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The tabloid press introduced the term as a disparaging way of describing trade union leaders meeting the PM at 10 Downing Street. The idea being that they couldn’t tolerate lunch at a table with a knife and fork and (supposedly) demanded the fayre they would expect at their working men’s club back home.

It’s a crude class stereotype, whether it has any basis in fact as far as negotiations in Downing Street in the 1970s are concerned, I have no idea. It certainly would have no basis in fact now. Trade unions, based on their recent public pronouncements at least, have largely abandoned working people in favour of faddish identitarian causes.

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I had a look on full fact and he does appear to have realised that scrapping the NHS would make him a pariah, bit like how brexit should've made him one once his lies were fully exposed but I'm still not convinced as when the Conservatives invited private insurance companies over a couple of years back they weren't the much vaunted European ones farage is now so impressed by it was American ones so you can see the direction of travel they were looking at

How else do you work it out other than by value of assets, pension pots and ready cash? Are you really saying that someone sitting in an asset worth that much deserves government help from taxes paid by younger people who have most likely no house or the prospect of ever buying one, I call bs on that and perhaps this quote is more apt than I first thought, especially if you take NHS out and insert government

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Trump is holding a press conference at 3pm to about this UK-US trade deal.

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'Beautiful' trade deal

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He needs something to wave around , big build up, bigger let down , enjoy the spin.:shocked:

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The only trade deal as no one else is talking to him cos he's nuts

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So, ignoring the taxes paid by the home (asset) owner, all their lives….I’ll park that.

So you’re suggesting that all those people within the M25 (and not just there) whose homes have appreciated over the years (but only in line with all the properties around them), what? They should sell? And move where? Up North? Rural Wales?

BTW selling those properties won’t make them any cheaper for younger people.

Your assessment is naive, envious and just ignorant

I call BS on you and your Jealous, envious, entitled attitude.

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I'm not jealous or entitled, I've just sold my flat inside the M25, I wasn't entitled enough to expect other people to heat it for me either.

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Your response suggest otherwise.

Hooray! And? What exactly is your point. Did you make a profit? How much? Are you now moving to Stockton, as I expect you think everyone should do.

Did you invest in the property and maximise your return, or just leave it and take the market increase?

Good, don’t know why you might expect other people to heat your house anyway.

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Point is that when your rather ugly personality makes things personal you're usually wrong about the persons character or motives you're attacking, just like you have been here. We disagree that people with over a million quid in cash or assets should be getting state help, big deal.

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From the "Trade Deal" document...

https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files...20rev%20v2.pdf

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is that the same as "not worth the paper it's written on"

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:bsmack::clap::clap: :clap:

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They are always what they accuse you of.

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