Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff (Post 34601665)

We handed out over 1000 fliers today and they all went to interested parties as opposed to just shoving them into the hands of random passers by.

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff (Post 34601665)

Indeed and many thanks for PG from inphormation desk for producing the flier text in a language which was comprehensive to the general public. We handed out over 1000 fliers today and they all went to interested parties as opposed to just shoving them into the hands of random passers by.

One very interesting situation which I almost forgot. There were some BT OpenReach lawyers there who discussed the system with one of the campaigners and until then had no idea that it was even happening. There were some very frantic phone calls made by them to their colleagues and they took a fist full of fliers with them to discuss the matter further.

Alexander Hanff

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff (Post 34601665)

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Furthermore, I have a responsibility to this campaign and this very much involves my own family as I am fighting to protect their rights as well. If I drop everything now what happens? Kent will see it as a victory and it could set the campaign back significantly. I didn't ask to be in this position but I am and I can't abandon my post at such a critical time.
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Originally Posted by tdadyslexia (Post 34601675)

Alex if you don't get some proper sleep you will end up in A&E, So take some time off and recharge your batteries, and spend some quolity time with your wife and child.

Originally Posted by phormwatch (Post 34601681)

OK, at some point in the near future, I think it would be a good idea to create an entity-relationship diagram for all the members of BT, Phorm, Home Office, etc. who are involved. Even better would be a time line of who did what and when.

Originally Posted by bluecar1 (Post 34601679)

still digging around eu directives, while the couple in the next room of the hotel keep me awake

just seen this in EU directive 95/46/EC

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peter

Originally Posted by warescouse (Post 34601685)

Good idea but we should be really be using UML (actors and stakeholders) ;)

Originally Posted by Privacy_Matters (Post 34601686)

Pete, its gotta be said - good work bud :D

Other areas of interest include the Directives covering the following:

- Children and Consent
- Protection of human Rights
- Equalities

I have a lot of references to these on my main PC; and will be home about teatime today and will post what I can. But pleaes also spend some time Pete, the more info we have the better.

:angel:

Originally Posted by bluecar1 (Post 34601691)

do we have space anywhere where we can place EC directive etc and links to them so as to get the full picture on our rights and what regs and rules we believe they have broken and why, if poss cross ref to exact directive, section, paragraph etc

then we need someone to go through and check we have drawn the correct conclusion and place it in a repository so we can sort the wheat from the chaff

i know richard clayton did a fair bit for us in his paper but there has got to be more, as we have many people on here with diferent thought processes and views

much better to be able to quote ec reg xyz section one, para 4 rather than just ec reg xyz this would look much more professional and organised, the only issue is do we hide it from public view to keep our cards covered or lay them on the table for all to see, including BT and phorm?

peter

Originally Posted by Digbert (Post 34601634)

I have feeling you may be right. A quick look through Phorm's financial reports paints a picture of a company spending nearly 4 years development on an ever changing system that doesn't work.

Here are a few extracts (my italics):-

2004 Final Results

We have also invested, in the latter part of 2004 and early 2005, in our technologies and particularly the PageSense Javascript application.Our efforts at the start of this year have been to ensure that the application is sufficiently robust and scaleable, ahead of a full commercial launch.

2005 Interim Results

We are making good progress in using the information generated by PageSense Javascript...
We are also close to finalising a partnership agreement with one of the largest ISPs in the US, which we believe will set an important precedent for the deployment of PageSense throughout the ISP market.

2005 Final results

Our PageSense Javascript application analyses the meaning and context of a web page being viewed by a user in real time, allowing us to deliver targeted advertisements to that user.
As at April 2006, we have signed agreements with ten entities to implement our PageSense technology, and have now established relationships with most of the largest US ISPs. A number of the signed partnerships are currently in testing phase, and the full revenue benefits are expected to flow during 2006.

Originally Posted by ilago (Post 34601698)

I have to wonder about some of that :shocked:

To the best of my knowledge for this period, they were still 121Media and they were still stealth installing ContextPlus and the Apropos rootkit. I was removing those infections from systems into 2006.

So they used the income earned from a despicable technological means of forced installation and forced advertising to develop an even more despicable technological means of serving advertising. :mad: