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*in VMS office CEO "Oh look we're getting some more football let's raise prices by around £5p/m" :D :p:

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Raising prices by around £5p/m would be pretty unwise for any TV platform to do in the current climate as many have not got the disposable income which they once had a few months ago.

Unlikely to happen IMHO.

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I’m quite sure he was joking. :)

They’ll probably be the tenth picks on any given weekend.

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The :D:p: should of been a hint mate lol.

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l know he was joking..:p:

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:D:D
I was pleasantly surprised to see my Virgin mobile's annual inflation-linked rise is not happening this year, due to the pandemic.

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Don't worry you will get double the rise next year.;)

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Oh they're planning a special one for you of around £200p/m extra, says on ceos memo "don't forget to up 1Andrew1's prices by £200p/m" :p:

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Little Britain has been removed from all UK streaming platforms due to concerns about the use of blackface by its two stars, David Walliams and Matt Lucas.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...tbox-blackface

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The world has gone fecking mad!!

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Fawlty Towers 'Don't mention the war' episode removed from UKTV.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...box=1591904236

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Political correctness has gone absolutely nuts! We have a country full of easily offended snowflakes...:rolleyes:

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One thinks these networks removing content in this manner need to be careful as people will just say screw it i'll buy boxsets and not bother with streaming/subscription services.

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yeah i agree, those up in arms about a TV channel removing an episode is pretty crazy.

you can go buy it without any issues, lets keep the drama down a bit eh

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Especially since it was changed in 2013 with John Cleese’s agreement, and that version is what UKTV and Netflix will be showing in the future...

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all this online rage over something they havent understood? oh my.

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According to the Guardian,

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i dont think it is its a country of snowflakes its the people in power. i cant see a single person on social media wanting to it taken down. so why are those in power and control making these rash decisions and then keeping quiet as others call others "leftie luvvies" or "right wing hardliners" or "snowflakes" its all bizarre.

But on more relevant topics. why are some things on all4 web only. i tried to view darkside of the ring but you can only view it online which is a bit odd we havent got the same functionality as the web app

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Are you talking about in the V6?

All4 on Virgin Media is currently a mix of shows on Virgin Media servers which you can bookmark, and shows in the app which you can't until the app gets the V6 integration mentioned in the press release.

But bookmarks aren't downloads, and none of the smart TV apps from any streaming service allows for any form of offline viewing.

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Those in power don’t want it removed but know they can deflect from genuine issues by making the news story about this.

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I'm not sure why Netflix and UKTV were still offering the unedited version, though. Possibly more cock-up than conspiracy.

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Ah that makes sense. Do we have a timescale on integration?

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BT Sport is now available on Now TV devices.
On the stick the picture is comparable to the 50FPS 1080P pic they serve up on my Chromecast Ultra,
I do not know if the 4K box will serve up BT Sport Ultimate in 4K/HDR as the Ultra does.

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There is 4K football tonight and HDR football for the first game on Saturday.

Would be interested to know the results of the format.



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This site says: Only supports up to 720p live television

https://www.expertreviews.co.uk/sky/now-tv-smart-box

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If you look carefully, you'll see that they actually updated the article to say that it now supports Full HD.

The new BT Sport app has a settings page to setup HDR too.

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Press release about the launch of the BT Sport app on NOW TV devices:

https://newsroom.bt.com/more-ways-to...ow-tv-devices/

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I know this isn’t an issue for most people reading this, but as a device can’t buffer a live stream, for 4K HDR live football to look any good you have to have a very fast internet connection that isn’t susceptible to speed wobbles at all. We have very humble 4mbps rural ADSL which is absolutely fine for streaming anything we like off Netflix, Disney or Prime, but when I tried to watch the champions league final on BT last summer it was horrific, blocky and pixelated whenever the camera panned at any speed at all.

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I've been trying out the new All4 app available on the V6 and subscribed to the 14-day free trial to be able to view without the ads. It's very simple to access and there is a lot of interesting material, especially the European 'Walter Presents' programmes. Sadly, the picture quality is poor and the shows are only in SD - at least the one or two I've watched so far. Nothing in the Settings, Categories or FAQs to suggest there are some shows in HD unlike Netflix, Amazon Prime and iPlayer. Pity.

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I think it adapts the picture quality according to available internet speeds like iPlayer does. Maybe your internet was slow, or it was doing a poor job of adapting. I've only watched one show on it so fa, and that was 2D animated, so I'm no best placed to judge, thought it looked sharp to me.

I didn't know you could do the ad-free service on the VM version of the app.

I've been meaning to watch more Walter Presents stuff as I was only watching it on a small screen before.

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The ad-free thing works a treat. My internet connection is 350 Mbps so no problem there. If it is adaptive to speed then there is something amiss.

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I'm not seeing any any improvement on the V6 All4 app after a few minutes

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I've not really used the All4 app to watch much, but it seems better at playback than the My5 one. Every time you hit an ad break the My5 picture quality drops down to Smudge-O-Vision (tm) and takes about a minute to get back to top quality.

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Do you not record programmes rather than pay for VOD on the players?

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They mentioned Walter Presents, and there's 74 shows there, and multiple series of some of them. Usually only 1 regular WP series is on weekly, usually More4 9pm on Friday. They show episode 1 of many new series on Channel 4 as a taster but the remainder of the series is streaming only.

My point being that out of the 74 shows only 1 will be recordable in its entirety.

And if you want World Drama the ad-free option may be very appealing, as there's a lot of binging there to be done.

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Smudge-O-Vision! Ha, ha. That's exactly what I am experiencing on the All4 app. It is like that when a programme begins and at times during the show (I hadn't connected it with ad breaks, or where the ad breaks would be, but that just might be the case). The rest of the time it reverts to something like SD quality. I have raised the problem with All4 customer services and am awaiting their reply.

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Catch Up TV on ITV, C4 and C5 are in HD via Virgin Catch Up, not their own apps.

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Ah, OK, yes of course, I was forgetting that!

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I emailed channel 4 about tons of stuff on all4 missing. they said "it'll be added soon". well no it wont its not the catch up stuff missing its the on demand stuff. ridiculous

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How does it not being catch-up content mean it won't? The on-demand offering on any service will evolve over time.

Agreed. It is strange it's not all there given its internet-based now, but some have suggested it's a rights-related problem and varies platform by platform and may change as contracts for content are renewed. E.g. another company may have primary rights on a certain platform so they have to exclude it even though that can include it on other devices.

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Aye i know i think it was a generic response to be honest

"We are sorry to read that you have been unable to view these programmes on our new All 4 app for Virgin Tivo. We can advise that these programmes will be added as the days and weeks go on. As we are sure you can imagine, All 4 has such a large catalogue of programming adding all of this to the new app may take a little time. We hope to have this content added soon.
Thank you for your comments. We at Channel 4 are always looking to improve our service and your feedback is greatly appreciated. Your comments have been logged and will be passed on to the All 4 team.
If you require further information, feel free to email me back or visit www.channel4.com/4viewers/faqs"

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Ta. Vince. :-)

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What sort of programme is missing from the Virgin All4 app?

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Interesting snippet from the OFCOM online nation report.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/asse...020-report.pdf

This is the kind of thing you are dealing with when you try to reduce something to zero by shifting personal preferences alone.

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I agree.

I imagine the majority of these will be pensioners on limited income,broadband is not cheap so why have it if you have little interest.

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I have now received a reply about the poor picture quality on the All4 app. It's disappointing as there is a lot of good content that appeals to me especially the 'Walter Present' European series.

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Not sure if it has been mentioned - my Netflix is back up for 15.25mpbs for 4K material.

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Did see that YouTube on my iPad seemed to be a lot sharper recently so I guess all the restrictions have been lifted for streaming quality.

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scrubs, dark side of the ring, a few other boxsets. just says "Not available" and to

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Thanks. Shows that it is a cut down version of the full app then - interesting that they should include the name of some of the missing shows and try to redirect viewers away from Virgin Media!

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I think you will find that the full version will arrive on our screens a little later this year. Don't forget the Pluto and MTV apps have not arrived yet either.

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So have been watching Plebs with my son who thinks it’s hilarious until we got to episode 7 Series 3 last night only to find my purchase of series 3 had been written off by Amazon Prime. Only option available was to purchase it again. So I entered chat ....... 40 minutes later they finally believed me even though it’s in my purchase history. I had to repurchase the series and will be refunded. The joys of not really owning anything physical.

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Don't expect Sky TV over fibre anytime soon and more apps coming to Sky Q.

https://www.pocket-lint.com/tv/news/...x-for-uk-sky-q

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Sky and Sony agree multi year extension

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2020...ear-extension/

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Got Amazon Profiles today which is a good but overdue move. I'm sure my step-daughter will appreciate not having my viewing affecting her recommendations :)

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Wonder what the issue is with Sky Q?

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Maybe they feel the next step is away from the set top box I dont honestly know.

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I suspect the fibre version of Q is probably not where they want it in order to launch a ‘full fat’ service. The Italian version of the Sky Q Fibre seems a little underpowered - no 4K, no multiroom capability and a maximum of 3 recordings... would they want to launch another low powered strand just as they got rid of the lower tiered Q box?

Looking at the Pocket Lint article, it seems to me that they’re quite happy for satellite to carry the linear load (and handle the free channels) rather than having to build in a tuner and/or negotiate a lot of carriage rights for the all the freeview channels - and by doing that it looks like they can use IP for more apps and even linear channels which makes me think they could leverage tech from Peacock and Xumo - my guess is that IP would be perfect for linear experiences that are much more curated (much like Pluto TV) or even generated by algorithm/AI.

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Don't forget that Sky have Now TV, and that probably accounts for most people who would want Sky via the internet - about 1.6 million subscribers last year per Ofcom. (Virgin Media has about 3.6m on its cable TV).

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Very true - they have a decent install base for their current broadband product and if they wanted to create a much bigger pay tv package over broadband, they could just leverage the service they have in place already and bulk that up.

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Now TV increasing prices

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...rice-hike.html

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Had a feeling this would happen with the addition of the new channels.

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Another one getting more and more expensive.

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It's only £8 away for what i pay for SKY Signature with HD (£17p/) ok it's an offer but they give this offer a lot.

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Amazon launches ‘free’ live TV package in Germany.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2020...eid=3598503789

Perhaps this might happen over here in time.

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but, but, but...

I thought linear TV was on the way out - I wonder why one of the the biggest forces in Streaming has done this?

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It is on its way out by 2025 or is it 2035 according to some though Hugh.;)

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What do Amazon know about business? Will never catch on! :D

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https://www.theverge.com/21320100/pe...es-sports-news

Katz said what they really noticed is people liked just having something playing when they opened Peacock, akin to standard cable TV.

What? These fiends using Peacock like the experience of something playing when they log in rather than yet another playlist or virtual shelf? Sacré bleu!

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Pluto TV auto-plays a "channel" when you load it up. No idea how it decides which one, probably random.

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I’m in shock. I need to go and lie down.

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:D:D

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It's not free though, is it, you need to buy their prime subscription first.

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What they said was 'no extra charge'. It's a free add-on if you already get Prime.

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With all these goodies how long before the cost of prime rises?

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Not long l suspect as every other streamer is putting their prices up this year..

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They are extremely efficient at signing you up to Prime when you buy anything off Amazon - even when you have chosen no to Prime.

I have now resolved to never buy anything off Amazon as it is too much hassle to cancel unwanted Prime.

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Interesting Netflix had 10m new subscribers this year so far - they seem to think that some of these have joined early because of Covid.

I suspect many will cancel when they are back working!

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Anyone have AppleTV? Got a free trial but looks crap tbh. May just cancel it.

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Took out the trial just to watch Beastie Boys Story but cancelled after that... not much there to interest me at present though I may take out a month when Foundation hits the service next year or thereabouts.

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Take a look at For All Mankind

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I must say I've never had a problem cancelling prime, seems fairly straightforward.

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you just click the button that says "no thanks"

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It does represent good value, even with the price rise. However, for the streamers the challenge is if they all raise prices 25% someone subscribing to 4 or 5 services might decide to drop the weakest one.

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I did, but they still sent me emails 15 minutes later welcoming me etc.

This is the second time this has happened, first time I didn't realise and paid for 3-4 months before I did.

Totally finished with Amazon.

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Surely, pressing a button to say you don't want Prime is not that much of a hassle! :erm:

As far as Netflix is concerned, I am pretty sure there won't be a huge drop-off of subscriptions. There is a lot of good content on there, and once into it, you can see straight away what you have been missing with conventional TV channels.

Try telling your teenage kids you are scrapping Netflix! Give me some warning - I'll keep my head down!

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Let me know when you convince the Mrs to ditch Virgin’s top package. I imagine the reaction will be much the same.

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Absolutely £20p/m for movies and is it 15 entertainment channels now? plus box sets certainly is excellent value for money especially as there's rumpurs W and Alibi will be joining the lineup in the future too.

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You just put the image of Kevin the teenager in my head with this lol.

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All I managed to do at the end of my £99.99 offer period was to transfer Sky Cinema to Now TV. I don't think I would be popular if I ditched Virgin TV, although I would be content just using the streamers.

As you may recall, I would prefer to have everything on one box, but VM really aren't helping. We are still missing Apple TV, and when I tried to subscribe to Starzplay on the system, a message came up saying I had to phone in. I mean...what? I joined in the end through Roku, which was a straight forward process.

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OB - Do you ever read posts, I have already explained that I did press button to say I didn't want Prime, they still signed me up to it.

So you think 10m new subscribers (9.5m furloughed) during lockdown will all keep Netflix when they are either back at work or unemployed - I would expect at least half to drop it.

As for your comment about my teenage kids - I haven't got any! So you will have a long wait.

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Also notice how Amazon use sly pressure selling with things like "only 4 remaining" on items very naughty by Amazon.

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Another good reason to avoid Amazon, also the lack of tax they pay!

I would be in favour of a sales tax of say 5% added to everything sold to people in this country (reduce taxation on shops etc to compensate) - this would go some way to levelling the playing field.

The USA couldn't really complain as they have had a similar tax on all sales for years.

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I use Amazon a fair bit and I cannot complain about the offers and service that they supply, I got an amazing deal on a pair of Clarks Gore-Tex boots, they were priced at £120 on the Clarks website but I got them for £63 from Amazon, I'd say that's a good reason for continuing to use them imo.

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Not a very good reason at all.

Its up to governments to close tax loopholes and level out the retail tax landscape.

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Prime do make a long and winding road to unsubscribe, which I always do when they want to start charging. Also very easily to accidentally sign up when ordering something. A profitable set up for them.

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The way they treat their staff is a very good reason to not shop with them.

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I totally agree, this is my main reason for avoiding them.

Do they pay Google to appear higher up search lists than e-bay?

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What you might call cutting off your nose to spite your face?

People choose to work for Amazon, and there are plenty of employment protection laws in place. And as Den says, it's up to the government to set the tax rates and the rules under which they are applied.

Whatever. If you choose to pay more to shop elsewhere, I guess that's your choice. I would far rather shop with Amazon than spend money on fuel or public transport to get into town and then spend more in overcrowded shops with poor customer services. I can find better ways to spend my time.

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As opposed to the 20% currently charged (except for books which are zero rated for VAT)?

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You are are assuming Amazon are always the cheapest of the online options. I find sometimes they are but often they are not, especially are you can rarely get cash back through Quidco for Amazon purchases.

I too find Amazon's check out procedure very confusing. It is difficult NOT to join Prime and they try to charge for P and P even when there is a free option for non-Prime users (and 9 times out of 10 arrives much more quickly than their estimate).

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Glad I'm not the only one - I was beginning to feel like a persecuted minority for a while:D:D

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I am a Prime member and they have never, ever tried to charge me for P&P inappropriately, and we do a lot of our shopping there.

What people may not realise is that free P&P through Prime is only available on Prime products. These are indicated clearly on the website. Some products are supplied by other providers and a charge is often made for them by those outside providers.

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I find Amazon isn't as cheap these days , I recently stopped my auto renewal for Prime and to be honest can't say I've missed it.