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bluecar1 14-07-2008 21:04

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
that is a misleading quote as the 41 billion dollars is the global spend on internet advertising, not OIX total revenue that the ISP's would share

peter

Tarquin L-Smythe 14-07-2008 21:07

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34599703)
Thread reopned.

Am I right in believing that you intend to close this Phorm thread midweek?

Bob aka TGLS

Sirius 14-07-2008 21:16

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarquin L-Smythe (Post 34599854)
Am I right in believing that you intend to close this Phorm thread midweek?

Bob aka TGLS

:shocked:

Hank 14-07-2008 21:19

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluecar1 (Post 34599847)
that is a misleading quote as the 41 billion dollars is the global spend on internet advertising, not OIX total revenue that the ISP's would share

peter

Good point... (And on topic which is good!) Anyone know what OIX's share of the market actually is...? What number should they be quoting as "the pie that ISPs can get a slice of"?

AlexanderHanff 14-07-2008 21:19

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Just to remind everyone, I will be taking part in Steve Gibson's Security Now! podcast tomorrow evening (7pm our time). I have just had a test call with Steve using Skype and it went very well, he was suprised at the quality of the audio and bandwidth despite our geographical distance from each other.

You can all watch the podcast on http://twitlive.tv as it is being recorded and there is even a chat application embedded into the web page so you can engage the presenters as the show is being recorded.

Hope to see many of you in there.

I will be doing an article on Thursday covering the Security Now! Podcasts and hosting them directly on the NoDPI web site as the set of 3 podcasts.

Incidentally, Security Now! has 110 000 active listeners, so this is a good opportunity to increase public awareness.

Alexander Hanff

Dephormation 14-07-2008 21:22

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 34599871)
Good point... (And on topic which is good!) Anyone know what OIX's share of the market actually is...? What number should they be quoting as "the pie that ISPs can get a slice of"?

Kerching kerching kerching ----> Computer says; nil.

OIX hasn't launched yet, because they've got no ISPs operational (thank God).

Quoting the global figure in dollars sounds like big money. If you quote the global spend in rupees, its even better. Around 1.7 TRILLION RUPEES.

But OIX is still, currently, worthless even in rupees.

:)

JohnHorb 14-07-2008 21:37

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 34599865)
:shocked:

Thread continued here:-


https://nodpi.org/forum/on-topic/con...-thread/page-1




[Moderator Edit (Rob M): Link fixed]

tarka 14-07-2008 21:42

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
You beat me to it :)

Even if they say they have people signed up to OIX, without delivering adverts there is zero revenue.

Hank 14-07-2008 21:50

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tarka (Post 34599906)
You beat me to it :)

Even if they say they have people signed up to OIX, without delivering adverts there is zero revenue.


Well I suppose we ought not be surprised, I mean...

http://www.phorm.com/about/introducing/OIX.html

If you click on the "Skip Animation" guess what happens... You get more animation LOL. Like adverts, just annoying!

Hank

Sirius 14-07-2008 21:55

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnHorb (Post 34599903)
Thread continued here:-


https://nodpi.org/forum/on-topic/con...-thread/page-1




[Moderator Edit (Rob M): Link fixed]



Just registered :tu:

---------- Post added at 20:55 ---------- Previous post was at 20:52 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 34599915)
Well I suppose we ought not be surprised, I mean...

http://www.phorm.com/about/introducing/OIX.html

If you click on the "Skip Animation" guess what happens... You get more animation LOL. Like adverts, just annoying!

Hank

You have a pm.

JackSon 14-07-2008 22:10

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Has there been a complete list of speakers drawn up for Wednesday's demonstration? I know some names have been mentioned but I wonder if there is a programme, running order type thing compiled?

AlexanderHanff 14-07-2008 22:38

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Currently there are 3 verified speakers and speeches will take place between 12-2pm with Baroness Miller scheduled to speak at 1:15pm.

I haven't scheduled time slots for the other 2 yet as there is the possibility another Peer will be joining us and I need to make sure I can accomodate their schedule if they can make it.

If any of you guys would like to speak you are of course welcome just drop me a PM and we will get it organised, this is afterall a public protest it is only fair the public be given the opportunity to "have their say" but I have promised the local residents that speeches will only be 12-2pm so whereas it is a reasonable window it is limited to 2 hours.

Alexander Hanff

bluecar1 14-07-2008 23:14

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tarka (Post 34599906)
You beat me to it :)

Even if they say they have people signed up to OIX, without delivering adverts there is zero revenue.

one thing i am not sure of is if someone like the FT is signed up for phorm / OIX, they have a default advert as a placeholder waiting to be replaced by a relevant advert (if / when BT WebWise comes live), do phorm get any income from this advert or do they only get income when this default advert is replaced with a more relevant one

if so what is the mechanism for choosing this default advert, is it set by the site owner directly or is it just a random one from any advertiser who has placed an advert via OIX

i would also assume this advert is at a flat rate and not the premium as no auction has taken place for the targeted space and audience so minimal income at this point for both site owner and phorm and no income for the ISP

peter

Wildie 14-07-2008 23:48

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
There was somat about the isp getting 85m over 4 years, peanuts when they got to house the gear and power it and cool it and what not, and that was when it was opt out. it`s buried in this thread way back.

bluecar1 15-07-2008 00:07

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildie (Post 34600008)
There was somat about the isp getting 85m over 4 years, peanuts when they got to house the gear and power it and cool it and what not, and that was when it was opt out. it`s buried in this thread way back.

thats the revenue for premium targeted adverts, not the prabably lower income from the default adverts

even 10% of that 8.5million more than covers hosting / power costs just

it then depends on cost of maintenance by phorm as to whether it is economically viable


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