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Not really, we didn't have Beckham for the first half of the season when we were top, and when we won the league last year Beckham was injured for a lot of matches, including the big one. Now if you said the lack of Solskjaer, I would agree with you.
As for Keane, he may not be able to do it every game these days, but when he does, he's still one of the best defensive midfielders in the game.

I don't really see a problem. I don't mean that the representive should be right by his side, holding the cup! But he should wait for him at the dressing room and then escort him to the testing area and wait for him to complete the test.

I still don't think Rio should still be being paid.

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As all Gooners know, medals aren't handed out for being top in November. As for being injured, Scholes was injured most of the time United were doing ok earlier in the season and him coming back has coincided with the current startling decline, but it's not his fault. Beckham scored a lot, made a lot and hasn't been replaced and United are in danger of slipping back into third place permanently as a result, and this can all be traced back to Man U not being a big enough club for top stars any more.

Any fool can see that if you've got a great midfield of Beckham/Scholes/Keane/Giggs and you sell one, move one forward and move one back you leave a hole. The question is, has that hole been filled (playing Solksjaer out of position doesn't count as filling it)?

Keane's strength wasn't as a defensive midfielder, it was as a box-to-box midfielder. That's gone from his game due to age.

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Man Utd 3 - 0 Tottenham R
Giggs 30
Ronaldo 89
Bellion 90

Good to see that we've kept a clean sheet for once!!!

Wonder who will start in goal against Arsenal, Howard or Carroll

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after carrolls clean sheet and howards cinderella tactics i think we should keep carroll in until howards got his bottle back

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Oh come on, it was only Spurs ffs. They always bottle it at OT and they're desperate to avoid handing Arsenal the title at ****e Hart Lane.

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Well one of the best results of the day must be Oldham Athletic's 2-0 away win at Bristol City who had a 20 odd game unbeaten home record destroyed by the Latics.:D

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And that was one of two games that destroyed my wager :angry:

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You ooze such confidence in your posts, all spoken like a true Gooner, whose team are likely to win the premiership this season.

Its amusing to find the effect that being twelve points clear makes you a footballing expert, not only about Arsenal, but also Man Utd, Spurs and Chelsea. :rolleyes:

Have you just re-ermerged from your shell regarding last seasons shambles ?

If Arsenal win the title, which I have no doubt they will, it will be interesting to see if they can maintain such a high standard of football, and emulate Utd's grasp on the premiership title over the past 12 years.

What you have to consider is, Utd have some promising yougsters coming through as do Arsenal, the only difference is, Utd have money, Arsenal don't atm.

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Oo, bitter, very bitter. Kindly examine Tottenham's record at Old Trafford.

Arsenal do, of course, have a better manager, who actually manages his players and treats them as adults rather than injuring them with boots and taking time off to indulge in wrangles over racehorses. Seems to be working thus far.

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Although Arsenal's winning ways will be shortlived over the next few seasons and will inevitably return to their customary 'also-ran' status, there is absolutley no chance of United winning on sunday. As much as it kills me to say this, Arsenal are simply unbeatable at the moment and seeing as the game is at Highbury, United will have just play for pride. 3-0 to the Arse.

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seeing as wenger has only won the championship 3 times and never managed to defend it successfully.......
fergie has won it 8 times and defended it numerously......
bring on the horses and kick more boots as it seems to have worked so far in his managerial career....
as for arsenal having a better manager i presume you mean this season?
because last season i would have called him pathetic , because even fergie wouldnt tell the papers his team "would not lose another match all season" and then get taken apart every game when they had about 12 points and 3 games advantage.....laff , i nearly bought a spurs shirt.

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Anyone put money on AC Milan for the Champions League... 4-1 up with half an hour to go against Deportivo.

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Gonna change sides just for tonight, up the


CHELSEA

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i'm a big man u fan but i have to side with the gooners tonight, at least theyve not just gone out and bought a team, they've worked it from the ground up

COME ON ARSENAL :erm:

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Can see Arsenal slipping up tonight.. Although, I hope they dont. Was meant to be going the game, mate fecked up the tickets tho :anger:.. So off he's gone down there, and im stuck here :(

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After the stick I`ve had to take over the last couple of weeks at work from the scousers, its my turn to have a laugh tonight. Marseille2 Liverpool 1
:)

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Hangs head ... Now hopefully they'll get shut of Houllier and then sell Owen after Euro 2004

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Wohooo :)

From a Celtic supporter.

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Biscan was a effin' idiot, he knew he was last man and just have just hassled him without pulling :(

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Sad thing is that Gerard Houllier will no doubt be hounded out of Anfield after this, he is a decent man and I hope he gets the chance to get them into 4th position and into the Champions League.

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Cambridge United have named Frenchman Claude Le Roy, who has coached several national teams, as the struggling third division club's manager.

Le Roy replaces player-manager John Taylor, sacked by Cambridge's board last week. After losing 3-0 at Torquay on Saturday, Cambridge are just three points above the relegation zone and the bottom two have a game in hand.

Le Roy spent 15 years as a player in France and his managerial CV includes Cameroon, Senegal and Malaysia. He won the African Nations Cup with Cameroon in 1988.

Cambridge chairman Gary Harwood said the appointment of Le Roy, who will start on Monday, was possibly the most exciting in the club's history.

"In Claude we have secured the services of one of the most respected managers in Europe, if not the world," he said on the club's website.


:disturbd:

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A police officer playing football in an amateur cup final was shown a red card last night after he tackled a streaker on the pitch.

Brian Pritchard, 29, was sent off after catching the man during the match between Witton Albion and Woodley Sports in the Unibond Cheshire Senoir Cup Final.
As the Witton Albion skipper trudged off for an early bath, minor scuffles broke out amongst supporters at the game at Altrincham's Moss Lane ground in Cheshire, but there were no arrests.
To add insult to injury, 10 man Witton went on to lose the tense match 2-1 after extra time.
A spokesman for Witton Albion said: "Our central defender Brian Pritchard was sent off for apprehending a streaker, which was deemed violent conduct by the senior official.
"We are appealing this decision and are awaiting the result"
The identity of the streaker remains a mystery.

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Right then, who's for 3-nil to the Arse? Or even more? let's face it, if Man City can put 4 past us, what the hell is going to happen at Highbury??

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Well at half time, both Henry and Neville should both be off the pitch.

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It begins......

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85:30 Goal - Louis Saha
Arsenal 1-1 Man Utd.
Cross by Ole Gunnar Solskjaer (Man Utd), goal by Louis Saha (Man Utd) left-footed (bottom-right of goal) from left side of six-yard box (6 yards).Arsenal 1-1 Man Utd. Assist (cross) by Ole Gunnar Solskjaer (Man Utd) from right wing.


about time too , we have been the better team by far

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Well I am VERY surprised - I was expecting Arse to win. Could have gone either way really.

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maybe ole and saha should have played from the off?

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"The visitors thought they would be given the chance to equalise from the spot but had the most viable penalty claim of the match turned down after Campbell stumbled into Giggs.
The referee decided there had been no contact had been made to the anger of United's players. "

typical gooner ref disallowed a blatant penalty

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Let's face it, the ref let a LOT pass, on BOTH sides.

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Great game of football! great advert for the English game.

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yeh great game but we deserved to win , we played better

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Arsenal Duo in Punch-Up

Arsenal 'team-mates' Thierry Henry and Lauren had a punch-up in the tunnel after the 1-1 draw with Man United, according to reports. Henry is said to have thrown punches and a strop after Lauren didn't pass the ball to him in the final minute.

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roll on the weekend.........at least we've shown the gooners how we are meant to play.........
and they get mardy with each other if things dont go their way just like keano does with our team....
(first time this season there will be two decent teams playing in a match at villa park)........
:rofl: just kidding villa boyz :wavey:

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Following on from the tale of the player sent off for downing a streaker, here is another football tale from todays Telegraph.



A children's football league has banned clubs from contacting a newspaper that published the result of a high-scoring match.

The Sheffield and District Junior Sunday League was angered by a report in the Derbyshire Times describing a 29-0 win as a comprehensive trouncing, saying the losers could feel humiliated. The newspaper was told it was against the league's rules to report scores over 14.

Poor little dears.:rolleyes:

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Oi!!!!!

(We're nearly as good as the blue noses now, you know :blush: :erm: )

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Henry: United are spreading rumours

Arsenal superstar Thierry Henry has accused Manchester United of spreading the rumours of a punch-up between him and team-mate Lauren.

They couldn't hurt us on the pitch so they tried to spread rumours about us," he told the Daily Mirror.

"I don't respect people who spread this kind of rumour. I don't respect them as players and now I don't respect them as men. We can't be affected by this.''

:D :pp

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henry was mardy coz giggsy outplayed him

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shame it took till the end of March for us to have a good game though...

If Nist had converted that pen at OT and Pires hadn't dived against Portsmouth then the arse would have had 2 loses at the start of the season and it all could have been different.

Anyone else notice that all the teams play crap against the arse but have the best game of the season against Man U.. even when the arse play rubbish they still get all the luck and win.. never seen a team as lucky as them.

Sherer

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OOOOO sour grapes :pp

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yeh we have played crap since xmas really.......gooners have played well but have also been jammy......they also paid the ref on more occasions than we did.......
we need another fa-cup semi final of giggsy proportions this weekend when he put paid to gooners all on his own when we were down to 10 men

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I don't want to actually come out and say that, not only was the England - Sweden match meaningless, but also rubbish :( but I think that the Guardian commentary pretty much sums it up ;)

http://football.guardian.co.uk/news/...183091,00.html

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/3592327.stm

Does it really matter? We're not going to win :(

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Yes we are

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has anyone noticed that even though the arse are only at the QF of the European Cup they are already being talked about as winners of the tournament. That didn't even happen to us when we had qualified for the final!

i hate the way everyone talks up the arse and puts down united

We'll let them keep our league trophy for a year and then win it back next year..

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its called jealousy
and apart from that everyone that works for the media are cockneys and we all know they always support the cockney team thats winning at the time....
once chelski win something the media will drop the gooners and jump on the chelski bandwagon
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

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agreed absoloute *****e :mad: :mad: :mad:

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hey paulyoung666 whats happened to colin cooper?
he is in my dream team but doesnt seem to play anymore?

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I am going to stick my neck out and go for a united victory tomorrow :disturbd:

Arsenal 1 Man Utd 2

Runs and hides :dozey:

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United 1 - nil up at half time....could it be that we might actually beat the arse?

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We need another goal, can't see Arsenal failing to score, they should have had a couple already.:shocked:

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Reyes and Henry imminent :)

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There have been some 10 pointer dives from Arsenal this afternoon ......

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Whilst wenger's throwing everything on in the past ~15, You can tell he couldn't really care about the result, they've got far bigger things to contend with than this... Henry/Reyes are big players, for the big game on tuesday :)

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Did you see the Arse physio take a coin to the head? Pathetic behaviour, it's only a game.

But what a game!!!

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Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!

wooooo-HOOOOOOOOO!!!!

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:cool: :D :D :D

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Ha Ha Ha Ha :D

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Arse had Henri, United didn't have RVN....wow!

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Told you, didn't I ;)

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Indeed you did sir and I'm glad to be wrong! I really thought Arse would have won this game though.

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Man of the match for me was Ronaldo.

Brown had another great game as well, and apart from the first few minutes Carroll did have much to do at all.

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You make me larf! :D

There was a treble to get, to match Utd's, I think if Arsenal were winning, it would have been a different Wenger on the touchline.

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a great day for gingers what with this game and the national.........
scousers in the final would be nice :)

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Glad you find me so amusing;)

If this match was so important, Henry and Reyes would of started. IF it was half important, Wenger would of brought Henry & Reyes on at half time.. When did they come on? :o

My footy team had 2 semi's, and the runners up spot in the league to contend with.. Last week we played in the Semi final, and played one of our weaker sides.. (still won, but diff story:pp).. Why? Because we had a midweek league game... Make's sense.. Premiership (Already in the bag) & Champions League are far far far more important.

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but they will never match us until they win "THE" treble........
and they never will whilst they have holes in their arsenals

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Plenty of time mate ;)

Now manu are looking like a mid table side, and Chelsea still have alot to learn.. Arsenal have a few season's in order to get this treble :)

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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
roflmao-gcb........you should of posted this on the humour section steve :)
also whilst in the humour section tell everyone you support stoke.........that should get laugh of the day :)
:wavey:

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lol - Would of expected that kind of response from a Manu fan anyway;)

Yeah.. Support Stoke- Whats so funny? I live there? Kinda make's sense to support my local team (Unlike 70% off Manu' supporters), to top it off, we're doing quite well at the moment thanks :)

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You're still making me larf! ;) :D

It's not that it wasn't important, it was, they were up for the treble, saying that is just trying to justify that they lost ;) Losers justification if you want to call it. (Funny, if a Utd fan had come out with that, if we had lost, we would have been called sore losers) :shrug: :rant:

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There was at least 35 minutes left when they came on..

The reason, according to Wenger, that Henry didn't start was that he was very tired after international duty with France.

If Wenger had to choose a compeition to go out of it would probably have been the FA cup. But to say that he couldn't care about the result when his team is on for a treble is just silly. :)

Anyway, does this look like a man who doesn't care?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2004/04/17.jpg

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the premiership is not over yet Chelsea are within four points of Arsenal
all it needs is Arsenal to lose a game and it's wide open Again :sleep:

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I have to say watching the match and trying to speak with a customer at the same time was quite difficult but I just about managed it. I thought I was going to have a heart attack in the last 10 minutes. Have to ask about and see if any tickets going for the final, hopefully Utd v Sunderland :tu:

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Chelsea will not win the premiership. I said at the start of the season and I stand by my word. They just aren't championship material. They are second because United dropped points, not because they played any better.

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Come on Sunderland, really want them to win :tu:

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Whilst I admit I was flicking back and forth from this game to the F1 race, I have to say that even though there was some excitment, you could leave all 22 of these players on the pitch and Man Utd or Arsenal would bury them, and these are teams pushing for promotion:(

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Come on Millwall!! Stuff the Mancunians :D

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If you look out of your window right about now, you should see the phenomenon of the flying pig which represents Millwalls chances :D :D

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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh but it is only one game isnt it , fancy a small wager on the outcome ;)

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I think that's what the Liverpool Fans said when Dennis Wise last took a "lower" team to the final - just remind me what happened then .... ;)

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Edu for England?

Edu is considering throwing in his lot with England after failing to make an impression at national level with Brazil.

The 25-year-old, who has taken some time to settle Arsenal, has been in fine form for the Gunners this season, winning rave reviews on the left side of their midfield.

"People keep saying there are no left-footers for the England midfield and that it's a problem," said Edu.

"It is something to think about for me. If Brazil don't pick me for international football, then why not?

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:Yikes: That'd be wicked news :D

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Would that be 1988 when the Crazy Gang beat the Scousers ?

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millwall will make a decent game of the final......well done to wisey for getting them there.
lets not forget that a united legend "butch" had a lot to do with it as well.......he also deserves a cheer
i fancy giggsy and ruud to take them apart though......but its a shame saha is cuptied

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oh i forgot.......its not that i am a anti gooner or anything....(ahem)
but i hope chelski stuff em in the euro return this week

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Come on Chelsea

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man alive monaco are beating madrid 3-1 (5-5 on agg)

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Arsenal have just been beat my Chelsea and madrid my monaco

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What a fantastic week its been for the Arsenal. Stuffed by United and now by Chelsea. I bet, every united fan in the country wanted chelsea to win. The league isnt over yet, Arsenal will collapse at the end and let the Red army through.

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Well done Chelsea, Arsenal looked very tired in the second half- two tough games coming up against Newcastle and Liverpool, put your money on Chelsea now for the title!

Well done to Monaco too! Morientes is on loan from Real (who are also paying 40% of his wages)

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Now that would capitalise every Man Utd fans wish! :D

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there is a down side to Arsenal loseing i won't get a shag for about
a Month now :(

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Real Madrid beaten in Champions League and Spanish Cup Final, also had their lead reduced to one point in La Liga.
Arsenal beaten in Champions League and FA Cup, also had their lead reduced in the Premiership.
Can it get any better.:D :D :D

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yes Oxford United could stop slipping out of the pay off race :td:

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Yes it can get better.....Arsenal blow the title.

From treble to double to one to zero! :D

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Couldn't have put it any better, just come in and seen the score, fantastic. Well done Chelski, no apologies but I just can't stand Arsenal............

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I would not bet against Chelski, think the Reds have blown it but who cares :D :D
PS. England for a whitewash in the Windies, now that would be a perfect weekend.

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What does an Arsenal fan do when he's won the treble?
He turns his PS2 off and goes to bed!
:pp

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lol :D that's to true

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No, tonight was a great result for English football but there's no way the Arse will slip up in the premiership.