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Carth 26-11-2020 15:51

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36059846)
And is that based upon facts or bias?

It's probably based on 9 months of 'making it up as you go along' aka Sage advice.


:D

mrmistoffelees 26-11-2020 15:53

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36059833)
Yes.

I’ve attended games with crowds from 200 to packed cup finals and plenty in between. I’ve done pub crawls to games, been on supporters buses and used public transport too!

So, knowing what happens on away days etc. do you think that supporters will observe rules? I'll give you pubs etc but unless they make trains dry & the coaches too. regulations will not be enforceable.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36059848)
It's probably based on 9 months of 'making it up as you go along' aka Sage advice.


:D

That would be the Sage advice that the government has consistently chosen to ignore when it suits them?

Paul 26-11-2020 15:57

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36059846)
And is that based upon facts or bias?

Yes.

denphone 26-11-2020 15:57

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36059849)
So, knowing what happens on away days etc. do you think that supporters will observe rules? I'll give you pubs etc but unless they make trains dry & the coaches too. regulations will not be enforceable.

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That would be the Sage advice that the government has consistently chosen to ignore when it suits them?

Yep so much for following the science as its more like following the politics..

Carth 26-11-2020 15:57

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36059849)
So, knowing what happens on away days etc. do you think that supporters will observe rules? I'll give you pubs etc but unless they make trains dry & the coaches too. regulations will not be enforceable.

Bit difficult for away fans to travel from - say Exeter to Carlisle during a lock down. Everton v Liverpool, or Spurs V West Ham would be easier, but no cross country travel needed there :p:



edit: "That would be the Sage advice that the government has consistently chosen to ignore when it suits them?"

Yeah, in the case of tier 2 London it seems so :p:

mrmistoffelees 26-11-2020 16:01

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36059853)
Bit difficult for away fans to travel from - say Exeter to Carlisle during a lock down. Everton v Liverpool, or Spurs V West Ham would be easier, but no cross country travel needed there :p:



edit: "That would be the Sage advice that the government has consistently chosen to ignore when it suits them?"

Yeah, in the case of tier 2 London it seems so :p:

So you accept that it's not Sage as you earlier specified. Excellent

jfman 26-11-2020 16:08

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36059849)
So, knowing what happens on away days etc. do you think that supporters will observe rules? I'll give you pubs etc but unless they make trains dry & the coaches too. regulations will not be enforceable.

I think if you turn around and tell a club with 50,000 season ticket holders they are permitted to let 4,000 fans in that statistically the chances of a whole supporters bus all getting a ticket are slim to zero. Similarly the numbers travelling to/from the game on each train/bus/tube service will be tiny compared to a normal match day.

Of the 4,000 (maximum) a sizeable number will travel by private car to games aided by the fact there will be less congestion and easier parking with the restrictions in place.

mrmistoffelees 26-11-2020 16:13

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36059857)
I think if you turn around and tell a club with 50,000 season ticket holders they are permitted to let 4,000 fans in that statistically the chances of a whole supporters bus all getting a ticket are slim to zero. Similarly the numbers travelling to/from the game on each train/bus/tube service will be tiny compared to a normal match day.

Of the 4,000 (maximum) a sizeable number will travel by private car to games aided by the fact there will be less congestion and easier parking with the restrictions in place.

Home fans might... Away fans historically car share especially long distance games

papa smurf 26-11-2020 16:15

Re: Coronavirus
 
I live north of london so as expected we get screwed by tier 3.

Carth 26-11-2020 16:16

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36059849)

That would be the Sage advice that the government has consistently chosen to ignore when it suits them?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36059853)

Yeah, in the case of tier 2 London it seems so :p:

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36059855)
So you accept that it's not Sage as you earlier specified. Excellent

When it suits them, try harder ;)

jfman 26-11-2020 17:08

Re: Coronavirus
 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...zeneca-vaccine

Concerns over the Oxford vaccine will hopefully be allayed if this peer reviewed data is in the Lancet at the weekend.

nomadking 26-11-2020 17:13

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059860)
I live north of london so as expected we get screwed by tier 3.

So nothing whatsoever to do with the number of cases etc in your region?
How far north of London are Kent, Slough, Bristol, North Somerset, and South Gloucestershire?

1andrew1 26-11-2020 17:50

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36059860)
I live north of london so as expected we get screwed by tier 3.

Plenty of areas north of London are in Tier 2 eg - Cheshire, Cumbria, York, North Yorkshire, Northamptonshire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire. Shropshire, Liverpool City Region including Wirral and Southport, Buckinghamshire, etc.

mrmistoffelees 26-11-2020 17:56

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36059872)
Plenty of areas north of London are in Tier 2 eg - Cheshire, Cumbria, York, North Yorkshire, Northamptonshire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire. Shropshire, Liverpool City Region including Wirral and Southport, Buckinghamshire, etc.

Scarborough in N Yorks has 296 cases per 100000 yet they’re in Tier 2

Please justify this ?

Paul 26-11-2020 18:06

Re: Coronavirus
 
I'm in T3 with 157 cases per 100,000.


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