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I'll vote leave regardless, I keep to my principles even when hopeless, I'm just well aware that I think we'll end up staying in.

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I know what you mean. I too have that feeling. People are too scared of change and can't see the bigger picture.

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Or perhaps they just disagree with your/Outers' viewpoints, and have their own interpretation of the information they are receiving (speaking as a likely outer, balanced on the cusp at the moment).

If we are not careful, this could turn into a re-run of the Indy campaign, with vilification and demonisation taking over from rational discussions - we may not agree with others' views, but we should at least not denigrate them for disagreeing with us.

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Indeed I totally agree but I fear it will go exactly the way of the indy ref. In fact, it is already.

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Britain won't be able to leave the EU for TWO YEARS because of biased Brussels rules, warns former head of the civil service

Britain's ex-top civil servant was today under withering attack for saying the idea of Britain quitting the EU is 'scary'.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz44TQKb493


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...93/BritainWont be able to leave EU for 2 years because of Biased Brussels Rules warns

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

I would expect it to take a couple of years to re-negotiate all the appropriate treaties - it's not like selling a used car.

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That's what I thought. The two year rule would work in our favour (probably) if we vote out.

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Let's hope others see it as clearly as we do.

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That depends on what sort of car it is... ;)

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A Kiddie Car perhaps?

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Tata Steel state rescue likely to fall foul of Brussels

Perhaps something for Plaid Cymru, the SNP and Labour to consider if they can distract themselves from behaving like simpering sycophants to the European Union for long enough to read and absorb it.

The exact same issues would impede state support in Scotland, and it's pretty clear the SNP are big fans of state intervention in pretty much everything.

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And people will still vote to stay in, even steel workers.

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You're expecting joined up, intellectual effort from nationalists?

Labour, it has to be said, should know better.

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https://twitter.com/afneil/status/715868070577876992

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This is disgraceful. What's wrong with good old British Steel?