Town - you now have a 1st round tie against the mighty Wrexham! :D