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harry_hitch 20-12-2014 08:50
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35747698)
Simple answer - rights Amazon have the streaming rights and surprise surprise they are charging extra for it.
This is why i prefer Netflix over Amazon with Netflix you see a show on it's service and you can watch that show aslong as you're a subscriber with Amazon some shows are included in your subscription some are ppv.
That does wind me up, I can understand they charge for the Atlantic stuff and also the pay tv stuff, but that was FTA. It's like Sky Sports and Movies, blatant profiteering. It's not right, but alas it is good business sense.:mad: Thankfully they don't charge extra on the lovefilm by post service. I may have to wait a little longer to get them, but at least I am not being ripped off by amazon this way. It astonishes me how much money we (me included) all spend on TV. I don't watch three quarters of the channels, but I continue pay the money because I have become a HD snob.:(.

theone2k10 20-12-2014 11:25
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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35747706)
That does wind me up, I can understand they charge for the Atlantic stuff and also the pay tv stuff, but that was FTA. It's like Sky Sports and Movies, blatant profiteering. It's not right, but alas it is good business sense.:mad: Thankfully they don't charge extra on the lovefilm by post service. I may have to wait a little longer to get them, but at least I am not being ripped off by amazon this way. It astonishes me how much money we (me included) all spend on TV. I don't watch three quarters of the channels, but I continue pay the money because I have become a HD snob.:(.
I re-subscribed to Amazon instant video paid the £5.99 no surprise within 2 weeks i issued my cancellation request it just isn't doing it for me. Netflix is miles ahead especially when combined with a smart dns.
Amazon instant video USA isn't much cop either, i'm fortunate to know a friend in the USA who created a login for me on their cable service so i can access HBOGO which turned up this week on the firetv too made my Christmas lol.

Mad Max 20-12-2014 12:30
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35747698)
Simple answer - rights Amazon have the streaming rights and surprise surprise they are charging extra for it.
This is why i prefer Netflix over Amazon with Netflix you see a show on it's service and you can watch that show aslong as you're a subscriber with Amazon some shows are included in your subscription some are ppv.
I take this to mean that they have those rights for it to be screened here in the UK? If so how come Netflix couldn't get it to air in the UK, surely they must have as many customers here as they have in other european countries?

cimt 20-12-2014 12:33
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Amazon would of payed for exclusive streaming rights.

passingbat 20-12-2014 16:22
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35747716)
I take this to mean that they have those rights for it to be screened here in the UK? If so how come Netflix couldn't get it to air in the UK, surely they must have as many customers here as they have in other european countries?
Don't forget ITV's role in this. They probably calculated that they could make more money on the digital version by selling it via Amazon (with Amazon taking a cut, or Amazon paying such a high price that they had to charge for it) than the lump sum that Netflix was prepared to pay for the UK rights.

muppetman11 20-12-2014 16:59
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35747698)
Simple answer - rights Amazon have the streaming rights and surprise surprise they are charging extra for it.
This is why i prefer Netflix over Amazon with Netflix you see a show on it's service and you can watch that show aslong as you're a subscriber with Amazon some shows are included in your subscription some are ppv.
I'm willing to bet that isn't the reason , Amazon have the PPV rights as do Blinkbox , the subscription rights are a completely different thing its more likely its availability on ITV Encore/On Demand is the issue.

theone2k10 20-12-2014 18:51
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35747739)
I'm willing to bet that isn't the reason , Amazon have the PPV rights as do Blinkbox , the subscription rights are a completely different thing its more likely its availability on ITV Encore/On Demand is the issue.
Very good point.

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OLD BOY 21-12-2014 13:00
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35747739)
I'm willing to bet that isn't the reason , Amazon have the PPV rights as do Blinkbox , the subscription rights are a completely different thing its more likely its availability on ITV Encore/On Demand is the issue.
I think that is the most plausible reason, MM. I would imagine that once ITV Encore stop relying on repeats from ITV and start broadcasting original material, Broadchurch will be more generally available and that's when it will appear on Netflix.

I certainly wouldn't blame Amazon for the charge. This is likely to be the only way they could get the programme added to their catalogue. Netflix could have done the same.

passingbat 21-12-2014 15:00
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35747802)
Netflix could have done the same.
No they couldn't; that is not the premise of how Netflix operates and I hope that never changes.

theone2k10 21-12-2014 15:05
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35747827)
No they couldn't; that is not the premise of how Netflix operates and I hope that never changes.
The only thing Netflix may add and this is only a very very slight chance off happening is their dvd rental service, with Amazon being the only one left in the uk to offer dvd rental by post Netflix may consider bringing their dvd by post rental to the uk, very unlikely though.

passingbat 21-12-2014 15:13
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35747829)
very unlikely though.
Agreed; I think they would probably ditch the US DVD rental if they could.

OLD BOY 22-12-2014 18:02
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35747827)
No they couldn't; that is not the premise of how Netflix operates and I hope that never changes.
Agreed, but that is their choice. They could if they wanted to. The sad fact is that if programmes like this are to appear, the only way will be shown for the time being is by pay per view.

passingbat 22-12-2014 19:19
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35747989)
the only way will be shown for the time being is by pay per view.
Or via Netflix and a smart DNS service...

theone2k10 22-12-2014 21:49
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35748013)
Or via Netflix and a smart DNS service...
We keep telling people about smart dns mate it keeps falling on deaf ears.

harry_hitch 22-12-2014 23:31
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35748068)
We keep telling people about smart dns mate it keeps falling on deaf ears.
I think people see it is a grey area between right and wrong. I certainly do. I could pay for the content, but the laws of the relevant countries say it is wrong for me to do so. So I choose not to. I don't judge anyone for doing it, it is just not for me.


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