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Why is it taking Virgin so long to sort out a deal for FTA Freesports?

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Why are you posting the same question in several threads

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More chance of a response. Posted before with no direct acknowledgement.

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Amazon Fire TV is going 4K

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06XTWLS...XKZHTVGM0CMXMS

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Good news for boxing fans with bulging wallets (or purses).

http://www.seenit.co.uk/sky-sports-b...-haye-rematch/

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They know where they can shove that OB.

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BT's AMC is going free to air on Sky for one week from Saturday 28th October to Sunday 5th November

http://www.seenit.co.uk/bts-amc-chan...a-week-on-sky/

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It would be good to see this channel on Virgin. I wonder if they will be able to negotiate this when the existing BT wholesale deal is renewed. We are paying for BT Sports through our subscriptions after all.

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Not a chance of arriving IMO.

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I have access to this on my Sky box and can honestly say I've never watched it once.

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Is that because you haven't liked the content or because you never look at what's on the channel?

I think it is quite good. With programmes like Fear The Walking Dead (not everyone's cup of tea), The Son and Mad Men for example, plus some pretty good films, it is worth having, IMHO.

In fact, it is rather better than Sky One, not that this is a difficult standard to pass at the moment!

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That is a bold statement as personally l disagree with your sentiments OB..

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Mad Men is excellent.

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And beyond that MM?.

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I think you should compare the schedules on a day to day basis, Den.

Tomorrow on Sky 1, for example, you have 4 doses of The Simpsons; Modern Family; Sing followed by another two doses of The Simpsons; The Russell Howard Hour.

On AMC during those same times, you have Mad Men; Fear The Walking Dead; Halt and Catch Fire; The Son.

I suppose if cartoons, comedies and competitions are what rocks your boat, you would have a different opinion from me, but then you know I tend to watch non soapy dramas!

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Personal preference but certainly not according to my families viewing. Mad Men I've already seen on Sky Atlantic and the others I have no interest in.

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I was just mentioning Mad Men as I saw that OB had said he liked it, I watched it via Netflix.

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I caught up with this series on Now TV if my memory serves me correctly. However, many have not yet seen this drama beyond the first series screened on BBC2 because Sky Atlantic took it over soon after that.

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Tbh i never watched it either when i had BT TV.

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(I Seem to have been drawn into an off-topic thing)
This should maybe be in another thread.

IMO.
Mad Men is excellent if you've not seen it and it is a good re-watch.

Fear The Walking Dead is okay. There's a potential crossover coming soon so only Sky customers with BT Sports will be able to make sense of this.

Halt and Catch fire is a personal favourite, but isn't it like 3 years behind Amazon who have first run rights in UK?

The Son...I wasted almost 2 hours of my life on the pilot and then deleted the entire series based on that. It seemed dreadful.

AMC is no-loss to anyone's life. It's no Sky Atlantic in almost anyone's book!

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Sky Sports presenter David Tanner opens up about shock departure after 18 years

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...anner-11345820

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Doesn't look good for beIN
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2017...or-corruption/

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MB has posted a rumour that BT Sport will no longer be included in Full House/XL upon expiration of the carriage contract, but that Boxnation & AMC will be included in the BT Sport pack.

If this were to happen, what would people think?

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People shouldn't listen to silly rumours there's not a chance they both won't strike a deal.

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You better explain that to some of our wisest then.:)

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Have to agree both parties need a deal for different reasons.

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I hope you are right, and that VM get AMC included as part of a wholesale deal!

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You sure?

@MartinHoscik

@VirginMediaCorp PR failed to answer my email but rumours abound that they’re going to stop giving BT Sport away for free in their XL pack.

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That means nothing on its own, Gavin. Since when has VM given advance notice of channels before a deal has been signed? Do you not remember all the chatter that went on before the original BT wholesale deal was announced? We didn't get confirmation until right up to the day it was broadcast!

Expect a lot of speculation until the deal is announced, and believe none of it in the meantime!

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Well you believed Amazon were going to bid and win the Premier league rights so what's different.;)

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I gave links to sources, Den, that's all. Gavin's links are to tweets that put forward questions that Virgin are not in a position to answer, and then a story is conjured up as to why they won't answer the question.

There is a world of difference between the two, Den, and I am positive that you can see that.

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This might be in the wrong thread but here goes, I've been watching the West Ham V Brighton game on Sky Sports tonight, and for the life of me I cannot understand why Jamie Carragher is a co commentator on this, and in fact, any game, no disrespect to anyone from Liverpool, or anyone with a regional accent, but this guys voice is so guttural it's almost brain damaging, I had to turn the sound down it was so bad.......

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For once MM l agree with you.:eeek::Yikes:

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Rather have Carragher than the irritating woman (Taylor?) who was on a NZ mitre cup rugby game a week or so ago. The main commentators kept referring to her every time a substitute was made, at which point she felt it necessary to give the new player's life history in a squeaky voice at about 300 words per minute - totally over the top, presumably because of political correctness:(

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I hear your pain mate, this will be controversial, but I wouldn't have women involved in men's sport...................:D

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Ooh, Max - steady, mate!

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Politically correct eye candy.No more,no less.
Apart from Claire balding obviously.😱

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That may have been the case, however I cannot recall actually seeing her on the screen - just hearing her (bit like a squeaky voice played at 3x speed)

It is possible she made a visual appearance before play started or at half-time but as I always FF to the kick-off I wouldn't know.

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I totally agree with you. These things are kept tightly-guarded secrets known only to one or two people.
My own view is that BT is in a spot of bother now. If you read the many press reports it's looking to sell some overseas IT consulting subsidiaries after ten years of fraud was discovered in its Italian subsidiary! BT needs to take fewer risks now and it needs VM's cheque to pay for the Premier League rights. With VM expanding its network, it's arguably in a stronger position than at the last time the two of them sat around the negotiating table.

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Agreed. There was also an article a month or so back that said that Amazon had been in talks with VM and VM's management were keen on the deal but the parent company (Liberty Global International) over-ruled them as they felt Amazon was a long-term strategic threat. And before that, I think someone reported Amazon testing on VM too.
Certainly, there was more evidence for Amazon arriving than BT Sport leaving!

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You have been listening to that wise old sage too much again Andrew.

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If''s , but's and maybe's Andrew.

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Hard not to when you read stuff like this
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/m...ndal-year.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...-top-investor/

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Were the media not saying the same about Sky not that long ago as you must remember when one reads a story there is generally a lot of hyperbole attached to them..

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BT Sport raises prices for Sky and TalkTalk customers.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/bt-sport-rai...alk-customers/

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The fact that BT might be holding out for more money from VM as well might put us in a good position to have the AMC channel added as part of the wholesale arrangements.

Fingers crossed, anyway, I'd like to have that channel. I'd trade that for Sky One any day.

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Won't be paying that when my contracts up.

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Just in time for the Ashes.

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If you read one of the other connected articles, you will see sky raised the cost of sky sports (10 channels) to BT tv subscribers.

This is obviously BT getting there own back on sky subscribers.

Does it affect VM subscribers - possibly, but cannot go from nothing to £30pm and not expect a raft of cancellations.

BT, Sky and Virgin seem to have missed the fact that people's disposable income has been reducing over the past few years.

Whilst, sky have lost a number of sports rights (mostly to BT) they have kept increasing the cost of what is left above the cost of inflation.

This blueprint is not sustainable - eventually customers will say enough is enough and cancel!

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I think BT viewers wouldn't be too unhappy with the price if thats what they got (bit in bold). But rather hilariously they get just 1 and half channels of Sky Sports (Main Event and Extra a channel just for BT viewers that shows the Premier League games that aren't on Main Event due to other events being shown). I assume this is just enough to keep Ofcom happy. :rolleyes:

Ps I don't really have a problem with Sky doing this as I suspect BT would do something similar if they were in Skys position. Remember BT challenged Skys position and then refused to share their channels.

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Not really a wise move. They are/were potential BT Sport customers. It's now more expensive than Sports and Cinema in HD for a Sky Customer in an minimum term contract.

Sky Sports price hasn't gone up in about 18 months for Sky customers. Customers willing to go into minimum term contracts have seen their prices reduced in recent months.

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Just remember that BT are playing Sky's own game, in a language Sky understand.

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Which means higher prices OB when some on this forum actually had the Great foresight to predict lower prices.;)

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I've just re-subscribed to Sky Sports, so that I can video some of the overnight NFL games, and I appreciate that I didn't pay the extra £7 for HD, but for £31 a month I expect a good SD picture, but it's shockingly awful!

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The current XL/Full House BT deal on VM runs out next summer so won't be any change to that for now I would imagine.
However after it runs out who knows, rumours of it being dropped from XL pack have been popping up a lot recently.

Not sure how this works for those on VM not on XL who just sub to BT separately.

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It's a duopoly at present, Den, not proper competition.

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But did you not say competition was coming and thus this would signal big changes and cheaper prices for the customer?.

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I disagree Sky are charging me less than I've paid for a long while for Sky Sports and the promotion I'm on was open to all Sky subs.

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If something is coming, Den, it means it's not here yet. :D

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2050 does that suit you.:D

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Many will disagree with you MM as voiced on this forum on a regular basis.

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Those people are entitled to change if they can get it cheaper elsewhere or at very least ring their current provider and see what they can do.

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Indeed they are, however it would be a lot fairer if everyone paid the same price - you should not have to haggle to get a cheaper deal.

When I told Sky I was cancelling and moving to Virgin they said they would try and match the Virgin price to keep me - however they couldn't.

Sky sports cost has increased in the last 18 months despite what a post says and over the years their rights have diluted.

I stick by my earlier post - sky have never ever lowered the standard price of sky sports to reflect the loss of any rights.

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My Sky Sports charges have decreased , I agreed to an 18 month contract and to keep Sky Sports for that term and now pay £20 a month instead of the £27.50 normal rate. This offer was open to anyone I'm not sure if it still is but they always have offers on.

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It is isn't it?

I can get an illegal stream in better quality.

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I wouldn't tell the world about that, John, in view of concerns expressed on this forum over prosecutions.

Now it has been established by the courts that streaming pirated content is unlawful, I can see Sky going after culprits big time. They are losing a lot of money through pirating.

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BT seem to be indicating that they will not be paying silly money to retain their existing Premiership rights.

This could be the way in for the big players if they want to dip their toes in the water first.

It will be interesting to see who makes the best play for this, but my bets are on Amazon.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/bt-bosses-vo...ue-tv-auction/

BT bosses vow to remain “disciplined” in next Premier League TV rights auction

BT bosses have insisted they won’t get into an open-ended bidding war for the next set of Premier League broadcast rights.

The broadcaster is the contest’s junior rights holder, showing 42 games per season compared to Sky’s 126 matches, and augments its football coverage with exclusive coverage of the Champions and Europa Leagues.

It also holds exclusive UK rights to the Aviva Premiership Rugby, Australian cricket, UFC and, most recently, boxing coverage through its tie-up with Frank Warren’s Boxnation.

BT Sport has been credited with revitalising the firm’s pay-TV platform which has doubled its customer base since 2012, as well as boosting take-up of its fibre broadband packages and cutting customer losses.

The firm’s latest market update confirms that viewing figures across the suite of BT Sport channels is up 8% compared to last year, with Premier League audiences up 2% and those for the Champions League growing by 16% – a boost BT credits to six British teams qualifying for the group stage for the first time since the 2007/08 season.

Asked on Thursday about the role of the Premier League in achieving growth and retention targets, BT CEO Gavin Patterson said the rights “are important” and BT would “undoubtably play a role in the auction,” but insisted the firm would “remain very disciplined” when bidding.

This message was reiterated by Marc Allera, head of BT’s consumer division, who said content was a key way of “to differentiate your offering” from other communications providers but added his team were “clear what price we’re prepared to pay for these rights and we will not pay more.”

Alluding to reports that new bidders, such as Amazon or Netflix, could enter the fray at the next rights auction, Patterson said the firm was “prepared for a scenario…where someone takes us on”.

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Perhaps if you go to the end of your book now you will get the answer to what you already know OB.;)

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What a completely pointless article , what executive is going to come out and say we are prepared to pay whatever.

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I think OB is getting free deliveries from Amazon.......;)

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And good commission as well.;)

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None.

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We fell Sky will do an ITV Digital within the next 10 to 20 years if they keep on over paying for the rights to Premier League.

No wonder your team (England) has not win anything since 1966 with all the over pay overseas players.

I would love to see the "Team England" in the Premier League to see where in the top 20 they end up.

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It's not pointless. It is indicating there is a limit to what they are prepared to pay to retain these rights.

To my mind, they would have been well advised to keep their position on this close to their chests. This is only going to encorage Amazon, Disney, Discovery and the like to test the waters. However, my view is that we could do far worse than seeing global streaming companies taking over, and in the long run, this will be the best arrangement for the punters.

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It's pretty damn obvious every company has a limit to what it's prepared to pay.

American companies doing British Sport can't wait !!!!!

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Not a chance!!!! but don't tell OB that..

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In the context of the announcement, the indication was that they were not going to die in a ditch to get what they wanted. It was designed I think to keep expectations down because there is a real possibility they may lose these rights either this or next time around.

As for Americans doing sport - I am sure they will use British commentators!

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You literally believe everything you read don't you :D

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5% truth and 95% codswallop you could say and that is being generous.:D

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According to a poster on dspy Bein sports intend to bid for uk premier league rights when the next round of bidding starts.

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The same poster who's been saying this the last few auctions , not a chance.

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Yeah i just saw some of his old posts i didn't realise at time of posting here that poster is the same one who said vodafone had cl and efl rights lol.

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I'm just linking to an article with a quote from BT. I see no particular reason for disbelieving it.

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I thought you said you weren't making constant dismissals in the 'coming soon' thread, Den?

Well, what do you know, there's another one. Are you and muppetman working in the same room? :D

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So you obviously believe things more then MM and myself do?.

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Its those all seeing crystal balls you know.:D

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I certainly believe the links I post more than I believe the negative reactions you provide to these posts, Den!

I most certainly don't believe everything I read, Den, as my wife will confirm! Mind you, she is a Daily Mail reader!

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Same old same old

If you read the communication (link posted somewhere back in this thread) you will learn that Amazon are not prepared to enter the bidding for premier league rights at anything like the current costs.

You must have shares in Amazon to keep posting this rubbish

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So you prefer to believe one particular communication that you have not identified against all the items of news that are claiming the opposite.

It seems strange to me that because an item doesn't fit with your mindset, you just have to discredit it.

I guess we will see who is right soon enough.

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He is not discrediting it as like you . myself . MM and others he is giving his personal opinion..

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He called it rubbish. If that's not discrediting it, I don't know what is!

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And you have not used those words before OB?.

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No point in identifying it when you obviously ignored it first time round.

It was an article quoting a senior Amazon executive.

Not seen anything in print to support your Amazon obsession - with the exception of a throwaway remark from the Premier League chief speculating that Amazon may be bidding (always good to keep the current rights holders on their toes, and inflate the price)

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Here is something that might cheer OB up.:)

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ports-coverage

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Nice to see BBC has remembered that they also serve sports fans as opposed to reality drivel.

Shame they cannot find any money for mainstream sports, but very good news for the profile of minority sports that they will be showing and supporters of those sports.

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Live sport streamed by the BBC! Well I never.

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I didn't ignore it - I don't remember seeing it, so if this actually exists, I must have missed it.

If you Google this, there are pages and pages of sites claiming that Amazon is entering the fray and you are choosing to ignore all of that.

I do think Amazon could choose to stay out of the bidding process this year and then go for the jugular next time around. The reason I say this is that NBC have the rights to the Premiership games in the US until 2022, so it would make sense to wait until then.

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Change of track OB

Now you are saying next rights issue, not the upcoming one.

I suppose eventually you may get your wish and they may enter the fray.


An interesting thought, provided by a friend yesterday, re competition.

Competition is only competition if all the games are available for any broadcaster to show.

Price would determine most customers choice and would be driven downwards to achieve a sustainable market share.

Have to say this would definitely get my vote!

Unfortunately, it is never going to happen as Premier League woul get less income from TV.

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Just a clarification, I have been saying either this time or next time throughout, just check my earlier posts for verification.

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ITV threatens to pull plug on Virgin Media over £80m bill.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...edia-80m-bill/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/484497...nation-street/

Go on ITV take it off and the fools will be you at the end of the day as you inflate your own importance to TV viewers..

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Does anyone know when the EPL games started to be shown live on the 5:30pm slot on a Saturday?

Thx

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BT prices on the up in January

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11..._prices_again/

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Expect others to follow suit.

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Just received an email from VM with an offer of half price Sky Sports for 12 months at £15.88

Seems a bit more like it

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Nice, wish I could re contract!

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Not sure why this is in the sports thread as it doesn't mention increasing BT sports fees, only broadband charges