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Perhaps Biden can encourage both the UK and EU to resolve this dispute?
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/bre...7-meet-8031462

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Because Brexit means Brexit?

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Totally wrong. Do you think David Frost and his EU counterparts are making this stuff up? That's one hell of a conspiracy theory.

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Then surely your argument is with UK Gov for signing the deal? No one forced them

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Where's your source to evidence that the UK has tried and been refused veterinary equivalence whilst it has done so for other nations? This would be a solution and I hope we can do something like this.

As to the bigger picture, to quote Jonathan Powell, former chief of staff to Tony Blair, and uniquely well informed on Northern Ireland.
"Critics say that the Conservative government is winding up the loyalists with its hardball tactics. “There is a nexus between the loyalists and the Tory party,” Mr. Powell said. “The Tories are making Northern Ireland politics interesting in a way that we don’t want them to be, which is all about identity.”"
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/07/w...it-border.html

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Re: Britain outside the EU
 

But, we did, so therefore your argument can't be with the EU? Seems to me this can be end in one of two ways

1. We agreed to these terms and we're now having to deal with the fall out.
2. The EU are breaking the terms of the treaty/agreement which is subject to international law?

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Cable forum in meltdown over sausages shocker

get a bloody grip :rolleyes:

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

I have no intention of gripping your sausage thank you very much

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I was simply waving it, trying to fit in ;)

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Well, apart from Article 7 of the Northern Ireland Protocol which states that goods placed on the market in Northern Ireland are covered by articles 34 and 36 of the Treaty for the Functioning of the European Union (Lisbon Treaty) These are the Single Market clauses.

Basically, goods entering Northern Ireland are entering the EU Single Market and are therefore covered by those rules.

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Biden can hardly string a sentence together, so I doubt Boris will be that intimidated.

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Compared to his predecessor, he's the Bard. ;)

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Nailed it.

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HMG’s strategy seems to be to portray the EU as obsessing over trivial rules and to win a PR war, regardless of what the agreement actually says. It won’t be difficult to achieve that within the UK - EU rules on sausages and chicken nuggets is precisely the sort of thing that got the tabloids in a froth time after time when we were in the EU. I suspect they’re also trying to trap any foreign leader who might be tempted to weigh in on EU’s side (I.e. Joe Biden, who shares that strange American proclivity for identifying with the country one of their distant ancestors came from). There’s a very clear attempt here to put the EU’s obsession with sausages on one side and the UK’s concern for peace and harmony in Ireland on the other. If the UK gov is successful at establishing that narrative it will be hard for the EU to get a decent sound bite out of Joe while he’s in Cornwall.

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Or (putting tin foil hat on) could this be a case of 'hurr, hurr, hurr, look how fussy those foreign types are with their ridiculous food standards' as a softener for any old junk being sold here. If you are fussy about food standards, you're no better than a frenchman, etc.

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I think you're right. As a reporter in Brussels, Boris Johnson made his name with well-crafted stories on straight bananas that bent the truth. So he knows how to play the game well here.

Biden's interest in Ireland is entirely logical. There's plenty of Irish ancestry votes in the US to be tapped. And the Good Friday Agreement is seen as a key Democrat success so he will not want to see that achievement harmed.