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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36111441)

I had a chat about the latest events with my CPS friend, and they pointed this out to me…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1643364807

https://twitter.com/crimelinelaw/sta...541153792?s=12

However, they did deem it "unusual" that this would happen if it was only about Fixed Penalty Notices - normally, this might occur if it was about a potential interview strategy for something more than a FPN; if someone gave an statement to the Gray Inquiry that was not matched by another’s statement, the police might not want to let the first person know this until after it’s been followed up.

It is only about FPN's

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The MPS has today received material from the Cabinet Office to support its investigation

News - 28 January 2022 18:55
The MPS has today received material from the Cabinet Office to support its investigation

The Cabinet Office has been conducting an inquiry into allegations of breaches of Covid regulations and guidance in Downing Street and Whitehall. As a result of the information provided by the Cabinet Office team, and assessments by Met officers, the Commissioner announced an investigation on Tuesday 25 January.

The MPS has today, Friday 28 January, received the material it requested from the Cabinet Office to support its investigation into potential breaches of Covid-19 regulations at a number of events in Downing Street and Whitehall. The material was accepted by detectives from the Special Enquiry Team which is leading the investigation.

Commander Catherine Roper, who leads the Met’s Central Specialist Crime Command, said: “My officers will now examine this material in detail to establish whether individuals attending the events in question may have breached the regulations. They will do so without fear or favour following our normal processes.

“In order to protect the integrity of the police investigation, as is appropriate in any case, and to be as fair as possible to those who are subject to it, the Met has asked for minimal reference to be made in the Cabinet Office report to the relevant events. This will only be necessary until these matters are concluded, and is to give detectives the most reliable picture of what happened at these events. We intend to complete our investigations promptly, fairly and proportionately.

“We have not delayed this report and the timing of its release is a matter for the Cabinet Office inquiry team.

“The offences under investigation, where proven, would normally result in the issuing of a fixed penalty notice; accordingly our investigative actions will be proportionate to the nature of these offences.

“Individuals who are identified as having potentially breached these regulations will normally be contacted in writing, and invited to explain their actions including whether they feel they had a reasonable excuse.

“Following this process, and where there is sufficient evidence that individuals have breached the regulations without reasonable excuse, officers will decide if enforcement action is appropriate. If the decision is to take enforcement action then a report will be sent to the ACRO Criminal Records Office which will issue the fixed penalty notice. Recipients can pay the fixed penalty and the matter will be considered closed."

https://news.met.police.uk/news/the-...igation-441503

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

If FPNs are issued, does that mean all the guidelines weren’t observed and the COVID rules were, in fact, broken?

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36111536)

If FPNs are issued, does that mean all the guidelines weren’t observed and the COVID rules were, in fact, broken?

If FPNs are not issued, some serious questions about policing need to be asked.

Compare with https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-55560814

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36111423)

Oh gee wizz, they’re currently winning by 1 vote. I got to lie down. :rolleyes:

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Whats happened to the poll on this thread? Has it been withdrawn as Labour were winning? :D:D

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36111562)

Whats happened to the poll on this thread? Has it been withdrawn as Labour were winning? :D:D

Maybe the Met asked them to take it down

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36111507)

It is only about FPN's

https://news.met.police.uk/news/the-...igation-441503

If is only about a FPN, If the Prime Minister had been caught speeding, would we expect him to resign?

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36111562)

Whats happened to the poll on this thread? Has it been withdrawn as Labour were winning? :D:D

None of your business. Last time I looked, Labour was winning by 1 or two votes. Very much in the margin of error for polling. What the poll showed, CF’ers voting showed Conservatives and Labour on equal footing.

Hardly a ringing endorsement for Labour by CF’ers, neither exciting results for them given all the problems going on with the Tories right now.

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36111569)

If is only about a FPN, If the Prime Minister had been caught speeding, would we expect him to resign?

No, but if he had lied to the House about it, that’s a different matter…

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36111571)

I just don't think you're meeting the standards of the British Polling Council i.e. binning the poll when you don't like the way it's going ! ;)

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36111574)

I just don't think you're meeting the standards of the British Polling Council i.e. binning the poll when you don't like the way it's going ! ;)

I liked the way it was going. i.e Labour had literally no run-away lead, despite everything going on with Boris, CF’s verdict is clear, that’s a disaster for Starmer.

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36111577)

I liked the way it was going. i.e Labour had literally no run-away lead, despite everything going on with Boris, CF’s verdict is clear, that’s a disaster for Starmer.

Yeah, I'm sure you're right that Sir Keir is gutted that he's only slightly winning in a poll of 20 ageing right leaning cable boffins. A representative sample of the Country. He might as well quit now ! :p:

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36111573)

No, but if he had lied to the House about it, that’s a different matter…

But that’s the whole thing, as I alluded to earlier.

Can you prove he lied deliberately or was just mistaken?

And as my previous post lays out, there’s no parliamentary procedure to kick him out even if he did lie, let alone if he was found to be mistaken.

The problem now is, with keeping the story bubbling along this long, that it is losing its impact. If it isn’t resolved in a few days we’re all just going to lose interest in it.

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36111579)

I think he should.

Westminster voting intention:

LAB: 39% (-2)
CON: 34% (+3)
LDEM: 9% (-)
GRN: 5% (-1)

via @OpiniumResearch

Dear dear, Labour losing ground despite the Media scrum of partygate.

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties

You missed this one Mick:-

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Britain Predicts -- model update:

LAB: 318 MPs (+116)
CON: 232 (-133)
SNP: 55 (+7)
LDEM: 21 (+10)

Detail:
https://newstatesman.com/politics/po...on-of-swingers

Best to look at all polls/predictions, not just the ones you like? Or quash the ones you created because you don't like the outcome?
Tbh even the ones you like the Tories are losing....

Boris clinging on is the greatest gift the opposition could ever have.