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BenMcr 31-01-2022 15:40

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36111786)
Yup, Johnson pretending he is there to sort out what happened in No 10 as if it was nothing to do with him.

It's the '4 Stages' from Yes Minister all over again - and that joke is 36 years old!

Damien 31-01-2022 15:57

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
His own party seem to have the worst words for him today. May and Andrew Mitchell laying into him.

papa smurf 31-01-2022 15:58

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Blackford chucked out.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...-gray-video-VN

Hugh 31-01-2022 16:24

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
The prime minister's key message today is that we wait to read the full report, the full details of which he will not commit to publishing...

1andrew1 31-01-2022 16:26

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quite a few MPs today have mentioned criminal investigation including Starmer. Would that be an investigation into perverting the course of justice? Breaking the Covid rules is surely civil. And if criminal, it must be proved beyond reasonable doubt so needs some evidence like a Johnson email I guess?

Dave42 31-01-2022 16:29

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NEW: Met’s Catherine Roper: “We had a bundle of material provided [Fri] which is well over 500 pieces of paper…& over 300 photos…my offices are prioritising this week to consider what's been provided in that bundle of material, what further investigations that they need to do”

Damien 31-01-2022 16:30

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36111794)
Quite a few MPs today have mentioned criminal investigation including Starmer. Would that be an investigation into perverting the course of justice? Breaking the Covid rules is surely civil.

No, I think it's criminal just with a really low consequence.

papa smurf 31-01-2022 16:33

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I have to confess when starmer started speaking i nodded off.

BenMcr 31-01-2022 16:45

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Seriously??

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...083bd5311948e6

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Clive Efford (Lab) says the PM told MPs last year he had been assured there were no parties. That led to him inadvertently misleading the house. Have they been disciplined?

Johnson says they need to wait for the outcome of the police investigation. He says Efford may or may not be right.

Mick 31-01-2022 16:55

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36111796)
No, I think it's criminal just with a really low consequence.

It is not criminal. If a person was caught breaching the Covid rules, they were issued with a Fixed Penalty Notice, that once paid, the recipient waived any criminal liability and no criminal record.

The problem now for the Police, is that there is a statute of limitations of 6 months on such breaches. So if they see any breaches now that happened over 6 months ago, the police have no legal authority to sanction as per the Coronavirus Act.

Damien 31-01-2022 16:59

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
I think it is still a criminal offence isn't it? That's why the police are the ones to issue it. It's not like a parking ticket.

Chris 31-01-2022 17:10

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36111802)
I think it is still a criminal offence isn't it? That's why the police are the ones to issue it. It's not like a parking ticket.

Road traffic offences are a special class of criminal offence which don’t ordinarily (except at the most serious end) result in what’s commonly understood as a “criminal record”. And a parking ticket issued by a police officer or a traffic warden does sit in that category, except in places where traffic offences have been decriminalised in bye laws passed by a local council. At that point traffic regulation becomes a matter for council employees (or their agents).

Mick 31-01-2022 17:20

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36111802)
I think it is still a criminal offence isn't it? That's why the police are the ones to issue it. It's not like a parking ticket.

It only becomes a criminal offence if you refuse to pay the fine, paying the fine waives the criminal liability aspect of it, the Crown Prosecution Service has the power to charge you with a criminal offence for breaching Coronavirus Act and drag you off to court, if the fine isn’t paid.

jonbxx 31-01-2022 17:22

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Hands up who really wants to see the 300 photos?

If there isn't at least one photo of a sweaty Boris Johnson, shirt half unbuttoned with his tie around his head, I will be very disappointed...

Hom3r 31-01-2022 17:30

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36111790)


This has made my day, ban him until he withdraws the comment.


I mean, Dennis Skinner once said "half the politicians opposite are crooks", was told to withdraw the comment. He said "I apologise, I meant half the politician opposite are not crooks"


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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36111797)
I have to confess when starmer started speaking i nodded off.


He makes me swear STFU and want to throw something at the TV.


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