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Gavin78 10-04-2017 00:46

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35893928)
If you think the US, China, North Korea and Russia are all going to war, you're insane. That comment is up there with the most absurd things you consistently come out with. You also appear to have made the assumption that North Korea and China are somewhat strong allies still, they're not. If North Korea ends up in War, it'll be against China long before the US and that's just for tactical reasons.

Thats true, China might standby NK but if it came to war I don't think China would risk it with America over NK if anything it might make US and China ties some what weaker.

As for Russia and America the only war I see is Russia stepping up the cat and mouse game it's been doing for sometime, taking planes into or as close as the borders to whatever countries it wants to torment maybe enough to **** Trump off that he will make the first move against Russia

pip08456 10-04-2017 00:55

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I thought Trump was suposed to be in Russia's pocket?

Perhaps I misunderstood the theme running through this thread?

Mick 10-04-2017 01:13

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35893925)
IF DT didn't get congress approval for the bombing, then surely he has broken the golden rule.

Yes, what he did was right. BUT, this will provoke an evil war with Russia, China and North Korea.
And DT will want to do it his way.

Even though you are a President, you still have to abide by certain rules.

Arthur, if you read this post look up War Powers Resolution Act. A sitting President does not need congressional approval unless he wanted to undertake a longer term solution.

TheDaddy 10-04-2017 04:14

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35893928)
If you think the US, China, North Korea and Russia are all going to war, you're insane. That comment is up there with the most absurd things you consistently come out with. You also appear to have made the assumption that North Korea and China are somewhat strong allies still, they're not. If North Korea ends up in War, it'll be against China long before the US and that's just for tactical reasons.

China will prop up and support North Korea as long as their useful but they'll drop them as soon as they become more trouble than they're worth just like they did with pol pot in Cambodia when they let the Vietnamese topple him

passingbat 10-04-2017 07:14

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35893933)
I thought Trump was suposed to be in Russia's pocket?


Only if you believe the BBC and CNN etc. agenda.

ianch99 10-04-2017 08:11

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I wonder whether there is an element of trying to deflect attention from the ongoing investigation of Trump & Co's Russian links during the election campaign.

papa smurf 10-04-2017 09:08

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any one got any spare tin foil

lexio 10-04-2017 09:15

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35893933)
I thought Trump was suposed to be in Russia's pocket?

Perhaps I misunderstood the theme running through this thread?

I kind thought the same too...it might actually be a misconception. I guess we will have to wait and see.

heero_yuy 10-04-2017 09:23

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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...9&d=1438252344

Damien 10-04-2017 09:25

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Russia clearly thought before the election that Clinton would intervene in Syria and Trump would not. Remember that was one of the bigger differences between them on the campaign trial with Trump and his supporters arguing against antagonizing Russia. Maybe they calculated wrong or maybe this was a one-off.

Russia are certainly completely overreacting to a missile strike on a military base. They're talking about responding with force next time America does this! Literally threatening a war with the United States.

I think Jonhson might be onto something with increasing sanctions against Russia: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...utin-7kcpstplc

Osem 10-04-2017 10:01

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35893954)
Russia clearly thought before the election that Clinton would intervene in Syria and Trump would not. Remember that was one of the bigger differences between them on the campaign trial with Trump and his supporters arguing against antagonizing Russia. Maybe they calculated wrong or maybe this was a one-off.

Russia are certainly completely overreacting to a missile strike on a military base. They're talking about responding with force next time America does this! Literally threatening a war with the United States.

I think Jonhson might be onto something with increasing sanctions against Russia: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...utin-7kcpstplc

Putin's starting to sound like the EU's Brexit negotiating team... :D

1andrew1 10-04-2017 10:09

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35893933)
I thought Trump was supposed to be in Russia's pocket?

Perhaps I misunderstood the theme running through this thread?

Was being the operative word.
Trump is now taking a more conventional approach to that relationship now he's looking at the evidence placed in front of him by US intelligence as oppose to the narrative served up by Fox News and Breitbart.

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35893957)
Putin's starting to sound like the EU's Brexit negotiating team... :D

I guess a free trade deal with Russia is now out of the question!

papa smurf 10-04-2017 10:19

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35893958)
Was being the operative word.
Trump is now taking a more conventional approach to that relationship now he's looking at the evidence placed in front of him by US intelligence as oppose to the narrative served up by Fox News and Breitbart.

---------- Post added at 10:09 ---------- Previous post was at 10:03 ----------

I guess a free trade deal with Russia is now out of the question!

do you know any one with a Russian car/tv/phone i must admit i own a Russian stove but i can't think of anything else Russian i would buy due to total lack of quality .

Julian 10-04-2017 10:52

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35893961)
do you know any one with a Russian car/tv/phone i must admit i own a Russian stove but i can't think of anything else Russian i would buy due to total lack of quality .

Vodka? :)

Uncle Peter 10-04-2017 11:17

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35893961)
do you know any one with a Russian car/tv/phone i must admit i own a Russian stove but i can't think of anything else Russian i would buy due to total lack of quality .

Yes, a while ago my nephew bought a Yotaphone: Android smartphone on the front and an e-reader on the back. Cool idea and it's actually a decent phone.

One thing Russia is trying to do is get it's aviation industry to kick-on, primarily to reduce their reliance on Airbus and Boeing to service their domestic airlines.

They're now exporting some Sukhoi Superjets (similar to the A31xx/A32xx family) but that's more of a testing-the-waters exercise than anything. Their aviation industry is in such a state that it'll be decades before they can produce enough aircraft to even come close to being a viable competitor to the big boys.


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