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Pierre 05-09-2018 18:00
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35962346)
Of course a fudge is coming, there can be no other way. The big countries of the EU will not sacrifice their economies on the alter of the four freedoms and ECJ jurisdiction, by cutting adrift trade and possible future payments into the EU budget for the UK to access the Single Market......but they can't be seen to be cutting such a deal.

So it will be fudge, after fudge, after fudge until we reach an acceptable equilibrium for both sides.

Damien 05-09-2018 18:16
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And equally the UK is not keen on falling back to W.T.O rules.

papa smurf 05-09-2018 18:19
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And equally the UK is not keen on falling back to W.T.O rules.
Some are some aren't it's not quite that black and white .

1andrew1 05-09-2018 21:11
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This just seems to be kicking the tin can down the road.

Damien 05-09-2018 21:34
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Some are some aren't it's not quite that black and white .
The current position of the U.K. government is to avoid WTO even if it involves stalling IMO.

1andrew1 05-09-2018 21:58
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Yes I have seen the wasteland that was the Newccy Brown brewery in Newcastle. Lots of EU money no longer coming to that region ...
Just to clarify a few things:
-Newcastle Brown was brewed in Newcastle upon Tyne until 2005
-From 2005 until 2010 it was brewed across the Tyne in Gateshead
-From 2010 onwards it has been brewed further south at the John Smith's Brewery in Tadcaster, North Yorkshire
-The Tadcaster production was joined in 2017 by production at Heineken's brewery in the Netherlands. The Tadcaster brewery has not closed and continues to produce Newcastle Brown and John Smith's ales for the UK.

pip08456 05-09-2018 22:50
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35962378)
Just to clarify a few things:
-Newcastle Brown was brewed in Newcastle upon Tyne until 2005
-From 2005 until 2010 it was brewed across the Tyne in Gateshead
Actually Dunston at the Federation Brewery in the Metropolitan Area of Gateshead.
-From 2010 onwards it has been brewed further south at the John Smith's Brewery in Tadcaster, North Yorkshire
-The Tadcaster production was joined in 2017 by production at Heineken's brewery in the Netherlands. The Tadcaster brewery has not closed and continues to produce Newcastle Brown and John Smith's ales for the UK.
It moved in 2017 to the Heineken Brewery in Zoeterwoude, the Netherlands.
Source

1andrew1 05-09-2018 23:07
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Newcastle Brown for the US market is now produced in the Netherlands but production for the UK is still made in Tadcaster.
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-G...ucts/255237427
https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/shop/gb...rown-ale-550ml

The Federation Brewery in Dunstone has an interesting history as until its sale to Scottish & Newcastle, it was collectively owned by the working men's clubs in the region.

Maggy 06-09-2018 09:10
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OK Beer's not the topic fascinating as it is.

Maggy 06-09-2018 15:58
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Off topic posts removed.Keep to Brexit as a topic.

tweetiepooh 07-09-2018 12:26
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35962351)
Of course a fudge is coming, there can be no other way. The big countries of the EU will not sacrifice their economies on the alter of the four freedoms and ECJ jurisdiction, by cutting adrift trade and possible future payments into the EU budget for the UK to access the Single Market......but they can't be seen to be cutting such a deal.

So it will be fudge, after fudge, after fudge until we reach an acceptable equilibrium for both sides.
Fudge, arrlllll (droowl) fudge.

Sephiroth 07-09-2018 12:37
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I liked the bit in the Torygraph today reporting that Raab had told Barnier that the EU would have to order Ireland to erect a boarder if there was no deal. Barnier was reported to be "furious". Should have been said months ago.

Damien 07-09-2018 18:27
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Seems a bit questionable. The U.K Government do not want a hard border either. I think they would consider just having an open border even without any formal agreement than putting up an actual border.

Sephiroth 07-09-2018 18:38
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Seems a bit questionable. The U.K Government do not want a hard border either. I think they would consider just having an open border even without any formal agreement than putting up an actual border.
One might think so. But Barnier has been loud and strong on not in anyway compromising the 4 pillars of the EU. If it wasn't so important to the people in the Irish island it would make for fun letting the EU stew on their pedantry.

1andrew1 08-09-2018 14:59
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AS BoJo joins the singles market :D , Eurosceptics decide not to publish their plans.
Quote:
Conservative Eurosceptics have abandoned their plan to publish an alternative Chequers blueprint.
Tory members of the European Research Group had been due to put their names to a single document setting out their own proposals for a limited Brexit deal with the European Union.
The plan was shelved amid divisions over strategy and fears among some MPs that it would provide ammunition for Downing Street and pro-European groups to attack their proposals.
The group is instead planning a programme of events, starting with a speech on Wednesday by David Davis, the former Brexit secretary.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e...rint-5rxnblpql


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