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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35893692)

They will have been warned well in advance. What the leaders say in public and what goes on behind the scenes are different things. I sense Putin is getting a bit fed up with Assad, the Russian response hasn't been outright outrage. All very difficult though, both sides are nasty pieces of work in Syria, the innocent civilians inbetween.

Either I'm misinformed or as usual you only read what you want to be informed of.

There are 3 sides involved.

Government forces.

Rebel forces.

ISIS.

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http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=46641107

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Syrian military officials appeared to anticipate Thursday night's raid on Syria's Shayrat air base, evacuating personnel and moving equipment ahead of the strike, according to an eyewitness.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35893713)

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=46641107

And ? Thanks for posting a link with no explanation.

But, you appear to have missed the well known memo, which says the Trump Team warned Russia of the cruise strikes in advance, therefore it's safe to assume then that Russia warned Syria.

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to destroy the air base :shrug:

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The US is looking into if Russia were involved in the gas attack. http://bigstory.ap.org/article/4004f...-resolve-syria

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35893715)

It was for information, not confrontation.

I believed the article was self-explanatory, therefore needed no commentary.

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Syrians hail Donald Trump as their new champion: Abu Ivanka al-Amriki

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...nka-al-amriki/

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Doesn't look like Trump's actions during the early hours, has upset China's President.

U.S Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson has just confirmed President Trump has accepted an Invitation to China from President XI Jinping, China's President says he understood the U.S response to the chemical attacks in Syria because children had died.

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35893730)

Doesn't look like Trump's actions during the early hours, has upset China's President.

Looks like Nigel Farage is though. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7671986.html

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35893733)

Looks like Nigel Farage is though. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7671986.html

Oh dear, Nige and the Donald have fallen out. It won't be over Syria, it'll be over a golfing invite or maybe Nige has been overlooked for the Palace dinner....
tbf this is the first good thing Trump has done.

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35893735)

Great to see some of those nutters around the world like Le Pen being wrong-sided by Trump's actions. And encouraging to see Trump carrying out Obama's policies be it leaving the successful Obamacare in place or bombing Syria when it crossed the red line on the use of chemical weapons. Just a shame Congress did not allow Obama to do this when he was in power.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35893737)

Pleased he has done what he has done but he does need to reflect on his previous comments

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...hemical-attack

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35893737)

Great to see some of those nutters around the world like Le Pen being wrong-sided by Trump's actions. And encouraging to see Trump carrying out Obama's policies be it leaving the successful Obamacare in place or bombing Syria when it crossed the red line on the use of chemical weapons. Just a shame Congress did not allow Obama to do this when he was in power.

Obama failed to carry out his 'red line' threat.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35893733)

Looks like Nigel Farage is though. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7671986.html

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35893735)

Oh dear, Nige and the Donald have fallen out. .

They have a disagreement on a single policy; get real for goodness sake! A job awaits both of you at CNN.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35893737)

Nice try but Obamacare is not successful, as already pointed out several times.

As for the rest of your post. Obama did not need Congressional approval to begin with, back in 2013, after Assad first used chemical weapons against his own people, he could have gone down the route Trump just has by going down the War Powers Resolution Act of 1973, which so long as the current sitting President notifies congress of his committed military action within 48 hours, the President does not need Congressional Authorization.

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The War Powers Resolution requires the President to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without a Congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States. The resolution was passed by two-thirds of Congress, overriding a presidential veto.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution

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On the evening of 6 April (2017), under the War Powers Resolution, Trump notified the U.S. Congress of his plan on the missile strike.[9] According to a White House official, over 24 members of the Congress were briefed at the time.[9] Internationally, the United States also notified several countries, including Canada, Australia, and Russia, in advance of the strike.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_S...missile_strike

The bottom line is as history recalls, In 2012, Obama drew a line warning Assad of using chemical weapons, Assad crossed it, with a chemical attack in 2013 and Obama, the US and pretty much the rest of the world did nothing, including ourselves.

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Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 35893663)

So, Mr Putin. Where was your mega hi-tech air defence system that can track targets as small as your wiener, shoot down cruise missiles AND make the coffee?

Have a nice day

Apparently the system has been weakened due to the amount of territory government forces lost in the war but they're going to beef it up now or so the Russians say.

Several things have struck me about this whole episode

Why did assad use chemical weapons, he's winning the war it makes no sense to anyone remotely sane, which might be the answer right there

It was a shame that a small presence had to be left on the base to guard it after it was evacuated, 6 more lives sacrificed.

Personally I think the course of action taken was well thought out on all levels, its just irksome ISIS and others like them are celebrating it.