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muppetman11 08-04-2016 18:06

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An interesting read

http://blogs.which.co.uk/technology/...-media-tv-box/

Mad Max 08-04-2016 18:28

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35831512)


Very, but as it says at the end, with all the available alternatives such as smart TV's etc will people really pay more for Virgin's new box?

denphone 08-04-2016 18:38

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35831512)

Yes it is a interesting read.

jobbie8 08-04-2016 19:20

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Watched a couple of shows on hay.u app. Not really the content I would go for, but the picture quality is great. 1080p like Netflix is. No buffer or stuttering either.

spiderplant 08-04-2016 20:37

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35831424)
it would collide with VMs own ppv movie service.

VM do not own a PPV movie service. Virgin Movies is owned by Vubiquity
http://www.digitaltveurope.net/18586...-uks-filmflex/

1andrew1 08-04-2016 21:07

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35831512)

Great read, thanks for highlighting.

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Originally Posted by jobbie8 (Post 35831519)
Watched a couple of shows on hay.u app. Not really the content I would go for, but the picture quality is great. 1080p like Netflix is. No buffer or stuttering either.

Anyone else noticed that Vince has gone AWOL since Hayu launched? :)

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35831527)
VM do not own a PPV movie service. Virgin Movies is owned by Vubiquity
http://www.digitaltveurope.net/18586...-uks-filmflex/

VM have a significant degree of control over it and could replace Vubiquity if they wanted to. They don't have such a power over branded providers like Netflix and Wuaki.

denphone 09-04-2016 06:17

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Vince is probably still typing his email of unhappiness to send to Mr Mockeridge.;)

spiderplant 09-04-2016 08:34

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35831529)
VM have a significant degree of control over it and could replace Vubiquity if they wanted to. They don't have such a power over branded providers like Netflix and Wuaki.

Perhaps, but that wasn't the point. It isn't a blocker to other services being added, as suggested.

The same incorrect claims were made before Netflix was added...

1andrew1 09-04-2016 10:10

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35831560)
Perhaps, but that wasn't the point. It isn't a blocker to other services being added, as suggested.

The same incorrect claims were made before Netflix was added...

I see a pay-per-view mainstream films service as competing and overlaapping directly with Virgin Films. So I see Amazon's and Wuaki's PPV services competing/overlapping with Virgin Films so can't see them coming to VM soon.

But I don't see subscription services like Netflix, Amazon Prime or Mubi competing directly or overlapping with Virgin Films. Nor Curzon which is PPV but has more niche titles.

theone2k10 09-04-2016 10:16

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35831579)
I see a pay-per-view mainstream films service as competing and overlaapping directly with Virgin Films. So I see Amazon's and Wuaki's PPV services competing/overlapping with Virgin Films so can't see them coming to VM soon.

But I don't see subscription services like Netflix, Amazon Prime or Mubi competing directly or overlapping with Virgin Films. Nor Curzon which is PPV but has more niche titles.

I can see Curzon appearing on vm if it isn't there already?
This is available on BTtv too so wouldn't be surprised to see VM get this in the near future if it isn't already there.
I still stand by what i said though i think what i was told about Wuaki was a wind up not because vm would block it but because it may be seen as a conflict with the movie ppv service already on VM.
Netflix and Curzon don't offer the latest movies to rent (curzon does offer movies to rent but movies unheard off).
Wuaki and Amazon video do offer latest movies to rent this is why for now i see vm not wanting them due to a conflict of interest in the movie rental system vm already have in place.
EDIT:
Something i think we will see VM start to do possibly in the next 2 years is introduce a buy and keep option where you can purchase movies or shows and download them to your set top box or computer, i think this may be introduced shortly after the new Tivo is launched.

1andrew1 09-04-2016 10:30

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35831582)
I can see Curzon appearing on vm if it isn't there already?
This is available on BTtv too so wouldn't be surprised to see VM get this in the near future if it isn't already there.
I still stand by what i said though i think what i was told about Wuaki was a wind up not because vm would block it but because it may be seen as a conflict with the movie ppv service already on VM.
Netflix and Curzon don't offer the latest movies to rent (curzon does offer movies to rent but movies unheard off).
Wuaki and Amazon video do offer latest movies to rent this is why for now i see vm not wanting them due to a conflict of interest in the movie rental system vm already have in place.
EDIT:
Something i think we will see VM start to do possibly in the next 2 years is introduce a buy and keep option where you can purchase movies or shows and download them to your set top box or computer, i think this may be introduced shortly after the new Tivo is launched.

Curzon is on VM. The buy and keep solution is mentioned in the VM questionnaire reproduced in the Which? blog so looks likely.

TAZMANUK 09-04-2016 10:31

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I was hoping in the list they would be that the new box would have wifi to connect other tivos up to as i hate my powerlines lol

passingbat 09-04-2016 10:40

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35831582)
Amazon video do offer latest movies to rent this is why for now i see vm not wanting them due to a conflict of interest in the movie rental system vm already have in place.
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But the free Prime videos, which are what most Prime members use, video wise, would be in the same category as the Netflix videos. Therefore, that part could be implemented with no conflicting issues.

OLD BOY 09-04-2016 10:57

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35831590)
But the free Prime videos, which are what most Prime members use, video wise, would be in the same category as the Netflix videos. Therefore, that part could be implemented with no conflicting issues.

Agreed. Some time ago, VM approached Amazon to discuss getting them onto the Tivo, but Amazon could not commit to that at the time. However, we've moved on since then and maybe subsequent talks have been positive. I certainly hope so as this will be a good USP for Virgin compared with Sky's offering.

theone2k10 09-04-2016 14:29

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35831590)
But the free Prime videos, which are what most Prime members use, video wise, would be in the same category as the Netflix videos. Therefore, that part could be implemented with no conflicting issues.

Very true i can't see there being any issue with that part of Amazon instant video being on vm.


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