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Hugh 31-01-2022 18:33
Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36111801)
It is not criminal. If a person was caught breaching the Covid rules, they were issued with a Fixed Penalty Notice, that once paid, the recipient waived any criminal liability and no criminal record.

The problem now for the Police, is that there is a statute of limitations of 6 months on such breaches. So if they see any breaches now that happened over 6 months ago, the police have no legal authority to sanction as per the Coronavirus Act.
Not for COVID breaches, I believe.

https://www.libertyhumanrights.org.u...%20regulations.
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IS THERE A TIME LIMIT WITHIN WHICH THE POLICE MUST ISSUE THE FIXED PENALTY NOTICE?

There is no time limit for issuing a fixed penalty notice for breach of the coronavirus regulations. However, there is a time limit for bringing criminal charges if you refuse to pay the fine.

If you do not pay the fine, you may be charged with a criminal offence of breaching the coronavirus regulations. The coronavirus regulations were made under the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984 which says that if the police or the CPS are going to charge you with an offence, they must do it within:

Three years from the date the offence was committed, and

Six months from the date the prosecutor believes they have enough evidence to charge you.

Put simply, if you failed to pay a fixed penalty notice within 28 days, the police or CPS would then have 6 months in which to charge you with a breach of the coronavirus regulations.

papa smurf 01-02-2022 15:08
Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
The Metropolitan Police has said that it will not name any individuals but will just reveal the total number of fines issued.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...val-court.html

Number 10 said it would be a matter for Scotland Yard to decide whether to name any individuals who are hit with fixed penalty notices in the Partygate investigation – but police guidelines state they would not routinely be identified.

Sephiroth 01-02-2022 15:58
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What- as in Boris/Carrie not being named? Cover-up or what? Be interesting to watch the relevant PMQ after a leak has occurred.

papa smurf 01-02-2022 16:15
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36111891)

What- as in Boris/Carrie not being named? Cover-up or what? Be interesting to watch the relevant PMQ after a leak has occurred.
It's the way trivial matters of minor law breaking are dealt with.

Hugh 01-02-2022 16:28
Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36111893)
It's the way trivial matters of minor law breaking are dealt with.
Strange - you previously posted that this sort of offence was a resigning/stepping down matter…

1andrew1 01-02-2022 16:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36111884)
The Metropolitan Police has said that it will not name any individuals but will just reveal the total number of fines issued.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...val-court.html

Number 10 said it would be a matter for Scotland Yard to decide whether to name any individuals who are hit with fixed penalty notices in the Partygate investigation – but police guidelines state they would not routinely be identified.
I'm sure that will be fine by Johnson. :D

Chris 01-02-2022 16:36
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36111894)
Strange - you previously posted that this sort of offence was a resigning/stepping down matter…
It’s both really. Anything that can be dealt with via a FPN is trivial in the grand scheme of criminality. Yet at the same time what it represents when it’s done by the leaders who set the rules at a time of national crisis, is politically far more significant. Nonetheless it’s not up to the polis to release information based on perceived political significance. The usual anonymous sources will take care of that.

papa smurf 01-02-2022 16:46
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36111897)
It’s both really. Anything that can be dealt with via a FPN is trivial in the grand scheme of criminality. Yet at the same time what it represents when it’s done by the leaders who set the rules at a time of national crisis, is politically far more significant. Nonetheless it’s not up to the polis to release information based on perceived political significance. The usual anonymous sources will take care of that.
If you walk out of the front door of the court it's trivia, if you leave by the back door it's a miscarriage of justice;)

1andrew1 01-02-2022 17:10
Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Another day, another u-turn.
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The public would "hypothetically" be told if the prime minister was fined for breaking COVID rules, Downing Street has said - after earlier refusing to guarantee that would happen.
https://news.sky.com/story/downing-s...ation-12530285

1andrew1 01-02-2022 22:18
Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Johnson's attendance at two more parties leaked.

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Downing Street has refused to comment on reports that reveal details of lockdown parties Boris Johnson is alleged to have attended.

In new allegations this evening, two newspapers detail claims he attended a party in his flat and also went to a leaving do for two colleagues.
https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...rties-12530611

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...nuary-lockdown

Damien 01-02-2022 22:48
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The one in the flat is another he has specifically denied right?

1andrew1 01-02-2022 22:58
Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36111970)
The one in the flat is another he has specifically denied right?
I think the denial in question may have been vague enough to get him off the hook for lying.

1andrew1 02-02-2022 09:42
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Tory MP Tobias Ellwood reveals he will be submitting letter of no confidence in PM today

The senior Tory, who is chair of the Defence Select Committee, revealed in an interview with Kay Burley that he would be making the move.

He said it is "time to resolve this" as the Conservative Party is "slipping into a very ugly place".

It comes as the prime minister faces continued pressure over the partygate revelations, with the Metropolitan Police investigating 12 gatherings during COVID-19 restrictions for potential breaches of regulations.

Mr Ellwood's comments come after another Conservative MP, Peter Aldous, said on Tuesday that he would be submitting a letter to Sir Graham Brady, chairman of the 1922 Committee.

Explaining why he is also putting a letter in to Sir Graham, Mr Ellwood said it is "just horrible" for Tory MPs to "continuously have to defend this to the British public".
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cid=entnewsntp

Carth 02-02-2022 10:10
Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Taken from the Wiki page of a certain Tory MP Tobias Ellwood.


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In December 2020, during the COVID-19 pandemic, Ellwood urged the government not to relax the rules governing social mixing over the Christmas period, then attended a Christmas party at the Cavalry and Guards Club in London with 26 other people.[28] He was criticised for his decision to attend by Home Secretary Priti Patel, who said, "Having dinner... outside of the rules with a large number of people is a breach of the regulations.

Obviously part of the problems he's trying to eradicate . . . should resign immediately :D

heero_yuy 02-02-2022 10:36
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Taken from the Wiki page of a certain Tory MP Tobias Ellwood.

Obviously part of the problems he's trying to eradicate . . . should resign immediately :D
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...8&d=1643798116

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