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OLD BOY 04-02-2018 11:12
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35935357)
me too and dail fail not best source either
It's not only the Daily Mail.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-league-rights

These reports emanate from Gavin Patterson's statement that BT have a 'Plan B', but this might have been misinterpreted. BT have previously stated that winning the Premiership rights is not existential for them because they have rights to the Champions League and other sports which would allow them to continue to offer their own sport channels.

All of this does not necessarily mean that BT will not bid this time around. They may be merely facing the reality of having potentially to face more competition this time. With the number of viewers falling off and football now having to pay for itself on BT, they are not going to be paying silly money to retain these rights.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35935360)
Have to agree with you, the costs will not increase at the rate seen at previous auctions and may even stagnate.
You may well be right, but who knows what bids may be made by new global players. This may be an ideal time for them to disrupt the market.

Arthurgray50@blu 04-02-2018 20:00
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I heard a news Sports TV channel has started that available. On various Tv broadcastors.

VM have turned this down, as they say the channels wants too much money for it.

Typical VM, want channels on the cheap

Mad Max 04-02-2018 23:23
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35935539)
I heard a news Sports TV channel has started that available. On various Tv broadcastors.

VM have turned this down, as they say the channels wants too much money for it.

Typical VM, want channels on the cheap
Arthur, if you are so much against VM why don't you just toddle off and go to Sky? All you ever do is whinge and moan about VM, it's becoming extremely boring!

OLD BOY 05-02-2018 07:53
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35935539)
I heard a news Sports TV channel has started that available. On various Tv broadcastors.

VM have turned this down, as they say the channels wants too much money for it.

Typical VM, want channels on the cheap
Well, that does keep prices down, Arthur, and price rises are your other bugbear! It's either one or the other.

The channel is Freesports, only available in SD. No great shakes!

alwaysabear 05-02-2018 10:29
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35935577)
Well, that does keep prices down, Arthur, and price rises are your other bugbear! It's either one or the other.

The channel is Freesports, only available in SD. No great shakes!
Most can watch on freeview apart from those of us who live to close to Europe and are unable to receive it.

denphone 07-02-2018 05:08
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Dedicated TV channel Racing UK have confirmed they have secured rights to broadcast from all Ireland’s 26 tracks from January 2019 as well as all action from all-weather track Chelmsford City.

Quote:
The double swoop is both a major coup for RUK and a bitter blow for Attheraces, whose Irish content has been the jewel of its TV rights.
Quote:
The most significant battle ground for the future is which channel can secure non-terrestrial rights to broadcast Ascot.
Quote:
The Berkshire track, with its iconic royal meeting in June, is currently shown on RUK but its original partner was ATR and the track has made it clear it will negotiate the package which best suits it on all its broadcast packages.

There have been rumours of other RUK tracks also considering a switch.
It is also as yet unclear whether recent developments will have any effect on plans for ATR to morph into Sky Sports Racing next year.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rac...#ixzz56ObwBIpe
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Mad Max 07-02-2018 13:12
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Horse racing, must be the most boring sport after snooker.......

OLD BOY 07-02-2018 13:25
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35935935)
Horse racing, must be the most boring sport after snooker.......
Not if you put a bet on... :D

alwaysabear 07-02-2018 13:56
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35935935)
Horse racing, must be the most boring sport after snooker.......
Its about the betting nothing else really.

denphone 07-02-2018 14:13
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35935935)
Horse racing, must be the most boring sport after snooker.......
Good grief MM do you get excited by anything.;)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35935952)
Its about the betting nothing else really.
No there is also the breeding , the statistical analysis and much more besides alwaysabear plus if you go to the races you can even have a few drinks and a meal if that takes your boat as well.:)

Mad Max 07-02-2018 14:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35935960)
Good grief MM do you get excited by anything.;)
Yes, but it's not for public consumption.......:D

heero_yuy 07-02-2018 14:13
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Horse racing, must be the most boring sport after snooker.......
This surely:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1518012693

Or maybe test cricket? :scratch:

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alwaysabear 07-02-2018 14:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35935960)
Good grief MM do you get excited by anything.;)

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No there is also the breeding , the statistical analysis and much more besides alwaysabear plus if you go to the races you can even have a few drinks and a meal if that takes your boat as well.:)
I was refering to TV coverage of racing.

denphone 07-02-2018 15:00
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35935971)
I was refering to TV coverage of racing.
Bring back Big Mac l say and John Francome was pretty good as well.

Sirius 07-02-2018 15:05
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35935559)
Arthur, if you are so much against VM why don't you just toddle off and go to Sky? All you ever do is whinge and moan about VM, it's becoming extremely boring!
:tu:

carravetta 08-02-2018 09:22
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Quote:
With the technical back-end, including customer authentication, under the command of BAMTech, the technology outfit Disney bought from the MLB for $2.5 billion, and a new base for BAMTech Europe in Amsterdam, Disney has a launching pad for the service on this side of the Atlantic. Having already dabbled in EPL broadcasts in 2010, when it picked up the pieces of the failed Setanta operation, ESPN may well be preparing to try again.
http://www.v-net.tv/2018/02/07/why-d...league-rights/

Seems to hint at a ESPN return which I think it more of a possibility for the 2022-25 rights

muppetman11 08-02-2018 09:38
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How would that work if Sky won packages and ESPN won the remainder , if the Disney takeover completed they'd then own all the rights.

carravetta 08-02-2018 10:32
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35936074)
How would that work if Sky won packages and ESPN won the remainder , if the Disney takeover completed they'd then own all the rights.
That in theory would be a loophole into having all the games using 2 seperate brands as rights holders.

virginruinedntl 08-02-2018 14:22
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premier league right bids to be submitted by tomorrow: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42164708

carravetta 08-02-2018 15:21
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by virginruinedntl (Post 35936114)
premier league right bids to be submitted by tomorrow: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42164708
I would be surprised if there was anything bigger than a 10% rise on the current TV deal

denphone 08-02-2018 16:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by virginruinedntl (Post 35936114)
premier league right bids to be submitted by tomorrow: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42164708
Sky and BT are likely to win again when the auction results are revealed next Thursday

virginruinedntl 08-02-2018 17:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35936141)
Sky and BT are likely to win again when the auction results are revealed next Thursday
Indeed, would be nice if facebook or twitter won 1 package though. Watching for free in 720p or 1080p online would be pretty cool. Amazon would probably increase the amazon prime fee or add a separate fee to watch football. Netflix would probably increase the price or add an addon fee for football.

OLD BOY 08-02-2018 17:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35936141)
Sky and BT are likely to win again when the auction results are revealed next Thursday
Well that is the safer bet....this time! But if you're putting money on it, don't take the view that the status quo is a dead cert - it isn't. A surprise could be just around the corner when you least expect it.

I remain of the view that it is the 2022 round of bidding which will see the disruptive bids coming in, though.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by virginruinedntl (Post 35936152)
Indeed, would be nice if facebook or twitter won 1 package though. Watching for free in 720p or 1080p online would be pretty cool. Amazon would probably increase the amazon prime fee or add a separate fee to watch football. Netflix would probably increase the price or add an addon fee for football.
Whichever streaming services won, it would have to charge an additional fee for the football.

heero_yuy 08-02-2018 19:29
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Can you imagine the panic if they'd all got together and decided enough is enough of this insane merry-go-round and all put a bid of £0.01p. :D

alwaysabear 08-02-2018 20:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35936186)
Can you imagine the panic if they'd all got together and decided enough is enough of this insane merry-go-round and all put a bid of £0.01p. :D
We can all dream.:D

denphone 09-02-2018 04:54
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No surprise here as it was as expected..

https://www.theguardian.com/football...-rights-battle

Quote:
Kieran Maguire, a football finance expert at the University of Liverpool, said that he did not believe the tech giants were ready to enter the market.

“That is just the Premier League talking up auction prices,”

OLD BOY 09-02-2018 07:34
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35936222)
No surprise here as it was as expected..

https://www.theguardian.com/football...-rights-battle
I don't disagree with that assessment.

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Confirmation of the winter olympics availability.

http://www.a516digital.com/2018/02/e...ympic-pop.html

I was surprised to read that the olympics have been pulled from Sky Italia with only one day's notice.

denphone 09-02-2018 07:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35936226)
I don't disagree with that assessment.
What you mean we agree with each other for once.:):handshake

1andrew1 09-02-2018 09:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35936226)
I don't disagree with that assessment.
Well done, guys. :) Happy weekend.

OLD BOY 09-02-2018 11:30
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35936228)
What you mean we agree with each other for once.:):handshake
Yes, you did see that blue moon the other day, Den, didn't you? :D

denphone 09-02-2018 16:12
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It appears the Premier League rights auction have gone into another round of bidding with no announcement today.

OLD BOY 09-02-2018 16:50
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35936272)
It appears the Premier League rights auction have gone into another round of bidding with no announcement today.
Well, that’s interesting. This may indicate other interested parties stepping into the fray.

buckeye 09-02-2018 17:20
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
I wouldn't read too much into no news today, The Premier League have consistently said there would be no announcement until next week on how the auction went.

muppetman11 09-02-2018 20:25
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Quote:
Sky Sports has strengthened its position as the home of rugby league, with the return of regular NRL matches for the first time in over a decade.
http://www.skysports.com/rugby-leagu...ar-nrl-matches

denphone 09-02-2018 20:45
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So much for unfounded rumours that Sky was going to cut things and reduce its content.

muppetman11 09-02-2018 20:51
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35936309)
So much for unfounded rumours that Sky was going to cut things and reduce its content.
They will have paid peanuts for that content and it complements their Super League coverage well.

Arthurgray50@blu 09-02-2018 20:58
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Mad Max.

My whole and total whinge about VM. Is that they are always increasing there prices.

Three times last year - and NO increase in NEW channels.

We the customer deserve better.

My wife does have VM, and the basic package. We have Sky as we have it on a cheaper package and get MORE channels that VM have.

VM couldn't beat the Sky deal, my wife tried.

Gavin-D 09-02-2018 21:05
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35936272)
It appears the Premier League rights auction have gone into another round of bidding with no announcement today.
Possibly

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...ved-first-day/

denphone 10-02-2018 04:57
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35936315)
My hunch is despite things said to the contrary l expects the rights auction and what they will generate to go up by at least another 15 to 20% when the results are revealed next week.

OLD BOY 10-02-2018 11:18
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35936309)
So much for unfounded rumours that Sky was going to cut things and reduce its content.
I don't believe Sky were ever going to cut their sports content, but they have indicated that there is a limit to how much more they are prepared to pay to retain the Premiership rights.

denphone 10-02-2018 11:36
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35936356)
I don't believe Sky were ever going to cut their sports content, but they have indicated that there is a limit to how much more they are prepared to pay to retain the Premiership rights.
That has been said at least five times before OB.

virginruinedntl 10-02-2018 12:25
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FreeSports HD aiming to launch in May and will be available on Freesat HD too at the same time: https://twitter.com/FreeSportsUK/sta...43403059814400

denphone 10-02-2018 12:28
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But not on Virgin..

OLD BOY 10-02-2018 12:34
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35936360)
That has been said at least five times before OB.
I know, I was just trying to put some context to your statement, which was not quite right, I believe.

denphone 10-02-2018 21:07
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Premier league auction puts squeeze on football fees.

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BT is attempting to squeeze higher fees from rival Virgin Media for its sport channels against the backdrop of this weekend's multibillion-pound Premier League rights auction.
Quote:
The two telecoms giants are locked in negotiations over wholesale fees for BT Sport, with Virgin Media under pressure to pay more to retain access to all top-flight football.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...football-fees/

Gavin-D 10-02-2018 21:42
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EFL highlights moving from 5 to Quest

EFL to broadcast Saturday night highlights on freeview channel Quest in bid to increase viewers

Highlights have been shown at 9PM on Channel Five for the past three seasons
The highlights show attracts just 500,000 viewers - much lower than expected
EFL have accepted an offer to broadcast highlights on freeview channel Quest
FA chief Greg Clarke is preparing a bid for England to host the 2030 World Cup

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...#ixzz56jQgBjT3

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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35936400)
Premier league auction puts squeeze on football fees.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...football-fees/

Price rise alert :D

Chad 10-02-2018 22:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35936403)
EFL to broadcast Saturday night highlights on freeview channel Quest in bid to increase viewers
If that's their main goal then Quest is an odd choice indeed. Way down the EPG on both SKY and Freeview and doesn't broadcast in HD. My Dad is coming up for 70. If I didn't tell him about this he'd probably have no idea EFL highlights where still available on TV after they drop from Channel 5.

OLD BOY 11-02-2018 00:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35936400)
Premier league auction puts squeeze on football fees.





http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...football-fees/
A key paragraph is:

'A source at one current Premier League broadcaster says his best bet is that Amazon is in "exploration mode" in this year's sale, which covers three seasons beginning in 2019. The blind bidding means that an all-out assault from Amazon cannot be ruled out, however.'

While I believe that a takeover by Amazon in this round is unlikely, it does remain a possibility.

It will be a probability in 2022.

denphone 11-02-2018 05:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35936403)

Price rise alert :D
Sadly Gavin a cast iron certainty.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35936406)
If that's their main goal then Quest is an odd choice indeed. Way down the EPG on both SKY and Freeview and doesn't broadcast in HD. My Dad is coming up for 70. If I didn't tell him about this he'd probably have no idea EFL highlights where still available on TV after they drop from Channel 5.
Yes Chad its certainly a very strange choice as you have put so succinctly.:confused:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35936411)
A key paragraph is:

'A source at one current Premier League broadcaster says his best bet is that Amazon is in "exploration mode" in this year's sale, which covers three seasons beginning in 2019. The blind bidding means that an all-out assault from Amazon cannot be ruled out, however.'

While I believe that a takeover by Amazon in this round is unlikely, it does remain a possibility.

It will be a probability in 2022.
Well that is 4 years away so l am sure one will have a reasonable debate for another 4 years before the next rights auction.:D

telegramsam 11-02-2018 11:50
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Very odd move that,moving football highlights to Quest. Not a channel I've ever watched myself so no idea what channel number is on Sky.

ozsat 11-02-2018 12:34
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It is not uncommon to find live sport on Quest
Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35936431)
Very odd move that,moving football highlights to Quest. Not a channel I've ever watched myself so no idea what channel number is on Sky.

Media Boy UK 11-02-2018 13:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35936431)
Very odd move that,moving football highlights to Quest. Not a channel I've ever watched myself so no idea what channel number is on Sky.

Heres Quest Availability:

Freeview - Channel 37

Satellite:
Freesat - Channel 167
Astra UK - Channel 144


Cable:
Virgin Media UK - Channel 172
Virgin Media Ireland - Channel 154

Also Streaming on TVPlayer and Virgin TV Anywhere.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35936306)
Not the fan of NRL but what will Premier Sports broadcast now?

They did broadcast NRL about every day of the week.

Maybe Premier will move away from the Pay TV Channel and rebrand as Freesport 2 or Freesport Extra.

muppetman11 11-02-2018 13:29
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The problem with Quest is it's also only available in blurry vision SD , as others have said very strange decision.

Not sure how putting the highlights on an obscure channel lower down the EPG is going to help.

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Correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't Quest part of Discovery ?

I've not heard it mentioned but I have a feeling Discovery Communications may have bid this time for some of the Premier League rights. But what do I know.

denphone 11-02-2018 13:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35936440)
[/COLOR]Correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't Quest part of Discovery ?

I've not heard it mentioned but I have a feeling Discovery Communications may have bid this time for some of the Premier League rights. But what do I know.
Thursday we will get the answer as that is when everything will be revealed MM.

Media Boy UK 11-02-2018 13:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35936440)
Correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't Quest part of Discovery ?

I've not heard it mentioned but I have a feeling Discovery Communications may have bid this time for some of the Premier League rights. But what do I know.
Quest is own by Discovery.

For all we known maybe Discovery is set to launch an HD Channel for Quest.

They can axe DMAX or Discovery Shed if they wanted an channel number.

denphone 11-02-2018 13:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35936445)
Quest is own by Discovery.

For all we known maybe Discovery is set to launch an HD Channel for Quest.

They can axe DMAX or Discovery Shed if they wanted an channel number.
Does not John Malone Liberty Global have a stake in Discovery Communications MB ?.

Media Boy UK 11-02-2018 13:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35936446)
Does not John Malone Liberty Global have a stake in Discovery Communications MB ?.
We think 20%.

We feel Discovery will be busy this year with rebranded of channels due to Food Network and Travel Channel joining "by April 2018"*.

Also two 24 hours channels are up for sale soon on Freeview with ITV3 and TBC moving to the D3&4 mux.

Maybe Discovery will buy an slot lift over from ITV3 and TBC moving.

*EU OK it last week.

alwaysabear 11-02-2018 14:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35936447)
We think 20%.

We feel Discovery will be busy this year with rebranded of channels due to Food Network and Travel Channel joining "by April 2018"*.

Also two 24 hours channels are up for sale soon on Freeview with ITV3 and TBC moving to the D3&4 mux.

Maybe Discovery will buy an slot lift over from ITV3 and TBC moving.

*EU OK it last week.
This is Malone's latest position I can find. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/17/libe...ery-stock.html
I think we can safely say he has a major holding in Discovery.

OLD BOY 11-02-2018 18:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35936440)
The problem with Quest is it's also only available in blurry vision SD , as others have said very strange decision.

Not sure how putting the highlights on an obscure channel lower down the EPG is going to help.

---------- Post added at 13:29 ---------- Previous post was at 13:26 ----------

Correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't Quest part of Discovery ?

I've not heard it mentioned but I have a feeling Discovery Communications may have bid this time for some of the Premier League rights. But what do I know.
It's certainly possible, muppetman.

braysoj1 11-02-2018 22:38
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smallclone 12-02-2018 15:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35936437)

Not the fan of NRL but what will Premier Sports broadcast now?

They did broadcast NRL about every day of the week.
.
Pro14 rugby if the rumours are to be believed.

Chad 13-02-2018 12:50
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This article suggests Amazon have made a bid for a small package of Premier League matches to test the water:

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/h...be-generation/

"The latest Premier League TV rights deal is set to be completed this week and industry experts predict there will be very little growth from the £5.1bn last time, if any at all. Apart from Amazon, which has bid for a small package to test the water, the tech giants do not appear interested in taking on Sky and BT Sport."

This article suggests BT where interested in the simulcast packages:

http://www.firstpost.com/sports/prem...d-4342903.html

"BT is understood to be interested in the "simulcast" idea, which is also designed to draw in one or more digital hosts such as Amazon, Facebook, Google or Netflix."

This for me is interesting. Wonder if BT and Amazon may have partnered up for a joint bid on some packages? A bit of content sharing.

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With an announcement on the Premier League rights expected today it's interesting to see both SKY and Amazon's share prices climb this morning whilst BT's has gone in the other direction. Just coincidence I guess.

1andrew1 13-02-2018 13:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35936630)
With an announcement on the Premier League rights expected today it's interesting to see both SKY and Amazon's share prices climb this morning whilst BT's has gone in the other direction. Just coincidence I guess.
I think the regulatory threat to separate Openreach from BT is impacting its share price. Restructuring in the US for Amazojn and more detail on Fox's offer for Sky with regard to Sky News may also impact those two companies. It's hard to say and you could probably argue any small price changes either way quite convincingly. :)

OLD BOY 13-02-2018 13:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35936630)
This article suggests Amazon have made a bid for a small package of Premier League matches to test the water:

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/h...be-generation/

"The latest Premier League TV rights deal is set to be completed this week and industry experts predict there will be very little growth from the £5.1bn last time, if any at all. Apart from Amazon, which has bid for a small package to test the water, the tech giants do not appear interested in taking on Sky and BT Sport."

This article suggests BT where interested in the simulcast packages:

http://www.firstpost.com/sports/prem...d-4342903.html

"BT is understood to be interested in the "simulcast" idea, which is also designed to draw in one or more digital hosts such as Amazon, Facebook, Google or Netflix."

This for me is interesting. Wonder if BT and Amazon may have partnered up for a joint bid on some packages? A bit of content sharing.

---------- Post added at 12:50 ---------- Previous post was at 12:34 ----------

With an announcement on the Premier League rights expected today it's interesting to see both SKY and Amazon's share prices climb this morning whilst BT's has gone in the other direction. Just coincidence I guess.
This is pretty well what was expected, Chad, thank you for this post.

It makes perfect sense for Amazon to test the water like this, ready for the big push in 2022.

If BT or Sky lose out to Amazon in the future, I think a tie-up between Amazon and Sky and/or BT is highly likely.

Gavin-D 13-02-2018 14:46
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35936630)
With an announcement on the Premier League rights expected today it's interesting to see both SKY and Amazon's share prices climb this morning whilst BT's has gone in the other direction. Just coincidence I guess.
Still no announcement of any press conference taking place this afternoon they normally hold them around 5pm

denphone 13-02-2018 14:52
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35936643)
Still no announcement of any press conference taking place this afternoon they normally hold them around 5pm
. Yes previous announcements have usually been around that time.

denphone 13-02-2018 18:33
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Sky Sports to televise more games then ever before in new Premier League rights deal just announced..

http://www.skysports.com/

Quote:
BREAKING: 5 of 7 Premier League live domestic TV packages sold for £4.464bn (4 to Sky, 1 to BT), with two live packages still to be sold “with interest from multiple bidders”. Current deal worth £5.1bn
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/spor...ement-14285991

muppetman11 13-02-2018 18:45
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
So both Sky and BT didn't pay more Den ;)

In fact they paid less ;)

Dave42 13-02-2018 18:45
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35936665)
Sky Sports to televise more games then ever before in new Premier League rights deal just announced..

http://www.skysports.com/



https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/spor...ement-14285991
I am very shocked it cost less but hopefully it mean they don't have to put up prices

denphone 13-02-2018 18:51
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35936666)
So both Sky and BT didn't pay more Den ;)

In fact they paid less ;)
But the whole of the Premier league rights have gone for more then before by quite a bit MM when one adds the other two packages thus that means higher prices.;)

OLD BOY 13-02-2018 18:59
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35936668)
But the whole of the Premier league rights have gone for more then before by quite a bit MM when one adds the other two packages thus that means higher prices.;)
Only if you decide to go for the extra matches being made available, surely? We won't get them for nothing!

denphone 13-02-2018 19:02
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35936673)
Only if you decide to go for the extra matches being made available, surely? We won't get them for nothing!
So higher prices then unless you don't think that will happen OB?.

muppetman11 13-02-2018 19:04
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
It was stated over on DS Forums that under this new deal

Sky will pay £9.3 million a game
BT will pay £9.2 million a game

Sky must be pleased with this considering they have first picks every weekend.

denphone 13-02-2018 19:08
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35936675)
It was stated over on DS Forums that under this new deal

Sky will pay £9.3 million a game
BT will pay £9.2 million a game

Sky must be pleased with this considering they have first picks every weekend.
So Sky really are still kings of the castle despite continuous denials by some who said their time was up..

Dave42 13-02-2018 19:08
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
wonder when other 2 packages will be announced

Gavin-D 13-02-2018 19:09
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Sky gain 2 games to 128 per season

BT lose 10 games down to 32 per season

2 packs remain unsold

OLD BOY 13-02-2018 19:11
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35936677)
So Sky really are still kings of the castle despite continuous denials by some who said their time was up..
Next time, Den, next time!

denphone 13-02-2018 19:12
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35936680)
Sky gain 2 games to 128 per season

BT lose 10 games down to 32 per season

2 packs remain unsold
Multiple bidder's according to rumours.

muppetman11 13-02-2018 19:12
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Must admit I'm not well up on the whole makeup of the packs and who gets what picks but I've seen someone saying BT will get 2nd picks which surely would stop Sky doing it's two big head to head clashes but with the money saved I'm sure they'll be relatively pleased.

denphone 13-02-2018 19:13
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35936681)
Next time, Den, next time!
Well its all about differing opinions OB.:)

OLD BOY 13-02-2018 19:13
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35936674)
So higher prices then unless you don't think that will happen OB?.
Not for Sky Sports or BT Sport, I would have thought. How much will be charged for the remaining matches we will have to wait and see.

denphone 13-02-2018 19:17
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35936686)
Not for Sky Sports or BT Sport, I would have thought. How much will be charged for the remaining matches we will have to wait and see.
So all in all add it together OB and l am no expert on anything as we all know but l would imagine all in all the consumer will be paying higher prices when one adds it all up.

OLD BOY 13-02-2018 19:23
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35936687)
So all in all add it together OB and l am no expert on anything as we all know but l would imagine all in all the consumer will be paying higher prices when one adds it all up.
As I said, if you want to view more matches, yes.

muppetman11 13-02-2018 19:28
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Clearly the remaining two packs aren't an easy sell. I doubt they will go for huge figures.

alwaysabear 13-02-2018 19:34
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35936690)
Clearly the remaining two packs aren't an easy sell. I doubt they will go for huge figures.
It least the price that Sky and BT paid has dropped which a few on here predicted;)

muppetman11 13-02-2018 19:35
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35936691)
It least the price that Sky and BT paid has dropped which a few on here predicted;)
And the person who told us the huge gains would continue ;)

vincerooney 13-02-2018 19:38
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35936690)
Clearly the remaining two packs aren't an easy sell. I doubt they will go for huge figures.
Its very odd isnt it. Are these games going to be thrown on a wednesday or something during non european weeks?

Part of me thinks BT sport will get it so they can do the whole brag of "more premier league football than ever before!!!" even though it'll be the rubbish saturday morning game and a rubbish midweek bournemouth vs stoke or something.

I bet the other midweek pack will go to amazon. premier league will be fearing a further money drop for the next bunch of rights so will probably want a third party involved this time to try and be a "success" with the third party who will then want to bid for more rights next time and hence push the price up.

Premier league probably hate how BT and sky have done a "deal" and will want the third party to be more involved next time to trigger another "war". I bet some figures will be diddled to get Amazon a pack.

More greed and more price for the customers!

denphone 13-02-2018 19:40
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35936692)
And the person who told us the huge gains would continue ;)
l suppose MM being a man of great predictions and wisdom one could call it a score draw.;)

muppetman11 13-02-2018 19:43
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35936694)
l suppose MM being a man of great predictions and wisdom one could call it a score draw.;)
Only kidding Den I get plenty wrong on a regular basis.

alwaysabear 13-02-2018 19:44
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35936694)
l suppose MM being a man of great predictions and wisdom one could call it a score draw.;)
Oh come on Den you were wrong come clean;):)

Dave42 13-02-2018 19:46
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
I was wrong too said it be more

denphone 13-02-2018 19:48
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35936697)
Oh come on Den you were wrong come clean;):)
l am always wrong as you should know that by now.:)

carravetta 13-02-2018 20:07
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
ESPN could be an outsider for the remaining 2 packs as they are set to offer their own steaming service.

Safe bet would be 1 each to Sky and BT

Chad 13-02-2018 21:12
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
So the packs remaining:

Package F – NOT YET ASSIGNED

Total matches: 20 Matches per club: Max two; Min two

Kick-off times: All 20 matches from one Bank Holiday and one midweek fixture programme

Package G – NOT YET ASSIGNED

Total matches: 20 Matches per club: Max two; Min two

Kick-off times: All 20 matches from two midweek fixture programmes

Does that mean however wins say one of these packages have to simulcast all games on that day? For example all 10 games from a bank holiday at the same time? 10 games simulcast from a Wednesday? If so it's no surprise a buyer hasn't been secured yet.

Chad 14-02-2018 08:48
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
The Telegraph are reporting nobody bid the reserve price for the 2 unsold packages of games. It's also suggested the packages where designed to entice interest from streaming services.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...pay-less-live/

The sale resumes on Thursday.

OLD BOY 14-02-2018 09:12
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35936738)
The Telegraph are reporting nobody bid the reserve price for the 2 unsold packages of games. It's also suggested the packages where designed to entice interest from streaming services.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...pay-less-live/

The sale resumes on Thursday.
Interesting that Discovery and Disney are not mentioned in this report.

muppetman11 14-02-2018 09:19
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
The streaming services want Sports rights but don't want to be breaking the bank to acquire them especially when they are only available on a country by country basis.

OLD BOY 14-02-2018 09:26
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35936747)
The streaming services want Sports rights but don't want to be breaking the bank to acquire them especially when they are only available on a country by country basis.
I know. It will be interesting to see if the whole structure of the bidding arrangements is changed next time to recognise that, given that they appear to want the streaming services on board.

Perhaps the lack of bids from these companies this time was a deliberate strategy by them to force the Premier League to revisit these arrangements.

With the BBC acknowledging that existing broadcast channels will no longer exist in favour of internet only content within the next couple of decades (see linear thread), I can see why the EPL would want to attract the likes of Amazon, Netflix, Disney, Google, Twitter etc at this stage.

denphone 14-02-2018 09:32
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35936747)
The streaming services want Sports rights but don't want to be breaking the bank to acquire them especially when they are only available on a country by country basis.
l expect Sky and BT to share out the other 2 packages then..

OLD BOY 14-02-2018 09:37
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35936750)
l expect Sky and BT to share out the other 2 packages then..
A distinct possibility, Den. Sky can only bid for one of them - do you think it will be the Bank Holiday package?


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