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colin25 03-05-2014 18:58

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35694862)
They have two games at home and one suspects that's six points in many peoples minds and that wins the title.

I don't. City could lose both, and this game.

if someone was to say to me, that I could have demichelis never playing for city again, but would need to settle for 2nd, i would accept.

denphone 03-05-2014 19:03

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35694866)
I don't. City could lose both, and this game.

if someone was to say to me, that I could have demichelis never playing for city again, but would need to settle for 2nd, i would accept.

He who talks with forked tongue methinks.:nono:

colin25 03-05-2014 19:08

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Typical Naismith, forget football, fake an injury to get a player sent off

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35694867)
He who talks with forked tongue methinks.:nono:

Nope, I have that much dislike for him

thenry 03-05-2014 19:20

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35694866)
I don't. City could lose both, and this game.

if someone was to say to me, that I could have demichelis never playing for city again, but would need to settle for 2nd 1st, i would accept.

;)

colin25 03-05-2014 19:26

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35694872)
;)

lol

thenry 03-05-2014 19:26

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
:D Top 4 confirmed

colin25 03-05-2014 19:26

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
That means arsenal guaranteed 4th.

Mr Pharmacist 03-05-2014 19:32

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
And Hull City in the Europa League. Win that and they'll be in the following seasons Champions League!

thenry 03-05-2014 19:32

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Colin have a word with Graham :LOL:

iadom 03-05-2014 19:33

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35694820)
l agree as Nani just turns it on when he feels like it

Well he hasn't felt like at any time this season, he has been utter crap all along. big mistake to start with Nani and Young. He should have started with Valencia and Januzi which would have allowed him to keep Mata on with Welbeck and RVP.

Fletcher was very poor as well as Nani and Young, the rest not much better, nearly as bad as watching Oldham v Coventry last week but the pies are nicer at OT.:cool:

denphone 03-05-2014 19:43

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35694876)
:D Top 4 confirmed

Well there is one bonus of that and that is Mr Grumpy will be quiet for a period we hope.;)

thenry 03-05-2014 19:49

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Nope. Its still Wenger out.

denphone 03-05-2014 20:12

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35694888)
Nope. Its still Wenger out.

And who in?.

Russ 03-05-2014 20:15

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Moyes.

denphone 03-05-2014 20:18

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:rofl:

thenry 03-05-2014 20:38

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:LOL:

Simeone or Klopp.

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Quote:

There are reports of serious crowd trouble outside the Coppa Italia Final venue with up to four men shot.

http://www.football-italia.net/48703...fans-shot-rome
Quote:

The Coppa Italia Final between Fiorentina and Napoli was delayed to 20.45 after men were shot in Rome in an unrelated incident.

http://www.football-italia.net/48706...layed-incident

denphone 03-05-2014 21:22

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
You can get them out of your mind as there is no chance.

adzii_nufc 03-05-2014 23:04

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Moyes for Arsenal! It couldn't get any worse anyway could it? United should forget LVG and go for Joe Kinnear.

TheDaddy 04-05-2014 02:21

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Bogus story, clubs can't take the premier league to court, they sign an agreement not to when they join the league

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...ints-deduction

They could take Sunderland to court instead though

MalteseFalcon 04-05-2014 08:47

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This is the West Ham/Sheffield United saga from 2006 all over again. They don't make a noise when the punishment is handed out and then when they get relegated start bleating about court cases. Just admit that you sucked all season. Sunderland gained 1 point out of 12 that they could have won with the ineligible player fielded. So he didn't make that big a difference to the team. I could understand if Sunderland had won 2 or 3 of those games but they lost 3 of them.

thenry 04-05-2014 11:49

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35694911)
You can get them out of your mind as there is no chance.

Why not? All it takes is for the club to show the money.

http://www.sportrichlist.com/article...ball-managers/

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs...175604186.html

Damien 04-05-2014 12:02

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Klopp turned down United right away. Didn't even hedge his answer to see what they could offer. It doesn't sound like he will leave Dortmund this summer.

Simone maybe but not sure he has been there long enough to be considered anything other than a gamble. We've had this sudden surges from managers before. It wasn't long ago that some Arsenal fans wanted Moyes or, amazingly, Owen Coyle. I think United shows how careful and considered we need to be.

denphone 04-05-2014 12:06

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35694988)

l see you are still the dreaming the impossible Sir.

thenry 04-05-2014 12:18

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:(

colin25 04-05-2014 12:49

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
I think Arsenal will choose Wenger. Not seeing anyone else in the frame.

Only way they will change, is if wenger quits, or they don't qualify for champions leagues

thenry 04-05-2014 12:57

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It was reported when the sticky patch occurred that CL qualification wouldn't have had bearing on Arsenal offering Wenger a new deal. It would have been either Wenger or Arsenal choosing one way or another.

Damien 04-05-2014 13:05

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
I think Wenger stays another two years then klopp or Simone or someone else might be ready

thenry 04-05-2014 13:10

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The next 2 years are the transition years then. Behind the scenes for sure. New people being brought in for new ideas training the youngsters. Its only the U21s that get continuity of whats already inhouse, 'Arsenes men' if you like getting promotions.

Damien 04-05-2014 13:12

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Sitting behind bench today. Might yell some advice

thenry 04-05-2014 13:14

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
SHOOT!!!! :LOL:

denphone 04-05-2014 13:19

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35695020)
Sitting behind bench today. Might yell some advice

You need a coaching badge to do that Sir.;)

thenry 04-05-2014 13:44

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
:D

denphone 04-05-2014 13:44

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There you go a smiling happy face for once.;)

Dave42 04-05-2014 13:47

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35695024)
There you go a smiling happy face for once.;)

should be another one since Arsenal winning now

colin25 04-05-2014 13:58

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35695025)
should be another one since Arsenal winning now

The smile will stay..until transfer season starts, then normal service will resume :D

thenry 04-05-2014 14:01

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
I feel annoyed already and it hasnt even begun! I can hear chants of 'Bacary Sagna we want you to stay'... he's pretty much a Man City player!!!!

colin25 04-05-2014 14:22

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35695028)
I feel annoyed already and it hasnt even begun! I can hear chants of 'Bacary Sagna we want you to stay'... he's pretty much a Man City player!!!!

And he's back :D

Dave42 04-05-2014 15:27

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No points penalty due over Ji

Sunderland will not face a points deduction from the Premier League in the continuing row over fielding Ji Dong-won with incomplete registration.

Sunderland will not face a points deduction from the Premier League in the continuing row over fielding Ji Dong-won with incomplete registration.

Press Association Sport understands the Premier League is confident any issues regarding Sunderland striker Ji's incomplete registration were resolved as soon as they were uncovered.

Fulham and Norwich are understood to have contacted the Premier League for clarification on the fine handed to Sunderland over fielding Ji for four games without full registration.

Gaps in the 22-year-old Black Cats star's paperwork were highlighted following a routine drugs test, and the Premier League and Sunderland resolved the issues as a result.

The Premier League remains comfortable with the punishment handed out to Sunderland, and is not thought to believe any legal challenge can be mounted against the decision.

Sunderland forward Ji was correctly registered on arrival at the club in 2011, but issues arose after a loan spell with German club Augsburg.

Despite always being correctly registered with the Premier League and the Football Association, Ji's name was missed off a list of Sunderland players sent to world governing body FIFA for doping purposes.

Sunderland are thought to have reported this issue to the Premier League as soon as it was brought to their attention.

Press Association Sport understands the Premier League's investigation found that an online form had not been properly submitted to FIFA.

Sunderland are thought to have told the Premier League they submitted the form, but that a technical fault caused it never to reach FIFA correctly.

The Premier League board is understood to have determined that the technical nature of the oversight merited the fine meted out.

The Press Association understands no further action will be taken, despite two of Sunderland's relegation rivals making enquiries into the Premier League's disciplinary process.

http://sport.bt.com/sportfootball/fo...11363898966123

case closed surely and it funny nothing was said when it looked certain we go down

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Loic Remy is at the Arsenal game today

colin25 04-05-2014 15:29

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35695040)
No points penalty due over Ji


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Loic Remy is at the Arsenal game today

And might be a good signing

Does That make you smile thenry? :D

Dave42 04-05-2014 15:30

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35695046)
And might be a good signing

Does That make you smile thenry? :D

we have to wait and see ;)

colin25 04-05-2014 15:40

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
From BBc, and he has a vailid point, a sustainable model

"
Neil, Suffolk: The Champions League hasn't filled our bank account, just paid for a brand new 60,000-seater stadium and set us up for the next 20 years. Still confused why in Wenger we trust?

thenry 04-05-2014 15:57

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Remy has the pace required and isn't exactly a bad footballer so yeah he would be decent signing but Arsenal need more. I'd be happy if he was part of bunch of top quality signings.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35695048)
From BBc, and he has a vailid point, a sustainable model

"
Neil, Suffolk: The Champions League hasn't filled our bank account, just paid for a brand new 60,000-seater stadium and set us up for the next 20 years. Still confused why in Wenger we trust?

:rolleyes:

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AM playing on SS4 :)

colin25 04-05-2014 16:06

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35695049)
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[/COLOR]AM playing on SS4 :)

Yes, I will keep an eye on this..come on AM.

thenry 04-05-2014 16:07

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
uh-oh own goal

colin25 04-05-2014 16:07

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Oops, I hope I haven't jinxed them :)

thenry 04-05-2014 16:08

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
its all your fault

colin25 04-05-2014 16:09

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35695060)
its all your fault

Hmmm...then I will say

Come on Liverpool and chelsea :D

thenry 04-05-2014 16:11

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:LOL: Theo

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/05/48.jpg
https://twitter.com/Arsenal/status/462977506459410432



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OIER FANO ‏@oierfano
Arsenal has decided to pay Carlos Vela's buy back clause (3,3 million pounds). #realsociedad has been informed...
3:48 PM - 4 May 2014
https://twitter.com/oierfano/status/462966915359842305

Damien 04-05-2014 16:20

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Oh god.. It's started. Summer transfer madness...

thenry 04-05-2014 16:22

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Wenger post match...

Doesn't regret not signing a striker in January. He didn't invite Remy today. If he had it his way both Sagna and Fabianski would sign new deals. And finally yes he will be at Arsenal next season.

I have sympathy for him. There wasn't much on offer in January but last summer was a joke, no excuses.

iadom 04-05-2014 16:33

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
That hack from Tery would have been a foul anywhere else on the pitch.:rolleyes:

Damien 04-05-2014 16:44

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Weird atmosphere at the game anyway. Relaxed and calm reflected in the friendly feel to the game. I am not even sure that the crowd would have been that upset had West Bromwich scored. Nice reception for the team during the appreciation lap.

thenry 04-05-2014 17:24

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
What the hell are AM doing lol

Dave42 04-05-2014 18:13

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35695072)
That hack from Tery would have been a foul anywhere else on the pitch.:rolleyes:

refs always play for top teams this another very good example of it

thenry 04-05-2014 18:33

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Mourinho's funny lol he's asked about the ref today and his response is..

"My assistant is in jail, I don't want to comment"

:LOL:

denphone 04-05-2014 18:45

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Well at least we should get 2nd after todays match.

iadom 04-05-2014 20:13

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
And the league is going to be won by a Lancashire team for the 58th time.:cool:

Dave42 04-05-2014 20:24

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35695127)
And the league is going to be won by a Lancashire team for the 58th time.:cool:

what happened to your team yesterday ;)

thenry 04-05-2014 20:45

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
#GiggsIn

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:LOL: now a spanner in the works for RM

iadom 04-05-2014 21:49

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35695128)
what happened to your team yesterday ;)

Took pity on you, as a Northern team full of ex Reds I don't mind you pinching a few points to stay up. United were complete crap yesterday. One Welsh team and one from London gone, a spirited performance from Norwich today but they still rate as near Southerners to me.

Just hoping that Wigan can win the play offs now.:)

Giggs out. :D

thenry 04-05-2014 21:54

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
:LOL: that was pure class from Ronaldo 2-2. crazy weekend in LaLiga

denphone 05-05-2014 12:32

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Luis Suarez is named football writers Player of the Year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27283858

Fully deserved in my humble opinion.:clap::clap:

colin25 05-05-2014 14:30

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35695284)
Luis Suarez is named football writers Player of the Year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27283858

Fully deserved in my humble opinion.:clap::clap:

For his football...yes, as a person..no

Dave42 05-05-2014 14:32

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35695284)
Luis Suarez is named football writers Player of the Year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27283858

Fully deserved in my humble opinion.:clap::clap:

yes just wish he stop the cheating he is a very class player

denphone 05-05-2014 14:32

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35695335)
For his football...yes, as a person..no

Yes l quite agree as there have been many footballers and managers before who simply are not very nice people but they have to be applauded still for their talents.

thenry 05-05-2014 18:18

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ye well done Suarez :clap: he should have been in Arsenal colours though!

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Quote:

Brazil's sports tribunal has ordered a second-division team to play its next two home matches in an empty stadium because of the death of a man struck in the head by a toilet bowl thrown from the stands during fan violence last weekend.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/05/0...#storylink=cpy

denphone 05-05-2014 18:45

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
You can dream but that's what it will remain dear chap.:waving:

thenry 05-05-2014 20:49

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Barca set for big clear out...

Quote:

Barça offers thirteen players on the market

http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barc...ercado-3265702
I think they have got carried away with some of those names but they could spring a surprise and get rid. Barca have been acting early on incomers and with the ban they will have to act quick, they haven't got the choice of waiting. Arsenal have Fabregas regardless what anyone else thinks. Wenger might be stubborn but hes not thick.

denphone 05-05-2014 20:54

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Well there is still hope but Man City are still 20 to 1 on to lift the title in my humble opinion.

iadom 05-05-2014 21:09

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Well Brendon certainly learned something from Jose, two blatant, Chelski style blocks on Ledley to give Allen a free header.;)

They only need another six now. :)

Damien 05-05-2014 21:19

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Liverpool are looking to rack up the goal difference aren't they!?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35695409)
Barca set for big clear out...



I think they have got carried away with some of those names but they could spring a surprise and get rid. Barca have been acting early on incomers and with the ban they will have to act quick, they haven't got the choice of waiting. Arsenal have Fabregas regardless what anyone else thinks. Wenger might be stubborn but hes not thick.

I really want Fabregas but it's hard to see how he fits into the team now. He is better than what we have but we don't really need him. Not enough to pay £30 million IMO. Still hope I am wrong.

denphone 05-05-2014 21:21

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
We need another five tonight yet and then another five or six against Newcastle to stand any chance.

thenry 05-05-2014 21:22

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Aston Villa & West Ham will surely be steamrolled

denphone 05-05-2014 21:26

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35695422)
Aston Villa & West Ham will surely be steamrolled

That's the biggest cert one can bet on.

thenry 05-05-2014 21:31

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35695419)
I really want Fabregas but it's hard to see how he fits into the team now. He is better than what we have but we don't really need him. Not enough to pay £30 million IMO. Still hope I am wrong.

Midfielders
Rosicky - Squad player
Arteta - Legs gone. Needs to be sold
Wilshere - Injury prone. XI?
Ozil - XI
Oxlade-Chamberlain - Not a CM imo
Ramsey - XI
Cazorla - Can be sold
Flamini - Squad player
Abou Diaby - Non-Existent
Kallstrom - Leaving
Eisfeld - Hasn't developed
Olsson - Hasn't developed

Quote:

------Szczesny ------
RB - Mert - Kos - Gibbs
---Cesc - Wilshere---
Theo - Rambo - Ozil
---------ST---------
Arsenal would have been Champions had Fab been about. The club needs depth like that to push on. Rambo and Wilshere played incredibly well while Fab was around playing with them both. A lot of the development was done with Fab.

Goalkeepers
Szczesny - XI
Viviano - Gone
Fabianski - Gone

Defenders
Sagna - Gone
Mertesacker - XI
Vermaelen - Gone
Koscielny - XI
Monreal - Sqaud Player
Jenkinson - Squad Player
Gibbs - XI
Bellerín - Developing
Hayden - Developing

Forwards
Podolski - Gone
Giroud - Gone
Sanogo - Squad player
Bendtner - Gone
Akpom - Developing ?

iadom 05-05-2014 21:40

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35695422)
Aston Villa & West Ham will surely be steamrolled

Strange but true fact, only one team have taken points off each of the top four this season, Villa have beaten City, Chelsea, Arsenal and drawn with Liverpool.


Oops, that's just messed up the goal difference.

denphone 05-05-2014 21:41

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
It was only a fools hope.

thenry 05-05-2014 21:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35695428)
Strange but true fact, only one team have taken points off each of the top four this season, Villa have beaten City, Chelsea, Arsenal and drawn with Liverpool.

shush! ;)

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https://twitter.com/EveningChron/sta...71580329197568

Shadow Demon UK 05-05-2014 21:46

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Oh dear :)

iadom 05-05-2014 21:48

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
As the great SAF said, "football, bloody hell".:shocked:

denphone 05-05-2014 21:48

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
That's the reason why we have foundered in our title bid.:td::(

thenry 05-05-2014 21:55

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
i suspect theres going to be a fair few gifs :LOL:

Damien 05-05-2014 21:56

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35695427)
Midfielders
Rosicky - Squad player
Arteta - Legs gone. Needs to be sold
Wilshere - Injury prone. XI?
Ozil - XI
Oxlade-Chamberlain - Not a CM imo
Ramsey - XI
Cazorla - Can be sold
Flamini - Squad player
Abou Diaby - Non-Existent
Kallstrom - Leaving
Eisfeld - Hasn't developed
Olsson - Hasn't developed



Arsenal would have been Champions had Fab been about. The club needs depth like that to push on. Rambo and Wilshere played incredibly well while Fab was around playing with them both.

You can't have Wilshere and Fabregas playing in a holding midfield role imo.

Shadow Demon UK 05-05-2014 21:56

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/05/47.jpg

Chris 05-05-2014 22:00

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
I still remember the bloke selling "Double Double Winners" posters in the city centre in 1988 before Wimbledon interfered with the script. :D

I think Liverpool's defence is still far too leaky. They can put goals away as much as they like but they're still too vulnerable to a side that wants it badly enough.

thenry 05-05-2014 22:02

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35695436)
You can't have Wilshere and Fabregas playing in a holding midfield role imo.

Try tell Wenger that. He wont see it as sitting but loads of movement and jobs to be done. Whether thats the right thing I don't know but I just cannot see Arsene letting Fab go elsewhere if he leaves Barca. I can't even see the oil rich being able to offer crazy numbers because of FFP.

Damien 05-05-2014 22:03

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
I would say in the 'Fabregas creative centre mid role' we have Ramsey, Ozil and Cazorla.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35695440)
Try tell Wenger that. He wont see it as sitting but loads of movement and jobs to be done. Whether thats the right thing I don't know but I just cannot see Arsene letting Fab go elsewhere if he leaves Barca. I can't even see the oil rich being able to offer crazy numbers because of FFP.

I hope not but I think we would need rid of Cazorla and even then it's a tough ask wondering how to build the team. It's just not one of the areas we're weak in.

Dave42 05-05-2014 22:07

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
how on earth did Liverpool muck that up from 3-0 up

thenry 05-05-2014 22:07

Re: Football Season 2013/14 & Summer Window
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35695441)
I would say in the 'Fabregas creative centre mid role' we have Ramsey, Ozil and Cazorla.

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I hope not but I think we would need rid of Cazorla and even then it's a tough ask wondering how to build the team. It's just not one of the areas we're weak in.

Cazorla can go. He has been pretty useless. He doesn't look up for it, evidently needed more from him and he hasn't delivered. Good thing is there will be a fair few clubs interested, he isn't crap.

Ramsey, Ozil and Wilshere. Yup there are numbers but so what. If the players want to win big then they need to sacrifice something. Look at Joses tactics, you cannot have it all, something has to give.

On building a team. Depth. Thats building a team. Not 1 XI.

And lastly Arsenal can afford it.

Damien 05-05-2014 22:11

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35695446)
Ramsey, Ozil and Wilshere. Yup there are numbers but so what. If the players want to win big then they need to sacrifice something. Look at Joses tactics, you cannot have it all, something has to give.

On building a team. Depth. Thats building a team. Not 1 XI.

Because why build so much depth there when the money is better spent elsewhere? Also you inhibit development of players if they don't play regularly IMO. We'll see. I would love him back but don't see it.

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35695445)
how on earth did Liverpool muck that up from 3-0 up

Amazing.

thenry 05-05-2014 22:26

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How many players have lasted the whole season?

The money is there.

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I'm getting great joy listening to Carragher. ugh.. ugh.. ugh :rofl:

Damien 05-05-2014 22:32

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35695450)
How many players have lasted the whole season? .

Not many but even then centre-mid has been probably the only position we haven't had a problem with despite two of the first team being out. It's our strongest position. The money is there but £30 million on Fabregas or for more strikers, winger or defensive player. Priorities: World class Striker, World class Defensive Midfielder, another Striker, Right-Back, maybe another centre back.

thenry 05-05-2014 22:50

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/05/46.jpg

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:LOL: .....

https://vine.co/v/M6MtJ3gTePl

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35695456)
Not many but even then centre-mid has been probably the only position we haven't had a problem with despite two of the first team being out. It's our strongest position. The money is there but £30 million on Fabregas or for more strikers, winger or defensive player. Priorities: World class Striker, World class Defensive Midfielder, another Striker, Right-Back, maybe another centre back.

Really? You're saying had Ramsey been available, he didn't get injured that Arsenal wouldn't have had the title or still been in the race for it? What about if Arsenal had Diaby? A full fit Wilshere?

Remember there are going to be sales.

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That Wilshere goal gave me goose bumps. Worthy of Goal of the season :clap:

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omg all this Stevie stuff from Carragher is making me cringe

thenry 05-05-2014 23:01

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soo so wrong on so many levels but hardly surprising coming from that clown of a club.

Damien 05-05-2014 23:02

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35695457)
Really? You're saying had Ramsey been available, he didn't get injured that Arsenal wouldn't have had the title or still been in the race for it? What about if Arsenal had Diaby? A full fit Wilshere?

I don't know. I find it a bit presumptive to assume that if/what had happen we would have won the title. We don't know what would have happened if things were different but you can't retrofit the squad with the benefit of hindsight. It's unlikely we'll have the same injuries again when Ramsey, Ozil and Wilshere all found themselves out in additional to Walcott. We could purchase more cover for central midfield and find out we're fine there but our defence is falling apart.

I think we need to look at the squad now and see where we need to improve it and central midfield does not leap out at me as a weak spot. Instead the full backs need to be better. We may need more cover in central defence. I think we need a world class defensive/holding midfielder to rotate with Flamini or to accompany him for tougher games.

We might need more pace on the wing as Walcott's injury, not Ramsey's, was the biggest blow as far as I am concerned. Ramsey was our best player but we did have cover there. Ozil was out as long and Cazorla is a pretty good player too. However Walcott's injury robbed the side of pace and teams felt fine playing a high line against us.

Then we need two strikers.

I want Fabregas back but I am just being realistic in that he doesn't solve any of the more pressing problems and if it weren't for the prospect of his possible departure we wouldn't be talking about central midfield at all. It's an emotional attachment to Fabregas that makes us want his return rather than any pressing need. Arsenal spent £42 million on Ozil. Would we play around £30 million for Fabregas in the same position? On top of our expected outlay for all the aforementioned positions.

thenry 05-05-2014 23:34

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35695464)
I don't know. I find it a bit presumptive to assume that if/what had happen we would have won the title. We don't know what would have happened if things were different but you can't retrofit the squad with the benefit of hindsight. It's unlikely we'll have the same injuries again when Ramsey, Ozil and Wilshere all found themselves out in additional to Walcott. We could purchase more cover for central midfield and find out we're fine there but our defence is falling apart.

Where have you been these past few years? The same ol'd happens year in year out. Stock up, depth. Thats building a team.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35695464)
I think we need to look at the squad now and see where we need to improve it and central midfield does not leap out at me as a weak spot. Instead the full backs need to be better. We may need more cover in central defence. I think we need a world class defensive/holding midfielder to rotate with Flamini or to accompany him for tougher games.

We might need more pace on the wing as Walcott's injury, not Ramsey's, was the biggest blow as far as I am concerned. Ramsey was our best player but we did have cover there. Ozil was out as long and Cazorla is a pretty good player too. However Walcott's injury robbed the side of pace and teams felt fine playing a high line against us.

Then we need two strikers.

Ramsey was being dubbed for player of the season and no not only by Arsenal fans. Thats a bigger blow than Theo. Ramsey offers something completely different in midfield. Two different qualities I would have rather had Ramsey than Theo if I had the choice.

Strikers are a must regardless.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35695464)
I want Fabregas back but I am just being realistic in that he doesn't solve any of the more pressing problems and if it weren't for the prospect of his possible departure we wouldn't be talking about central midfield at all. It's an emotional attachment to Fabregas that makes us want his return rather than any pressing need. Arsenal spent £42 million on Ozil. Would we play around £30 million for Fabregas in the same position? On top of our expected outlay for all the aforementioned positions.

Fab is a quality you can't just let other have. Arsenal fans have been calling for investment for many years and now its there to be had you're saying about being stocked up. I understand totally about the more pressing needs but I don't see why both cannot be addressed.

Arsenal wont have or don't need these players...

Viviano
Fabianski
Sagna
Vermaelen
Arteta
Cazorla
Abou Diaby
Kallstrom
Miyaichi
Podolski
Giroud
Bendtner
Akpom

Thats a fair bit taken off the wage budget not to mention monies from transfers for some of those even if only some of those go. Note budgets will msot likely be increased more so with the new Puma deal and talking of Puma, the club will have packages to offer potential signings. Greater incentive.

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Tottenham Hotspur ‏@SpursOfficial
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clowns.

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also all this hype over the PL being the best is reaching silly heights. teams playing for nothing beat title challengers all the time like erm this weekend in LaLiga :dunce:

TheDaddy 06-05-2014 01:25

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35695434)
That's the reason why we have foundered in our title bid.:td::(

Just think it could all have been different if carragher hadn't retired

Anyway ROGERS OUT

denphone 06-05-2014 06:19

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35695438)
I still remember the bloke selling "Double Double Winners" posters in the city centre in 1988 before Wimbledon interfered with the script. :D

I think Liverpool's defence is still far too leaky. They can put goals away as much as they like but they're still too vulnerable to a side that wants it badly enough.

You have summed it up perfectly as they have nearly conceded twice as many goals as Chelsea and to win the league you cannot have a defence as open as that as it was absolute craziness when they were 3-0 up last night to keep going forward with hardly anybody left to man the defence and although l am very pleased with how we have performed this season compared to some other so called big teams ;) l also hope we can learn and progress even more next season.

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35695445)
how on earth did Liverpool muck that up from 3-0 up

Well they did Dave sadly and you can just imagine a smile :) in my household suddenly being replaced with well what the bloody hell has happened there frown.:(

Russ 06-05-2014 07:32

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Nobody bottles a title race like the Scousers :D

thenry 06-05-2014 08:49

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Good morning Liverpool fans. Thanks for the birthday present :D


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