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punky 02-02-2009 10:53

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I don't think he as suspended. He wasn't on the FA suspended players list immediately prior to the Bolton game. This link said he is clear: http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:...ient=firefox-a

Shadow Demon UK 02-02-2009 11:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34726042)
Surely what happens on the pitch is the responsibility of the ref? If a fan runs on he can stop the match. So if a player runs out and he shouldn't on the pitch the referee should take action.


So it's up to the referee to go through every single player on the two teamsheets to make sure they are clear to play in the half an hour before kick off when the team sheets are given in? I think the officials have better things to do, like prepare for the match. The club would have been told before the match that he was inelligable, there should be no need for the referee to check that all the players listed are elligable. At the moment it looks like the FA have messed things up and Spurs haven't done anything wrong.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34726069)
I don't think he as suspended. He wasn't on the FA suspended players list immediately prior to the Bolton game. This link said he is clear: http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:...ient=firefox-a

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Tottenham are set to hand a debut to midfielder Wilson Palacios, who has gained a work permit and served out the second match of a two-game suspension during the Londoners' win over Stoke.

Which match was served as his first match ban then? He was signed before the Burnley match, so the Stoke game was the only one that would have counted for his ban until you played Bolton. He didn't serve it whilst at Wigan as he played the weekend before against Man City.

It would have been intresting if Bolton had lost the match on Saturday, as i'm sure they would have put in a complaint to the FA about it, but as they won i can't see them bothering.

Russ 02-02-2009 11:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34726087)
So it's up to the referee to go through every single player on the two teamsheets to make sure they are clear to play in the half an hour before kick off when the team sheets are given in? I think the officials have better things to do, like prepare for the match.

The ref can check each players' boots before the match starts if he wants to. If a man gets on the pitch with spikes instead of studs on his boots then although he will get punished by the FA, the ref will get it in the neck for missing it.

Unless the rules have changed in the last 5 years. That very thing happened in a sunday league match in Swansea.

punky 02-02-2009 11:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34726087)
Which match was served as his first match ban then? He was signed before the Burnley match, so the Stoke game was the only one that would have counted for his ban until you played Bolton. He didn't serve it whilst at Wigan as he played the weekend before against Man City.

It would have been intresting if Bolton had lost the match on Saturday, as i'm sure they would have put in a complaint to the FA about it, but as they won i can't see them bothering.

Noone seems to know, which includes the FA. The only links I can provide are rubbish ones like Vital football, but it seems like the FA cup match counted even though he was ineligible.

Here's one that explains it, in lieu of any of the more tradional sites commenting.

http://www.rivals.net/news/pgarticle..._4882706&id=81

Arthurgray50@blu 02-02-2009 12:24

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Hi Sherer, For the first time ever, you have brought up the point, that l have been saying all along, One hour before the game, the referee is given the team sheet from both sides, it is down to him or her to check, everything that goes on that pitch is down to the ref. Therefore, if you have a dodgy player (and yes you get them) it is down to the referee in the end, this is why, there are not very many around, as referee's quit each month due to the aggro they get, especially Sunday's.:) Referee's have the hardest job possible - they can't win on anything.:)

SB_07 02-02-2009 17:30

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34725949)
I wish l could find something crap about the gooners, they are out of the running for the title, and Arsene, will be out of a job, lets see what happens next Sunday, when we wipe the floor, of the Gooners,

The big problem with Arsenal, they thought they were the big boys of NL, but it has gone downhill, and they haven't sign anyone in the window, probabely, as new players want Champions League football, and if they lose anymore games, they will end up with nothing - hooray.

How can a Tottenham fan talk rubbish about Asenal? Tottenham were supposed to break the top 4 for the past 3 - 4 seasons and now they're in a relegation battle. Tottenham have spent MILLIONS trying to get past Arsenal yet they still can't, and Arsenal spend hardly anything every season and still manage to stay up near the top.

Tottenham = biggest failure in the premiership along with Newcastle.



Anyway, looks like you guys are trying to tie up deals for Quresma and Keane with Bentley and Jenas going to Inter.......but

16:35 - Ha! Brilliant! Chelsea are reportedly attempting to hijack Tottenham's bid for Inter winger Ricardo Quaresma! They only have 25 minutes to do so, however.

TheDaddy 02-02-2009 18:21

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BREAKING NEWS Spuds bid for Berbatov, Defoe sulks and is set for a move to Portsmouth.

Newcastle sign a couple of unknown strikers from Lindsey Oil Refinery

Arthurgray50@blu 02-02-2009 18:38

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Hotflash from sky sports news == the archavin deal is off.

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Hi SB, at least we have players, that want to play for Tottenham, did you hear the news, that the Archavin deal is now off, and this was reported at 5-35pm.:o:

sherer 02-02-2009 18:41

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Keane back at Spurs and Arshavin deal is off is the latest.

Arthurgray50@blu 02-02-2009 20:05

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The Archavin deal is back ON, The deal involving Archavin, depends on the player giving money to Zenit, BUT Zenit are saying the deal is OFF, BUT Arsenal are saying IF the player makes that payment, then the deral is on - watch Sky SNs.

I am not a gooner, but l am giving you the news.;)

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The biggest laugh tonight is the FA, they will NOT be taking action against Bosingwa, for that nasty challenge on the Liverpool player at the corner flag, when he used his boot to kick him over, and that was ' studs' showing challenge ten times worse, than the Lampard challenge, what a bunch of ******s the FA are.

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According to Sky SN, the deal will go ahead for Archavin tonight, and this comes from Wenger himself.

sherer 02-02-2009 20:13

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the thing is even if they get him he's only really done it at international level and that is widely different from league and even more different than the fast paced prem

punky 02-02-2009 20:42

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I'd like to know how some snow stopped faxes, emails and bank payments.

But then again, its Arsenal. They always get with it.

Damien 02-02-2009 20:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34726457)
I'd like to know how some snow stopped faxes, emails and bank payments.

But then again, its Arsenal. They always get with it.

Come off it, Contracts need to be signed, medicals need to be done, and people like to meet. Even the people at the end of those e-mails, faxes and payments would need to get to work. Regardless, this isn't a 'Arsenal' thing, the same rules apply to all the clubs.

punky 02-02-2009 21:00

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Not Arsenal it doesn't.

You lot have had a month to do this deal and you're still haggling over fees and payments? Your club is a mickey-take. There's no way snow held this deal up.

Damien 02-02-2009 21:04

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Originally Posted by punky (Post 34726470)
Not Arsenal it doesn't.

You lot have had a month to do this deal and you're still haggling over fees and payments? Your club is a mickey-take. There's no way snow held this deal up.

Some activity is still going on, Spurs just sold someone to some other loser club. Besides, This always seems to be the case, transfer deadline day always has a last bust of activity.

sherer 02-02-2009 21:27

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I thought the rules were that the window shut at 1800. Some deals are announced after then as the clubs might not get a press release out straight away but there shouldn't be any activity going on afterwards, that's the whole point of having a window surely

punky 02-02-2009 21:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34726472)
Some activity is still going on, Spurs just sold someone to some other loser club. Besides, This always seems to be the case, transfer deadline day always has a last bust of activity.

Who have we sold this window?

Damien 02-02-2009 21:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34726489)
I thought the rules were that the window shut at 1800. Some deals are announced after then as the clubs might not get a press release out straight away but there shouldn't be any activity going on afterwards, that's the whole point of having a window surely

They are extending it if the clubs can prove the conditions had an impact on the sale. But yeah, technically there are ways the deal happens after the window but was signed before.

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Originally Posted by punky (Post 34726498)
Who have we sold this window?

If your referring to Spurs, Pekhart.

Arthurgray50@blu 02-02-2009 22:20

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This has been a very good point that has been raised, The player was in the country this morning, so therefore, the good point is, why has it taken so long for the player to sign, it is true, there is faxes, emails, and the phone, and these are NOT effected by the weather, UNLESS, they have VM.

But we had this problem, with Archavin before, when Tottenham tried to buy him, and it was the same reason, Zenit, wanted the money complete, and that was 20.million and Spurs said no.

But football is a funny game, don't forget, the FA are not going to charge Boswinga for showing studs in the back of that Liverpool player, and that was a much clearer red card, than Lampards.

punky 02-02-2009 22:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34726513)
If your referring to Spurs, Pekhart.

Except we didn't sell him, we loaned him. Which sums up your knowlege of football really.

In the space of a few hours, Spurs have pulled a player from across the other side of the country via public transport, and sealed the deal long before the window closed. However Arsenal needs extra time due to inclement weather to sign a player who has been in north London all day long?

BS. Arsenal are abusing the system, playing for time to cover their poor negotiating.

Damien 02-02-2009 23:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34726544)
Except we didn't sell him, we loaned him. Which sums up your knowlege of football really.

:dozey:

Sorry for not having such a excellent command of football, but I was only letting it from this list: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7858331.stm. Which said he was 'out' didn't pay attention to how. I don't see why such a thing, about football, is worthy of being rude. :rolleyes:

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Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34726544)
In the space of a few hours, Spurs have pulled a player from across the other side of the country via public transport, and sealed the deal long before the window closed. However Arsenal needs extra time due to inclement weather to sign a player who has been in north London all day long?

BS. Arsenal are abusing the system, playing for time to cover their poor negotiating.

No one knows what is going on at Arsenal at the moment, some reports say it's signed, some say the guy has gone home. If they sign now, after the deadline, then Arsenal will have to prove the weather impeded the sale. It might be some other hitch but the contract is signed. Rumors are of a issue between Arshavin and his club, who want some of his fee.

Not to sure if a Arsenal fan stole something from you but you should really get over it. Otherwise you'll become like those Spurs fans that still can't come to terms with Campbell leaving for Arsenal years and years ago.

Arthurgray50@blu 02-02-2009 23:06

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The Archavin deal will be completed tomorrow, what a farce.:mad:

punky 02-02-2009 23:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34726550)
:dozey:

Sorry for not having such a excellent command of football, but I was only letting it from this list: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7858331.stm. Which said he was 'out' didn't pay attention to how. I don't see why such a thing, about football, is worthy of being rude. :rolleyes:

The point being that if you can't even read a transfer off a newswire properly then how how I am supposed to believe you that Arsenal aren't abusing the transfer window extension?

It would be nice if the FA turn around and say to Arsenal: "No, you've had a month to sign him, tough luck", but like hell that's going to happen.

Damien 02-02-2009 23:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34726567)
The point being that if you can't even read a transfer off a newswire properly then how how I am supposed to believe you that Arsenal aren't abusing the transfer window extension?

It would be nice if the FA turn around and say to Arsenal: "No, you've had a month to sign him, tough luck", but like hell that's going to happen.

I don't know Arsenal are not abusing the transfer window, I just said we don't know if they are. The deal may be completed, as I said there are conflicting reports.

punky 02-02-2009 23:12

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You've got a cheek calling me bitter, when you started calling our players losers. Let me guess, you were looking the other way when you typed that?

Damien 02-02-2009 23:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34726566)
The Archavin deal will be completed tomorrow, what a farce.:mad:

The stories I am reading are saying confirmed tomorrow. The signing may have already taken place. If not, The Premier League will decide if they have a claim it was prevented by weather. Since it's seems pretty evident that it has not, then that would be a hard claim to make.

I suspect there is a loophole in the rules and he has signed the contract, the deal has been made, but they are sorting something else out now. Maybe a secondary payment to the club as a result of, but not directly linked too, the transfer deal.

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Originally Posted by punky (Post 34726571)
You've got a cheek calling me bitter, when you started calling our players losers. Let me guess, you were looking the other way when you typed that?

I said some other loser club ;) Mostly to be flippant and because I didn't know the name of the other club. It wasn't a sustained few posts where I just have a massive go at you or Spurs. You seem to be quite angry at Arsenal and their fans for some reason. I don't really hold any ill will to other clubs, Spurs are run by idiots though who need to have more patience with their mangers. Sacking Jol has a mistake IMO.

Arthurgray50@blu 02-02-2009 23:41

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Hi Damien, First let me put it this way, Spurs are not run by a bunch of idiots, l am a Spurs fan, and proud of it, Don't forget Archavin was going to sign for us in the last window.

Lets put this transfer to bed, and explain what l know about the deal, A deal was arranged and agreed at 4-00 this afternoon, (deal not signed however), Zenit called the deal off, as Archavin, owed the club money directly, this is why the deal could not go ahead, l will be honest, why the deal is still getting the ok, beats me, the player was in the UK this morning, and TWICE he was taken back to the airport, to go home, then he was taken back to the Emirate's, the agreement was ' ONLY IF WEATHER INTERFERED WITH THE TRANSFER, COULD IT RUN OVER' then would you believe it, the Premier League staff went home, there CANNOT be one deal for one club, and the other clubs follow what they are told.

As for Martin Jol, l loved the guy, he was brilliant manager, but he didn't get on with Commoli, and that was that.

Ps, I am not an Arsenal fan, but l wouldn't have a go the club, l will wait till Sunday for that.

TheDaddy 03-02-2009 02:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34726544)
Except we didn't sell him, we loaned him. Which sums up your knowlege of football really.

In the space of a few hours, Spurs have pulled a player from across the other side of the country via public transport, and sealed the deal long before the window closed. However Arsenal needs extra time due to inclement weather to sign a player who has been in north London all day long?

According to Rafa you have been taping him up for quite a while though, some thing Harry seems to be making quite a habit of recently, seems like he is losing the plot keep saying 'there is a mole leaking transfer targets', it's YOU Harry, everytime he does an interview he name drops another player, don't take much to unsettle players these days does it, well that and a few phone calls I suspect.

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BS. Arsenal are abusing the system, playing for time to cover their poor negotiating
Alternatively

The clubs had been in discussions over the move for the duration of the transfer window, but the 1700 GMT deadline passed without any official word on the player's future. It was understood that Arsenal had agreed a fee with Zenit, during which time Arshavin, one of the stars of Euro 2008, accepted personal terms and passed a medical.

Seems like it was a done deal to me before the window closed, deciding how the payments are made is irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34726585)
Lets put this transfer to bed, and explain what l know about the deal, A deal was arranged and agreed at 4-00 this afternoon, (deal not signed however), Zenit called the deal off, as Archavin

Considering you don't even know the players name, how much faith can anyone have in what you know about the deal?

Shadow Demon UK 03-02-2009 10:01

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I don't know about anyone else, but if i was Robbie Keane i would be so embarrased about whats gone on over the past few months. He's basically proven that he can't play for a big club and is content winning the league cup rather than the league and champions league. He had his chance and he couldn't hack it and bottled it, he's jumped ship after a couple of months, i thought he would at least stuck it out until the end of the season. Even if Benitez wasn't playing him regularly i think he would have kept him as Liverpool now only have one real out and out striker and he would have got his chance to prove himself. The last place i would want to go to is back to Spurs, his confidance must be at zero. Whether it's good business for Spurs? I thought the whole problem a few seasons ago was that Keane and Defoe couldn't play together, thats why Defoe was always left on the bench and in the end left the club, why would things have changed all of a sudden? It's all very odd.

sherer 03-02-2009 10:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34726628)
The clubs had been in discussions over the move for the duration of the transfer window, but the 1700 GMT deadline passed without any official word on the player's future. It was understood that Arsenal had agreed a fee with Zenit, during which time Arshavin, one of the stars of Euro 2008, accepted personal terms and passed a medical.

Seems like it was a done deal to me before the window closed, deciding how the payments are made is irrelevant.

Doesn't it depend on when the FA get the paperwork ? If they got that in on time then as you say any details about the payments aren't that important as he will be registered as an Arsenal player.

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34726654)
I don't know about anyone else, but if i was Robbie Keane i would be so embarrased about whats gone on over the past few months. He's basically proven that he can't play for a big club and is content winning the league cup rather than the league and champions league. He had his chance and he couldn't hack it and bottled it, he's jumped ship after a couple of months, i thought he would at least stuck it out until the end of the season. Even if Benitez wasn't playing him regularly i think he would have kept him as Liverpool now only have one real out and out striker and he would have got his chance to prove himself. The last place i would want to go to is back to Spurs, his confidance must be at zero. Whether it's good business for Spurs? I thought the whole problem a few seasons ago was that Keane and Defoe couldn't play together, thats why Defoe was always left on the bench and in the end left the club, why would things have changed all of a sudden? It's all very odd.

I think this is more about Rafa wanting to have control of the team. He never wanted to sign Keane it was all done by Rick Parry and so by not playing him Rafa was making a point to the club, Keane not setting the world alight at Liverpool helped too.

Not sure what Liverpool will do now if Torres gets injured though

Damien 03-02-2009 10:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34726656)
Doesn't it depend on when the FA get the paperwork ? If they got that in on time then as you say any details about the payments aren't that important as he will be registered as an Arsenal player.

From what I have heard (2nd hand, from Sky Sports News) is the paperwork was sent to the FA before the deadline but the FA have not confirmed the transfer, partly because of a lack of staff.

Damien 03-02-2009 13:49

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Deal has been confirmed by the Player and his old club.

Russ 03-02-2009 13:52

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Couldn't someone just take points off Arsenal for the fun of it??? :D :spin:

LondonRoad 03-02-2009 14:09

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34726795)
Couldn't someone just take points off Arsenal for the fun of it??? :D :spin:

Quite a few teams having being doing it legitimately this season. Isn't that fun enough for you.:)

Russ 03-02-2009 14:12

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Originally Posted by harmitage (Post 34726806)
Quite a few teams having being doing it legitimately this season. Isn't that fun enough for you.:)

Yes it is but a nice 7 point deduction would just top it all off :D

Damien 03-02-2009 14:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by harmitage (Post 34726806)
Quite a few teams having being doing it legitimately this season. Isn't that fun enough for you.:)

:D:(:mis:

punky 03-02-2009 15:39

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34726628)
According to Rafa you have been taping him up for quite a while though, some thing Harry seems to be making quite a habit of recently, seems like he is losing the plot keep saying 'there is a mole leaking transfer targets', it's YOU Harry, everytime he does an interview he name drops another player, don't take much to unsettle players these days does it, well that and a few phone calls I suspect.

Keane wasn't tapped up. Redknapp was asked when he though of Keane, not if he wanted to buy him. He said himself all they had to say was no and that would have been the end of it. In the end they didn't say no because they wanted to sell him. A player who might be with a Premier League winning club is being tapped up by facing relegation? Come off it.



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Seems like it was a done deal to me before the window closed, deciding how the payments are made is irrelevant.
No, it isn't irrelevent.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34726793)
Deal has been confirmed by the Player and his old club.

Far from it. The FA haven't confirmed it neither has any club or player, and there's much more doubt.

http://gunnerblog.com/?p=1455

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The FA’s Director of Communications, Adrian Bevington, has spoken to the Russian media about the Andrei Arshavin deal:

“Yes, it’s true, the transfer is in doubt. There is a chance it will take us 2-3 days. The odds are 50/50. If the transfer is declared invalid, Arshavin will be returned to Zenit. We can’t rule this out. I don’t think that would be a severe ruling: both clubs had a lot of time to complete it during the window.”
And Arshavin himself said:

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I think so. The negotiations come to a close, the details tomorrow. Now I can say only one thing - if I play in the "Arsenal", then at number 23.
3 days now? Like hell this was caused by snow. Its Arsenal flouting the rules, plain and simple. There aren't many clubs thats would get away with it. Wigan wouldn't.

Julian 03-02-2009 15:59

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On the subject of Mr Redknapp - The Official Harry Redknapp Post Match Interview Decision Tree :)

Damien 03-02-2009 16:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34726862)
The FA haven't confirmed it neither has any club or player, and there's much more doubt...

..3 days now? Like hell this was caused by snow. Its Arsenal flouting the rules, plain and simple. There aren't many clubs thats would get away with it. Wigan wouldn't.

The FA, in that quote, said it would take 3 days for them to confirm, not that they are giving Arsenal 3 days to complete the transfer. Most sources are saying the paperwork is done.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...890692,00.html

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Zenit St Petersburg have confirmed Arsenal have signed Andrei Arshavin.

The Russian's on-off move to Emirates Stadium dominated transfer deadline day with the deal not being confirmed by the close of play on Monday.
Gunners boss Arsene Wenger told Sky Sports News on Monday that the deal would go through and was being held up as it was yet to be ratified by the Premier League...

..The Premier League is expected to finalise the paperwork on Tuesday to allow Arshavin to seal his switch to North London and Zenit claim the move has gone through in a deal worth more than £12million.
Also the 'snow' seems to have caused admin problems for the Premier League:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...ransfer-window

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It is believed all the relevant complex documentation is in place at the Premier League, but the transfer has yet to be formally ratified because of administration delays caused by the snow that crippled London's transport networks yesterday.

TheDaddy 03-02-2009 16:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34726862)
Keane wasn't tapped up. Redknapp was asked when he though of Keane, not if he wanted to buy him. He said himself all they had to say was no and that would have been the end of it. In the end they didn't say no because they wanted to sell him. A player who might be with a Premier League winning club is being tapped up by facing relegation? Come off it.

He said

Redknapp said this week: 'I won’t sit here and say I wouldn’t like to have Robbie Keane at my club because I would be a liar if I did.'

Why is he even commenting on other players if there is no ulterior motive for the comments, surely he has enough to concentrate on what with spuds dire predicament. So far that's Liverpool, Wigan, Sunderland and Middlesborough that have said he's been tapping up players, they cant all be telling lies.

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No, it isn't irrelevent
Looks like it is, even your own link suggests so, you know the one where you attempted to make light weather conditions

punky 03-02-2009 17:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34726892)
He said

Redknapp said this week: 'I won’t sit here and say I wouldn’t like to have Robbie Keane at my club because I would be a liar if I did.'

Why is he even commenting on other players if there is no ulterior motive for the comments, surely he has enough to concentrate on what with spuds dire predicament. So far that's Liverpool, Wigan, Sunderland and Middlesborough that have said he's been tapping up players, they cant all be telling lies.

And if he said "I won’t sit here and say I wouldn’t like to have Kaka at my club because I would be a liar if I did" AC Milan's lawyers would be in contact? Rubbish.

And speaking of Sunderland, the Sunderland that said they wanted to put in an offer for Bent? If Redknapp's quote is tapping up, then surely Sbragia's is.

If we tapped up Keane, do you think Rafa would have sold him to us within a couple of days at a £6m loss? Especially after we made them apologise and donate to our club charity? Yeah, right.

TheDaddy 03-02-2009 17:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34726929)
And if he said "I won’t sit here and say I wouldn’t like to have Kaka at my club because I would be a liar if I did" AC Milan's lawyers would be in contact? Rubbish.

And speaking of Sunderland, the Sunderland that said they wanted to put in an offer for Bent? If Redknapp's quote is tapping up, then surely Sbragia's is.

If we tapped up Keane, do you think Rafa would have sold him to us within a couple of days at a £6m loss? Especially after we made them apologise and donate to our club charity? Yeah, right.

Right so everyone else is lying, thanks for clarifying :rolleyes:

Damien 03-02-2009 18:00

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
It's been confirmed: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...888728,00.html

Quote:

Andrei Arshavin has officially completed his transfer from Zenit St Petersburg to Arsenal, signing a three-and-a-half-year deal with the Gunners.
The Russia international passed a medical and agreed personal terms with Arsenal on Monday, but the switch to Emirates Stadium was not sealed until the day after the deadline, following delayed ratification from the Premier League.

Turkey Machine 03-02-2009 20:30

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
If Arsenal flouted the rules, then they should be punished accordingly. If they didn't, all kudos to them for finally getting their fingers outta their asses and signing the goddamn player!

punky 03-02-2009 20:46

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Like the Woolwich Wanderers would be punished.

It started when they bought their place in the league one expansion from the FA in the early 1900s. Spurs finished 20th in league one, Barnsley finished 3rd in League two, yet the spot went to the Woolwich mob despite them finishing 6th in league two.

---------- Post added at 19:46 ---------- Previous post was at 19:45 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34726932)
Right so everyone else is lying, thanks for clarifying :rolleyes:

Talk is cheap. If we did anything wrong, then why not go to the FA? Put their money where their mouth is? Levy did. Everyone else would rather **** and moan where there is no case to answer.

Damien 03-02-2009 20:49

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34727063)
Like the Woolwich Wanderers would be punished.

It started when they bought their place in the league one expansion from the FA. Spurs finished 20th in league one, Barnsley finished 3rd in League two, yet the spot went to the Woolwich mob despite them finishing 6th in league two.
.

That was over a 100 ago! Neither of us were born! That is a massive grudge to hold :D

Anyway, It appears as if Arsenal did secure the player by the deadline so, as you so nicely put it, people don't need to moan where there is no case to answer

punky 03-02-2009 21:08

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Grudge, moi :angel:

I don't hold a grudge. If Arsenal signed him 3 days ago, i'd have been a bit jealous but that would have been it. However I from all the comments from the players in the deal I have seen, I can't see it being legal. Whether anyone thinks its worth challenging, remains to be seen.

Damien 03-02-2009 21:14

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
It seems Arsenal were close to the deadline, The Sun reported that the documents arrived at FA only a few minutes before 5pm. Any mistakes would cause a problem as the deadline would have passed so if any documents were missing the deal would have fallen though.

So far though, The Sun, Sky, the BBC and The Guardian are all saying the deal was done by 5pm.

Arthurgray50@blu 03-02-2009 21:28

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
To The Daddy, l trust you ain't having a dig at me, I was watching the deal all day, and ARSHAVIN, (if that is the way its spelt, my ways sounded the same) from the time he arrived in London, He was taken twice to the club, but the deal was called off twice by Zenit.

I was wondering, could Tottenham jump in a steal him, and this was the way it was going all day. As soon as l heard new about him, l put on straight on the forum, as everyone was keen to know.:mad:

Nugget 04-02-2009 10:12

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34727091)
<snip>I was wondering, could Tottenham jump in a steal him, and this was the way it was going all day. As soon as l heard new about him, l put on straight on the forum, as everyone was keen to know.:mad:

Come on Arthur - there was no way that Spurs were going to sign Arshavin. He's never played for them before ;)

Russ 04-02-2009 10:21

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
I know I can be pretty immature sometimes but surely it's not only me who can't help but quietly snigger (in the style of Beavis and Butthead) when reading the name 'Arshavin'?? :spin:

Nugget 04-02-2009 10:22

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34727298)
I know I can be pretty immature sometimes but surely it's not only me who can't help but quietly snigger (in the style of Beavis and Butthead) when reading the name 'Arshavin'?? :spin:

Good job they didn't sign his mate 'Bummphluff', innit :)

Turkey Machine 04-02-2009 14:18

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
So, Nottingham Forest or Derby County tonight? I'm rooting for Forest, cos it means I don't have to seek out tickets to Derby for the 5th round match against United!

punky 04-02-2009 14:52

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34727298)
I know I can be pretty immature sometimes but surely it's not only me who can't help but quietly snigger (in the style of Beavis and Butthead) when reading the name 'Arshavin'?? :spin:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/02/89.jpg

Arthurgray50@blu 04-02-2009 15:55

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Its really srange Nugget, in the transfer window, you expect clubs to buy ' new ' players, but Spurs bought players, that they sold in the last window, the only player that was new was Palascios. very strange. I was waiting for a certain last minute deal for Berba, but Harry's phone was engaged.

punky 04-02-2009 19:01

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
John Terry outed as a crossdresser! Sensational pictures inside!!11!oneoneone!1!

http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/..._trasnssexual/

:rofl:

Russ 04-02-2009 19:02

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
:eek:

Dear me that's frighteningly like him!

Arthurgray50@blu 04-02-2009 19:17

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Here we go again, one law for one, and one law for another, I am talking about the Lampard red card, if that was anyone else, it would have stayed. And the other one was Boswinga, who got away with that nasty foul.

What is the point of having officials at the top four clubs, if they are going to get away with the cards that are handed out.

pedantic 04-02-2009 19:23

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34727700)
Here we go again, one law for one, and one law for another, I am talking about the Lampard red card, if that was anyone else, it would have stayed. And the other one was Boswinga, who got away with that nasty foul.

What is the point of having officials at the top four clubs, if they are going to get away with the cards that are handed out.

To be fair, Lampards' sending off was a ludicrous decision in the first place. Bosingwa, on the other hand, should have got the book thrown at him.

Arthurgray50@blu 04-02-2009 20:54

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
If the red card was recinded, at least he should have had a yellow, as the intent was there, All officials must have that judgement, that if they deem the offence to be red or yellow, then that is where it stands.

I am a reasonable guy, and even though l support Tottenham, is if a player gets booked, then that is it, it is the Referee decision, and that is final,

What we have to look at here is the broader picture, any other club player, and it would stay, it is just not right.

sherer 04-02-2009 22:15

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
it's these stupid rules the FA have. Apparently the linesman saw it and didn't flag, no idea why that is, and so as it was seen at the time they can't do anything extra as the ref mentioned it in his report and said it was seen by the linesman.

Personally I think that law should go and if post match the FA can clearly see a mistake has been made they should be able to issue a card and \ or a ban

gazzae 04-02-2009 23:51

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
118 minutes of rubbish then ITV pretty much miss the goal.

iadom 04-02-2009 23:53

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 34723149)
Now you really are taking the p***.:D

Firepower, take away Gerrard and a fit Torres and whats left, sweet FA.:p:


Well, my earlier assessment of the Scousers awesome firepower seemed to upset the odd Liverpool supporter, :p:

Everton 1-Liverpool 0, cased proved m'lord.:D

Toothless would be an apt description.

I don't know what you were watching Gazzae, I saw the whole of the build up and the goal perfectly.:confused:

Jim.

Russ 04-02-2009 23:56

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Never mind Scouseland, there's always the Grand National....

sherer 05-02-2009 01:15

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34727956)
118 minutes of rubbish then ITV pretty much miss the goal.

yep I got the same thing as you, they went to an add break with 5 mins still to go and then you just knew when they came back I was going to miss a goal.

Also ended up with 4:3 ratio at the end too

iadom 05-02-2009 10:37

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Seems a lot of peeps missed the goal, in this area we did get a short flash of an ad break a few minutes earlier, it was only on screen for a few second, then the screen went blank before the live footy came back on well before the goal.:)

Jim.

Saaf_laandon_mo 05-02-2009 10:40

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
To me it did look like a technical hitch. It seemed like they lost the picture, went to adverts incorrectly and came back as soon as possible. I don't think anyone in ITV would have been stupid enough to schedule an ad break in the last few minutes of extra time.

Turkey Machine 05-02-2009 15:26

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Ironically, on the analogue cable feed I was watching it on, it came back bloody quick! But what a time to go to adverts; as bad as their F1 coverage of the 2005 San Marino Grand Prix (cut to adverts 5 laps from the end, come back for the last lap, with Schumacher right on Alonso's tail for about the last 20 laps), or the 2006 Japanese Grand Prix (adverts just as Schumacher's engine blows around Degner).

Hom3r 05-02-2009 21:54

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
I wet myself laughing when I heard this.

Now footy fans know how F1 fans felt.

This guys an idiot one goal missed in hundreds of hours of footy.

Quote:

Paul Snowdon from Merseyside said: "ITV needs to start taking its football seriously. This should never have happened."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7871844.stm

LondonRoad 05-02-2009 22:30

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
In Scotland and Ireland we had it on Setanta 2 and there was no hitch at all. Same coverage, same cameras, different commentators, no blips. You figure?

Russ 05-02-2009 22:32

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
I think people are losing sight of the bigger picture here.

Liverpool lost :D

Niles Crane 05-02-2009 22:42

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34728445)
I think people are losing sight of the bigger picture here.

Liverpool lost :D

Indeed. Plus...........

Quote:

Gerrard faces three-week lay-off

Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard will be out of action for three weeks after a scan revealed a torn hamstring.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ol/7871386.stm

LondonRoad 05-02-2009 23:00

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Fantasy football demons haunting me. Lampards red card means he's bound to miss some games so who better than to replace him with than Gerrard. :banghead::doh:

yesman 06-02-2009 00:03

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
http://forevermanutd.com/archivepics/munich.jpg

pedantic 06-02-2009 00:15

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harmitage (Post 34728464)
Fantasy football demons haunting me. Lampards red card means he's bound to miss some games so who better than to replace him with than Gerrard. :banghead::doh:

Lampard isn't banned though, his red card was rescinded.

iadom 06-02-2009 00:29

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pedantic (Post 34728501)
Lampard isn't banned though, his red card was rescinded.


I think harmitage was playing the irony card ;) I'm guessing he changed Lamps for Gerrard before the card was rescinded and before Gerrards hammy went.:D

He sounds as lucky as my missus with her FF team, she is banned from selecting United players, the kiss of death, She picked Gomes at the start of the season, recently brought in Defoe...need I say more.:rolleyes:

Jim.

LondonRoad 06-02-2009 10:19

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 34728509)
I think harmitage was playing the irony card ;) I'm guessing he changed Lamps for Gerrard before the card was rescinded and before Gerrards hammy went.:D

He sounds as lucky as my missus with her FF team, she is banned from selecting United players, the kiss of death, She picked Gomes at the start of the season, recently brought in Defoe...need I say more.:rolleyes:

Jim.

Exactly it. I was also thinking I'd get an extra game out of Gerrard due to the replay. :dozey:

Arthurgray50@blu 06-02-2009 13:16

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Can someone explain, why the game was on Setanta 2, here is Middlesex, although l watched ITV,

As it is strange the game was ion Ireland and Scotland, can someone explain, ITV SHOULD lose the rights, it should go to Channel 5, who produce some great football coverage, ITV should be taught a lesson, the most importan goal, going, and ITV miss it.:):mad:

LondonRoad 06-02-2009 13:26

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34728654)
Can someone explain, why the game was on Setanta 2, here is Middlesex, although l watched ITV,

As it is strange the game was ion Ireland and Scotland, can someone explain, ITV SHOULD lose the rights, it should go to Channel 5, who produce some great football coverage, ITV should be taught a lesson, the most importan goal, going, and ITV miss it.:):mad:

My understanding is that ITV have the right to show their choice of game in England only. That's why Setanta are free to show it in Scotland.

sherer 06-02-2009 13:29

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34728654)
Can someone explain, why the game was on Setanta 2, here is Middlesex, although l watched ITV,

As it is strange the game was ion Ireland and Scotland, can someone explain, ITV SHOULD lose the rights, it should go to Channel 5, who produce some great football coverage, ITV should be taught a lesson, the most importan goal, going, and ITV miss it.:):mad:

ASAIK the match was on Setanta 2 in Ireland, not sure about Scotland. As Ireland get the pictures from ITV and chose themselves when to have an ad break cut away to their studio etc they weren't affected by the problem.

ITV use different playout centres to send the pictures to different aerials across the country, these playout centres also insert the ads which is why you can get a different ad in London to Newcastle for local news and things. These playout centres are programmed with auto ad breaks at certain times of the day and it seems in some of them when the match went to OT someone forgot to remove the auto ad break and it kicked in.

It was a mistake pure and simple, plenty of other channels have done the same thing and missed things if we take sport off ITV then there will be very few channels left to show these things

pedantic 06-02-2009 20:03

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 34728509)
I think harmitage was playing the irony card ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by harmitage (Post 34728573)
Exactly it. I was also thinking I'd get an extra game out of Gerrard due to the replay. :dozey:

Oops! Mis-interpreted his post. :angel:

And, on the lighter side of the news....

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2211139.ece

What a plonker! :rofl:

Arthurgray50@blu 06-02-2009 22:22

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Well some plonker, pressed the wrong button, and l have no doubt, that on Monday am, some guy (and not the right guy, that is gurranteed) will get a card, called p45 and get re-employed by C4/5

Damien 08-02-2009 16:27

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Spurs 0 - Arsenal 0

Would not have taken that at the start of the game, certainly would have after the first half. Although both teams had a chance to steal it at the end.

Arthurgray50@blu 09-02-2009 16:00

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Hi Damien, What ruined it for me, was the sending off, the referee allowed play to go on and then stopped, the game, l was told, that someone else told the ref, and it is was not his officials. And it could have been the revelations of Steve Bennett.

I knew it would end up 0 0, Modric could have clinched it for Spurs, BUT we need to win games, and not draws, and we are too good to go down, my hots are WBA, BLACKBURN, and STOKE.

Damien 09-02-2009 16:08

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34730508)
Hi Damien, What ruined it for me, was the sending off, the referee allowed play to go on and then stopped, the game, l was told, that someone else told the ref, and it is was not his officials. And it could have been the revelations of Steve Bennett.

I knew it would end up 0 0, Modric could have clinched it for Spurs, BUT we need to win games, and not draws, and we are too good to go down, my hots are WBA, BLACKBURN, and STOKE.

Spurs lost their bottle after the game was in their grasp if you ask me, something Arsenal know all to well :rolleyes:. It was a sending off as far as I am concerned. You can't act like that with the ref..

pedantic 09-02-2009 17:19

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Scolari has been sacked.

http://www.chelseafc.com/page/Latest...551166,00.html

Kymmy 09-02-2009 17:21

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
I think Scolari's departure was half expected...

pedantic 09-02-2009 17:22

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34730590)
I think Scolari's departure was half expected...

End of the season perhaps, the timing seems strange to me.

Arthurgray50@blu 09-02-2009 17:42

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
I cannot believe that Chelsea, are thinking about getting Avram Grant back again, wasn't he sacked before.

I think they should go for an english manager, howabout Tony Adams, he needs a job.

Arthurgray50@blu 09-02-2009 17:58

Why sack the manager
 
We now have a situation in British football, where if the club isn't doing well you sack the manager.

Each club, fields 11 players, so therefore, they are playing for the shirt they wear, and get thousands of pounds a week, to run round for 90 minutes, therefore blame the players, managers of club have this attitude from players, ' you can't drop me, becuase of who l am ' some managers are scared to drop players, many players of todays game, think they are l'm it, and think they are untouchable, it is like at my club Spurs, some of them need a kick up the backside, and should be told, if you don't to play for Spurs, go? we are fighting relegation, so therefore, they have got to play there hearts out for the club, and many players in todays game, would not last five minutes years ago.

The manager can influence them to play, BUT they are not the ones on that pitch, the players today, just play for the money, NOT the great game of football. And what Chelsea, have to do, is drop the first team and bring in the reserves, they will probabely play better - and that is coming from a Yido.

iadom 11-02-2009 17:48

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
I'm sure the Latics new kit will have Leeds United quaking in their boots.:shocked:


Pretty in Pink :D

Jim.

Saaf_laandon_mo 12-02-2009 10:40

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 34731892)
I'm sure the Latics new kit will have Leeds United quaking in their boots.:shocked:


Pretty in Pink :D

Jim.

Thats my fantasy footy team name and kit..... maybe I should have copyrighted it lol

iadom 12-02-2009 10:52

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34732299)
Thats my fantasy footy team name and kit....


Are you trying to tell us something, ;):D

Saaf_laandon_mo 12-02-2009 11:06

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 34732305)
Are you trying to tell us something, ;):D

Judging by my results I should rename them to Not So Pretty In Pink

yesman 13-02-2009 00:34

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
WORLD'S WEALTHIEST CLUBS BY REVENUE

1) Real Madrid: £289.6m
2) Man Utd: £257.1m
3) Barcelona: £244.4m
4) Bayern Munich: £233.8m
5) Chelsea: £212.9m
6) Arsenal: £209.3m
7) Liverpool: £167m
8) AC Milan: £165.8m
9) AS Roma: £138.9m
10) Inter Milan: £136.9m

30) Aston Villa: An IOU note
Source: Deloitte & A Manu Fan: 2007/8

:D

Hugh 13-02-2009 09:48

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Number 5 may have revenue of 212.9 mil, but they ran at £66 mil loss for 2008.

Arthurgray50@blu 14-02-2009 21:20

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
I was watching the Watford v Chelsea game, and l want something answered here, Watford's ground is all seater, so why was allowed that the Chelsea fans were ALL STANDING, l was under the impression that if you were in an all seater stadium, the staduim rules and law was you had to be seated, so why was Chelsea fans allowed to stand up all the time, l have been to many grounds, and if you didn't sit down you could be ejected, Is there one rule for Chelsea and another rule for everyone else.

Turkey Machine 14-02-2009 21:35

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Every football stadium by law in this country is an all seater, however most clubs tend not to take notice of people standing provided there's only one person per seat and they're not crammed into an area. If they were ejected, or asked to sit down and refused, then that's their problem.

jellybaby 14-02-2009 21:59

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Turkey Machine (Post 34733890)
Every football stadium by law in this country is an all seater, however most clubs tend not to take notice of people standing provided there's only one person per seat and they're not crammed into an area. If they were ejected, or asked to sit down and refused, then that's their problem.

I'm afraid thats not correct. I believe all Premiership stadiums are all seater.

Arthurgray50@blu 15-02-2009 18:57

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 
Look into this item and see who do you believe, Steve Bennett the referee, had the bottle to come out and say things about players, who like to get booked, so that they can have a holiday etc, is being forced to retire. The PGMA, which controls the referee's are not renewing his licence at the end of this season, Although, he can carry on for another TWO YEARS.

Read into that what you like, but something stinks about this matter.


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