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Yawn why don't you just stick to supporting your own team instead of criticising everyone elses, Jose is one of the best he proved it at Porto, he proved it at Chelsea and he continue proving it where ever he ends up next whether he has cash to spend or not and btw Fergie has spent more than anyone over the last 10 years, you don't see people demanding Utd fans admit his success is down to cash do you? Oh and if anyone could do it why sack Ranieri in the first place?

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Erm I don't criticise everyone else's teams, just yours as well as Arsenal and usually Liverpool. Jose proved nothing at Chelsea other than with a large chequebook he could bring expensive players to the team. I'm not saying he's a rubbish manager, far from it. But the success of the team was more down to money than his skills.

Yeah SAF has spent a lot but his success came over a lot longer. He has never bought instant success. I don't suppose you noticed that Chelsea's transition from also-rans to being considered one of the 'top 4' began when Roman took over?

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Look what happened when the transfer policy was taken from his hands, in came Shevchenko and Ballack, out went Gallas, so much for money!

You don't buy success Russ, if you could Arsenal would be in the Championship not the top of the premiership, money only helps you if buy the right players, if it were about spending money Leeds, Spurs and Newcastle would have a cabinet full of trophies and have you considered the squad Chelsea had before Roman took over, they'd have probably challanged anyway

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:D :D :D

Oh dear what happened? Maybe you need to rub your lamp a bit harder :rofl:

Anfield's becoming a second home for us :D

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we played rubbish I don't even think Giggs touched the ball in the second half but what a win. Top of the league for the moment

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I've not said he hasn't made good decisions.

Your point would hold water if those teams had spent the same amount of money as Roman. As for the squad before he bought the league, yes it was good - his cash made it better.

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There are few pleasures in life as satisfying as beating the scousers at Anfield :D

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Thats the thing, they weren't his signings, they cost the most interms of transfer fee and wages, if it were all about money, these two would have sent the premiership on fire

Think back Leeds and Newcastle spent absolute fortunes, might not be as much as Chelsea but they still broke transfer records and yes his money did make it much easier for them to compete, however it also brought unforeseen consequences like pressure to win things and intolerable interference, money isn't everything, in fact to Jose and Ranieri it was a poisoned chalice

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Again the difference is that before Roman, Chelsea were already a pretty good team, so spending £20m+ on players is always going to make a significant improvement - Newcastle were a mid-table table team and didn't spend anywhere near what the Russian splashed out on.

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:D

I wonder if the scousers on here will now go AWOL, just like the Gooners are famous for doing. ;)

Indeed! :D

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would have been different if torres would have played ;)

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Newcastle finished 2nd, then broke the transfer record signing Shearer

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And failed to continue to make big name (and equally large fee) signings - therefore your comparison to Chelsea ends there.

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:confused:
We must have been watching different matches, we didn't let them get any decent chances on goal, only long shots from outside the area which were no trouble, apart from two or three very poor mistakes from VDS they never really looked like scoring, whereas Rooney missed a howler in the second half for us.

Torres did play :confused:

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Actually their manager left and things fell apart under the stewardship of others despite being backed to the hilt in the transfer market, therefore the comparison might be quite prophetic

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The wink indicates he was anonymous ...... I think

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Just let me see if I'm hearing you correctly - you're saying Newcastle's spending power in the mid 90s is on par with that of Chelsea's?

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No but then things are relative, 10 years ago they spent a lot more than most and ended up with a couple of losers medals to show for it, showing that simply throwing money at is isn't always the answer

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I feel like a beer. What to have? Ah, yes, a London Pride fits the Bill (Gallas).

Oh, and what happened with the northern monkey's friendly earlier?

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well at least Manure was top of the table for what...2 hrs? :D

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No, but throwing mega-money at it seems to help.

Ah welcome back. Arsenal won then did they?

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And the award, for the team with the most fickle supporters goes to.................


Please send your entry to us, on the back of a first class postage stamp. Unfortunately, there's probably only enough room for no more than 7 letters. But, as luck would have it..............

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Good to see that the goon fans are back to normal, only appearing when things go well for their team ;) :D

:confused: We were playing away, at Anfield and won one nil. Like Shadow said earlier, apart from a couple of errors from VDS, we kept them to shots from a distance.

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Ermm I've been here after wins or defeats so must be a dig at some1 else then ;) :P

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Yes, it is ;) :D

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Not always ;)

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okay I stand corrected...this season when arsenal lost I was in Holland so couldnt post.

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/09.../torresmf8.jpg

:D

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Did you only become an Arsenal fan this season? ;)

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2 clean sheets in a row. Truly is the season for miracles.

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errr no I've been 1 for about 15 years ;)

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And a third clean sheet, will do very nicely this weekend. ;)

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so the arsenal kiddies beat a veteran blackburn side :D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...up/7145781.stm

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Great news for United fans...........
http://www.sportinglife.com/football...ed&PREV_SEASON=

:tu:

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Apparently Cantona wants to play in it which will be good :)

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Merry Christmas Lawrie Sanchez

You can't help, but wonder, about the timing of chairmans' decisions sometimes. :erm:

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Ridiculous decision to make going into christmas where they are going to have to play loads of games, even if they do get a manager in quickly he won't be able to change much.

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Champions League last 16 draw:
Celtic v Barcelona
Lyon v Manchester United
Schalke v Porto
Liverpool v Inter Milan
Roma v Real Madrid
Arsenal v AC Milan
Olympiakos v Chelsea
Fenerbahce v Sevilla

Tough draws all round for the British clubs, apart from Chelski

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Celtic v Barcelona: Celtic are great at home but rubbish away so they need to be 2-0 to go to Spain to have any chance of getting through alough they have had a few decent results in the group stages and have a bit of a rep for playing in the big games

Lyon v Manchester United: Man U to get through cant see Lyon being too much of an issue for them to be honest

Liverpool v Inter Milan Tough draw for Liverpool I think they are maybe in the same boat as Celtic. If they have lead going into the away leg they should be ok

Arsenal v AC Milan This is a good match up and very close to call as well anyones game

Olympiakos v Chelsea Would expect Chelsea to win away leg 1-0 then finish the job at home

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They will probby play Celtic again lol :D

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so another game won :) at least Arsenal will be top of the table over XMAS :D

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Yes, at least you'll have something to brag about by the end of the season :)

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Nice to see Spurs doing badly after all the hot air they were emitting over the summer. I was hoping they would do worse after losing Jol though, he did not deserve to go imo.

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Things must be going well! ;)

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It feels so good to beat the scousers twice in a week :D :D

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liverpool need a few more players then they can play with the big boys

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Interesting Boxing day fixtures ahead.
Only one of the big four at home, and that is Chelsea V Aston Villa.
It would be nice to see Derby spring a surprise result, along with Portsmouth :D

Also, I am hoping the Sunderland players are hungover by a large dinner from the previous day...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...es/default.stm

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I think you will find that here in the UK the XMAS holiday includes Boxing Day.:p::D

Jim.

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:rofl:

Could have been a brilliant boxing day if Liverpool didn't get a last minute goal with Chelsea and Arsenal drawing and United giving Sunderland a lesson in football :D

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Jolly nice of those Gooner chappies to step aside and allow us our rightful place :)

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so another game drawn :) at least Arsenal will be second in the table come Boxing Day :D

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Another Internet driven football club directorship wannabe clique has emerged.

Is Citizen Smith still alive and kicking?

http://thepeoplesclub.com/

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It seems that Joey is in trouble again... ;) :D
Oh dear...

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Fulham appoint Roy Hodgson on a "long term contract" as their new manager...

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I think Barton is just an out and out thug, and should be banned from playing football ever again.
As for his role in society, obviously there is no hope either, it is about time he was put on some kind of rehabilitaion, like 2 years in clink :erm:

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I saw an interview with him on BBC a few weeks ago and they went through the list of what he's done in his career (punching a team mate in training, putting cigarette out in team mates eye etc.) and i couldn't believe that he was trying to get people to feel that he was the good guy and that it wasn't his fault etc. In my opinion he's just a thug and i will be suprised if any top club would want him in his team. I understand that he must be an easy target for yobs when he goes out, but why does he go out and react to these people?

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ll/7164150.stm

RIP Phil :(

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Sad news indeed, condolences to his young family, Motherwell and Scottish football. :(

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Very sad news, such a young age :(

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Now that's just not right, you'd have West Hammer would have done the job for us today. Now the Goonies think they're in for a good season.

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ow well Russ... you know it already mate ;) so thats 2 points clear now :D

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Yes, at least Arsenal with have 2 things to brag about by May - that they were top for Christmas and at one stage were 2 points clear of the eventual champions :)

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Reading the sad news about Phil O'Donnell somehow makes everything else rather less important.

A freak result at Goodison, Everton completely outclassed Arsenal in the first half, then completely outclassed themselves in the second.:rolleyes:

Never mind, African Cup of Nations anyone.;)

Jim.

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Oh well,

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LFMAO well thats more then Manure will have ;) :P

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Don't be daft - the premiership trophy will be displaying anti-London tendancies for several years to come. Your best bet is something like the League Cup.

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get real Russ, you know there is more quality in the London teams then there is in the North.

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Let's look at premiership winners since it began. Have they mostly been from London?

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"Quinn confident Cambridge will tame Wolves"
I am not so sure, but it was nice to read this article in the Times about Uniteds recent resurgence this season.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle3107861.ece

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There are some that like living a long way in the past......

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/7165976.stm

Old Firm game tomorrow has been cancelled as a mark of respect for Phil O'Donnell.

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heheheh at least Arsenal managed to beat West Ham ;)

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At the Emirates? Well done!

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I have just sat and watched Aston Villa play Spurs, and although it was an enjoyable game, the decisions by the referee was again under question, and the biase commentator of Andy Gray, it was only half way through the match when it was announced that the referee 'Tanner' was an inexpereienced referee, with ONLY 16 Prem GAMES under his belt, yet you have a fully experienced ref. Rennie, as a fourth official, l appreciate that ref's have to learn, but to me they should run the line, of prem games for at least TWO years, before they tackle, such highly motivated games, and Andy Gray was never a Manager, so why should he comment on games.:)

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Uriah Rennie, your havin a larf, one of the most incompetent officials currently on the list, just check how many Premiership games he has actually been given this season and check on the comments on his performance in that game.

Now we might not always agree with Andy Gray, Alan Green, Alan Hansen etc, but they have as much right as you, I or anyone else to an opinion, its called free speech.;)

Jim.

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So it appears that Fergie was not happy with the Man U fans, as they were too quiet.

Maybe they were nursing New Years hangovers!!!!

:)

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If fergie was in the stretford end with us yesterday I'm sure he would have thought differently!

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Doesn't surprise me. I've been to the theatre of chavs once and was amazed how quiet 75,000 fans can be even when they are winning. 35,000 Spurs fans with the 'ump still outchant a happy OT quite considerably.

As much as I dislike Roy Keane, I think he was onto something with the prawn-sandwich comment. Except he should have taken it further. Its not just in the boxes that the prawn-sandwich-mentality exists.

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:LOL:

Hope you had a good time.

I don't think fergie is doing himself any favours by getting himself on the wrong side of the fans though.

:)

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I've been to OT quite a few times and every time the atmosphere has been great, apart from one time when i sat in the south stand which is mostly populated, no disrespect, old foggies and corprate people who just sit there for 90 minutes. I've been to other premier league stadiums and nothing gets close to the atmosphere at OT in my opinion. Maybe it's changed recently as i havn't been this season?

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Your spot on, it will only make things worse between the supporters. Unfortunately the hardcore support is being priced out of going the games, I can only see things getting quiter as its bringing a different type of fan to the games now

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It makes me laugh when everyone moans about OT. It's like that everywhere now...our recent game at Anfield, it was our fans you can hear.

The fans that go to the away matches have always been the more hardcore of any club and more likely to actually sing...

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Women :td:

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I think it has a lot to do with things that are mentioned in this article - http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...lice-state-Fan

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Like I said, it's not just United, it seems to happen now at every ground...the away fans are more vocal...

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Exactly, i think its the same at every ground. I would think that at away grounds fans season tickets cannot be taken away so they are able to support their team properly, which is a great shame.

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Its a bit of everything.

Mal is right that away supporters are the most hardcore, and therefore most vocal. Also Andy is right that rising prices bring in a different kind of supporter. However, its not quiet everywhere else, as I have been to Spurs several times this season and even with our crap season, still easily outsing the away supporters, and generally giving vigourous support (unless we are an anomaly). Or maybe our lack of success is motivating supporters. SDUK is also correct with his link. I don't think its so much as the stewards are Nazis but the FA regulations are screwing the hell out of supporters. During the matches at WHL we are constantly threatened by the FA of playing our matches in a closed stadium. However we all stand up anyway until a steward comes along and shouts at us. We sit down for a moment, stand up again, and the process continues. I haven't heard of anyone being eject or losing their season tickets over it. That is Nazi-esque, (although I can imagine its not very much fun for kids). Plus it will be hard to eject most of the stand as well. Also the chants have changed a lot and become a lot more family-friendly. I don't think we've even called Wenger a paedophile this season. There was never much in the way of racism* but a lot of the character and colour has been lost I think, because people are afraid of the repercussions. That said we are still vocal with the generic, family-friendly chants, so it all comes around.



* Spurs fans aren't even allowed to call ourselves yids anymore.

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The thing with the stewards at United has been happening since OT went all-seater. The club were always blaming Trafford Council for "making" the fans sit down.

There have been a number of games on TV this season, where I have heard the away fans out-sing the home fans.

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Hi Gavin, I'm a yid, and have been for 30 years, and l am proud of the fact, l used to go to every game, until l got married, the proudest moment as a yid, was we played Hearts in Edinburgh, and there was just 30 of us travelled North for a friendly, and when Spurs scored, we did the usual, and we got a standing ovation, that we had travelled up there, and the friendship we received, l will never forget, it was brilliant, since then at WHL, there has been some silly rules brought out, but my main complaint about the Lane, is that the seats are too damn small - up the yids.:):) oh by the way, l still go the the Lane, and now l take my two sons, who l am proud of, and in two months, l will enjoy taking my grandson to WHL.

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Proud to be a yid, some people have no shame, you'll be telling us your proud to have herpes next :)

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The Daddy, that as well, yiddo.:)

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That was because the Council was made up mostly of city fans, when we stood up we were threatened with parts of the stadium being closed but when they stood up at home they turned a blind eye to it. :rolleyes:

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That might be because United are under Trafford Borough Council and City are under Manchester City Council... ;) It might just have been Trafford being awkward or United finding a scapegoat...

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Well it's the same thing, our council were being ******s whilst theirs were turning a blind eye.

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:erm: Okay...

Fair play to City then, for being under the jurisdiction of a council who weren't being arsey. We should move stadiums...that would have the added bonus of stopping all those jibes about Trafford United... ;)

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FA Cup 3rd round

Chasetown 1 - 0 up :)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...es/default.stm

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Premiership sides falling like ninepins.:D

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Great result for Oldham against Everton :tu: :D

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Man Utd never really broke sweat at Villa Park, a complete lack of ambition by Villa was duly punished, fantastic result from the Latics at Goodison. :cool:
I cannot understand sides like Blackburn who are in a safe position in the league putting out a weakened side.:(

Jim.

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A cure for insomnia it was...

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They mentioned this on match of the day and the answer was that teams like Blackburn will be looking to qualify into Europe via the premiership as opposed to the FA Cup (which they probably wont win). They will be looking for 6th/7th place in the league, hence why they save their best for the premiership.

I think that whilst we all want to see English clubs in Europe, the ease of which clubs can qualify via the premiership does undermine the FA Cup. I'd rather see only the top 4 qualify for champions leaque (top 2) and UEFA and the rest coming from cup competitions. I think teams like Liverpool give up to easy in the league knowing that 4th will be enough for an attempt at champions league.

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FA Cup 4th round.

Arsenal v Stoke City/Newcastle
Coventry v Walsall/Millwall
Oldham v Huddersfield Town
Swindon/ Barnet v Fulham/ Bristol Rovers
Wigan v Chelsea
Luton/Liverpool v Swansea/Havant & Waterlooville
Southend v Barnsley
Southampton v Norwich/Bury
Man Utd v Tottenham/Reading
Portsmouth v Plymouth
Derby/Sheff Wed v Preston
Watford vWolves
Peterboroughv Charlton/West Brom
Sheff Utdv West Ham/Man City
Mansfield v Middlesbrough
Tranmere/Hereford v Cardiff

I think that's right, I was in a rush.

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hmm, swansea versus the scouse at anfield- ah well, it was good while it lasted.

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OMG Sheff Utd v West Ham, we have to beat Man City

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Anyone else reckon Man United will return to the top tonight?