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denphone 25-03-2020 08:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36028861)
Hayu is just intolerable rubbish to my mind. Hopefully, Virgin will replace it with something much better. Disney+ to top end viewers, perhaps, free of extra charge?
Not a chance of it being free of charge as streaming companies are not charities you know.

OLD BOY 25-03-2020 09:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36028864)
Not a chance of it being free of charge as streaming companies are not charities you know.
If Virgin can do it for Hayu, why not for Disney +? Ok, maybe not free of charge, but they could apply a discount equal to the value of Hayu.

All I'm saying is that it is an option which would counter Sky's hype about 'exclusive integration' which to my mind is of marginal benefit to the viewer.

Hugh 25-03-2020 10:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36028868)
If Virgin can do it for Hayu, why not for Disney +? Ok, maybe not free of charge, but they could apply a discount equal to the value of Hayu.

All I'm saying is that it is an option which would counter Sky's hype about 'exclusive integration' which to my mind is of marginal benefit to the viewer.
Do you mean the service that was included at no extra cost for all new and existing TV XL TiVo customers?

Legendkiller2k 25-03-2020 10:59
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36028861)
Hayu is just intolerable rubbish to my mind. Hopefully, Virgin will replace it with something much better. Disney+ to top end viewers, perhaps, free of extra charge?
Ok OB you're getting a bit silly now mate.

OLD BOY 25-03-2020 11:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36028886)
Do you mean the service that was included at no extra cost for all new and existing TV XL TiVo customers?
It was no extra cost to viewers, but clearly, Virgin must have paid Hayu.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36028887)
Ok OB you're getting a bit silly now mate.
Why would that be silly? Who is paying Hayu? Presumably Virgin, out of subscription receipts.

Why would you say Virgin would not top up our fees with the same contribution? It would be a good selling point for Virgin, whereas Hayu was of limited value.

denphone 25-03-2020 12:04
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36028909)

Why would you say Virgin would not top up our fees with the same contribution? It would be a good selling point for Virgin, whereas Hayu was of limited value.
It might have been of limited value to you l suspect it was not of limited value to some women but still one size fits all seems to be your modus operandi.

Hugh 25-03-2020 12:31
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36028909)
It was no extra cost to viewers, but clearly, Virgin must have paid Hayu.

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Why would that be silly? Who is paying Hayu? Presumably Virgin, out of subscription receipts.

Why would you say Virgin would not top up our fees with the same contribution? It would be a good selling point for Virgin, whereas Hayu was of limited value.
Thats an assumption, whilst my statement was a fact. ;)

It still appears you were asking for a credit for something you weren’t paying extra for...

OLD BOY 25-03-2020 13:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36028912)
It might have been of limited value to you l suspect it was not of limited value to some women but still one size fits all seems to be your modus operandi.
It was of limited value to most people, Den. I don't doubt that some women would have liked it. But overall, Hayu is not the most popular of apps.

Even my wife, who likes programming from TLC and Quest Red, gave this a wide berth.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36028921)
Thats an assumption, whilst my statement was a fact. ;)

It still appears you were asking for a credit for something you weren’t paying extra for...
Hugh, you're not getting what I was saying.

Hayu was provided to top end Virgin Media viewers 'at no extra cost'. However, Virgin must have paid Hayu for their streamer, and where the money came from doesn't matter. All I am saying is that if Virgin could do this for Hayu, surely they must be able to do it for Disney+.

They could either provide Disney to VM viewers on the top package for no extra charge, or they could provide it on a subsidised basis. It would pay for itself, surely, with the extra subscribers that would attract.

If Sky can discount Netflix by pairing it with Sky Box Sets and taking money off, so can Virgin come to an arrangement that suits its operation.

RichardCoulter 25-03-2020 13:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36028921)
Thats an assumption, whilst my statement was a fact. ;)

It still appears you were asking for a credit for something you weren’t paying extra for...
At the end of the day, customers were paying for it, albeit it wasn't seperately itemised.

It's similar to the same argument that BT Sports isn't free to Full House customers.

OLD BOY 25-03-2020 13:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36028938)
At the end of the day, customers were paying for it, albeit it wasn't seperately itemised.

It's similar to the same argument that BT Sports isn't free to Full House customers.
I don't deny that, Richard, but it was a hidden extra. As I said, it matters not how VM funded it, that money would be better used going towards Disney +.

pip08456 25-03-2020 13:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36028924)

Hugh, you're not getting what I was saying.

Hayu was provided to top end Virgin Media viewers 'at no extra cost'. However, Virgin must have paid Hayu for their streamer, and where the money came from doesn't matter. All I am saying is that if Virgin could do this for Hayu, surely they must be able to do it for Disney+.

They could either provide Disney to VM viewers on the top package for no extra charge, or they could provide it on a subsidised basis. It would pay for itself, surely, with the extra subscribers that would attract.

If Sky can discount Netflix by pairing it with Sky Box Sets and taking money off, so can Virgin come to an arrangement that suits its operation.
That would depend on the agreement in place between SKY and Disney+.

Legendkiller2k 25-03-2020 13:33
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36028909)
It was no extra cost to viewers, but clearly, Virgin must have paid Hayu.

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Why would that be silly? Who is paying Hayu? Presumably Virgin, out of subscription receipts.

Why would you say Virgin would not top up our fees with the same contribution? It would be a good selling point for Virgin, whereas Hayu was of limited value.
As far as i'm aware Disney have absolutely no interest in parterning with anyone, however that's not to say that won't change in the future.

1andrew1 25-03-2020 13:45
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36028938)
At the end of the day, customers were paying for it, albeit it wasn't seperately itemised.

It's similar to the same argument that BT Sports isn't free to Full House customers.
Hayu may have paid VM to get in front of their customers knowing that some of them will stay on and pay separately. However, I suspect that Comcast owning Sky and Hayu means that Hayu will channel any promotional deals towards Sky and not VM in the future.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36028861)
Hayu is just intolerable rubbish to my mind. Hopefully, Virgin will replace it with something much better. Disney+ to top end viewers, perhaps, free of extra charge?
Maybe they'll give us Sky Atlantic and free beer whilst they're at it. :)

OLD BOY 25-03-2020 13:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36028942)
As far as i'm aware Disney have absolutely no interest in parterning with anyone, however that's not to say that won't change in the future.
I was not suggesting that Disney offers any discount to VM. I was suggesting that VM use the money they were paying Hayu to reduce the cost of Disney + to their top end subscribers.

Or maybe VM might consider bundling all the streamers and offering a discount on that to the value of the Hayu cost. Both Sky and VM are able to offer multiple TV channels at a discount so the same should be happening for a bouquet of streamers. Surely, this would generate more VM subscribers taking the full package, so it would be worth doing this.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36028945)
Hayu may have paid VM to get in front of their customers knowing that some of them will stay on and pay separately. However, I suspect that Comcast owning Sky and Hayu means that Hayu will channel any promotional deals towards Sky and not VM in the future.

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Maybe they'll give us Sky Atlantic and free beer whilst they're at it. :)
On your first post, that was a hell of a long time for Hayu to be offering a freebie to Virgin Media, so I doubt that was the case. Three months maybe, six at a stretch, but no longer than that.

As for Comcast owning Sky and Hayu, that would certainly make perfect sense.

On the second post, I think the beer is more likely at this time! :D

Or maybe Corona lager...

Mad Max 25-03-2020 17:53
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Disney+, big deal....

denphone 25-03-2020 17:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36028983)
Disney+, big deal....
Crikey are you ever happy MM.:D

1andrew1 25-03-2020 18:07
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36028984)
Crikey are you ever happy MM.:D
:D:D:D I thought even MM woud be happy with that launch, even if it's not on VM just yet!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36028949)
I was not suggesting that Disney offers any discount to VM. I was suggesting that VM use the money they were paying Hayu to reduce the cost of Disney + to their top end subscribers.

Or maybe VM might consider bundling all the streamers and offering a discount on that to the value of the Hayu cost. Both Sky and VM are able to offer multiple TV channels at a discount so the same should be happening for a bouquet of streamers. Surely, this would generate more VM subscribers taking the full package, so it would be worth doing this.

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On your first post, that was a hell of a long time for Hayu to be offering a freebie to Virgin Media, so I doubt that was the case. Three months maybe, six at a stretch, but no longer than that.

As for Comcast owning Sky and Hayu, that would certainly make perfect sense.

On the second post, I think the beer is more likely at this time! :D

Or maybe Corona lager...
Yup, you probably have a point about the length of the Hayu deal.
I suspect there's probably some good deals on that particular brand of beer at the moment. They must be cursing the virus having the same name.

denphone 25-03-2020 18:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36028986)
:D:D:D I thought even MM woud be happy with that launch, even if it's not on VM just yet!
Cable Forum's version of Victor Meldrew perhaps.;)

Mad Max 25-03-2020 18:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36028984)
Crikey are you ever happy MM.:D
Oh yes, quite a lot, Den, but I have no interest in kids telly or even bigger kids movies :D

Mad Max 27-03-2020 13:46
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I blame the Mexicans...

Hugh 27-03-2020 14:05
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some pointless niggling/sniping posts removed - if this keeps up, it won’t only be the posts that get removed.

denphone 27-03-2020 19:07
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Well our 3 month pass offer ended today for Now TV and now they have given us another one for £1.80 a month.:)

1andrew1 27-03-2020 19:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36029279)
Well our 3 month pass offer ended today for Now TV and now they have given us another one for £1.80 a month.:)
i think they're doing it to keep you watching Now TV and not swapping it for Disney+. When the marketing for Disney+ dies down, I suspect your discount will too.
Did you have to threaten to leave or did they just offer it to you?

denphone 27-03-2020 19:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36029281)
i think they're doing it to keep you watching Now TV and not swapping it for Disney+. When the marketing for Disney+ dies down, I suspect your discount will too.
Did you have to threaten to leave or did they just offer it to you?
;)

Mad Max 28-03-2020 15:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36029279)
Well our 3 month pass offer ended today for Now TV and now they have given us another one for £1.80 a month.:)

Same here, Den, just shows you what can be offered for a very reasonable price, some other providers should take heed!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36029281)
i think they're doing it to keep you watching Now TV and not swapping it for Disney+. When the marketing for Disney+ dies down, I suspect your discount will too.
Did you have to threaten to leave or did they just offer it to you?
I was just offered it.

Chris 28-03-2020 23:25
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It can’t be offered at that price - not sustainably. They make a calculation about how likely the discount is to retain you in the longer term, eventually at full price. If you’re a good prospect then they give it you for pennies. Supermarkets call it a loss leader. It doesn’t make them any money but it gets you in the door so they can turn a profit off you in the next aisle.

ozsat 29-03-2020 18:25
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The Invisable Man (2020) is currently £9.99 on VM - still £15.99 everywhere else.

Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36028231)
At £15.99 a pop

SonicMaster 29-03-2020 18:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36029531)
The Invisable Man (2020) is currently £9.99 on VM - still £15.99 everywhere else.
With cinemas closing, we've secured some brand new films on current release to watch now on Virgin Movies, and at a reduced price for our customers. These are Emma, The Hunt and The Invisible Man – ideal when the kids are in bed – and Trolls World Tour from April.

https://www.virginmedia.com/help/coronavirus-update

Legendkiller2k 29-03-2020 19:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36029533)
With cinemas closing, we've secured some brand new films on current release to watch now on Virgin Movies, and at a reduced price for our customers. These are Emma, The Hunt and The Invisible Man – ideal when the kids are in bed – and Trolls World Tour from April.

https://www.virginmedia.com/help/coronavirus-update
Well done to VM for catching up with everyone else.

SonicMaster 29-03-2020 19:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36029538)
Well done to VM for catching up with everyone else.
Huh? VM are offering these movies for £6 less than Sky, BT, TalkTalk, Amazon, Rakuten etc so that's not catching up.

Legendkiller2k 29-03-2020 19:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36029540)
Huh? VM are offering these movies for £6 less than Sky, BT, TalkTalk, Amazon, Rakuten etc so that's not catching up.
I was being ironic lol.
Well trying to be :p:

muppetman11 29-03-2020 20:09
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Probably not many takers at full price.

Phunkenstein 29-03-2020 20:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36029545)
Probably not many takers at full price.
And considering that everyone else is still sat at the 15.99 price point I would imagine they’re as good as sacrificing any margins on them as a result - unless the other platforms drop to 9.99 in the next few days, I would be surprised if Virgin are getting a sweetheart deal from Universal.

SnoopZ 31-03-2020 23:24
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7 day free trial available for Disney+ if it hasn't already been posted.

pip08456 01-04-2020 03:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36029881)
7 day free trial available for Disney+ if it hasn't already been posted.
It has, can't remember where though.

Chris 01-04-2020 08:12
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I’m loving Disney+ content but the app’s variable bandwidth management sucks. Netflix, delivers us 1080hd on anything over about 1.75mbps and on our 4K Samsung smart telly (running the app) it looks crystal clear. On Disney, it only gives us that crystal clear look when we have max bandwidth available. I can’t say exactly how much because it doesn’t seem to give you a readout like Netflix does but it is only ever crystal clear late in the evening when the kids aren’t hammering our Wi-fi so it has got to be wanting nearer 3mbps before you get a really good picture. And unlike Netflix the next step down from crystal clear is noticeably mushy, to the point of almost certainly sub-HD.

muppetman11 02-04-2020 12:01
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Amazon Prime allows in-app purchases for Apple users

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52130321

1andrew1 02-04-2020 19:49
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If anyone has another spare £5 a month to spend on telly, AMC's new on-demand service is coming to the UK at the end of the month. No pay-TV providers are mentioned in the device list.

Quote:
AMC’s Acorn TV to launch in UK
Streaming service Acorn TV from AMC Networks is to launch in the UK market.
The premium platform already has one million paid subscribers in the United States where it is known as the “ultimate destination for high-quality, world class dramas, mysteries and comedies”.
Acorn TV will make its debut on April 29, when viewers can take advantage of a 30-day trial.
The service will also be available on your favorite devices, Roku, Fire TV, Android and Apple mobile and Apple TV and coming soon to Amazon Channels and Apple TV Channels.
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2020...-launch-in-uk/

jfman 04-04-2020 06:09
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https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2020...ogrammes-ever/

Linear television doing what it does best. No bandwidth reductions necessary.

denphone 04-04-2020 08:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36030278)
https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2020...ogrammes-ever/

Linear television doing what it does best. No bandwidth reductions necessary.
l would hazard a guess the Queens address to the nation on Sunday evening will get another big Linear television audience.

OLD BOY 04-04-2020 11:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36030278)
https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2020...ogrammes-ever/

Linear television doing what it does best. No bandwidth reductions necessary.
Until you get adverse weather conditions......

We watched it live on the BBC i-Player, actually. Picture perfect.

Chad 04-04-2020 11:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36030278)
https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2020...ogrammes-ever/

Linear television doing what it does best. No bandwidth reductions necessary.
The virtual Grand National is expected to bring in a massive audience today. Bigger viewing figures than the real thing.

denphone 04-04-2020 11:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 36030316)
The virtual Grand National is expected to bring in a massive audience today. Bigger viewing figures than the real thing.
Have you had a bet Chad ;) as l would a audience of 10 million plus given all the circumstances.

Chad 04-04-2020 11:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36030318)
Have you had a bet Chad ;) as l would a audience of 10 million plus given all the circumstances.
I'm not a betting man Den but I will watch it out of curiosity. It'll be one of those oddities everyone will remember watching.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/bl...l-horse-racing

denphone 04-04-2020 11:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 36030319)
I'm not a betting man Den but I will watch it out of curiosity. It'll be one of those oddities everyone will remember watching.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/bl...l-horse-racing
Apparently they say its going to look very realistic according to the racing trade paper this morning.

jfman 04-04-2020 11:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36030313)
Until you get adverse weather conditions......

We watched it live on the BBC i-Player, actually. Picture perfect.
Never had adverse weather on cable myself, can’t speak for others.

muppetman11 04-04-2020 11:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36030324)
Never had adverse weather on cable myself, can’t speak for others.
Hardly get it on satellite , I can count on one hand the number of instances weve had in a year and they're usually during thunderstorms with heavy rain.

denphone 04-04-2020 11:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36030324)
Never had adverse weather on cable myself, can’t speak for others.
20 years we have been cable customers and apart from the rare outage over that time its been perfectly fine.

Legendkiller2k 04-04-2020 12:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36030321)
Apparently they say its going to look very realistic according to the racing trade paper this morning.
I have a horse racing sim game on pc, it looks very realistic if that's anything to go by then racing fans will be in for a treat later.

denphone 04-04-2020 12:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36030358)
I have a horse racing sim game on pc, it looks very realistic if that's anything to go by then racing fans will be in for a treat later.
Not Starters Orders is it.;)

Legendkiller2k 04-04-2020 13:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36030360)
Not Starters Orders is it.;)
Indeed it is.

Chris 04-04-2020 15:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36030313)
Until you get adverse weather conditions......

We watched it live on the BBC i-Player, actually. Picture perfect.
If bad weather jinxes your aerial or dish, then it’s misaligned. And getting that fixed is a far quicker and easier process than getting your ISP to pay openreach to trace and fix a broadband-killing line fault.

Raider999 04-04-2020 16:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36030388)
If bad weather jinxes your aerial or dish, then it’s misaligned. And getting that fixed is a far quicker and easier process than getting your ISP to pay openreach to trace and fix a broadband-killing line fault.
Torrential rain will result in signal break-up/failure wether your dish is perfectly aligned or not

Mad Max 04-04-2020 16:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36030407)
Torrential rain will result in signal break-up/failure wether your dish is perfectly aligned or not
Correct..

Chris 04-04-2020 17:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36030407)
Torrential rain will result in signal break-up/failure wether your dish is perfectly aligned or not
I know a thing or two about torrential rain living in the highlands. My experience is that it certainly can do that, but it is exceptionally rare. The rain has got to be extremely heavy. I mean tropical heavy, in a way it never does in the UK for more than a few minutes at a time.

The only time we had anything like regular issues with poor weather affecting our signal, it was fixed by a 10-minute visit from our local electrician, who also carries the gear to do dish alignments.

muppetman11 04-04-2020 17:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36030416)
I know a thing or two about torrential rain living in the highlands. My experience is that it certainly can do that, but it is exceptionally rare. The rain has got to be extremely heavy. I mean tropical heavy, in a way it never does in the UK for more than a few minutes at a time.

The only time we had anything like regular issues with poor weather affecting our signal, it was fixed by a 10-minute visit from our local electrician, who also carries the gear to do dish alignments.
Completely agree Chris that's pretty much my experience , only the real torrential downpours are the only time weve had issues and then it's been brief loss of picture.

Mad Max 04-04-2020 18:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36030419)
Completely agree Chris that's pretty much my experience , only the real torrential downpours are the only time weve had issues and then it's been brief loss of picture.

That may just become a more regular occurence!

OLD BOY 04-04-2020 18:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36030324)
Never had adverse weather on cable myself, can’t speak for others.
No-one does. I was referring to the impact of High pressure weather systems and their impact on transmitted broadcasts.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36030388)
If bad weather jinxes your aerial or dish, then it’s misaligned. And getting that fixed is a far quicker and easier process than getting your ISP to pay openreach to trace and fix a broadband-killing line fault.
My aerial is absolutely fine, but I am aware that a lot of people get poor reception in high pressure.

Chris 04-04-2020 18:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36030422)
No-one does. I was referring to the impact of High pressure weather systems and their impact on transmitted broadcasts.

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My aerial is absolutely fine, but I am aware that a lot of people get poor reception in high pressure.
Again, record high pressure last weekend - we saw around 1050 on our barometer - no noticeable effect on our satellite signal.

OLD BOY 04-04-2020 18:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36030424)
Again, record high pressure last weekend - we saw around 1050 on our barometer - no noticeable effect on our satellite signal.
To my knowledge, high pressure only affects aerial-received broadcasts from transmitters, but this may depend on how far away you live from your nearest transmitter.

jfman 04-04-2020 18:34
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If your fifteen year (twenty year?) plan to replace linear with streaming is relying on bad weather it certainly hasn't been so prevalent an issue to see Virgin Media soar ahead of Sky/Freeview in cabled areas.

heero_yuy 04-04-2020 18:35
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Generally affects lower frequencies and terrestrial transmitters. I remember in my CB days a massive "lift" and the CB'er next to me in the carpark was talking to somebody in Madison Square Garden ( New York ) and the signal was coming in at S10 on only 4 watts!

Same lift allowed us to talk to CB'ers in Shetland as if they were next door.

muppetman11 04-04-2020 19:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36030421)
That may just become a more regular occurence!
My observations come from having satellite for many many years so I'm not sure why that would change.

Mad Max 04-04-2020 20:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36030431)
My observations come from having satellite for many many years so I'm not sure why that would change.
Global warming?

johnathome 04-04-2020 23:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36030427)
Generally affects lower frequencies and terrestrial transmitters. I remember in my CB days a massive "lift" and the CB'er next to me in the carpark was talking to somebody in Madison Square Garden ( New York ) and the signal was coming in at S10 on only 4 watts!

Same lift allowed us to talk to CB'ers in Shetland as if they were next door.
Wouldn't that be 'skip' where the signal bounces off the ionosphere? Always wondered what caused it, I talked to a guy in Fraserburgh from Portsmouth on a 2w rig, he STILL hasn't sent me the QSL card! (DJ from 86 Gallowhill Road i'm talking to you!)

buckeye 05-04-2020 14:38
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Would anyone with Now TV accounts please let me know if they can access the passes and vouchers section of their account?
I'm in the same boat as the people in this Now TV forum thread https://community.nowtv.com/t5/Accou.../523833#M12196

As they have shut down their customer services atm there seems no way to rectify this

jfman 05-04-2020 14:43
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 36030510)
Would anyone with Now TV accounts please let me know if they can access the passes and vouchers section of their account?
I'm in the same boat as the people in this Now TV forum thread https://community.nowtv.com/t5/Accou.../523833#M12196

As they have shut down their customer services atm there seems no way to rectify this
No issue with me using Safari on a MacBook.

denphone 05-04-2020 15:41
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 36030316)
The virtual Grand National is expected to bring in a massive audience today. Bigger viewing figures than the real thing.
Around 5 million viewers.

But the most important thing is NHS Charities Together is to receive more than £2.6 million in the form of a donation from bookmakers who took bets on the 2020 Virtual Grand National on Saturday.

Mad Max 05-04-2020 15:54
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 36030510)
Would anyone with Now TV accounts please let me know if they can access the passes and vouchers section of their account?
I'm in the same boat as the people in this Now TV forum thread https://community.nowtv.com/t5/Accou.../523833#M12196

As they have shut down their customer services atm there seems no way to rectify this

Just tried it and got in with no problems, I'm on a laptop and using Firefox browser.

buckeye 05-04-2020 17:51
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
@jfman and @Mad Max
Thanks, I think I shall have to try installing Safari and Firefox before they start charging me.

OLD BOY 06-04-2020 09:04
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36030426)
If your fifteen year (twenty year?) plan to replace linear with streaming is relying on bad weather it certainly hasn't been so prevalent an issue to see Virgin Media soar ahead of Sky/Freeview in cabled areas.
Well, it's not. My comment was simply a factual one. Satellite and terrestrial broadcast transmissions are affected by weather (high pressure does not bring bad weather by the way) whereas cable and IPTV broadcasts are not.

By my calculation, jfman, 2035 is 15 years away. A lot will happen between now and then. The shift away from terrestrial TV broadcasts will result from the growing recognition by the population that so-called 'live' scheduled TV is not the best way to access TV programmes for reasons already explained; the increasing problem of bringing fresh new programming to the channels due to the growing domination of the streamers, impacting on advertising revenues; the continuing pressure by the government to replace the licence fee with a subscription model (which is not compatible with terrestrial broadcasting); and the pressure there will be to give up more of the spectrum to 5G, etc.

I appreciate that you have a different view, jfman, which is par for the course, but hopefully we will both live long enough to find out who was right.:walk:

General Maximus 06-04-2020 09:21
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
I haven't kept up with the conversation and only seen this last post but for what it's worth I agree with you. The weather doesn't have a frequent effect on my tv and has never knocked out VM tv however once a year when we have a ridiculously hot day it will knock my Sky tv out and similarly during a thunderstorm.

I think on demand/streaming is the way to go for the future and also getting rid of the tv license and making the BBC stand on its own two feet. The sooner both of those happen the better.

Legendkiller2k 06-04-2020 11:14
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36030588)
I haven't kept up with the conversation and only seen this last post but for what it's worth I agree with you. The weather doesn't have a frequent effect on my tv and has never knocked out VM tv however once a year when we have a ridiculously hot day it will knock my Sky tv out and similarly during a thunderstorm.

I think on demand/streaming is the way to go for the future and also getting rid of the tv license and making the BBC stand on its own two feet. The sooner both of those happen the better.
Ofcourse streaming is the future but we will always have folk who can't accept the future,
I've been following this discussion of OB with great interest and all the main ones involved all have very valid points.

oliver1948uk 06-04-2020 13:36
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
According to this article, Disney+ on Sky Q has limitations. No HDR, no 4K and, despite the hype, Disney+ content is NOT integrated into Sky Q search.

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...ox-Not-Working

jfman 06-04-2020 14:04
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36030595)
Ofcourse streaming is the future but we will always have folk who can't accept the future,
I've been following this discussion of OB with great interest and all the main ones involved all have very valid points.
I'm unsure who you are accusing of not accepting the future. Most of us in this thread welcome all kinds of television, it's only a small minority who don't value the diversity that streaming, linear, on demand (essentially streaming) and a PVR offer.

ozsat 06-04-2020 14:19
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SkyQ users discovered that on day 1 - it was on SkyQ from the D+ launch day in March.

HDR is not available on SkyQ - and it seems 4K is only available for Disney+ devices if HDR is also supported.

I unserstand the plan is to intergrate into the SkyQ search only if you subscribe via Sky - which is not yet an option.

Quote:
Originally Posted by oliver1948uk (Post 36030636)
According to this article, Disney+ on Sky Q has limitations. No HDR, no 4K and, despite the hype, Disney+ content is NOT integrated into Sky Q search.

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...ox-Not-Working

Legendkiller2k 06-04-2020 14:44
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36030644)
I'm unsure who you are accusing of not accepting the future. Most of us in this thread welcome all kinds of television, it's only a small minority who don't value the diversity that streaming, linear, on demand (essentially streaming) and a PVR offer.
Not directed at anyone on this forum it was just a general comment.

1andrew1 06-04-2020 20:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36030653)
Not directed at anyone on this forum it was just a general comment.
Well, if you know people who can't accept the future, you can always direct them here! :D https://www.videodyssey.com/

Mad Max 06-04-2020 20:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36030682)
Well, if you know people who can't accept the future, you can always direct them here! :D https://www.videodyssey.com/

:D:D

Legendkiller2k 06-04-2020 23:12
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36030682)
Well, if you know people who can't accept the future, you can always direct them here! :D https://www.videodyssey.com/
Haha love it, but question is how did you know about it? :p:

vincerooney 06-04-2020 23:57
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
With the isolation continuing i've got a 1.60 a month now tv package. they brag about boxsets but the menu is annoying to scroll through like amazon prime...any suggestions on what to watch in terms of box sets?

denphone 07-04-2020 05:20
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36030696)
With the isolation continuing i've got a 1.60 a month now tv package. they brag about boxsets but the menu is annoying to scroll through like amazon prime...any suggestions on what to watch in terms of box sets?
That depends on what you really like Vince as this list might be helpful for you.

https://www.finder.com/uk/now-tv-shows

On Amazon Prime l thought the menu make up could not get any worse but its even worse now then it was before to scroll through personally for me.

jfman 07-04-2020 06:31
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
If Chernobyl is on there it’s a must watch. Tough to watch at times, harrowing, but excellently done.

Legendkiller2k 07-04-2020 11:40
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The ROKU channel has launched in UK on ROKU, NOWTV and SKYQ.
The ROKU channel has loads of free movies and tv shows, the USA version does give the option to subscribe to channels too wether or not that will launch in uk too in the future i do not know.
https://www.whathifi.com/news/the-ro...and-roku-users

johnathome 07-04-2020 15:23
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
I don't own any of those devices, no Android app available or any way to sideload?

Phunkenstein 07-04-2020 16:02
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 36030776)
I don't own any of those devices, no Android app available or any way to sideload?
Unlikely. In the U.K. it only looks like Roku supported TV devices and the Sky platforms support it and to my knowledge they don’t (understandably) have a native Apple TV or Fire TV app, even in the US and it’s likely Sky will have bagged it as an exclusive due to theirs and Roku’s close ties.

pip08456 07-04-2020 16:03
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 36030776)
I don't own any of those devices, no Android app available or any way to sideload?
There is an android app.

Phunkenstein 07-04-2020 16:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36030781)
There is an android app.
Unless I’m mistaken I believe like the IOS App, it’s primarily a remote control app and requires a Roku running on the same wireless network.

johnathome 07-04-2020 16:35
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Yeah, you need to have a Roku for it to work. Googling says I can use a bookmark for the browser but it says not available in your area.

muppetman11 07-04-2020 17:16
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36030700)
If Chernobyl is on there it’s a must watch. Tough to watch at times, harrowing, but excellently done.
Yes agree Chernobyl was excellent , Entourage would be another recommendation for Vince if comedy is their thing.

SonicMaster 08-04-2020 11:48
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A new post from one of the Virgin Media Forum Team on the lack of Disney+ availability:

I apologise for the issue you are having, at present I can confirm that we aren't able to provide Disney+ as an application on our Virgin V6 boxes, this is as Sky have bought exclusive rights to it at present.

https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...v/td-p/4196306

denphone 08-04-2020 11:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36030885)
A new post from one of the Virgin Media Forum Team on the lack of Disney+ availability:

I apologise for the issue you are having, at present I can confirm that we aren't able to provide Disney+ as an application on our Virgin V6 boxes, this is as Sky have bought exclusive rights to it at present.

https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...v/td-p/4196306
Well that is short and sweet and ends any hope some had.

1andrew1 08-04-2020 12:15
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36030885)
A new post from one of the Virgin Media Forum Team on the lack of Disney+ availability:

I apologise for the issue you are having, at present I can confirm that we aren't able to provide Disney+ as an application on our Virgin V6 boxes, this is as Sky have bought exclusive rights to it at present.

https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...v/td-p/4196306
Yeah. Someone on the forum whinges with VM's response but I can see that Sky would insist on an exclusive deal for say a year in return for letting Disney + have rights to Fox content Sky had exclusive rights to. But I can see if you're not too great with technology, it's easier to have access via one remote control and interface.

I think this situation has arisen in other countries eg France it's just on Canal .

Legendkiller2k 08-04-2020 14:04
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36030885)
A new post from one of the Virgin Media Forum Team on the lack of Disney+ availability:

I apologise for the issue you are having, at present I can confirm that we aren't able to provide Disney+ as an application on our Virgin V6 boxes, this is as Sky have bought exclusive rights to it at present.

https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...v/td-p/4196306
Exactly what i told people on here but what do i know eh?
Afterall the company i work for only deals with these contracts etc.

OLD BOY 08-04-2020 14:17
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36030885)
A new post from one of the Virgin Media Forum Team on the lack of Disney+ availability:

I apologise for the issue you are having, at present I can confirm that we aren't able to provide Disney+ as an application on our Virgin V6 boxes, this is as Sky have bought exclusive rights to it at present.

https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...v/td-p/4196306
That seems to fly in the face of other reports that Sky was unable to achieve the exclusivity it wanted. Very strange.

Virgin will need to move much quicker in acquiring rights in future if it is to achieve its goal of being a super-aggregator of content if this is correct. I wonder if that member of the VM Forum team has got that right? After all, Disney + appears on other non-Sky platforms (Amazon for one).

I'm not convinced at this point.

Phunkenstein 08-04-2020 15:49
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36030905)
That seems to fly in the face of other reports that Sky was unable to achieve the exclusivity it wanted. Very strange.

Virgin will need to move much quicker in acquiring rights in future if it is to achieve its goal of being a super-aggregator of content if this is correct. I wonder if that member of the VM Forum team has got that right? After all, Disney + appears on other non-Sky platforms (Amazon for one).

I'm not convinced at this point.
Sky's deal is not exclusive because O2 have a deal with Disney as the mobile partner.

And it's not exactly difficult to ascertain that Sky probably have a deal that gives them a period of timed exclusivity as the pay tv partner at launch not unlike pay tv deals struck by Disney across Europe with the likes of Movistar, Deutsche Telekom, Timvision and Canal Plus... in all of these regions Disney have done a variety of deals relevant to those markets whether timed or multi-year. And yet the service is still available D2C in those markets so no different to here.

I think it's reasonable to suggest we will see D+ on Virgin, BT and Talktalk in due course - just a question of when that window opens for other pay tv partners to join the fray.

Legendkiller2k 08-04-2020 17:01
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36030905)
That seems to fly in the face of other reports that Sky was unable to achieve the exclusivity it wanted. Very strange.

Virgin will need to move much quicker in acquiring rights in future if it is to achieve its goal of being a super-aggregator of content if this is correct. I wonder if that member of the VM Forum team has got that right? After all, Disney + appears on other non-Sky platforms (Amazon for one).

I'm not convinced at this point.
VM will not move faster VM are what's called a leech they rely heavily on other providers channels, VMs portfolio has certainly improved under Liberty Global and they now have their own portfolio of channels, well LG do.
Being a leech isn't a bad thing but it can backfire spectacularly especially as VM have in the past picked fights with SKY,BT,UKTV etc.[COLOR="Silver"]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36030932)
Sky's deal is not exclusive because O2 have a deal with Disney as the mobile partner.

And it's not exactly difficult to ascertain that Sky probably have a deal that gives them a period of timed exclusivity as the pay tv partner at launch not unlike pay tv deals struck by Disney across Europe with the likes of Movistar, Deutsche Telekom, Timvision and Canal Plus... in all of these regions Disney have done a variety of deals relevant to those markets whether timed or multi-year. And yet the service is still available D2C in those markets so no different to here.

I think it's reasonable to suggest we will see D+ on Virgin, BT and Talktalk in due course - just a question of when that window opens for other pay tv partners to join the fray.
SKY is exclusive paytv platform of D+, O2 do not have a tv platform as of yet so you can not compare the two.

Phunkenstein 08-04-2020 17:10
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36030938)
VM will not move faster VM are what's called a leech they rely heavily on other providers channels, VMs portfolio has certainly improved under Liberty Global and they now have their own portfolio of channels, well LG do.
Being a leech isn't a bad thing but it can backfire spectacularly especially as VM have in the past picked fights with SKY,BT,UKTV etc.[COLOR="Silver"]

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SKY is exclusive paytv platform of D+, O2 do not have a tv platform as of yet so you can not compare the two.
To be fair I did make the distinction that O2 were the mobile partner - so Sky are not the only 3rd party retailing the service for Disney but yes by all evidence Sky are the pay tv partner and O2 the exclusive mobile partner. Though either way still not sure it will convince OB! 😂

OLD BOY 08-04-2020 18:10
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36030943)
To be fair I did make the distinction that O2 were the mobile partner - so Sky are not the only 3rd party retailing the service for Disney but yes by all evidence Sky are the pay tv partner and O2 the exclusive mobile partner. Though either way still not sure it will convince OB! 😂
Well, I don't know - all I can say is that I read that Sky tried to get an exclusive deal but failed. I'm not sure what to believe, to be honest.

1andrew1 08-04-2020 18:45
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36030951)
Well, I don't know - all I can say is that I read that Sky tried to get an exclusive deal but failed. I'm not sure what to believe, to be honest.
There's always speculation about these things prior to launch, and there was talk of exclusive Sky integration whilst other pay TV platforms would just host the app. These events have not happened.

What to believe? I would start with the evidence of my own eyes. They show that Disney+ has two exclusive arrangements in place in the UK: O2 for mobile and Sky for pay TV.


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