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dirtydog 10-03-2005 14:38

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Ignition, please tell me whether the 30GB limit includes upload bandwidth, or is it just downloads?

Ignition 10-03-2005 14:39

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Originally Posted by jtwn
Ignition, question, does ntl have the capability to monitor usage throughout the network as of now?

Of course. Always have.

(Waits for all those people who thought NTL were incompetent and ruthless and just didn't realise how much they used to actually understand now that they are left alone because the company chooses to leave them alone).

jtwn 10-03-2005 14:43

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Thanks.

But how much less does it cost ntl per gb than the £1.50 plusnet apparently says BT wholesale charge?

purenuman 10-03-2005 14:44

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Originally Posted by Ignition
(Waits for all those people who thought NTL were incompetent and ruthless and just didn't realise how much they used to actually understand now that they are left alone because the company chooses to leave them alone).

They are all far tooooo busy thinking (or not) up the next gripe :D

dr wadd 10-03-2005 14:45

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Originally Posted by ian@huth
I refer you to Ignitions post #1141 above. :)

Thanks, didn`t see that one. I did mention the source of the information, hence my need to question it ;)

Ignition 10-03-2005 14:47

Re: *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion Here Please.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jtwn
Thanks.

But how much less does it cost ntl per gb than the £1.50 plusnet apparently says BT wholesale charge?

Cost varies depending on the area. Some areas which are harder to upgrade than others naturally bandwidth would be more expensive.

If there's pre-existing fibre there and all that's needed to resegment is a new card in a uBR then wouldn't be too bad. If to facilitate the upgrade several thousand feet of new fibre would need to be laid obviously it increases the cost per GB a fair bit.

If usage is relatively light in an area so more customers are happily co-existing on kit that makes bandwidth cheaper, if it's an area full of monster users more upgrades and in turn higher cost per GB.

Obviously we can't charge each area differently, that'd be an absolute PITA.

dirtydog 10-03-2005 14:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtydog
Ignition, please tell me whether the 30GB limit includes upload bandwidth, or is it just downloads?

Who said that :o

Why is it hard to get a straight answer to a straight question? :)

Ignition 10-03-2005 14:54

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Originally Posted by dirtydog
Who said that :o

Why is it hard to get a straight answer to a straight question? :)

It is when I don't know the answer!

EDIT: Even harder to answer when I'm also checking how my 'Linux ISO' downloads are doing.

dirtydog 10-03-2005 14:58

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Originally Posted by Ignition
It is when I don't know the answer!

Fair enough :) Would you be able to find out? I would e-mail or ring ntl myself but I suspect any answer I get wouldn't necessarily be definitive.
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btw I never said I do (or don't) download or upload Linux distros.. I was just pointing out that it is a common reason for using p2p which is legal and uses a lot of bandwidth.

Jimmytheone 10-03-2005 14:59

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Sorry if I have missed this bit of info (I did have a look) or if this a dumb question but are the limits in Gigabits or Gigabytes :dunce: ? I assume that it is Gigabytes otherwise the limit is so low that I shall have to stick with the 300 kbit service.


Jimmy

Paul 10-03-2005 15:01

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Originally Posted by Jimmytheone
Sorry if I have missed this bit of info (I did have a look) or if this a dumb question but are the limits in Gigabits or Gigabytes :dunce: ? I assume that it is Gigabytes otherwise the limit is so low that I shall have to stick with the 300 kbit service.

GigaBytes. :)

Ignition 10-03-2005 15:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtydog
Fair enough :) Would you be able to find out? I would e-mail or ring ntl myself but I suspect any answer I get wouldn't necessarily be definitive.
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btw I never said I do (or don't) download or upload Linux distros.. I was just pointing out that it is a common reason for using p2p which is legal and uses a lot of bandwidth.

Will make enquiries.
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Agreed, however I generally can't be bothered with that stuff. At the moment I'm downloading an ISO of a copyrighted game, Spellforce Order Of Dawn as a matter of fact. Then when that's done the two expansion packs are queued in my news reader awaiting my bandwidth.

I'm a very bad boy :batty:

Neil 10-03-2005 15:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignition
At the moment I'm downloading an ISO of a copyrighted game, Spellforce Order Of Dawn as a matter of fact. Then when that's done the two expansion packs are queued in my news reader awaiting my bandwidth.

I'm a very bad boy :batty:

Respect for the honesty. :tu:

Rone 10-03-2005 15:09

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Originally Posted by Ignition
Will make enquiries.
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Agreed, however I generally can't be bothered with that stuff. At the moment I'm downloading an ISO of a copyrighted game, Spellforce Order Of Dawn as a matter of fact. Then when that's done the two expansion packs are queued in my news reader awaiting my bandwidth.

I'm a very bad boy :batty:

As long as its not on the NTL network of ocourse. :p:

jtwn 10-03-2005 15:09

Re: *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion Here Please.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignition
Cost varies depending on the area. Some areas which are harder to upgrade than others naturally bandwidth would be more expensive.

If there's pre-existing fibre there and all that's needed to resegment is a new card in a uBR then wouldn't be too bad. If to facilitate the upgrade several thousand feet of new fibre would need to be laid obviously it increases the cost per GB a fair bit.

If usage is relatively light in an area so more customers are happily co-existing on kit that makes bandwidth cheaper, if it's an area full of monster users more upgrades and in turn higher cost per GB.

Obviously we can't charge each area differently, that'd be an absolute PITA.

OK, taken that into consideration, but there is no average cost you know of?


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