Re: Britain outside the EU
 

So we did agree to this?

So that would mean the EU would be able to take the U.K. to court ?

Surely this hardly makes us look good in front of other potential trade partners if we reneg on our obligations

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

Act in haste, repent at your leisure. Sign anything as long as the election is won.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57382239

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So, in summary, we signed a treaty to a self-imposed timescale, are now regretting it because it’s causing issues, and the suggestion is we abrogate the treaty?

Meanwhile, at the same time, we are rushing through trade treaties with future prospective partners - how will this look to them?

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

Wonder if those rushed treaties will be as poor as the rushed NI protocol?

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That was never going to happen whoever Corbyn was up against - Cameron, May or BoJo.

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Good explainer from the Beeb.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-53724381

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

Really, I thought he made his name as a reporter by getting sacked for telling lies :shrug:

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Great so we're oath breakers now, this the brexit dividend I keep hearing about, that we can no longer be trusted

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

Remember they're the enemy! It's as if some people can't accept the war ended more than 75 years ago :rolleyes:.

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

Treaties - don't forget this protocol was put in place to help preserve the Good Friday Agreement, keeping the border open between the North and the Republic.

Doesn't bode well for future treaties if we walked away from this one after 6 months. If I was a negotiator for another country trying to set up a treaty with the UK, I would put in some tough break clauses right now.

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Question is . . . do the people of NI want English sausages or are they quite happy with the EU ones?

Is there a mori poll anywhere? ;)

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From what I've read and understand (but i could be wrong) no other non EU countries are allowed to import chilled meat products into the EU.

We have equivalence, just with other non EU members.

Seems to be that some people think that because we were members of the EU that we should somehow be more equal than other non EU countries

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I would imagine that some kind of equivalence agreement will be the end result of all this. As far as I can see, it's the depth of equivalence that might be the sticking point. If it were as simple as the UK SPS standards are equivalent to EU ones, that's all good until one side or the other changes standards. There's a fine political line between agreeing equivalent standards and being a vassal state of the demonic EU.

Going back to the old trope of chlorinated chicken, the UK accepting this would not be equivalent SPS standards so we would either need 1 level of SPS standards for GB only and another for Northern Ireland with some serious amounts of paperwork to handle this or we're back to where we are now.

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Do the rules state that chilled meat products can be imported into the EU by non EU countries if standards are aligned?

Or, do they state that no non EU country can import chilled meat products such as sausages into the EU

It's the latter, go on, admit it, it won't hurt.

We voted to leave the EU, we've left the EU, we now play by the rules of a non EU country.

This is what the people who voted for wanted to happen, the people voted the government in with a huge majority based on the election promise to 'Get Brexit done.' Well, Brexit is done.

The people who voted for this increasing shambles of a situation, now need to own it.