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sherer 30-11-2009 17:25
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read that Ibrahimovich was 60m for Barca and although a decent player don't think he is worth that match. Not got Sky any more so not seen him play for Barca yet.

Poborsky was overated too plus Nani and plenty of other rubbish we have signed. Berba doesn't have a great record for his price tag either

Shadow Demon UK 30-11-2009 18:00
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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34918402)
read that Ibrahimovich was 60m for Barca and although a decent player don't think he is worth that match. Not got Sky any more so not seen him play for Barca yet.

Poborsky was overated too plus Nani and plenty of other rubbish we have signed. Berba doesn't have a great record for his price tag either
Ibrahimovic was and still is a quality player, he's scored 8 goals in 10 games for Barca and scored another great goal against Madrid last night. He's nowhere near as overpriced as Tevez was.

I'm talking about him being overpriced, not overrated.

SB_07 30-11-2009 22:41
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Fifa will decide on Wednesday how to punish Thierry Henry over his controversial handball against the Republic of Ireland as part of a wide-ranging disciplinary crackdown that could include the introduction of five match officials at next year's World Cup.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...atter-handball

Turkey Machine 30-11-2009 23:39
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Nothing short of a lifetime ban for the dirty cheating bas......

Oh wait, FIFA deciding. Some meaningless fine and possibly a suspended ban.

Damien 30-11-2009 23:48
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Originally Posted by Turkey Machine (Post 34918702)
Nothing short of a lifetime ban for the dirty cheating bas......

Oh wait, FIFA deciding. Some meaningless fine and possibly a suspended ban.
Yes Lifetime ban isn't overreacting is it :rolleyes: Ireland have been milking this. They asked for an extra place at the World Cup Finals!! Crazy talk.

punky 01-12-2009 00:21
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Come on, even I think a ban is extreme. For he ref maybe, but not Henry.

arcamalpha2004 01-12-2009 12:58
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Originally Posted by punky (Post 34918751)
Come on, even I think a ban is extreme. For he ref maybe, but not Henry.

Got to agree Punky, maybe a ban for the ref, but then did he see it?
If we want to start handing out lifetime bans on players using parts of their body to influence a game it is too late.
The list of " guilty " players is endless, Roy Caroll for example, blatantly scooped the ball out of the net for a perfectly good goal.
One thing they can do though is bring in video technology, literally seconds it would take to take the decision out of the refs hands, which in fairness sometimes are tied.

punky 01-12-2009 15:01
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Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004 (Post 34918951)
maybe a ban for the ref, but then did he see it?
My argument is that he has to. If he didn't see it then his positioning isn't good enough to be a ref. I know that's harsh for humans who can make mistakes but the stakes we are talking about are immense.

We need video. Every game-changing even is proceeded with a break in play so it won't turn out like rugby or cricket. I can't understand why FIFA and UEFA are so resistant to it.

If Henry was banned for this, we would start seeing a lot more ball-to-hands happening. It wasn't overtly deliberate, although ethically he should have informed the ref, and would have been decent of him if he did. Unstandably he didn't but he is under no technical impetus to do. I can't see why he would need to be punished.

Damien 01-12-2009 15:18
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Originally Posted by punky (Post 34919005)
My argument is that he has to. If he didn't see it then his positioning isn't good enough to be a ref. I know that's harsh for humans who can make mistakes but the stakes we are talking about are immense..
The fact is though that when that amount of bodies pile into the box, a quick motion like that will be very easily missed. We saw it from one of the many cameras and in slow montion. Stand 6/8 yard backs, chuck bodies in the way, and then it happens so quickly then I doubt anyone would have seen it. The goal line assistants would also have trouble if they were on the wrong side of the goal! Which is why.....

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We need video. Every game-changing even is proceeded with a break in play so it won't turn out like rugby or cricket. I can't understand why FIFA and UEFA are so resistant to it.
Yup.

Pog66 01-12-2009 16:22
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Originally Posted by punky (Post 34919005)
My argument is that he has to. If he didn't see it then his positioning isn't good enough to be a ref.
The Sunday Times (or one of the paper's I saw) had a diagram showing posutioning of officials & players when Henry handled and the views of the officials were all to varying degrees obstructed - would seem harsh to judge the referee when players are obvously moving all the time

TheDaddy 01-12-2009 17:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by punky (Post 34919005)
My argument is that he has to. If he didn't see it then his positioning isn't good enough to be a ref. I know that's harsh for humans who can make mistakes but the stakes we are talking about are immense.

We need video. Every game-changing even is proceeded with a break in play so it won't turn out like rugby or cricket. I can't understand why FIFA and UEFA are so resistant to it.

If Henry was banned for this, we would start seeing a lot more ball-to-hands happening. It wasn't overtly deliberate, although ethically he should have informed the ref, and would have been decent of him if he did. Unstandably he didn't but he is under no technical impetus to do. I can't see why he would need to be punished.
I don't think we need video, what we need is for footballers to be accountable for their actions, Henry should be banned and miss the World Cup, guarantee you wouldn't see a repeat of that incident if players were properly punished, same with diving.

Saaf_laandon_mo 01-12-2009 17:59
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34919080)
I don't think we need video, what we need is for footballers to be accountable for their actions, Henry should be banned and miss the World Cup, guarantee you wouldn't see a repeat of that incident if players were properly punished, same with diving.
I agree. Henry knew he handled the ball at the time he did it. There is also conclusive proof he used his hand to control the ball. He even admitted he handled it after but it was "up to the referee" to penalise him. He shouldnt be allowed to play in the World Cup. Ban a cheat for the next 3 games in the competition that he's cheated in, and there'd be a lot less of it happening.

Niles Crane 01-12-2009 19:36
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Why exactly should Henry be made the example out of? If Trinidad and Tobago bitch and whine enough, can they get Peter Crouch banned too?

If footballers are to be accountable for their actions, the consequences of their actions must be known beforehand. If Henry is to be retrospectively punished, his punishment should be exactly the same as if the referee had spotted the handball during the match.

Mal 01-12-2009 23:20
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Does anyone know why Darron Gibson was being booed for the utd v spurs match tonight? :confused:

Nugget 01-12-2009 23:47
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As much as we're going to get either Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal or Man City in the semis, it might be worth a sneaky fiver on Villa for the League Cup - fingers crossed, we'll come up against a bunch of kids in the semis ;)


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