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Azreal 17-07-2008 16:29

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Ahh thanks Deko my mistake ,should have checked dates lol as was bit surprised to see the link as i try to stay away from the webwise site as much as possible and only go in with the highest amount of protection as is technically possible as you never know which type of Russian flu you might pick up.

Deko 17-07-2008 16:30

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
they need to correct the article it says

Quote:

The Information Commissioner's Office has cleared the system on condition that users are asked clearly to opt in or out of the service.
Where as it should be opt-in no leway just opt-in with the option to opt-out if you change your mind.


@Azreal , welcome but that is the old Interim PIA.

Azreal 17-07-2008 17:01

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
From the link by rryles in computer weekly

http://www.computerweekly.com/Articl...ing-trials.htm

BT's plans to test an online advertising delivery service based on customers' use of the internet is likely to go ahead "within weeks" despite a protest at the telco's AGM yesterday.

BT Retail chief Gavin Patterson said he was thinking of publishing the results of market research that he said showed 96% of consumers were happy with the service

Guess he hasnt seen this one lol from the nodpi site

http://www.nma.co.uk/Articles/38754/...aten+ISPs.html

pseudonym 17-07-2008 17:07

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SMHarman (Post 34602116)
Strictly speaking, from a non technical understanding of the previous 800 pages and other things I have read while Safari is compatible, Safari screams and shouts and warns the user of all the 307 redirects going on (after all they could be phishing attacks) and makes Phormed browsing such an unpleasant and intrusive experience that Phorm decided to not intercept flow with x-safari or whatever it is in the browser description.

Just tried the Windows version of Safari with a "simulation" of a triple 307 redirect via webwise.net, it didn't complain and happily accepted the webwise.net UID cookie.

Stuart 17-07-2008 17:16

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Not sure if this has been posted, but it seems the EC has decided that if the government doesn't act about Phorm, they will. They do not object to Phorm as such, but they *do* require it to be opt in, rather than opt out.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07...uk_over_phorm/

OldBear 17-07-2008 17:25

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Privacy_Matters (Post 34601965)
<snip>
Just typed phorm.com, and it loaded as http://bt.phorm.com/

Confirmed. :mad:

Can anyone confirm what the latest list of phorm domains and sub domains is now? I want to block (hosts) every one of their ******* sites if I can.

OB

Deko 17-07-2008 17:28

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
i'm not seeing that problem if i type phorm.com i get www.phorm.com from work

Just tried from a NTL leased line (yeah i know) get www.phorm.com

Also tried from a plus.net adsl @ home I get www.phorm.com

JohnHorb 17-07-2008 17:32

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Same here - is it only BT users who get bt.phorm.com?

Raistlin 17-07-2008 17:35

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnHorb (Post 34602218)
Same here - is it only BT users who get bt.phorm.com?

Nope, I get that site on PlusNet.

JohnHorb 17-07-2008 17:36

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Hmm... must be something to do with both resolving to the same address - 89.145.112.32

Raistlin 17-07-2008 17:37

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
By IP I get www.phorm.com

Graham M 17-07-2008 17:41

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnHorb (Post 34602224)
Hmm... must be something to do with both resolving to the same address - 89.145.112.32

Wouldn't make any difference, you can have multiple different web sites at the same address just with different domain names!

Deko 17-07-2008 17:48

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Yup its called host header redirection methinks to allow multiple domains/sites on one IP.

SelfProtection 17-07-2008 17:55

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OldBear (Post 34602211)
Confirmed. :mad:

Can anyone confirm what the latest list of phorm domains and sub domains is now? I want to block (hosts) every one of their ******* sites if I can.

OB

I also now see bt.phorm.com resolves to same IP as phorm.com

but in addition not sure how significant though:-
www.bt.phorm.net
bt.phorm.net

which resolves to 209.59.187.150 ????

---------- Post added at 17:55 ---------- Previous post was at 17:50 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by SelfProtection (Post 34602243)
I also now see bt.phorm.com resolves to same IP as phorm.com

but in addition not sure how significant though:-
www.bt.phorm.net
bt.phorm.net

which resolves to 209.59.187.150 ????

same as [phorm.net]

AlexanderHanff 17-07-2008 17:57

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
You all missed the really meaty result of the AGM protest which was the debate about the covert trials in HoL today!!!

http://www.publications.parliament.u...ldtoday/02.htm

BRAVO BARONESS MILLER AND EARL OF NORTHESK (PLUS VARIOUS OTHER PEERS).

Furthermore, HAPPY BIRTHDAY BARONESS MILLER!

Alexander Hanff


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