Originally Posted by Jimi (Post 35688663)

Cornwall wants Independence,word is that Yorkshire wants it tae,I might be wrong but the break up will happen eventually,maybe not in my lifetime but it will come.

Originally Posted by Jimi (Post 35688663)

Good tae see you join the debate mate.
I have no worries if there's no plan b simply because we don't need one.
What really sticks in my throat is the utter nonsense that is being spouted by BT.
A few examples,Justine Greening in yesterday's Sunday Times that a yes vote would be a huge blow tae Third World countries,pure nonsense,Scotland ( oh yes we do) donates more per head tae charity than the rest of the U.K.
I won't even start on that ******** of a man? George Robertson,a Lord? Aye right!!!
Passports to enter England,Currency,no chance,we're not getting it,blah blah blah,yes we are.
Trident,you can have it,thank you.
We'd lose tv shows,wow,the **** that comes from the BBC,you can have that tae.
Roaming charges,the guy who thought that up needs tae be certified and licked up for life.
I could go on and on,the list is endless but what I will say is that many folk in Scotland are disheartened by the fact that no matter whether NL or Tories are in power everything is based in London,money wise.
Cornwall wants Independence,word is that Yorkshire wants it tae,I might be wrong but the break up will happen eventually,maybe not in my lifetime but it will come.

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35688695)

Jimi's just articulated the SNP's new referendum slogan:

"Plan B? We haven't got a Plan A!"

:D

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35688671)

It won't happen. When your lot and ours were offered devolution and all we managed was a glorified town council (the Welsh Assembly) it was rumoured that back then that for some reason Yorkshire wanted its own assembly, followed by some other regions. It didn't materialise in those days and it won't now.

In all seriousness, you're clearly very confident of a Yes result but have you actually considered what you (personally, not the Scots) will do if it's a 'no'? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm genuinely interested. I'm sure even AS has some sort of contingency plan. If it doesn't go your way I'm hoping you'll accept the result and not look to blame any sort of conspiracy etc, I'm fairly certain enough people have access to the internet to check on whatever claims are being made and judge for themselves if they're real.

If it turns out as a 'no' (I'm not too bothered either way but I think I'd prefer a United Kingdom) it's unlikely another vote will be allowed for many years, decades even. What will you do in the meantime?

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35688683)

Yes men really don't listen do they? You've been told a few times. Ow the the pound won't be kept and that Scotland will have different taxes and rates.

Scotland would be a separate Country so they could require border checks to enter England Ireland and Wales.

Also don't be silly. Everything needs a plan B. Fat Alex doesn't even have a proper plan A.

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35688695)

Jimi's just articulated the SNP's new referendum slogan:

"Plan B? We haven't got a Plan A!"

:D

Originally Posted by Jimi (Post 35688799)

Stephen,seriously,the pound WILL be kept as our currancy

Originally Posted by Jimi (Post 35688799)

Stephen,seriously,the pound WILL be kept as our currancy,border checks,you cannot be serious,without being cheeky,i'm beginning tae think you are out of your depth on this subject

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35688808)

Except the SNP plan involves Scotland being part of the EU, being a new EU member involves accepting the Euro. Forgetting for a second that even the most optimistic fiscal outlook for iScotland would make it in-illegible for euro membership why would they accept an opt out?

Of course if Salmond actually has any hard and fast evidence that this would happen he could publish it.

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35688808)

Except the SNP plan involves Scotland being part of the EU, being a new EU member involves accepting the Euro. Forgetting for a second that even the most optimistic fiscal outlook for iScotland would make it in-illegible for euro membership why would they accept an opt out?

Of course if Salmond actually has any hard and fast evidence that this would happen he could publish it.

Originally Posted by Jimi (Post 35688826)

The Little Englanders are more than welcome tae move out of the EU,that's their prerogative,me,I'd rather stay in it despite the amount of money that has been stolen but is it any worse than what England has stolen from Scotland,I don't think so.

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35688822)

[/COLOR]I'm sorry but what????? So despite proof and confirmation from the Bank of England, Westminster and other sources that they WILL NOT enter into a currency union with an IScotland, you still think there will be? I fail to understand your logic and also claims that I am out of my depth. Unlike you I am 100% Scottish and fully understand.

As for the border checks, they could happen.

Honestly you just sound like Salmond, refusing to accept the facts and also failing to back up your claims with facts or even a plan B.

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This!!

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35688829)

So you want to leave the UK but yet remain in the EU? Thats just plain daft. especially as an IScotland wouldn't be allowed to join the EU.

Also those stories yet again do not have any stories or evidence to back up or confirm any of the Yes campaigns so called 'plans' all you are doing is trying to shift the focus away from the fact that there are no actual plans.

Originally Posted by Jimi (Post 35688831)

Stephen,forget what Alistair Carmichael said,Scotland will be like a shareholder once we gain Independence.
Btw,

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Scotland has every right to rejoin the EU,this will happen once we break free,sadly if we are still stuck with the rest of the UK then we'll need tae accept it.

Originally Posted by Jimi (Post 35688831)

Scotland has every right to rejoin the EU,this will happen once we break free,sadly if we are still stuck with the rest of the UK then we'll need tae accept it.