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Where in the agreement does it say anything specific about chilled meat and even parcels?
As I've previously pointed out, it doesn't say anything specific, just that the details are up to the Joint Committee. GB and NI are in the SAME customs territory. That IS in the agreement, and as such there can't be different rules for GB and NI. WTO rules state that different customs rules=separate customs territories=full WTO tariffs between those territories(ie between GB & NI).
Why on earth are the EU objecting to parcels between GB and NI?:mad: The bigger food safety threat, is and always has been, from the EU, Eg Horse meat masquerading as Beef.

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What is meant to be the difference between exporting to the UK and any other non-EU country?:confused:

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Is that Cummings chap still popping up on telly? :D

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Meh, not much of a trade war really is it? The June 1st deadline to align Northern Ireland with the EU single market for food has been there since day 1. The Telegraph probably needs to take this up with whatever numpty agreed to this being an issue in the first place...

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As below, David Frost agreed to align NI with the EU for food with effect from this month. It's a kind of Yes Minister situation when he criticises his own agreement. :dunce::D

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Where in the Protocol(ie this International agreement that people keep going on about) does it specify that? It doesn't as I've previously pointed out. Any difficulties are whatever the EU decides they are going to be, as part of the Joint Committee.
That is before you get into the fact that the Withdrawal Agreement as a whole(including Protocols) is only meant to be an interim measure. That is set out in the International Agreement that is the Lisbon Treaty(ie EUs own rules). A Protocol to an Agreement expires when the Agreement itself expires. The Protocol is not a separate and distinct Agreement.

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Your first sentence is incorrect making any conclusions drawn from it inherently flawed. Sausages could not be sent to the EU six months ago as they are categorised as very high risk.

The grace period to permit such products into NI ended this month having been extended from 1 January. David Frost put his name to the very such agreement which he is now criticising.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...orth-1.4417805

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It's not like the government didn't know this as we were part of the EU when the rules were written up in the first place. As soon as it was decided to leave the single market and abandon regulatory alignment, this was always going to happen. I'm not sure why the government is upset about this unless they thought they would be able to blag their way around single market rules.

If you leave the single market, that's what happens - leave means leave and all that.

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Where in the EU rules does it say that they control movement of goods within a non-EU country or between non-EU countries? They don't even control movement of goods within the EU.

It's only when any goods are marketed etc inside the EU that they have a say. A business in the EU, can manufacture goods that don't meet EU rules, as long as they don't market them in the EU.

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And Leave means the EU can't tell us what we can and can't ship between GB and NI. This is NOT about trade with the EU, but the EU controlling trade within the UK.

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I think you must have forgotten that the UK agreed a separate arrangement to keep NI within many aspects of the European Single Market. This is to ensure there was no physical border between NI and RoI. Some have described it as a border in the Irish Sea.

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The Protocol is part of the WA. The WA has ended.
The EU agreed to maintain the GB-NI customs union and single market.
There is NOTHING in the EU single market that says they can control goods within a non-EU state.

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Why do you think David Frost is getting so worked up about a bit of paper he signed and is now regretting it? Just for the hell of it? Clearly not! He knows what he agreed to in the Northern Ireland protocol, even if you don't.
As a reminder, the grace period allowing imports of sausages and other chilled meats from Great Britain to Northern Ireland (they're usually required to be frozen when they enter the single market) is set to expire at the end of this month. That's a UK concern. EU concerns include Britain failing to implement basic parts of the new arrangements, including building and staffing border control posts for goods.

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The ONLY thing in the NI Protocol is that many issues, including parcels from GB:rolleyes:, have to be agreed by the Joint Committee. Absolutely nothing in there about blocking movement of goods and items. If the EU decides to NOT come to an agreement on the various issues, then THEY are breaking the agreement.

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