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TheDaddy 11-09-2007 11:17

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 34394036)
That's the thing - there's various bits here that just don't add up, for either argument - the abduction, or the 'murder' - both seem possible, but there are holes in both theories, and questions that just remain unanswered.

Exactly

Mr_love_monkey 11-09-2007 11:20

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34394039)
Exactly

exactly :)

and they haven't helped themselves by not giving clear details on what did and didn't happen that night, so to people it looks like they are lying and/or hiding something, which makes people question everything they say/do

slug 11-09-2007 12:46

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
There is an incredibable piece of jounalism in The independent by Dominic Lawson.
http://comment.independent.co.uk/col...cle2950327.ece

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Her (Kate McCann) fellow Liverpudlian , the mother of the murdered 11- year-old, Rhys Jones, fed this media-led monster with the requisite heart-rending sobs at a series of press-conferences.
The Independent may come to regret that.

XFS03 11-09-2007 12:59

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
The Daily Mail are claiming that it was large quantities of Madeleine's hair that was found in the car.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...e_id=1811&ct=5


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Damien 11-09-2007 13:12

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by slug (Post 34394063)
There is an incredibable piece of jounalism in The independent by Dominic Lawson.
http://comment.independent.co.uk/col...cle2950327.ece



The Independent may come to regret that.

Bah, The Independent is a joke of a newspaper now anyway. They are pretty much the Daily Mail for the left. It's incredible how biased they are and how they somehow think that their belief they are right means its ok.

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Originally Posted by XFS03 (Post 34394072)
The Daily Mail are claiming that it was large quantities of Madeleine's hair that was found in the car.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...e_id=1811&ct=5


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I forgot about the rumored phone calls between McCanns that suggested she was dead. It's looking worse for them, the police seem to be convinced now and they seem to have a lot of different reasons. If the hair thing is true then despite what the McCanns say, i dont see how hair from a missing person can be 'planted'.

Osem 11-09-2007 13:17

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34394077)
If the hair thing is true then despite what the McCanns say, i dont see how hair from a missing person can be 'planted'.

This is all speculatiion but it'd be easy, from a hairbrush say.

Damien 11-09-2007 13:21

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34394081)
This is all speculation but it'd be easy, from a hairbrush say.

True, but how likely is that. Depends on what the police mean by substantial.

etccarmageddon 11-09-2007 13:27

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
That independent article comment re the mother of Rhys Jones, is vile and disgusting.

Osem 11-09-2007 13:30

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34394082)
True, but how likely is that. Depends on what the police mean by substantial.

It's only remotely likely if the story that the Police are framing the McCann's is true (which I don't believe). However, they'd have access to items just like that as evidence and judging by the volume of the poor girl's hair from pictures I'd say there'd be plenty in her hairbrush unless her parents cleaned it every day. I think it's safe to assume that the definition of 'substantial' in forensic terms is probably quite different from that which would apply in normal circumstances.

Damien 11-09-2007 13:58

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34394088)
It's only remotely likely if the story that the Police are framing the McCann's is true (which I don't believe). However, they'd have access to items just like that as evidence and judging by the volume of the poor girl's hair from pictures I'd say there'd be plenty in her hairbrush unless her parents cleaned it every day. I think it's safe to assume that the definition of 'substantial' in forensic terms is probably quite different from that which would apply in normal circumstances.

I guess, Cant be sure whats going on. I don't believe they are being framed either though.

Mr_love_monkey 11-09-2007 14:29

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
The trouble I have with the hair, is that it seems like a mighty big flamingo up (like a cock up, but bigger) on their part.
She's died, one way or another, they managed to hide the body, convince friends etc, either to go along with it, or are able to fool them. They call the police and so on - hide the body well enough so that it's not found, all without panicking obviously, and then 5 weeks later, go off, get the body, take it somewhere else, hide it again, all without getting caught.... and then they leave a mass of hair in the car.

If it had been blood, fair enough, traces of that remain no matter how hard they clean, but a wodge of hair?

Damien 11-09-2007 14:32

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Very Bizarre....

Saaf_laandon_mo 11-09-2007 14:39

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
I think they need to call CSI in Vegas, and if Grissom's busy then Im sure Horatio would be free to take a trip down to the algarve.

If those guys cant solve this then no one will.

Mr_love_monkey 11-09-2007 14:55

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by slug (Post 34394063)
There is an incredibable piece of jounalism in The independent by Dominic Lawson.
http://comment.independent.co.uk/col...cle2950327.ece

The Independent may come to regret that.

Whilst I don't think it's the best way to have put it, he has a point.
People would be more believing of her if she was breaking down in tears, distraught - and if you're not pouring your grief out on (inter)national tv, then there's something wrong.

Xaccers 11-09-2007 15:57

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Just imagine the state a body would be in after 25 days.
The smell, the decay, the greasy smears left around.


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