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1andrew1 10-04-2017 19:48

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35894040)
Nothing in many respects... but point me to a number of pro Brexit stories in the FT.

Balanced reporting doesn't mean that for every story that covers a negative impact of Brexit you have to provide a story that covers a positive impact of Brexit.
Balanced reporting means that you cover the main stories and you cover them accurately.

pip08456 10-04-2017 19:52

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Except that the FT doesn't.

1andrew1 10-04-2017 20:01

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35894054)
Except that the FT doesn't.

Do you have an example?

passingbat 10-04-2017 20:08

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35894052)
Balanced reporting doesn't mean that for every story that covers a negative impact of Brexit you have to provide a story that covers a positive impact of Brexit.
Balanced reporting means that you cover the main stories and you cover them accurately.


Have you ever seen an article in the FT that supports Brexit from the perspective of the UK taking control of Immigration, laws and taxes? Surely the UK having control over these things should be every UK citizens desire? I mean, who want's these things decided by people who have not been directly elected?


I'll hazard a guess that there never has, nor ever will be one.

1andrew1 10-04-2017 20:16

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35894058)
Have you ever seen an article in the FT that supports Brexit from the perspective of the UK taking control of Immigration, laws and taxes? Surely the UK having control over these things should be every UK citizens desire? I mean, who want's these things decided by people who have not been directly elected?


I'll hazard a guess that there never has, nor ever will be one.

The FT is a newspaper, not a political party. It maximises its readership by reporting news in an unbiased fashion so that business figures can make important decisions based on facts and informed analysis. It's respected by trade unionists, business leaders; heck, even Trump is a subscriber!

Mr K 10-04-2017 20:23

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35894059)
The FT is a newspaper, not a political party. It maximises its readership by reporting news in an unbiased fashion so that business figures can make important decisions based on facts and informed analysis. It's respected by trade unionists, business leaders; heck, even Trump is a subscriber!

And the fact it has had very few (if any) pro-Brexit articles should alarm anyone that doesn't have a closed mind. Maybe we should turn to the Fail/Express for a more balanced view, or does just spread the vitriol and interests of its owners?

papa smurf 10-04-2017 20:24

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The FT has become the Daily Mail of the Europhile elite

An enjoyable aspect of the EU referendum campaign is the nervous condition of the Financial Times. Unable to maintain its usual pretence at judicious balance under the strain, it has become the Daily Mail of the Europhile global elites, warning of the Seven Plagues which will afflict us if we vote to leave. Rather as the Mail loves the headline beginning ‘Just why…?’, so the FT all-purpose referendum headline begins ‘Fears mount…’

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/0...ophile-elite/#


Fail Times


Which Newspapers Support Brexit In The EU Referendum?

The FT made its view clear back on 15 June. It urged readers to vote remain, and also criticised the referendum campaigns of both sides, claiming: “David Cameron’s referendum gamble has proved to be a futile attempt to heal divisions in the ruling Conservative party. The campaign has split the country. Emotions have trumped facts. Born-again populists rail against the establishment.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...b0a4f99adc6525

Mr K 10-04-2017 20:35

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35893994)
Just to correct you on something. Working in the Healthcare industry does require skills, it's not a job anybody can just walk in to and do or take up and it does require certain qualifications.
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Well aware of that Michael, Mrs K is a Staff Nurse. She is only too aware of how much we depend on migrants in the NHS both skilled and unskilled. The mounting vacancy crisis in Nursing has been exacerbated by Brexit. EU staff are leaving and few are coming in; they don't feel welcome or valued and there are better offers and prospects and in other countries. However the unskilled cleaners etc who are prepared to work for sweet FA, are equally as vital to the running of the NHS, a large proportion of these are also migrants.

pip08456 10-04-2017 20:43

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35894067)
Well aware of that Michael, Mrs K is a Staff Nurse. She is only too aware of how much we depend on migrants in the NHS both skilled and unskilled. The mounting vacancy crisis in Nursing has been exacerbated by Brexit. EU staff are leaving and few are coming in; they don't feel welcome or valued and there are better offers and prospects and in other countries. However the unskilled cleaners etc who are prepared to work for sweet FA, are equally as vital to the running of the NHS, a large proportion of these are also migrants.

What you have to remember Mr K is that migrants drive down wages. While there is someone who will do the job for less then companies will exploit that. Simple economics 101.

Mr K 10-04-2017 20:47

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35894069)
What you have to remember Mr K is that migrants drive down wages. While there is someone who will do the job for less then companies will exploit that. Simple economics 101.

And the NHS can afford higher wages? Simple economics 102.

pip08456 10-04-2017 20:50

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And the NHS can afford higher wages? Simple economics 102.

Considering what they pay for agency nurses then yes until the Government get their perverbial finger out!

passingbat 10-04-2017 21:18

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35894059)
The FT is a newspaper, not a political party. It maximises its readership by reporting news in an unbiased fashion so that business figures can make important decisions based on facts and informed analysis. It's respected by trade unionists, business leaders; heck, even Trump is a subscriber!


By selecting only stories that side with remain, and ignoring the positive aspects of Brexit, they are biased and pushing an Agenda.


The Express and Daily Mail are just as guilty from the other side.
It amazes me that you fail to see that.

Mr K 10-04-2017 21:27

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35894078)
By selecting only stories that side with remain, and ignoring the positive aspects of Brexit, they are biased and pushing an Agenda.


The Express and Daily Mail are just as guilty from the other side.
It amazes me that you fail to see that.

Maybe there aren't many positive aspects as far as the market is concerned, and they are just reporting that. Where as the Fail/Express owner's have their own agenda to benefit themselves.

1andrew1 10-04-2017 21:46

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35894078)
By selecting only stories that side with remain, and ignoring the positive aspects of Brexit, they are biased and pushing an Agenda.
The Express and Daily Mail are just as guilty from the other side.
It amazes me that you fail to see that.

I wouldn't put The Express and The Mail in the same bracket. They have a poor track record of accuracy. http://awards.pressgazette.co.uk/201...es-under-ipso/
I've explained to you that the FT reports the most important stories. Others have explained to you that the absence of good news business Brexit stories could be down to the fact that short of inventing them, there are few such news stories out there.
To a neutral pair of eyes, there can only be one conclusion. To put it in black and white: the FT is not busy hiding good news Brexit business stories by the bucket load. The reality is such stories are as rare as hen's teeth. Which for patriotic people like me who care for the economic wellbeing of their country as that funds services like healthcare and defence, is a tad worrying.

pip08456 10-04-2017 22:47

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35894086)
I wouldn't put The Express and The Mail in the same bracket. They have a poor track record of accuracy. http://awards.pressgazette.co.uk/201...es-under-ipso/
I've explained to you that the FT reports the most important stories. Others have explained to you that the absence of good news business Brexit stories could be down to the fact that short of inventing them, there are few such news stories out there.
To a neutral pair of eyes, there can only be one conclusion. To put it in black and white: the FT is not busy hiding good news Brexit business stories by the bucket load. The reality is such stories are as rare as hen's teeth. Which for patriotic people like me who care for the economic wellbeing of their country as that funds services like healthcare and defence, is a tad worrying.

HERE'S a good business news one the FT failed to report.


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